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IKEA Announces Furniture With Integrated TV, Speakers, and Blu-ray

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the plug-in-the-chair dept.

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MrSeb writes "If you long for those balmy days when TVs looked like pieces of furniture, good news: This fall, IKEA will release Uppleva, a range of home entertainment systems that integrate a flat-screen full HD TV, 2.1 sound, and a Blu-ray player. Uppleva will come in three different designs, with a range of screen sizes starting at 24 inches. If the built-in Blu-ray player isn't enough, there are two USB and four HDMI ports down the side of the screen, and an empty 'bay' that can hold a games console, TiVo, or another set-top box of your choice. In true IKEA fashion, the whole caboodle will come in a range of colors (white, light wood, dark wood, black, and so on). Prices start at 6,500 Swedish Kroner (around $950) — presumably for the 24-inch version — which is a fairly good deal. Uppleva will only be available in a few European markets to start with, but the UK and North America should see it in early 2013."

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163 comments

I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709141)

I thought we were done with this nonsense. If I want a fridge, I'll buy a fridge. If I want a TV set, I'll buy a TV set.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (4, Insightful)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709263)

And? Not the whole world revolves around your navel, there's plenty of people who would be absolutely delightled to get one of these. Without even properly thinking about it I could name a handful of households where I fully expect to see something similar soo. You see, the thing is that for many people the aesthetics is more important than getting the most technically sound solution, "good enough" is plenty when it's made pretty.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709305)

And? Not the whole world revolves around your navel, there's plenty of people who would be absolutely delightled to get one of these. Without even properly thinking about it I could name a handful of households where I fully expect to see something similar soo. You see, the thing is that for many people the aesthetics is more important than getting the most technically sound solution, "good enough" is plenty when it's made pretty.

This is IKEA "furniture" we're talking about.

"Good enough" means the particle board interior starts falling apart in 3 months.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (5, Insightful)

slyrat (1143997) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709373)

This is IKEA "furniture" we're talking about.

"Good enough" means the particle board interior starts falling apart in 3 months.

Have you actually owned IKEA furniture? I've had a set of shelves from there that have lasted me at least 6 years and two moves. They may have a lot of particle board furniture but it is well made for the materials involved.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709727)

It really depends on the type of furniture you get from ikea, some is really solid, but most is not. Most of their stuff has usually some breaking points, usually it is very soft wood or lousy hinges. But about 5% of their stuff is rather solidly built. For instance some of their all time classics, like the famous ikea chair.

So I guess you were mostly lucky to get the solid stuff.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (4, Interesting)

janimal (172428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709953)

I would have to disagree. In my experience, it's the opposite. About 5% is poorly built. My advice, don't buy the cheap stuff. Ikea has a lot of it on display, but it doesn't make a large proportion of the assortment.
I furnished a whole apartment from IKEA and 7 years on and 3rd renter (yes, I rent it) and it's still fine. The Kitchen, the closets, the chairs. Honestly, just because you have to put it together it gets a bad rep. I used to collect money to get IKEA stuff. When I finally got it, putting it together was something my wife and I REALLY looked forward to. It was like playing Legos all over again. And my wife likes it! It's genius. They're the Apple of furniture. Complain all you want about your pet insignificant peeve about it, but it sells like hotcakes and the customers absolutely love it.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (1)

Lucas123 (935744) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709751)

My wife and I have purchased several piece of furniture from IKEA and we're very pleased. Sure, they're not made from top notch materials, but how long are you going to own a couch? They're out of style in 6 or 7 years. And, frankly, I'm quite impressed with the construction of their furniture -- very sturdy and comfortable. We bought a couch, oversized chair and a book case from IKEA. We're pleased with all three. Would I buy their furniture for our family room, that gets used every single night, from IKEA? Probably not, but for our living room, it's perfect, and not expensive. That's my two cents. Oh, and I love their sticky buns.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (2)

eggstasy (458692) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709893)

Have you actually owned REAL furniture?
While writing this from the comfort of my great-grandfather's riveted leather couch, I can't help but think that my hardwood cupboard used to belong to my great-great-grandfather. 6 years? It must be at least 20 times older than that.
I don't expect to have to buy new furniture, at all, ever.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39710293)

We, as a species, do not have the space, time, resources or money to allow everyone to have furniture of that calibre. How many people in your great grandfather's time had furniture like that?

