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Volcano Near Mexico City Becomes More Active

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the danger-will-robinson dept.

Earth 114

benfrog writes "Popocatépetl, a volcano that sits 34 miles east of Mexico City, has begun a series of small eruptions. It's feared that larger eruptions would not only endanger people within range of its explosions, but disrupt life in Mexico City with ash clouds. 'People in the village of Xalitzintla said they were awakened by a window-rattling series of eruptions. Mexico’s National Disaster Prevention Center said one string of eruptions ended in the early morning, then the volcano started up again at 5:05 a.m., with at least 12 eruptions in two hours.' More than 30 million people live within sight of the volcano."

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114 comments

Well (4, Funny)

masternerdguy (2468142) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776095)

Must be all the tacos.

Re:Well (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776135)

You're right! With all the talk about carbon dioxide we've been ignoring the consequences of methane pollution.

Ash and Mexico City (2)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777673)

disrupt life in Mexico City with ash clouds

The air quality of Mexico City is very dirty, so dirty that birds actually die while they were flying and fall down from the sky

And I read somewhere that an American diplomat once commented that the dust you see in Mexico City is mostly made up of dried manure

In light of this, a little bit volcano ash won't do much harm to Mexico City

Re:Ash and Mexico City (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39779901)

Thats just pure bullshit. Not the manure you mention but the entire statement. Mexico city is no worse than any american city and compared to many it is as pure as spring water. Maybe you should actually visit a place before badmouthing it.

Re:Ash and Mexico City (3, Informative)

Coren22 (1625475) | about 2 years ago | (#39780805)

I wonder how many American cities you have been too. LA and Mexico City have the same issue, they are both built in a depression which traps the pollution, so they both have the same issue of a haze. New York however has very little in the way of air pollution, though I wouldn't want to swim in the rivers running through the city. :) Pollution issues in cities mostly has to do with geography, until we move from ICE, it is something we can't do too much about.

Improvement in the last 20 years (1)

gwolf (26339) | about 2 years ago | (#39782811)

Well... As a Mexican living in Mexico City, I beg to differ. And have some first-hand information.

Our air is not as clear and clean as it (c|sh)ould be, of course. But neither is the air of any ~20 million people city. Starting in 1989, very important programs to improve the air have been implemented. Some ideas –some bad, some good– were also scrapped in the process. The main points:

  The most polluting industries have been moved farther away from the city (or relocated to other places in the country)
  There is a mandatory emmissions control for all vehicles carried out twice a year for each car, strictly followed.
  As a result of the previous point: If your car is less than ten years old and has low enough emissions, no restrictions are placed on it. Older cars, or cars that don't meet the threshold, have to "sleep" one day a week, and one weekend a month.
  The biggest open-air dump yards and sewage systems have slowly been closed and converted. This is an ongoing process, and very hard to get right, but it is moving in the right direction.

And yes, our city is still big and polluted — But when I've travelled to several South American countries, I have been astonished at how older cars leave a stench of bad combustion... That does not happen here any more. And that's indicative on why our air was in such a critical level 20 years ago.

Re:Well (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776457)

Just means 30 million less potential illegal immigrants. Win-win for us.

Re:Well (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776613)

fuck off hitler!

Re:Well (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39777941)

I guess he's "racist" because he doesnt want any more LEECHES on his government.......... Too bad "racist" is no longer a viable word with definition because these days, the buffoons that be will call you "racist" if you dont like the same FOOD that someone else likes. Doesnt matter if they're the SAME race either. You're "racist" in the eyes of the wonderfully educated generation ME FIRSTS...

Re:Well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39778101)

yes. thats right. because he/she CONTROLS THE VOLCANO. you idiot.

Re:Well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39778579)

Or... They will start jumping the border just because there is a potential for danger. Now we have to accept them :-( Don't wanting them to die...

Re:Well (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776721)

must be, just the fart of your mother

Re:Well (1)

Weatherlawyer (2596357) | more than 2 years ago | (#39778681)

Scores 5? Funny? What century is this?

Re:Well (1)

virgnarus (1949790) | more than 2 years ago | (#39778767)

Montezuma's Revenge.

See, this is why... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776119)

...we need to move away from volcano-generated electricity, and decommission all volcanos near population centers immediately.

Re:See, this is why... (4, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776155)

But I can keep my volcano based supervillain lair, right?

