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Is Siri Smarter Than Google?

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the top-of-the-class dept.

Google 366

storagedude writes "Google could go the way of the dodo if ultra intelligent electronic agents (UIEA) make their way into the mainstream, according to technology prognosticator Daniel Burrus. Siri is just the first example of how a UIEA could end search as we know it. By leveraging the cloud and supercomputing capabilities, Siri uses natural language search to circumvent the entire Google process. If Burrus is right, we'll no longer have to wade through '30,000,000 returns in .0013 milliseconds' of irrelevant search results."

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Is she? (5, Interesting)

tomcode (261182) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801649)

Whenever I ask Siri a question, she always refers me to a google search.

Simple answer: no (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801687)

This is a non-story. Next.

Re:Is she? (5, Insightful)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801791)

Or a Yahoo search, whatever your settings may be.

It seems like the real question is, "Will searching the Internet become less useful in the future, when people have small personal chochkies that know all of their personal preferences, their habits, location and can give them exactly what they want, instead of 400 things that might be, interspersed with dozens of ads."

Even though Siri needs a search engine to work, it basically commoditizes Google/Yahoo/Bing-type services. I suspect this is why Goog's happy to expend astounding amounts of energy and money to keep Android on phones.

Re:Is she? (5, Insightful)

LoudMusic (199347) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801877)

"Will searching the Internet become less useful in the future, when people have small personal chochkies that know all of their personal preferences, their habits, location and can give them exactly what they want, instead of 400 things that might be, interspersed with dozens of ads."

If you use Google Search while logged in with a Google account they're doing the same thing for you.

The difference between Siri and what this author is referencing as "Google" is query entry by voice or query entry by keyboard.

*** News flash, you can enter your query in Google Search with your voice as well. ***

Re:Is she? (2)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801917)

It doesn't really have anything to do with the voice entry, that's sort of a red herring. The real issue is wether mobile device makers will be able to use the fact that they live in their customers pockets to give themselves an upper hand over search engines and Big Data.

Re:Is she? (4, Insightful)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802321)

The real issue is wether mobile device makers will be able to use the fact that they live in their customers pockets to give themselves an upper hand over search engines and Big Data.

Where do the mobile device makers go to get their information?

Re:Is she? (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802007)

On the other hand, when I want a restaurant review, I want Yelp or something like Yelp. And when I ask Siri for restaurants, it gives me Yelp reviews. Google for some reason doesn't do this, and the results it does give for these kinds of searches are usually very disorganized and uncurated. I don't care if Siri is hardcoded to go to Yelp, it simply does the right thing and wins, while Google searches spit out a lot of stuff that's useful and a lot of stuff that isn't.

This is probably symptomatic of Google's monomaniacal framing of algorithms to provide all of their intelligence, instead of, you know, humans, and their deep corporate cultural bias [scifihifi.com] against human decisionmaking in general.

Re:Is she? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802323)

I don't care if Siri is hardcoded to go to Yelp

So what about when Yelp starts sucking and/or charging? Your Siri isn't going to be much use then.

BTW, "siri" means ass (literally "buttocks") in Japanese.

Re:Is she? (5, Funny)

rampant mac (561036) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802103)

"*** News flash, you can enter your query in Google Search with your voice as well. ***

I just tried this, trying louder and louder each time. My neighbors just called the cops. Can someone else PLEASE google "Did Hitler love anal sex" for me??

PS - I don't have a microphone.

Re:Is she? (2)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802311)

PS - I don't have a microphone.

Where were you planning on putting it?

Re:Is she? (5, Insightful)

griffjon (14945) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802293)

Alternatively, it's been approximately a decade since I went past the first page of google results. Siri basically gives you the same result as "I'm feeling lucky," but we don't actually want google.com to hide all of the second-run results.

Re:Is she? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801961)

Well Google needs a slap in the mouth by something. They have persisted in refusing to remove toxic websites that are nothing but copies of other websites, have gamed google to get higher ranking, etc.

Look for an electronics datasheet and you'll see thousands of these shills. There are other search terms that are equally crap.

