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Code Name, Theming Update Announced For Ubuntu 12.10

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the neither-jaunty-nor-natty dept.

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benfrog writes "In a blog post, Mark Shuttleworth announced some changes for Ubuntu 12.10 (due in October), including the code name (Quantal Quetzal — no, really) and a theme update. He said, 'That will kick off with a project on typography to make sure we are expressing ourselves with crystal clarity – making the most of Ubuntu’s Light and Medium font weights for a start. And a project on iconography, with the University of Reading, to refine the look of apps and interfaces throughout the platform. It’s amazing how quaint the early releases of Ubuntu look compared to the current style. And we’re only just getting started! In our artistic explorations we want to embrace tessellation as an expression of the part-digital, part-organic nature of Ubuntu.' Some other more meaningful announcements include a focus on the cloud in the server version and the lack of a transition from Upstart to systemd."

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sounds like a dumb update (1)

laserdog (2500192) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789189)

id rather get half life 3 instead

"Quaint" (5, Insightful)

lostmongoose (1094523) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789199)

What he calls 'quaint' I call 'usable.'

Re:"Quaint" (4, Interesting)

MurukeshM (1901690) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789293)

I think he's referring to the artwork there. And I must agree. Some icons look a lot better now, and programs like update manager look a lot better, and cleaner. The current LightDM login screen is way cooler than the old GDM one. Though I can't make head or tail of the Software Centre's icon ,not at the size I usually see it (looks like a shopping bag or something?).

Meh, Software Center (4, Informative)

Artifex (18308) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789391)

I dumped that for Synaptic Package Manager as soon as I could.
Don't need to be loading lots of graphics and junk on my lightweight netbook when I'm just trying to manage packages through a menu.

Re:Meh, Software Center (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789505)

How did you do that? I may actually do it since their thing seems to be very slow.

Re:Meh, Software Center (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789891)

Does sudo apt-get install synaptic work?

Re:Meh, Software Center (4, Funny)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790031)

You can also install it through the software manager.

Re:Meh, Software Center (5, Informative)

thelamecamel (561865) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790217)

The software centre took forever to load in 11.10, but is waaaaay faster in 12.04. It's actually usable now and I prefer it to Synaptic for my simple needs because the installations are handled by a daemon: you can start something installing, queue up a bunch more installations, close the GUI, and it will keep downloading/installing everything in the background.

Shopping bag means an app store nowadays (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789859)

If it looks like a shopping bag, that's exactly what it's supposed to resemble. The icons for Google Play Store (formerly Android Market) and AppsLib also look like shopping bags.

Re:"Quaint" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789411)

MY biggest gripe with the ubuntu naming shenanigans is with Oneiric Ocelot. imo it wouda sounded much better with Opulent Octopus

Finally (1)

mikeken (907710) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789201)

If they spend more time on the appearance, maybe I will actually enjoy Unity.

Re:Finally (5, Interesting)

LurkerXXX (667952) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789283)

Maybe if you have a tablet. It's a HUGE waste of space, extra mouse travel, and generally crappage on a desktop wiht a large monitor. I'm slowly moving all the machines I use to Linux Mint. Still Debian based, but with a sane interface for a desktop with a 24" monitor.

Ubuntu + MATE (2)

SteveFoerster (136027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789369)

I don't like Unity either, but my plan for 12.04 is to keep Ubuntu, with which I'm otherwise still satisfied, and install MATE. There's no reason to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Re:Ubuntu + MATE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789771)

fvwm2 4ever!

Re:Ubuntu + MATE (2)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790131)

save yourself the time and just install xubuntu (XFCE)

Re:Finally (1)

Artifex (18308) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789419)

Does Linux Mint support installing to encrypted LVM, like the alt-ISO for Ubuntu does?
If it does, I'll give it a try.

Re:Finally (1)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789747)

I can understand the thing about mouse travel (though it's in fact extremely keyboard compatible), and I also can understand other complaints people have. But waste of space, and a huge one? How so, when nearly all UI elements disappear when not used? (In 12.04, that is a user setting for the launcher, though)

Re:Finally (5, Interesting)

mirix (1649853) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790243)

Still Debian based

I don't really understand this line of thought. People use Ubuntu, dislike it, then move to (K|X)buntu or Mint... What's wrong with plain old Debian?