Re:See, this is why... (4, Funny)

mooingyak (720677) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776175)

...we need to move away from volcano-generated electricity, and decommission all volcanos near population centers immediately.

No no no. The problem is that we're using antiquated volcano design with inferior failsafes.

Re:See, this is why... (1)

shiftless (410350) | about 2 years ago | (#39780567)

Agreed. With a large enough containment field we could discharge the magma flow safely and carefully. Unfortunately, the technology to do this won't be invented for another 47 years.

Re:See, this is why... (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776693)

Why? I have wondered if we do this right, if geo-thermal could pull the heat away to quiet down volcanos.

Re:See, this is why... (1)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776733)

Not a heat issue, it's a pressure issue. The fluid rock in the mantle squezes up into magma cavities underneath under the volcanos.

Now, it's possible to have a solid rock cap on top of such a cavity, but that results in massive explosions of smoke and ash (see pictures of cone-type volcanos) rather than long flows of very fluid magma (see pictures of shield-type volcanos).

Granted, it's been a couple decades since I covered any of this in a geography class, so I could be wrong.

Re:See, this is why... (1)

danbert8 (1024253) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777715)

It has been awhile. I think you mean geology, not geography...

Re:See, this is why... (1)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777801)

Nope. The class's name was geography. Once upon a time, they also taught some geology under those classes. That I remember.

Earthquake link? (5, Interesting)

Sooner Boomer (96864) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776173)

There have been numerous large earthquakes along the Pacific coast just West of Mexico City in the past few weeks. I wonder if/how the two might be related?

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/region/N_America.php [usgs.gov]

Shows 4.3 and 5.1 in Central America in the past day...

Re:Earthquake link? (2)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777159)

Most likely, yes given that it's part of the Ring of Fire if not near it. Disruptions just about anywhere along that area tends to cause a shake up (pun not intended) elsewhere shortly following a previous event.

Re:Earthquake link? (4, Informative)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777175)

There are always magnitude 2 - 6 earthquakes around the Pacific Rim - that's why it's called the 'ring of fire'. So yes, it's related, but pretty much business as usual.

Of course, we all know the eruption date (5, Funny)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776201)

December 21

relax, 8 more months to go

Victory (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776247)

I think the Zetas finally have a way to extort the district for protection money

shoutout to all the GLP trolls! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39782721)

Zetas did it! [wikipedia.org]
Damn space alien gangs with their space cocaine...

Here's a hint (4, Informative)

koan (80826) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776259)

Go Google the location of the plates and fault lines, then look at earthquakes for the last 10 years and you will see a pattern.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ypalM7eSBEQ/SdzT_ajylVI/AAAAAAAAAbM/XNB1-z6lvKg/s1600-h/tectonic_map.jpg [blogspot.com]

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/byyear.php [usgs.gov]

Re:Here's a hint (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776607)

And other than plates moving, what pattern do you claim to see?

Re:Here's a hint (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776629)

Let me guess, it's Jesus?

Re:Here's a hint (1)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776663)

Jesus in a plate? Oh, Christ, it's already been done.

Re:Here's a hint (1)

cjjjer (530715) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777433)

How about Jesus in a plate of guacamole?

Re:Here's a hint (1)

philip.paradis (2580427) | more than 2 years ago | (#39778723)

Before or after the guacamole is consumed?

Re:Here's a hint (1, Interesting)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776889)

Go Google the location of the plates and fault lines, then look at earthquakes for the last 10 years and you will see a pattern.

Not really, I see a bunch of earthquakes in random locations along fault lines. Show me a map for the 10 years before that, and then ten years before that, etc... and then we'll talk. Until then, all you have is pseudo-scientific bullshit.

Re:Here's a hint (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777305)

What pseudo-science? I I thought the parent was referring to the location patterns because of the known fault lines. That part is science. Now if we're talking about trying to assign order among chaotic events, then yes, that would be pseudo-scientific BS.

Re:Here's a hint (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39778171)

Because of Mexico city's location the possibility of an massive earthquake or eruption is likely sooner than later as the area is extremely seismically active, there is a ton of data on this if you're willing to Google it.
As for "order among chaotic events" I think you could get an idea of where the next quake would be likely *IF* you have enough data points, and that means tons of sensors with GPS tracking plate movement and predicting stressors, however predicting the exact time of the quake would be difficult at best.