I use DDG or a couple others now, Siri can be good or crap depending.

Voice recognition (5, Interesting)

GeneralTurgidson (2464452) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801651)

This assumes voice recognition becomes leaps and bounds better than it is right now. I've cursed at Siri more than I've asked it questions. Maybe it's my Midwest accent.

Re:Voice recognition (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801735)

Plus Siri can't work without content. So if everyone is using Siri, why would people create textual content if all ad revenue is circumvented by Siri.

Re:Voice recognition (4, Interesting)

gutnor (872759) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802193)

why would people create textual content if all ad revenue is circumvented by Siri.

Back in 2000, when the default business model was to create content and package it either in a box (like for encyclopedia, ...) or stick it behind a paywall. People would have asked the question: "why would people create content if you can find for free on the internet".

Today we know, and tomorrow there will be other business models that work with Siri ...

Re:Voice recognition (2)

GodInHell (258915) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801853)

Tey evi with google voice rec. Often suprises me how well it works.

Re:Voice recognition (3, Funny)

JAlexoi (1085785) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802215)

Tey evi with google voice rec. Often suprises me how well it works.

Did you dictate that into Evi?

Hogwash! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801653)

Google is Skynet. Google is forever. Resistance is futile. I am a Droid Borg.

hmmm (5, Insightful)

rainmouse (1784278) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801657)

Can we mark the OP as flamebait?

Re:hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801711)

I want to mark samzenpus as flamebait. Since when did he get posting privileges outside of Idle?

Re:hmmm (4, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801719)

Apple advertising would be closer. The whole idea is completely sill as well, but it makes great advertising for Siri.

Re:hmmm (0)

epine (68316) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801837)

Can we mark the OP as flamebait?

Slashdot is becoming the new Omni.

I personally distinguish irrelevant results from results not worth clicking on, which often provide a valuable zeitgeist. I'm most bugged by irrelevant results when a word has two distinct meanings, and I end up with a mixed result set.

The other problem is search junk. Just this afternoon I was trying to find out whether whey powder supplementation has any scientific validity if you're in it for reasons other than emulating the porn stars who have increasingly become the role models of sexual fulfillment for young men in the modern age of abundance.

Dear Siri: "Does whey powder supplementation have any scientific validity if you're in it for reasons other than emulating the porn stars who have increasingly become the role models of sexual fulfillment for young men in the modern age of abundance?"

Even with Google, the gentle reader can imagine I gathered more weeds than seeds. Google Scholar netted me one or two papers that weren't complete junk. Pretty much a dead bust. Thorium fuel cycles are a piece of cake (not without controversy) compared to anything nutritional. The internet is a weird place.

Siri to the rescue? Not a question one even dares to contemplate unless one's neuro-protective enzymes are raging.

Re:hmmm (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802031)

No tit's not. It nothing like Omni, not even in the horrible post Bova phase when it was mostly fringe science.

Re:hmmm (1)

macshit (157376) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802069)

To be honest, though, I have a soft spot for any magazine where like 90% of the articles are printed in some kind of weird star-trek typeface on shiny silver paper......

As unreadable as they try to make it, Wired has nothing on Omni!

Re:hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802067)

Can we mark the OP as flamebait?

I totally agree. This is trolling to a higher level.

Tautology at its finest (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801661)

So he's saying that if we perfect assistants to the point where they'll be able to answer our questions directly, we won't have to go look for the answers ourselves?

No shit, Sherlock.

UIEA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801663)

Better than a UFIA

Most of the time, Siri just shows Google results. (3, Interesting)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801667)

At least thats been my experience so far.

Re:Most of the time, Siri just shows Google result (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801833)

In which case the problem isn't overthrowing Google, the problem is helping the layperson generate search queries that get what they want.

Re:Most of the time, Siri just shows Google result (1)

Bahamut_Omega (811064) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801885)

Does this mean in the future we will be working with net navis? Sorry but I couldn't help make a comparison to the Megaman Battle Network / Rockman.exe series. Bad enough if we wind up going into Ryuusei no Rockman/Megaman Star Force level of tech.