I must be missing something.

oops (4, Insightful)

mirix (1649853) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790283)

Also, what is the point of the separate x-buntus?
Why not just apt-get install $other_window_manager, if that is what you want? Why is it a different distro?

Re:oops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39790487)

They kinda skin the DM to be Ubuntu-y.

Re:oops (2)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790559)

drop in and go with what you want from the start instead of fiddling around, I used to be one of those who LOVED playing with linux, but now I am old and grouchy I just want to drop in a disk, have more or less what I want and move on

+ its a download, see above

Re:Finally (5, Insightful)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790545)

for me its the install process, the others its 1 disc and its like 90% of what I need already there in record time, debian wants to reach out for every single thing and when you have a shit internet (like I have 1Mbs) just getting a base system installed with a command prompt can turn into a couple hours

I would rather use debian, I am rather fond of it ... though I would rather just get an os on the machine and go about whatever it was I wanted to do

Re:Finally (5, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789339)

My problem with Unity isn't appearance (it's very pretty and slick looking), it's functionality.

In particular I'd like to single out the scroll bars as an abomination. I'm running Ubuntu Classic and I still can't get away from these fuckers. Not having the scroll bar appear unless I mouse over the little rectangle that appears to the left of where the scroll bar marker would be is god-awful. That the little rectangle appears inside the application window and thus can be obscured by, say, a same-colored selection rectangle (as happens in the file viewer, geeqie image viewer, and plenty of other apps) means I basically have to fucking *guess* where the scroll bar should be.

Is there an obvious "make scroll bars not retarded" option I'm missing? Is this shit supposed to be good on a tablet? Am I supposed to be glad that my desktop has a tablet interface?

I'm actually scared of upgrading my friend's desktop to a newer version of Ubuntu. He's computer illiterate and has been using Ubuntu more-or-less fine for several years now, but I know him and while I can tolerate even the most bone-headed of interface (I used old versions of Mentor Graphics for example) this shit is going to drive him insane and he'll stop using it.

Re:Finally (0)

mikeken (907710) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789407)

Just an FYI, here is a link to remove the nasty default scrollbar in Ubuntu. It's one of the first things I do on a new install.

Re:Finally (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789445)

Thanks! Worked like a charm!

Re:Finally (1)

pablomme (1270790) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789461)

Is there an obvious "make scroll bars not retarded" option I'm missing?

If only there was a tool to, like, search for stuff [lmgtfy.com] ...

Re:Finally (3, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789791)

Every time I go to google a way to fix the problems with Unity, I end up googling for other debian-based distros instead. Seems like the best way to fix all the issues in one fell swoop.

Searching when you don't know the name (2)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789923)

You happened to know those were called "overlay scrollbars". Not everybody does. How should one use a search engine without knowing the name of what one is looking for?

Re:Finally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789487)

Not having the scroll bar appear unless I mouse over the little rectangle that appears to the left of where the scroll bar marker would be is god-awful.

The scrollbars in 12.04 also appear if you mouse over the right. The usability has been much improved from 11.10, though I must admit I never had much of a problem using them in the first place.

Re:Finally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789601)

Does normal seeking in the scrollbar work again (middle-click) ?
Whose retard disabled seeking in a bar designed essentially to seek ?!

Re:Finally (4, Funny)

pablomme (1270790) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789635)

Does normal seeking in the scrollbar work again (middle-click) ?

It indeed does.

Whose retard disabled seeking in a bar designed essentially to seek ?!

I don't know who the owner of the retard in question is, sorry.

Re:Finally (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789587)

My problem with Unity isn't appearance (it's very pretty and slick looking), it's functionality.

In particular I'd like to single out the scroll bars as an abomination. I'm running Ubuntu Classic and I still can't get away from these fuckers. Not having the scroll bar appear unless I mouse over the little rectangle that appears to the left of where the scroll bar marker would be is god-awful. That the little rectangle appears inside the application window and thus can be obscured by, say, a same-colored selection rectangle (as happens in the file viewer, geeqie image viewer, and plenty of other apps) means I basically have to fucking *guess* where the scroll bar should be.