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (4, Insightful)

nabsltd (1313397) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710319)

Have you actually owned REAL furniture?

I own both, and the nearly 20-year-old IKEA stuff that I got in college (and thus survived numerous moves and lots of college stupidity) seems like it should last as long as any "real" furniture.

While writing this from the comfort of my great-grandfather's riveted leather couch, I can't help but think that my hardwood cupboard used to belong to my great-great-grandfather.

Neither of which has likely suffered any real abuse. Even fairly cheap furniture can last a very long time if it is treated kindly.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (0)

nabsltd (1313397) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710419)

And, I forgot to mention that I am writing this post while sitting at a desk that my dad and I designed and built together. My home-entertainment center is based on a design that my dad and I built for my college days, but I needed a larger one now, so my wife and I built this one about 9 years ago.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (2)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709911)

It really depends on exactly what you buy. I've seen things from IKEA that last 10 years, and I've seen things that fall apart in 2. Part of the problem is self-assembly. Something that isn't put together properly or with the screws a little too loose or too tight is going to have problems in the long term. Also, since when is 6 years a long time for something to last? People used to buy real wood furniture and pass it down through the generations. We currently have a table in our kitchen that my wife had in her house when she was a kid. Over 25 years old, easiliy. It wasn't even an expensive table. But it was built out of real wood, with sound construction techniques.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (1)

need4mospd (1146215) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709971)

I second this. Not all particle board is identical. Three bedroom sets, numerous shelves, kid furniture, etc... has all lasted at least 5+ years and a couple moves. And there's no indication that they wouldn't last another 10. The stuff I've bought at the local big box office supply store is FAR worse quality than IKEA. I had a shelf that sagged when I put anything heavier than empty DVD cases on it. Meanwhile, I've got heavy books on an IKEA shelf that have been there 10 years, and it's still "straight as a board".

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39710097)

This is IKEA "furniture" we're talking about.

"Good enough" means the particle board interior starts falling apart in 3 months.

Have you actually owned IKEA furniture? I've had a set of shelves from there that have lasted me at least 6 years and two moves. They may have a lot of particle board furniture but it is well made for the materials involved.

Wow. Modded up to +5 and you even had to qualify it.

Must have gone over the head of the basement-dwelling, can't-afford-real-furniture IKEA fanbois.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (1)

grumpyman (849537) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710541)

I have a dresser. 12 years and 2 moves and 2 kids - still kicking : ) But I'd to say some of them are pretty bad quality.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39710783)

Sure have, and I've gone through 2 bed frames an end table, and three bookshelves over 3 moves.

Might I ask if you actually USE any of your furniture, or do you just delicately place it like a Faberge egg, then flee for your life afterwards?

I have a new rule for ikea: if it isn't made of solid wood ala http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50106773/ , then it can gtfo.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709471)

It comes with a 5-year warranty.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (1)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709613)

To be fair, I've found that the quality of IKEA furniture is directly proportional to the price. The cheaper IKEA stuff is just euro-styled Wal-mart tier particleboard crap, but their higher-end stuff is comparable in quality to most good furniture out there...

At least, that's been my experience among friends and family that shop there. I don't have much IKEA stuff myself just because I prefer antiques and more traditional styles of furniture...

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709753)

Yes that sums it up pretty much with a handful of exceptions. Problem is their solid stuff is about the same pricewise as other furniture so there is no reason to buy explicitely from Ikea. What I personally think where they are really good at pricewise, is small breakable kitchen stuff.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (1)

MacTO (1161105) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710003)

This is IKEA furniture we're talking about. Which means that it's both inexpensive and the quality is reasonable for the price.

They're furniture certainly isn't something that you pass down through the generations, but it will probably last a few years. Which is unlike the cheap chipboard furniture you find in many department stores. It fits the budgets of many people. You can't say that for quality furniture, which will probably cost as much to move as many IKEA pieces cost to buy. And the designs are sufficiently spartan that it will never go out of (or into) style. Yes mom, I'm complaining about that hideous Persian style sofa you bought a few decades back and could never find anyone to take off your hands.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39710241)

According to you, and the fact that IKEA's sales make it the largest charity in the world, the streets should be littered with the stuff. Yet they aren't.