Re:Most of the time, Siri just shows Google result (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801895)

Siri, 2+2=4. Provides a result from wolfram alpha. Just tell me 4 on the calc app, no google and no wolfram alpha for all heavens sake.

Re:Most of the time, Siri just shows Google result (5, Interesting)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802077)

Depends on what you ask. But that's a good point.

Siri "circumvents" Google search for certain things. "Find me a seafood restaurant" will go to Yelp, which has reviews and such. "How many grams in an ounce" will go to Wolfram-Alpha. Otherwise, it sticks it in a query and ships it off to Google.

Needless to say, Google isn't sitting still. "Find me a seafood restaurant" in Google will also provide me a list of local restaurants with reviews, much like Yelp does. Arguably, Google's ratings may be better because they are collected from a broad spectrum of sources (user reviews from various review sites, individual bloggers, professional reviews) versus whoever Apple decided to sign a deal with. Speaking of which, you have to consider what kind of deals are being done in the background. Woz recently pointed out something [pcmag.com] I found a bit disturbing:

“I used to ask Siri, ‘What are the five biggest lakes in California?’ and it would come back with the answer. Now it just misses. It gives me real estate listings. I used to ask, ‘What are the prime numbers greater than 87?’ and it would answer. Now instead of getting prime numbers, I get listings for prime rib, or prime real estate.”

So where Siri used to give answers, Siri now gives advertising.

Re:Most of the time, Siri just shows Google result (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802399)

Particularly interesting is that Wolfram Alpha still provides correct results for both of those queries -- so Apple may be trying to reduce or eliminate reliance on answers from that site. That would be unfortunate, since it gives much more reliable answers than search engines for questions about a huge range of factual matters (in my experience, at least).

If you had to wade through 30,000,000 returns... (4, Funny)

bluemonq (812827) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801669)

...on the sort of basic questions Siri's capable of answering, something went horribly wrong with your query.

"Leverage" is a synomym for "use". (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801679)

Yes, when there are two words that mean the same thing, you can leverage either of them in a sentence. But just because you can doesn't mean you should. In the future, can we please leverage "use" when we aren't talking about mechanical advantage or something legitimately analogous?

Giving them a name was the most important step (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801683)

Now we've decided on the name UIEA, the task of actually creating them will be trivial. I've already sold my GOOG stock.

Re:Giving them a name was the most important step (2)

boarder8925 (714555) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802359)

The "task of actually creating them" might become trivial, but pronouncing "UIEA" never will.

Re:Giving them a name was the most important step (1)

boarder8925 (714555) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802375)

The "task of actually creating them" might become trivial, but pronouncing "UIEA" as a word never will.

Fixed that for myself.

Wait a minute (5, Insightful)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801693)

Forget about leveraging the cloud, AI, all of the wonder of Siri that nobody else has (or some portion of myopic Apple users think nobody else has). Asking Siri something and search by typing a field in a bar are both... search. What looks different is that Siri can take advantage of the semantic web and similar things to read the result to you, and come close to actually understanding what it's doing. But text search can have all of that understanding too.

Somewhere behind Siri are search engines, and will remain search engines.

The only thing that's unique about Siri is that the search engine companies can't put their ads in there.

Re:Wait a minute (5, Insightful)

olsmeister (1488789) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801769)

The only thing that's unique about Siri is that the search engine companies can't put their ads in there.

Yet.

Re:Wait a minute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802099)

You deserve a million mod points for that retort.

Re:Wait a minute (2)

genkernel (1761338) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801775)

The only thing that's unique about Siri is that the search engine companies can't put their ads in there.

I can imagine it right now: "Thank you for your question, your answer is sponsered by alienware...avaliable now at your local retailer."

Just you wait.

Re:Wait a minute (5, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801841)

The only thing that's unique about Siri is that the search engine companies can't put their ads in there.

Sure they can, by buying a place at the top of the results. Even worse than a traditional ad since you may not even know you are being 'steered' towards a particular product.