Is there an obvious "make scroll bars not retarded" option I'm missing? Is this shit supposed to be good on a tablet? Am I supposed to be glad that my desktop has a tablet interface?

I'm actually scared of upgrading my friend's desktop to a newer version of Ubuntu. He's computer illiterate and has been using Ubuntu more-or-less fine for several years now, but I know him and while I can tolerate even the most bone-headed of interface (I used old versions of Mentor Graphics for example) this shit is going to drive him insane and he'll stop using it.

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Re:Finally (2)

Svartormr (692822) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789593)

I'm a Debian user but have installed Ubuntu in a previous workplace. I recently talked to a friend who runs IT for a small company. He's moved from Ubuntu to Linux Mint over the GNOME 3 and Unity interface changes. (I personally am using GNOME 3 in legacy mode with a few changes to avoid the changes.)

Re:Finally (4, Informative)

steveha (103154) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789843)

I'm actually scared of upgrading my friend's desktop to a newer version of Ubuntu. He's computer illiterate and has been using Ubuntu more-or-less fine for several years now, but I know him and while I can tolerate even the most bone-headed of interface (I used old versions of Mentor Graphics for example) this shit is going to drive him insane and he'll stop using it.

I have been using an Ubuntu 11.10 computer with MATE installed, and I am happy with it. I have removed all the overlay-scrollbar packages and the result is a nice usable GNOME 2.x desktop.

http://mate-desktop.org/ [mate-desktop.org]

Long-term, the future is probably Cinnamon, which is built on top of the new GNOME 3.x libraries but aims to duplicate the desktop features of GNOME 2.x.

http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ [linuxmint.com]

steveha

Re:Finally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789935)

`I'm actually scared of upgrading my friend's desktop to a newer version of Ubuntu. He's computer illiterate and has been using Ubuntu more-or-less fine for several years now'

Give Lubuntu [lubuntu.net] a try ...

First (0)

ripdajacker (1167101) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789205)

The code names are just priceless

Re:First (3, Funny)

hondo77 (324058) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789243)

If by "priceless" you mean "gay", yes.

Re:First (4, Funny)

SteveFoerster (136027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789385)

No, that would be Queer Quetzal.

Forgot obligatory disclaimer (4, Funny)

SteveFoerster (136027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789395)

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Re:First (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789393)

And is there anything wrong with the code names being happy?

Re:First (1)

Artifex (18308) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789431)

If by "priceless" you mean "gay", yes.

You think they're fabulous?

Re:First (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39790121)

how original

Re:First (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789253)

Actually I find them to be really stupid.

  Hey, you voiced your opinion, I can voice mine (just didn't feel like logging in)!

Re:First (1)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789777)

Actually I find them to be really stupid.

They are fantastic for google efficiency.

Re:First (1)

Bucky24 (1943328) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790025)

They are fantastic for google efficiency.

Eh. To be honest I usually just google the version number. I can't remember the code names (And I damn sure won't be able to remember this one).

Re:First (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790135)

Indeed. I hate the damn code-names.

"Hurr! This guide is for Remissive Rat!" - so what the fuck version are you talking about?

Re:First (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789345)

The code names are just priceless

I'm eagerly awaiting zaftig zebu.

Re:First (2)

sco08y (615665) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789399)

The code names are just priceless

They certainly aren't clever, endearing, appealing, interesting, useful, memorable, straightforward, likable, notable, distinctive, marketable or easy to spell.

About the only redeeming quality they have is that they bring up that version in a search engine, so they aren't entirely useless, but again, you have to get the spelling right. It's actually frustrating reading it over the phone.

Open Source has always struggled with naming things in ways that aren't patently terrible, like the whole tradition of Something's Not Something Else.

But I think Ubuntu has managed to set the bar even lower.

How do you pronounce it? (1)

atomicxblue (1077017) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790297)

I'd prefer names that I can easily pronounce while drunk. :p

Re:How do you pronounce it? (1)

sco08y (615665) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790569)

I'd prefer names that I can easily pronounce while drunk. :p

I prefer names that I can communicate to people with a high school education or less, or who speak English as a second language. You know, like, most users.

oblig. Red v Blue (5, Funny)

History's Coming To (1059484) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789213)

Didn't I tell you to quit making up animals?