If anything should put you off IKEA, it's not the build quality since it is fine. It's their slimy way of not paying taxes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stichting_INGKA_Foundation

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (3, Interesting)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709409)

Not to be combative, but generally speaking things like this are miserable failures. You get a bad fridge AND a bad tv, regardless if it's pretty or not. Thus, the first guy's post isn't as self-centered as you've indicated. I too lament the loss of "component" technology in favor of all-in-ones (my home stereo, for example...) but understand some all-in-one things have become so cheap, they are easier to just replace the entire thing than it is to maintain multiple parts (iMac vs. Mac Pro, for another example).

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (4, Insightful)

Troyusrex (2446430) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709497)

Here's a (made up) quote from you from 2001.

If I want a cell phone, I'll buy a cell phone. If I want an MP3 player, I'll buy an MP3 player. If I want a PDA I'll buy a PDA

The deal here is simple, sometimes putting stuff together is a tremendous boon, sometimes not. Sometimes it depends on how well it's done. Ikea's version may stink like all the rest has, but then again it may suceed where others have failed.

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (1)

Lord Lode (1290856) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709543)

What if you don't have enough room for both a fridge and a tv set?

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709729)

What if you don't have enough room for both a fridge and a tv set?

IKEA sells boxes that are big enough to be an addition to your home, condo or apartment. First you expand your living space with an IKEA box and then you fill it with the stuff that came in the IKEA box ;-)

Re:I don't want a combination fridge/TV set (1)

Jerom (96338) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710929)

Hey, I'd love a TV / microwave combo! It would take up about the space of an old CRT, so it would be "compatible" with my old furniture!

Coming to think of it. A TV / mini-fridge combo would be awesome too.

Does anyone know if someone makes those?

Electronics Vs Furniture (3, Insightful)

c0mpliant (1516433) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709151)

I don't think I would go for a TV based on the fact that it matches the furniture, I choose the TV I want and then find furniture that I want to match it. I think most nerds would be the same. Chalk it off as do not want for me

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709233)

You are in the minority
Many people I know will first ask "Which laptops/phones are available in pink?", and then choose from that subset
(there seems to be a stereotypical love for pink in girls, and Grey/Silver/Black in boys)

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709437)

In the US market, the Galaxy S and iPhone don't come in pink and those are the top two selling phones. Likewise for laptops.

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (1)

simcop2387 (703011) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709677)

That's because you can accesorize them into pink!

http://compare.ebay.com/like/170541070215?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar [ebay.com]
http://www.otterbox.com/strength/strength,default,pg.html [otterbox.com]

those are just the two i found off the top of google. I'm not sure about laptops, but for phones there's a huge market out there of customizations to make it "you" just like the thousands of others of people who buy the same cover.

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709863)

But if you can accessorize, then you don't have to make your initial decision based on color limitations. I guess(?) people are shallow enough to buy a phone based on the accessory colors that are available, but I'm just going to guess people aren't buying iPhones because you can get a Pink Camo Hello Kitty cover for it, rather, they are buying it for more substantial reasons, like emoji in text...

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (2)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709265)

Most nerds wouldn't give a damn about everything matching. Functionality over aesthetics. I'd buy a Hello Kitty television if it were the best damned TV for the money.

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709463)

Ummm... wouldn't a Hello Kitty TV BE the best damned TV?

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709361)

Nerds does not match their furniture. Period. Matching furniture is meant for latte-sipping Apple fanbois. Fact.

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (1)

c0mpliant (1516433) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709647)

I meant match as in will this TV fit into this shelving unit thing. Personally so long as it stores things neatly and isn't pink and covered in yellow polka dots its will do. I take functionality over aesthetics most days. No point in having an awesome TV if you have to put it sideways on whatever unit to make it fit but also no point in having an awesome TV if the unit that its on is going to be more distracting than the TV itself

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709755)

I think it kind of depends on whether you've reached a point with the electronics where you can kind of buy whatever and trust that it's "good enough". Like I don't go around spending lots of time shopping out light bulbs. I'm not an audiophile, so as long as speakers don't totally stink, I'd probably be fine with them being built into the walls or into furniture. The main reason I wouldn't want a TV built into my furniture is really because TV designs are still in such flux, and there will probably be something 10 times better in the next 5 years, and there's such a wide disparity right now between different sets.