In Iceland using GPS to monitor the bulging of a volcano there they were able to predict the eruption with fairly decent accuracy, they also used other factor like increase in out-gassing and increase in tremors in the area.

Re:Here's a hint (1)

shiftless (410350) | about 2 years ago | (#39780591)

A major volcanic eruption in Mexico City would be quite unfortunate, for more than just the obvious reasons. It could throw Mexico into turmoil and set the stage for an attempted coup. Mexico City is presently one of the few safe places left in the country from the criminal gangs (drug lords and their organizations) who are vying for power.

Check the surroundings first (1)

gwolf (26339) | about 2 years ago | (#39783513)

I live in Mexico City. The Popocatepetl is a very well known and well studied volcano. And no, although it's 35Km away from the city's South Eastern outskirts, Mexico City is by far not at risk. The eruption –in case it happens– would most likely not be a violent one (i.e. as with St. Helen or with Chichonal). This volcano has been passively active for thousands of years. Volcanic activity did increase, yes, but it happens every few years — I'm not sure if it was in 2000 or 2004, but we even saw some lava being spilled out of the crater. Of course, that washed away the glaciar that had been in place for hundreds of years (at the very least).

Oh, and while our country's security situation is VERY far from "quiet" (specially in the last five years where the current president has taken all the wrong decisions), the country is by far not in the face of a civil war or an uprising. The criminal groups that –yes– have created panic in many areas of the country are not after the political control. The violence is linked with the routes for drug transit to the USA, but those groups do not (openly) seek political power. And, even with our elections drawing near (July 1st), it's very far from a real threat nowadays.

Re:Here's a hint (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 2 years ago | (#39778937)

Now if we're talking about trying to assign order among chaotic events, then yes, that would be pseudo-scientific BS.

By taking a random 10 year period and trying to "find a pattern", that's what he was doing.

30 million (-1, Flamebait)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776275)

more than one tenth of mexico already moved to the USA, what's another tenth more?

Re:30 million (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776643)

First off, there are 100 million in Mexico. 30 million would be 1/3 of Mexico. Secondly, there are 12-30 million illegals, of which less than 75% are Mexicans (and if the is PEW's 12 million, then only 6 million are here - 50%).

Sounds like you are letting your bigotry get the better of you.

Re:30 million (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776813)

75% of 30 million is what percentage of 100 million (here's a hint - it's 22.5%).

Need more virgins (5, Funny)

PPH (736903) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776333)

Fast.

Slashdotters, be afraid.

Re:Need more virgins (3, Insightful)

DarkTempes (822722) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776609)

Nah, we're quite safe. We all know that only female virgins are sacrificed.

Re:Need more virgins (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39777219)

Crap, that sucks! And not just because those are probably the only women that would accidentally date slashdot's many male virgins...

Re:Need more virgins (1)

PPH (736903) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777771)

What's the matter? You don't believe in LGBT volcano gods?

Or GOP senators?

Re:Need more virgins (2)

DarkTempes (822722) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777871)

Wouldn't it be female volcano gods that you would sacrifice the male virgins to?

Or I guess gay volcano gods. But still, a volcano god that wants males is statistically more likely to be female than gay.
Says so right in my volcano god almanac.

Re:Need more virgins (1)

PPH (736903) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777903)

Wouldn't it be female volcano gods that you would sacrifice the male virgins to?

I'm trying not to get the Slashdot communities hopes up.

Re:Need more virgins (1)

niktemadur (793971) | about 2 years ago | (#39780039)

Nah, we're quite safe. We all know that only female virgins are sacrificed.

As it turns out, not even a female virgin sacrifice is quite as effective as the right kind of adult:

A man who would come here of his own free will.
A man who has come here with the power of a king by representing the law.
A man who would come here as a virgin.
A man who has come here as a fool.

Well fellow Slashdotters, two or three out of four ain't bad!

Re:Need more virgins (2)

couchslug (175151) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776795)

In other news, archaeologists have discovered an ancient Mayan textile depicting ritual sacrifice of "neckbeards" to placate the volcano god, Slashdopetl.

Re:Need more virgins (1)

necro81 (917438) | about 2 years ago | (#39780755)

No, we just need to dupe some hypochondriac into thinking he has a terminal illness. Jumping into a volcano [imdb.com] is a fine way to go out in style. Just keep Meg Ryan out of the picture, ok?