Completely irrelevent to me (0, Offtopic)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789313)

Ubuntu 10.04.2 inherited a GTK problem which has persisted through every release since; it's in the Debian code base as well.

Some random time after logging in to a Gnome session, mouse clicks get lost (usually within 30 seconds to 5 minutes of login.) Not just clicks on menus or windows, but all mouse clicks. KDE, however, works fine. So do the lesser known non-GTK desktops that I've played with.

Unfortunately, the bug surfaces almost immediately in GTK-based installers such as provided by Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Debian. Which means that even getting an install done requires that you use the text mode installer (which is muy painful.)

At this point the only installation I've found that I can use is Fedora's KDE edition.

On the bright side, it's another year before 10.04.1 drops from the support list and I have to upgrade.

The problem occurs on an ASUS P5QL Pro mobo, my friend's Acer laptop with trackpad, and a buddy's HP laptop with trackpad.

Doesn't anyone test any more?

(And no, despite years of C/C++ programming, I have absolutely no interest in finding and fixing the problem myself. I have other work to do. I'm content with the simple "workaround" of dropping Ubuntu and GTK based systems, particularly as I hate Gnome 3 with a passion.)

Re:Completely irrelevent to me (1)

dirtyhippie (259852) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789485)

Some random time after logging in to a Gnome session, mouse clicks get lost (usually within 30 seconds to 5 minutes of login.) Not just clicks on menus or windows, but all mouse clicks. KDE, however, works fine. So do the lesser known non-GTK desktops that I've played with.

[[citaiton needed]]

I have my problems with Gnome, but I've never experienced this bug.

Much more likely, you have some sort of hardware problem that happens to manifest itself with gnome but not KDE.

Sounds a lot less dramatic that way.

Re:Completely irrelevent to me (1)

pablomme (1270790) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789599)

Doesn't anyone test any more?

Having installed Ubuntu 10.04-12.04 on about 10 different machines I've never seen the problem you mention.

And no, despite years of C/C++ programming, I have absolutely no interest in finding and fixing the problem myself.

You could report a bug though, which would likely get fixed by the time you say you'll upgrade from 10.04.

Re:Completely irrelevent to me (2)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790157)

That said, they've done stupid shit before.

Once upon a time, they made a change to shave off about 1 second from boot time. The cost? USB keyboards only! No AT or PS2 for you! ... that really pissed me off, and that's when I departed from using Ubuntu. (note, this was a few years back)

Re:Completely irrelevent to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789713)

never encountered this problem
never heard of this problem

maybe you should take ur ubuntu install back to the point of sale and demand a refund

Re:Completely irrelevent to me (1)

Randle_Revar (229304) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790033)

>GTK-based installers such as
>have to upgrade

Why the hell are you "upgrading" Debian-based distros with an installer?

Re:Completely irrelevent to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39790109)

Something is wrong with your hardware, dumbass

Shiat, go back to Windows, idiot

What? (3, Funny)

identity0 (77976) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789315)

>part-digital, part-organic nature of Ubuntu.'

Don't tell me they're going to make my desktop start smelling brown, too....

I actually like the fact that Ubuntu is very organized and providing a direction for Linux desktops, but their UI choices have been idiosyncratic, to say the least.

But, I like Fedora.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789319)


 

Quite different... (5, Funny)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789331)

They've released a few screenshots [digitaltrends.com] demonstrating the cleaner, lighter typeface [gawkerassets.com] and refined iconography. [imgur.com]

Re:Quite different... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789361)

Oh that is plug-ugly. That decides it, I'm moving to mint.

Re:Quite different... (0)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789479)

Those are Windows 8 screenshots. GP is trolling.

Re:Quite different... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789517)

whoosh!

Re:Quite different... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789701)

That's not the sound a non-obvious fucking shitty joke makes.

Re:Quite different... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789537)

At least that's still nowhere near as hideous as Windows 8 will be. Can you imagine if Microsoft designed the whole UI like that? People would flock to Mac/Linux in droves! At least they have the sensibility to not do something dumb like relegate the traditional desktop to app status and make that the new default...right?