And a bluray player? Are people really using blurays? I'd just skipped from DVD to streaming, and the idea of buying discs seems almost quaint.

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (1)

bws111 (1216812) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709865)

Just last week my wife stopped and got a Blu-ray disc from RedBox, after about a year of using only Netflix streaming, etc. About a minute into the movie we were both wondering how we ever go so lazy that it was worth giving up the quality of Blu-ray just so we didn't have to go get a disc.

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (1)

nabsltd (1313397) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710441)

About a minute into the movie we were both wondering how we ever go so lazy that it was worth giving up the quality of Blu-ray just so we didn't have to go get a disc.

The true /. way is to rip your Blu-Rays to a shared hard drive and stream them to your media players and have the best of both worlds.

Re:Electronics Vs Furniture (1)

Compaqt (1758360) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709937)

One word: Curtis Mathes [wikipedia.org]

battery-powered subwoofer? (2)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709185)

seems like a poor idea for a fixed in place TV / stand

Re:battery-powered subwoofer? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709385)

the video doesn't say that it's battery powered? only the poorly written article does.

a stroke of genius?? feck no. they're selling a tv stand and a tv at the same time, that's just about it. the tv being pretty much slapped on top of the furniture. 24" from a shop leaves you a bunch of money to buy a ps3 and a full soundsystem and some ikea stuff to put it on..

Re:battery-powered subwoofer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709395)

Most "wireless" subwoofers actually have a power cord. I suspect that the mention of it being battery powered was an incorrect assumption by the article author.

Re:battery-powered subwoofer? (2)

janimal (172428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709983)

And the iPhone is a poor idea for a product, because it's locked down. Next straw man, please.

Which will last longer (0)

ickleberry (864871) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709201)

The poor quality chipboard furniture or the Chinese speakers they're putting in them? It's hard to know with this combination

Overpriced and little reason to buy (1, Funny)

psyclone241 (733888) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709211)

All I got from this story was..... She looks like Princess Leia's slightly older, much prettier sister, with a sexy accent. I can build a custom cabinet for my TV, with much more features. I must admit though, IKEA is a cool store to visit, if I want to earn browny points with the wife. She could spend days in there if they let her.

Re:Overpriced and little reason to buy (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710179)

I must admit though, IKEA is a cool store to visit, if I want to earn browny points with the wife. She could spend days in there if they let her.

They just opened a new store in my area ... well, they replaced the existing one.

Quite frankly, the place terrifies me. As you drive by it, it's enormous. It dwarfs the mall and restaurants near it, has something like 4 levels of parking. They went from 113,000 square feet to 427,000 square feet.

When you drive by it on the highway it looks so ridiculously outsized, it's not funny. It really is quite incongruous and looks like it is as big as some malls -- except it's a giant yellow and blue building. I think it even has a jumbotron on the front of it.

I'm curious, but I just can't imagine trying to go there on a weekend or most evenings. It was already overly difficult to get in and out and crammed with people and annoying to get in and out of.

They've got some cool stuff, but with the size of the one near me, I just don't know if I even want to go there any more. At least not without bringing my portable GPS and a snack. ;-)

allen wrench. (3, Funny)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709251)

And it comes with a book of c code to run the device, that must be typed in manually with disposable keyboard (included).

Re:allen wrench. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709359)

You, sir, are a god among men.

Re:allen wrench. (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709947)

Why would you have to type in c code? I would expect machine code, like they had in the old Byte(?) magazine.

Ikea is garbage (-1, Flamebait)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709259)

Anything that's made of particle board with a thin plastic or vinyl laminate is garbage. It's easily prone to water damage and warping. Not to mention it's heavy as hell. Don't buy this crap! You can get better stuff made in vietnam in the same price range. And it's solid wood!

Re:Ikea is garbage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709327)

Their low-end... is actually pretty good for the price. If you want new furniture, you can't beat their low-end value.