Oh, wait (1)

Jetra (2622687) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776367)

I got an idea, how about evacuating? I'm sorry, that was a smart idea. Stay there, I'm sure you'll be fine.

Absolutely... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776467)

...evacuate 30 million people. Plus all of Mexico City. Many of whom have limited resources.

Oh... maybe you're not as smart as you think you are.

Re:Absolutely... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39777153)

right. lets burn em to a crisp, add some hot volcano sauce and sell em as snacks on tortilla buns. much better idea!

Re:Absolutely... (1, Insightful)

Jetra (2622687) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777213)

It's called getting up and walking in the direction away from the volcano. Don't need a car, all you need is a great pair of legs. It's not brains, it common sense. I don't know why everyone needs a car to evacuate. "Oh look, a volcano is erupting. We have motorized transportation. Oh well, may as well sit here and accept fate."

Re:Absolutely... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39777289)

Let's assume your health is average. You can walk 2 miles per hour with just the clothes on your back. You might be able to do 20 miles of this on the first day. The 2nd day is blister day.

Now let's throw in the posessions you might need or don't want to leave, like your silver coin collection that would get looted if you left it behind. Let's add grandma and grandpa. Don't forget the kids.

Kiss your 2 miles per hour good-bye, even if you have a cart. Urban Mexicans probably don't have donkeys or carts. Now what do you do?

Now, let's not forget that this thing smokes all the time. Not every eruption is particularly good. So now, every time it smokes a little you're taking a few weeks off from work, packing up the entire household and moving on foot for no good reason.

Yeah, silly them for wanting to get on a bus or waiting until the last minute.

Re:Absolutely... (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777625)

It's called getting up and walking in the direction away from the volcano. Don't need a car, all you need is a great pair of legs. It's not brains, it common sense.

Well, you have one of the largest cities in the world, and its completely surrounded by mountains. Given the past history from the volcano, trying a mass evacuation on foot would probably kill more people than the likely number that would be killed by not evacuating (noting that you need to weight the number that would be killed in a more-significant eruption by the probability of such an eruption actually occurring.)

Re:Absolutely... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39778345)

I love people like you, with no common sense yourself, no idea about weighing relative risk, no empathy for people who may not be exactly like you in health, resources, or obligations, blaming people for their plight when they have little control over their situations.

It's like Ayn Rand meets Robert Heinlein.

How *does* it feel to live with your head up your ass?

Re:Absolutely... (0)

Jetra (2622687) | about 2 years ago | (#39780521)

HAHAHAHA! To say I'm healthy would probably be a far cry from the truth. I have to fight with two older brothers and two cousins and my older brother's friend who, each of them, eat half a fridge to themselves. As for resources, I'm unemployed and the computer I got is worse than Windows 97 both in processing power and memory. I was not blaming anyone, I was just pointing out the obvious solution. As for having little control over their situation, what kind of talk is that? You always have control over your situation, unless your government is Communist or Socialist. The only thing stopping you is that you THINK you don't have any control. I hat Ayn Rand and I've never heard of Robert Heinlein.

And I am the most empathic person of my family. My dad thinks we should bomb Iraq, my older brother, my aunt, and two of my cousin think we should cleanse America of N-words, including the person. I don't have my head up my ass because I actually care about people. I'm not one of those guys who posts stupid shit on Facebook like, "One in every six kids go hungry in America. Like and share this to get the word out to your friends and stop hunger." Yeah, I'm not going to like or share it. Instead, I'm going to my local grocer, grab as many cans of food, bags of ramen, and boxes of cereal and give it to a Food Bank. Look at that, I'm actually helping instead of saying that we should help.

If we weren't so freaking tied to our precious internet, we would actually get stuff done, like when PSN was down for the month and a half and we killed bin Laden.

Re:Absolutely... (1)

Jetra (2622687) | about 2 years ago | (#39780569)

I meant to say President, not Person.

What the heck is wrong with me all of a sudden?

Re:Oh, wait (1)

tomhath (637240) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777071)

If that thing blows I'm sure most of the 30 million will evacuate something. And they'll need a change of underwear afterward.

Re:Oh, wait (2)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777733)

Probably would be a minor eruption, and Mexico City would be safe. But, to put it in another perspective, next time that are inusual activity in the Yellowstone caldera like the one 2 years ago, would you order to evacuate half of US?