Re:Wait a minute (4, Informative)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802013)

Right. As you and the other two have reminded me, this should have been "The search engine companies can't put their ads in there without paying Apple". And you can imagine that any constraints and regulation that are put on Google will make their way to Apple eventually. Will this protect the users? Absolutely not. Nothing can protect Apple users, because the problem is protecting them from themselves.

Re:Steered (2)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802391)

Sarcastic/Satirical Futuristic Surrealism ahead:

"What car should I buy?"
"You will buy a Ford."
"Will?! I hate those! You know, Found On Road Dead."
"No. You WILL buy a Ford."
"Why?"
"Because you will be arrested for buying anything else."
"What does THAT mean?"
"You are on Main Street, 734 Main or thereabouts within a 100 foot margin, near the Walmart block. Authorities have been alerted that if your credit card shows any other purchase of a motor vehicle other than Ford, you will be deemed a terrorist and treated accordingly. Have a nice day!"

Re:Wait a minute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801947)

The difference is Siri gives you the answer to your question if it can.
Regular search gives you a list of web pages that may or may not have any relevance.

Re:Wait a minute (4, Informative)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802035)

The difference is Siri gives you the answer to your question if it can. Regular search gives you a list of web pages that may or may not have any relevance.

You're not keeping up. Go on google and type "UA 647". You will see the flight status, properly formatted, right at the top. There are a significant number of questions that are answered this way, and it will only increase.

Re:Wait a minute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802087)

UA 647

That's not a question.

A question is.

What is the status of flight 647 on United Airways?

Putting that into google doesn't give me the answer it gives me a list of websites that may or may not be relevant [google.com] .

Re:Wait a minute (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802145)

"How is the weather in Moscow?" is a question, though.

Re:Wait a minute (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802197)

That's correct but Siri goes a step further. After you ask,

What is the status of flight 647 on United Airways?

Siri can use that as the context for you next question.

What about 544?

If you put that into google if won't be able to give you a result because it has no context to understand what 544 means.

Re:Wait a minute (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802437)

Of course, asking Siri, "What is the status of flight 647 on United Airlines" returns a reply, "I can't help you with flights. Sorry!" followed by a little button that says, "Search the web."

I can see the bumper sticker now... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801695)

My German Shepherd is smarter than your Siri.

Re:I can see the bumper sticker now... (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801817)

My German Shepherd is smarter than your Siri.

I was waiting for this one.
Didn't take long either.
Now who owns the copyright on it?

Technology Prognosticator (4, Insightful)

tool462 (677306) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801699)

You mean "bullshit artist" right?

Supercomputer? (1)

igor.sfiligoi (1517549) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801701)

> By leveraging the cloud and supercomputing capabilities, Siri uses...

And what do you think Google does?
They have just as much, if not more computing behind them.

It is just the interface that has really changed.

a search engine that gives results is what I want (4, Interesting)

k6mfw (1182893) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801727)

I don't follow much of the esoteric details (and don't give a yayhoo about speed) but when I enter a term in a search engine, i.e. "RF video combiners," I'd like some return of technical documents and (what would be really nice) individual techies with their own webpage showing how to implement and what pitfalls to avoid. Instead I get a bunch of sales/marketing aggregates, tech discussions that are really disguised sales/marketing crap, ebay listings, go-get-bids, sorority-sluts, etc.

Re:a search engine that gives results is what I wa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801781)

noob

Re:a search engine that gives results is what I wa (1)

belthize (990217) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801935)

Agreed, somewhat.

Google has fairly simplistic regex rules to speed the process. I'd happily pay Google $5, $10 or more a month if I could generate a search with complicated regex and weightings. The fee goes to hosting separate servers that specialize in providing truly useful returns in minutes rather than a ream of butt useless ones in a fraction of a second.

Re:a search engine that gives results is what I wa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802053)

Google used to return the desired results many years ago, but now they're making vast sums from all these placed ad sites instead of serving quality, they'll only be getting worse. They don't even honor all search terms any more, often serving up utterly useless crap that doesn't even mention key keywords.