Their mid-level... is pretty average. It's nothing amazing, and not particularly a good value.

Their high-end stuff... some of its good, but not all of it. You are generally better off going to local furniture store.

Re:Ikea is garbage (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709343)

it only has to last until the next move. with people moving houses every 10 years or less on average ikea is a pretty good deal for the price they charge. why buy some expensive furniture that will be scratched up by the movers? and with kids everywhere ikea is awesome for the evil minions of hell that jump on furniture

Re:Ikea is garbage (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709425)

If you're going that route why not just shop craigslist etc? There's a staggering amount of furniture out there that people don't want. I don't propose everyone do what we did and buy a $125 leather couch set and refurb it, but there's plenty of genuinely nice stuff out there of better quality than Krapea.

Re:Ikea is garbage (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709577)

because ikea will deliver

i have a honda CR-V and dont want to scratch it up buying used furniture

Re:Ikea is garbage (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709649)

It's actually cheaper to rent a pickup and buy something quality used than it is to buy some complete shit from IKEA that didn't even need to be made in the first place because there's so much used furniture lying around.

Re:Ikea is garbage (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710067)

Also, you can rent big vans from Home Depot for about $25 for an hour or 2. Lots of space in there. They generally like if you buy something from them first, but I've known people who bought something big just to rent the van, go pick up what they actually needed, and then return the van and the large item at the same time. Also, truck rental places will give you a deal in the middle of the month when they aren't renting out many trucks. Just tell them you only need it for a couple hours. The trucks just sit there most of the time anyway, they only are really fully booked at the end/beginning of the month when most people move.

Re:Ikea is garbage (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709449)

I've found everything they have in the sub 40 euro category to have been pretty good value for money.

I wouldn't recommend shelling 400 euros+ for them for any item though. though I think one can furnish their home with just the sub 40 euro stuff from ikea and bauhaus pretty nicely. I'm not much into antiques or heavy wood stuff that I'd need to care for.

Re:Ikea is garbage (1)

godrik (1287354) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709499)

Interestingly, I find IKEA's furniture reasonnably durable. They are definitely not the best quality, but they are reasonnably cheap, they will still last years and they are often in a simple but modern style.

Re:Ikea is garbage (1)

bws111 (1216812) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709587)

I have a computer desk that I bought from them about 7 years ago. It cost about $40. I don't know what it is made of, some sort of honeycomb construction I imagine, because it is very light. Anyway, after 7 years of holding up a 17 inch CRT it has not sagged at all. I have no complaints at all about their furniture.

Re:Ikea is garbage (1)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709735)

If you want cheap furniture there's no better place to go. They actually put thought into how the furniture is constructed and try to make the best of the materials they use. This is a far cry from other bargain furniture, like the junk you might find at Walmart.

This doesn't mean, however, that it makes sense to buy everything from Ikea. I would never buy certain items from Ikea I expect to use extensively. Sofas come to mind and office desks. But it really depends on the item, because Ikea does offer certain higher quality products that stand up to years of use.

When Ikea is offering a cabinet for $100 that starts at $400 anywhere else, you can't expect durability.

Everything old is new again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709279)

When TVs (and radios before them) were huge and heavy, electronics manufacturers did their best to convince consumers that they were just another piece of furniture, not some exotic mess of wires and tubes that they had to tolerate in their living rooms. Accordingly, they would make a half-dozen different versions of the same TV, the only difference being the style and finish of the (wood/fake wood) cabinet.

I guess now that electronics are disposable, it makes sense to build them into cheap furniture.

new ways to fail (3, Insightful)

Shavano (2541114) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709307)

So now my furniture won't just go out of style. It will literally become obsolete and have interoperability issues.

Support? (1)

renzema (84617) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709311)

When Ikea rebranded Westinghouse/Whirlpool dishwashers, no problem - the underlying companies will support them with spare parts for years to come, but now when you go to Ikea, it all their own brand dishwashers and ovens - where do you go for spare parts? Ikea has great reputation for abandoning products and making things that don't last so long. I wouldn't touch their own brand of anything that plugs into a wall outside of simple lights.