Windows 8 desktop vs. GNOME fallback (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789991)

At least [a screenshot of Windows 8's Metro-style start panel] still nowhere near as hideous as Windows 8 will be. Can you imagine if Microsoft designed the whole UI like that?

At least Microsoft still leaves the old UI installed by default and fully supported. A press of the super key toggles between the traditional Windows 7-style desktop and the new metrosexual start panel. (That's more than "app status" to me.) To match that, Canonical would actually have to put some effort into making a usable GNOME fallback, such as by adopting GNOME 2-based MATE or GNOME 3-based Cinnamon.

People would flock to Mac/Linux in droves!

Yes, if Microsoft were to force all applications to run as Metro-style applications in the start panel, plenty of users would plan for migration. Microsoft understands this and keeps the familiar desktop and its associated Win32 API fully supported.

The next year's release... (3, Insightful)

troff (529250) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789387)

... should be called "Somersaulting Shark"?

Re:The next year's release... (1)

treeves (963993) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789753)

That's the version after the next. The next should be Regressive Rodent.

Re:The next year's release... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39790339)

Unlikely. People have actually heard of both of those words. My guess it'll be something like Refnariius Rubugliouiaoie

Re:The next year's release... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789823)

Somersaulting Shark

Aren't you forgetting a letter?

Re:The next year's release... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789857)

The one after somersaulting shark should be tainted tiger

Re:The next year's release... (2)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789979)

I think they should focus on bringing it onto all platforms, from ipads to the nintendo wii. They should call it "Slutty Squirrel."

Re:The next year's release... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39790455)

Not even the the old, overused Masturbating Monkey stings as hard as that one.

I can't wait (2)

skipkent (1510) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789449)

I can't wait for the release of Ubuntu Varicose Veins

I stopped installing stupidly named software (1)

NemoinSpace (1118137) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789561)

Not because I don't think it's cool and all that. I just tend to forget what half these otherwise useful programs are for after awhile.
Libre Office is hanging on by a thread though.

Re:I stopped installing stupidly named software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789861)

Because 12.10 is a stupid name?

Seriously folks, it's an internal code name just like Fox body for the old Ford Mustangs. It's not _the_ name, get over it.

Re:I stopped installing stupidly named software (1)

NemoinSpace (1118137) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789999)

No, because Ubuntu, Quantal, and Quetzal are stupid names (among others). I am over it, I already stated I don't install this crap anymore.
BTW I used to have a '65 Stang, and I always thought the later "Fox body" moniker was a bit goofy itself. -p.s not that seriously. - relax.

Re:I stopped installing stupidly named software (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790171)

Right, because they totally don't use the "internal" code name on, well, everything.

unity... (-1, Redundant)

crutchy (1949900) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789597)

...looks like something a dog shit out after eating its own shit

i'll stick with squeeze/gnome2

Re:unity... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39790077)

you don't like it. right?

Re:unity... (4, Insightful)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790189)

Indeed. I wish they would stop "fixing" what isn't broken. Even KDE is pushing it lately, for me.

I don't think this is a poison specific to Ubuntu or GNOME, it seems to be everywhere.

What am I supposed to do? Stop updating? Pretend it's still the last decade?

It's like everyone's trying to become the Next Big Thing as far as interfaces go, but the hardware is lagging seriously behind (eg, this stuff would be awesome on holographic tablets a-la science fiction games).

Re:unity... (1)

basecastula (2556196) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790261)

i think there is a tint2 script for that.

Re:unity... (1)

crutchy (1949900) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790447)

...and then there was bash

Damnit I lost the pool! (1)

Virtucon (127420) | more than 2 years ago | (#39789807)

I had "Probing Penis"

Taken (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790013)

Hairy Hard-on [ubuntu.com] is so four years ago.

Re:Taken (1)

Virtucon (127420) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790263)

Pungent Pussy?
Rancid Raccoon?
Subdued Snake?
Angry Ant?
Zealous Zebra?
Choking Chimpanzee?
Broken Baboon?
Crazy Cow? (in honor of the Mad Cow story)
Titillating Tit-Mouse?