Re:Oh, wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39779489)

I got an idea, how about evacuating? I'm sorry, that was a smart idea. Stay there, I'm sure you'll be fine.

"Harbingers of sorrow, natural disasters can be the cause of troubling and undesirable stress; And a volcano is no exception. But what should you do if a volcano erupts near you or your family?

Here we see the Stevens family enjoying Sunday picnic. But suddenly, Daughter hears a noise.
It's a volcano. Junior seems worried. But have no fear, junior, Jane learned in school what to do when you hear a volcano erupt.

That's right, Jane. Duck and cover."

Re:Oh, wait (1)

Jetra (2622687) | about 2 years ago | (#39783473)

Reminds me of the old nuclear ICBM drills we did when I was younger. (I was born in 1990, so that should tell you how long we still did the damn drills. Get under your desk, the fifteen pounds of fake wood and stainless steel should protect you from the megatons of explosive power each nuke had including the sterilizing radiation should you survive the fire and shrapnel.)

How do you like them? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776391)

Baked beans vs Refried beans?

Under the Volcano (1)

florescent_beige (608235) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776423)

I was going to type something about Malcolm Lowry but my fingers developed paralysis.

Ash clounds? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776461)

I thought they just called that "Tuesday" in Mexico City.

The important question (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776571)

how to get all of the drug lords to put their base of operations on it? It could solve a lot of issues.

Re:The important question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776761)

Yeah, that'd clean things up in no time -rolling eyes-. Fix the demand side of the equation, and the supply side will fix itself. Unless:
My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my industry. Prepare to be forced to snort cocaine...

Rush is Right! (1)

Thud457 (234763) | about 2 years ago | (#39782857)

Fix the demand side of the equation, and the supply side will fix itself.

If we just listened to Rush Limbaugh and locked up drug addicts like Rush Limbaugh, we wouldn't have any damn Zeta drug gang problem!
errr wait, that would only clear up the big pharma drug gang problem, never mind...

The Mayans were Right!!! (0)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776673)

Sorry, but someone had to say it...

Stupid (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776675)

What kind of idiot builds a city next to a volcano?

N from Edinburgh

Re:Stupid (1)

treeves (963993) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776835)

Dunno. Ask people in Tacoma, Olympia or Vancouver, WA or Portland, OR.

Re:Stupid (2)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777321)

Dunno. Ask people in Tacoma, Olympia or Vancouver, WA or Portland, OR.

Ahh, hipsters. Got it.

Re:Stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39777505)

In Tacoma? Ha. I don't think so.

Re:Stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776855)

They had a good reason. See there was this bird on a cactus eating a snake.

Can't argue with that.

Re:Stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39779773)

They had a good reason. See there was this bird on a cactus eating a snake.

Can't argue with that.

+10 Internets for you.

Re:Stupid (1)

Thud457 (234763) | about 2 years ago | (#39782977)

They had a good reason. See there was this bird on a cactus eating a snake.

Can't argue with that.

peyote's a helluva drug [wikipedia.org]

Re:Stupid (3, Informative)

SgtAaron (181674) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776971)

What kind of idiot builds a city next to a volcano?

For any of us that happen to live in the northwest US or the billion or so others who are near the Pacific ring of fire, we don't really have much choice. Here in Bend, we're only 30 miles from a bunch of old volcanoes--one of them, South Sister, is developing a bulge that grows about 1 inch a year--but if we moved the city farther away, we'd be out in the desert without our wonderful view of the Cascade Mountains and quick access to the ski resort and the dozens of lakes up there. Who would want that? I think it's a lot easier for someone from Scotland (I assume *that* Edinburgh) to avoid volcanoes in his native land, eh?

In any case, lack of proximity does not equal safety. When Mt St Helens erupted in 1980, I was in Spokane, at least a couple of hundred miles away from it, and we got blanketed in ash that made life more difficult for weeks. We didn't suffer from pyroclastic flows or anything, of course, but it's not recommended to breath volcanic ash for any length of time (had to wear masks forever).

Re:Stupid (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777283)

yep, 'cos volcanic ash is very abrasive. Not to mention thixotropic when wet. Stuff turns to very dense mud at the merest sniff of moisture.