It's really hard to make money in electronics - many companies, but retailers and manufacturers, fail to make money - just look at Dixon's (UK), Best Buy (US), On/Off (Sweden), Sony, etc. and these companies already have very advanced supply chains. Ikea doesn't bring anything new to the table here.

Re:Support? (1)

janimal (172428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709995)

Are you sure it's their own brand? Maybe they're still in negotiations with the manufacturers?
I seriously doubt Ikea has a consumer electronics engineering team.

Do I Have to... (2)

Idbar (1034346) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709335)

So, do I have to build the TV too? I wonder if they'll give me everything in a box... including the solder to put the TV together. Exciting puzzle that would be!

Blu-Ray? (1, Interesting)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709357)

What is Blu-Ray again? Isn't that the technology that a very small minority of people used for a very short period of time to bridge the gap during the transition from DVDs to online delivery?

But seriously, what is it with companies coming to the party late and/or clinging to dead/dying technology. Are their processes so inefficient that by the time they produce something, it's already out of date?

Re:Blu-Ray? (2)

netsavior (627338) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709481)

Blu-ray is still only about 1/4 the market of plastic coasters containing commercials and occasionally movies. DVD is still 75% (by sales). The blu-ray player does both. Online delivery is starting to break through mainstream, but isn't really firmly out of the *geek* sector yet... Especially in Europe (ikea's main market) where netflix is a joke, and bandwidth is sold by the gigabyte.

Re:Blu-Ray? (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709533)

But still, even in Europe, the writing must be on the wall. It was becoming inevitable in England even though I moved from there back in 2007. Not to diminish the importance of the rest of Western Europe, but I'm not sure too many global companies can bank their success on technology that will be out of date by the time they get to market.

Plus, all we ever hear about is how the rest of the world has such better bandwidth/service than the US, but pretty much everywhere I've been in the US has streaming services (several different ones, iTunes, Netflix, Hulu, all the other free stuff on the streaming devices you can buy...)

Sure, there will always be the crazy old cat lady with her collection of Disney VHS tapes that will never need anything else, but I don't think they are buying ANYTHING, let alone combo couch/tv/fridge thingies from IKEA.

Re:Blu-Ray? (1)

PARENA (413947) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710043)

Bandwidth sold by the gigabyte? I thought that was the US with all these stories on slashdot about monthly caps while at the same time streaming is becoming bigger and bigger. I've had different ISP's in the Netherlands and Finland and have never heard of such a thing. It's mostly fair use as far as I know, but I haven't heard stories of any problems with that, either.

Netflix: yes, it's in the UK now, isn't it? That's about it. And there are no good alternatives, either. So in that sense, Europe sucks, indeed. :(

Re:Blu-Ray? (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710213)

Netflix: yes, it's in the UK now, isn't it? That's about it.

Something of a digression, but from what I hear, UK Netflix has a much smaller selection than the US version, and a surprisingly poor interface.

Re:Blu-Ray? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709489)

Blu-ray is the highest quality high-definition format that actually has accessibility features (what irony! Accessibility wrapped in DRM!) that deaf people can use, unlike 90%+ of on-line content.

Re:Blu-Ray? (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709563)

what's online delivery? isn't it that crazy tech where you buy a movie in one "store" and can only watch it on devices that support that "store" and can't watch it from another store's software?

why would anyone do that?

Re:Blu-Ray? (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709797)

Because last I checked, Netflix isn't available on pretty much every device on the planet. In my house alone, Netflix is built-in to: AppleTV, Roku, Samsung Blu-ray player (yeah, yeah, I know, I ripped on blu-ray only to admit I have a blu-ray player, but that's how I realized how stupid blu-ray is, after all), all my computers, all my phones, my iPad and my 52" tv.

The only merit to your argument I see is if you want to own the media long term. Most people don't care to, but most people aren't geeks on slashdot, so I get it if you like to hoard media. It's just a lot less messy to hoard media when you cut out the shiny spinning disc thingies.