Rambunctious Reindeer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39789917)

> In a blog post, Mark Shuttleworth announced some changes for Ubuntu 12.10 (due in October), including the code name (Quantal Quetzal — no, really)

No, really? Another stupid codename? You can knock me over with a feather right now!

glad I wandered away (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790123)

gee willikers your top priorities on an operating system is a theme, icons and fonts! Good thing its open source so that everyone will get a glimpse of the brilliance it takes to make an OS that is perfect in any situation, so you have all this time to piss away making a theme that 90% of the people will change instantly!

Advice: Overuse of the Red Channel in Colors (4, Interesting)

monoqlith (610041) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790129)

Red is the color of alarm, of fear. It is abrasive to the eyes and to our visual processing system and is often used to signify errors for these reasons.

I know it seems unoriginal but Ubuntu needs to move over to a blue/green color palette. Mac OS X and Windows screens heavily utilize blue for this reason. It is psychologically soothing. It makes you feel like you're awash in the operating system as opposed to standing apart from it. I think if Ubuntu switches over to bluish colors we'll see a sharp increase in adoption.

Re:Advice: Overuse of the Red Channel in Colors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39790371)

> Red is the color of alarm, of fear. It is abrasive to the eyes and to our visual processing system and is often used to signify errors for these reasons.

And if you're chinese, it's the color of warmth, of cheer, of positivity, and you avoid putting error messages in red. You fail at psychology.

Re:Advice: Overuse of the Red Channel in Colors (1)

monoqlith (610041) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790535)

Ok, so make the Chinese version of Ubuntu red. Most American desktop operating systems use blue because Americans tend to find blue soothing. Facebook is in blue for a reason. (OR rather, Facebook stayed blue for a reason.) I'm not advocating American centrism, just locality based color decisions.

  If I was culturally raised to find red warm, cheerful, and positive then I would find it that way. So I'm not saying this is innate. There's just what some of us do, versus others do. I personally find red abrasive to look at, which is why I tend to use themes that utilize blue/

Re:Advice: Overuse of the Red Channel in Colors (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39790539)

Not quite that simple. You would never write somebody's name in red, it would signify their coming death. I haven't done a survey but I use Chinese software quite often & red is used about the same way it is in Western software (including error messages).

Re:Advice: Overuse of the Red Channel in Colors (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790449)

its better than baby vomit and brown, or tarnished silver, purple, and charcoal, but yea, if theres one thing Ubuntu does perfectly, its make a fugly theme

Re:Advice: Overuse of the Red Channel in Colors (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790485)

Yeah in the UI of the ATC system I work on red is only used for emergencies, nothing else. The actual colors are very subdued, even when red it used, but it stands out when it is used.

Until UNITY is useable - who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39790145)

Im a LONG term Ubuntu user and Ive moved across to Linux mint because UNITY is just not useable for a power user.
  Its slow (even on a HIGH end, large RAM quad core machine) and buggy then trying to USE it is just annoying and I have had three honest attempts to adapt to it....
        For the pretty graphics and typography - .. they need to make it useable ! talk about not seeing the flood for the raindrops

What's up with the writing style, Mark? (3, Insightful)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#39790491)

It reads like a press release for a product from some multi-billion dollar company; not a Linux distro. You can almost play bullshit bingo with that.

"Upstart knows everything it wants to be, the competition wants to be everything. Quality comes from focus and clarity of purpose, it comes from careful design and rigorous practices. .. For our future on cloud and client, Upstart is crisp, clean and correct."

"So there’s an opportunity to refresh the look. That will kick off with a project on typography to make sure we are expressing ourselves with crystal clarity – making the most of Ubuntu’s Light and Medium font weights for a start. And a project on iconography, with the University of Reading, to refine the look of apps and interfaces throughout the platform."

"In our artistic explorations we want to embrace tessellation as an expression of the part-digital, part-organic nature of Ubuntu. We love the way tessellated art expresses both the precision and reliability of our foundations, and the freedom and collaboration of a project driven by people making stuff for people. There’s nothing quixotic in our desire to make Ubuntu the easiest, steadiest, and most beautiful way to live digitally."

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