Re:Stupid (3, Insightful)

quenda (644621) | more than 2 years ago | (#39779053)

Woosh! Edinburgh castle is famously built on a volcanic crag. So the city is built on the remains of a volcano. Though one extinct for a few hundred million years.

Re:Stupid (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777263)

could be something to do with the unbelievably fertile soil that usually parks itself around the base of the cone?

Re:Stupid (1)

niktemadur (793971) | about 2 years ago | (#39780051)

Phrased in the form of a question, you correctly answered today's first Daily Double.

Re:Stupid (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about 2 years ago | (#39780345)

w00t!

Re:Stupid (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 2 years ago | (#39779061)

Why kind of idiot builds on flood plains?

What kind of idiot builds on the coast?

Re:Stupid (1)

nanahuatzin (1363965) | about 2 years ago | (#39781891)

Not only near a volcano, but in the middle of a Lake., and in an earthquake prone place... and without a proper supply of drinking water. arghhh!

According the tradition, after the Meshica (aztec) leave Aztlan, they wandered for two hundred years, seeking a signal sent by their god Huitzilopochtli: An eagle on the top of a Cactus. And finally they found it..

In the middle of a lake, in a small Island.!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CodexMendoza01.jpg [wikipedia.org]

So, they built a great artificial Island around it.

http://abrahimappel.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/tenochtitlan.jpg [wordpress.com]

Now... the Texcoco lake is a system of Endorheic lakes.. which means, no only that the city suffered form periodic inundations, but that the water was a bit salty , so there was the problem of getting fresh water for the city. They built a system of dams to separate the water of the lake in salty and fresh water. and control the level of water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Texcoco [wikipedia.org]

charming isn't it?

After the conquest, the Spaniards dried the lake, son now... Mexico City suffers form lack of water

Many Mexican Urbanists have confessed they have dream the travel to the past, with some stones at hand.. to sent that damn eagle to a better place.!!

the popo (2)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#39776781)

...never seems to leave mexicans alone.

lol (1)

shiftless (410350) | about 2 years ago | (#39780619)

+1 I know, right...

Proposal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39776921)

If their god wipes them out with a volcano, can we turn the country into the first "freestate" (http://freestateproject.org/)?

JJ

tags (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39777033)

Who the zark tagged this 'globalwarming'? Volcanos don't need no stinkin globalwarming.

Re:tags (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777315)

theory has it that without some major eruptions in recent prehistory the planet would be a large ball of ice. (source: BBC Horizon: Snowball Earth (2001)). Volcanoes emit huge quantities of, among other things, carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide. All major greenhouse gases.

Seems to be business as usual (1)

jbwolfe (241413) | more than 2 years ago | (#39777777)

...for most citizens in Mexico City proper. Coincidentally I sit at this moment about 60 miles away from Popo, and selfishly I'm hoping it holds off blowing it's top for a few more hours at least until I can return home to the US. When I was assigned this trip a month ago I was worried about earthquakes and lack of oxygen. Now this...

Uncharacteristically the weather is great and visibility today is spectacular. Could that be an omen?

You insensible clod! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39778445)

This is slashdot, if the news doesn't deal with computers it will be used as a Monty Phyton tag line!

Mayas training (1)

omar_armas (633987) | more than 2 years ago | (#39778957)

The Mayas are training for Dec. 2012.

Beans, beans, (1)

bdabautcb (1040566) | more than 2 years ago | (#39779097)

the musical fruit, The more you eat, the more you toot! The more you toot, the better you feel, so eat your beans with every meal!! -a song my mom used to sing to me as a child. I'll never forget it.

call me volcano man (1)

ozduo (2043408) | about 2 years ago | (#39779437)

now I have successfully tested my Volcanoanator!

Is there a caldera there? (1)

MickLinux (579158) | about 2 years ago | (#39783133)

Does anyone know, is there a caldera there? When I google it, I see that there was one formed 12k years ago, but if there was one today, then you'd want to watch for a supersonic outgassing, because if that happens, the city needs to evacuate ASAP.

With the outgassing, my understanding is that the pressure reduces to one that is insufficient to hold up the ceiling of the caldera, so you then get a collapse, and a mega-explosion, a la Santarini, Krakatoa, and other such megavolcanos.

Any live web cam (1)

Stan92057 (737634) | about 2 years ago | (#39783489)

Any live web cam broadcast of this event?
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