Re:Blu-Ray? (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709955)

too bad the netflix selection sucks unless your're into b movies or ancient aliens

Re:Blu-Ray? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39710007)

Interesting, netflix is not available at all in the Netherlands.
You might be able to rent some from your local cable company, but your milage will vary.
When I got an HD TV, best way to get some HD content was to watch downloaded content on a pc connected to the HD TV. Bluray was way overpriced back then (400 euro for a player, really!). Prices came down, so I now have a player. However, all the video rental stores went out of business. Why again would I pay 20 euros for a Bluray I will watch once, maybe twice?
Strange, strange, all the TPB stuff going on over here.

Re:Blu-Ray? (1)

Cajun Hell (725246) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710445)

The only merit to your argument I see is if you want to own the media long term.

No, that's one argument against building a Netflix-compatible device. Another argument is that it is illegal (and well as difficult thanks to trade secrets) to create a Netflix implementation without permission. Type "apt-get source netflix" sometimes and watch it not happen.

You say there are multiple Netflix implementations. I say there is one, because all apparently-different implementations are controlled by one party. Netflix is just another iTunes Store or XBox Live service.

Buy into their proprietary vision and you can have a satisfactory experience. I know several people who use Netflix and are happy with it, just as I know people who are happy with their XBoxes and people who are happy with their iPhones. But you have to take it or leave it. Deviate from what they allow (and this goes beyond merely long-term ownership) and you are not allowed to play the media, with the full force of law backing that prohibition.

Re:Blu-Ray? (2)

EnsilZah (575600) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709999)

Don't be silly, it's a convenient master source from which pirates bring us all our wonderful movies.

Re:Blu-Ray? (1)

Cajun Hell (725246) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710189)

What is Blu-Ray again?

Blu-Ray is the medium the anti-business studios use for delivering source material to the release groups. It's consumer-hostile enough to not be suitable for common everyday people, but easy enough to crack to be suitable for the release groups. The release groups then prepare the easy-to-use files for their sooper-sekrit channels and from there it goes to bittorrent for everyone.

While I can't imagine why any mass market device needs to actually play Blu-Ray discs themselves, having the capability helps to "prove" the device's bitrate capabilities. If your hardware can play Blu-Ray then it's likely capable of anything, so no mkv will ever stutter.

Re:Blu-Ray? (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710253)

Nice response. Too bad I can't moderate a response to my comment that is well stated like yours was.

Its a wonderful idea (2)

maroberts (15852) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709379)

With the durability of Ikea furniture, they'll be able to sell you a new sofa AND a new hi-fi, tv and game system every year!

Begging the question (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709399)

Prices start at 6,500 Swedish Kroner (around $950) â" presumably for the 24-inch version â" which is a fairly good deal.

But uh, is it? You get some shitty furniture and probably a mediocre TV and certainly a mediocre Blu-Ray player for $950. A 24" TV is somewhere from $150 to $400, let's call it $200 because it will probably not be very good. A Blu-Ray player is maybe $100 itself. Is a crappy piece of IKEA furniture which has space for only one games console worth $750? MY SOURCES SAY NO.

Re:Begging the question (1)

janimal (172428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710029)

When I was 15 the best TV you could get was a cylindrical Trinitron. All the other TVs sucked compared to it. Do you think most of my friend's parents bought Trinitrons?

OMG the 80s are back! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709503)

It was a stupid idea then, it is a stupid idea now.

Already tried (1)

Pionar (620916) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709517)

Sony used to have a TV stand that had a built-in entertainment system (speakers, subwoofer, receiever, DVD player - this was before BluRay) back when I sold electronics in the mid 2000s. No one bought the thing because it was overpriced and what happens when something breaks? You have to take the whole damn thing in to get something fixed.

But, this is IKEA, so it probably comes in 1500 pieces and uses cartoon drawings of people putting it together that you'll want to slash in the throat before you get done putting it together.

Re:Already tried (2)

janimal (172428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710045)

Says the guy, who probably slashed his fingers taking out ISA, PCI or AGP cards from his custom made tower PC.

slow news day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39709527)

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swede-tastic taste sensation (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709539)

Love the meatballs.

Everything that's old is new again (1)

Progman3K (515744) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709601)

I remember when I was a kid, many households had a TV room which consisted of an enourmous piece of furniture that housed the television, record-player, radio-tuner, amplifier and speakers.

Then the pendulum swung the other way and people were buying furniture units to house their modular electronic components.

Nothing ever goes away, does it?

Also, get off my lawn

Another advertisement? (1)

guanxi (216397) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709659)

Yet another ad? This time we're even given prices and the colors it comes in. Is this the home shopping channel for nerds? There is nothing innovative or interesting about gimmick furniture with run-of-the-mill consumer electronics embedded in it. This isn't Google Glasses or a 3-D printer.

The editors may again protest that they didn't intend it as an ad. Either that's disingenuous or they are blind to what any reader can see. I wish they would put as much effort into finding great content as into spamming their own homepage.

This is not the furniture I was looking for... (1)

lessthan (977374) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709769)

Boring! TVs built into tables has been done. I want a TV built into my recliner! And wheels.

IKEA likely has 3 goals in mind (1)

dryriver (1010635) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709775)

1) To lure people who don't really like furniture shopping into a furniture store (because you can go look at tech stuff like LCD TVs, BluRay players and the like now, while your wife shops for lawnchairs, table cloths and garden pottery) 2) To give people who are easily confused by detailed electronics specs (e.g. choosing from 40 different LCD TVs in a big electronics store) a simple option of buying one, pre-selected TV/BluRay/Cabinet combo. You pay-once, transport-once with this deal, instead of getting your stuff from 2 - 3 different stores that may be miles apart. In all likelihood, IKEA will select electronics for this that are cheap, good and durable, so there won't be a product quality problem when you buy your tech from IKEA 3) If the initial strategy of selling TV/BR electronics at IKEA works out profitably, you can follow this strategy up by doing the same with PCs (PC+ColourPrinter+Desk), or Game Consoles, or indeed starting to sell DVDs/BluRays/Games/Software at IKEA. ----------------- Probably most important in all this is goal 1) - bringing new people to IKEA stores, who don't normally like IKEA at all, because it is a pretty boring place unless you are into looking at chairs, tables, couches, lamps, shelves for 2 hours.

That's not the IKEA I know (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709793)

The IKEA I know would simply sell a VESA (or maybe own IKEA standard) TV fixing that can be mounted perfectly to 90% of other IKEA furniture, some adhesive cable holders and offer a range of TVs. And OF COURSE you have to assemble it yourself!

And a mix'n'match online configurater tool that prints your shopping list.

BTW. there is a site out there for IKEA hacking. Shows what you can do with their anything - matches -anything else concept.

Left handed allen wrench (1)

sdk4777 (1013597) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709809)

So, I guess this means I have to put together the TV and sound system with only a left allen wrench as well? Or maybe the right handed one?

this level of integration (0)

nimbius (983462) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709889)

is a sardontic furthering of a disposable society at the expense of its citizens. 36% of americans are obese (almost too fat to move) and another 35% are overweight. Ikea is integrating into furnature the very accoutrements of our lifestyles that are killing us. televisions do nothing more than sell commercial advertisement space and incense the general populous to cast their votes lock-step in the party lines. and for all this we pay almost a thousand dollars, and reap nothing but preventative disease at the hands of a sedentary lifestyle.

Re:this level of integration (1)

sdk4777 (1013597) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710181)

Well, at least they have to get off their asses to buy this stuff, right? Actually, all successful companies do just that what you say. This is how it works. The obese too fat too move overweight wage slaves motivate the other 64% to get out of bed at 7 am, and move their asses, just to make sure there's enough MTV's and kitchen deliveries.

No more fake displays? (1)

renzema (84617) | more than 2 years ago | (#39709923)

Does this mean the end of the fake plastic TVs and laptops that they use in their in-store displays? :(

Slashdot: This is not for you (1)

Sez Zero (586611) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710027)

But for your grandma who still has the 1980's console CRT authentic wood television/coffee table... this is for her. Or my parents, who watch TV once a week who are still using the TV my sister left behind when she left for grad school. This is for them.

It's easy. Why does Slashdot never understand easy?

Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39710205)

Don't people take their iPad into the kitchen?

What is that right above? (1)

Skapare (16644) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710481)

Is that the real TV on the wall right above the integrated (and redundant) furniture TV?

Nothing compelling (1)

grumpyman (849537) | more than 2 years ago | (#39710791)

I don't think it solve much more than a better organized way for cabling.
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