Re:a search engine that gives results is what I wa (1)

belthize (990217) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802101)

Sort of true, I do find myself increasingly annoyed that the terms that are implied to be found increasingly bear no resemblance to the target page but even at its best Google required fairly exact strings. Looking for XXYYZZ234 model number is fine. Looking for more complex strings from stack traces (for bug tracking), formulas or odd context from technical papers has always been clumsy.

Re:a search engine that gives results is what I wa (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802157)

Try the Verbatim option in "More search tools".

Re:a search engine that gives results is what I wa (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802275)

I fucking search for 'workers unite fist' because I wanted to know what the fucking commie symbol means and the Google commie fucking search engine includes the fucking word 'first' like I'm so fucking stupid I don't know how to fucking type, so the results have dog shit to do with the fucking search. You fucking know what, Google? How about searching instead for the fucking thing I typed in.

GIGO? (5, Insightful)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801731)

If Burrus is right, we'll no longer have to wade through '30,000,000 returns in .0013 milliseconds' of irrelevant search results.

Hmm... If that's your experience, then your search query is way off. Learn to ask better questions. Siri won't help if you're an idiot.

Is it just me (2, Interesting)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801743)

or has Google's search gotten crappier lately?

I was trying to find a purchase or at least pre-order page for a specific laptop model. Top search result on Google was an Amazon link - an Amazon search page for that exact model, showing 0 results followed by the regular "you may also be interested in" links (most of which weren't even tangentially related to what I was looking for).

That's not all - get this. Google noted that it was recommending this because I had already visited the page

Really, Google? Really? You track my every move, scour the entire Internet for information, and then you use it to give me a result that is not only wrong, but that you know I've already found (and found useless)? Really?

I mean, come on, Google. "Turning to the Dark Side" is supposed to at least make you more effective (bad guys always win for at least the first three acts), not make you worse.

Re:Is it just me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801797)

You would think people reading /. would know how to use a search engine. no sympathy here.

Re:Is it just me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801873)

Wtf?! Your story reeks of bullshit just like OP

Re:Is it just me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801915)

I've noticed it. I think Google knows it to because it also seems the nature of their results keep changing which makes it difficult to craft successful search terms. Part of the problem I think is pagerank. It's so gamed now that relying on it to rank a website relevant because thousands of zombie sites link to it is a bad process.

Re:Is it just me (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802047)

It's you.

Re:Is it just me (1)

boarder8925 (714555) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802393)

DuckDuckGo [duckduckgo.com] seems to, in general, return better results than Google has for me for awhile now. To me it feels like using Google in the early 2000s, actually, clean and generally bullshit-free.

Confused (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801761)

This guy seems to have confused Siri with IBM's Watson.

I've Heard Complaints (4, Interesting)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801767)

I've heard complaints that Suri is getting dumber over time. That for some people it used to return the results that they wanted, but now that it is building up its database of what (I'm guessing) a majority of people mean when they ask a question, that at least a minority of users no longer get the results they used to receive for the same query. If Suri gets overwhelmed by queries that can be considered in pop-culture terms to mean something other than their strict meanings, she could quickly become both useless and frustrating.

Re:I've Heard Complaints (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801875)

Of course she's getting dumber: she's learning from her masters, the Adderall-popping Kardashian-worshipping teeny boppers.

Siri is a gimmick, and idiots love gimmicks. Did you really expect it to be a valuable tool for the intellectual elite ?

Siri Simulation (3, Insightful)

khellendros1984 (792761) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801773)

Siri's really just a slick interface to Google's "I'm feeling lucky" button, with pre-processing done prior to performing an actual search. Google pops up a map if it looks like you're talking about a location; it provides a definition if you ask for one, etc etc. Google already contains a lot of the AI-like characteristics shown by Siri.

Obama ate a dog. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801779)

Obama ate a dog.

Obligatory Betteridge's Law Reference... (5, Insightful)

Almonday (564768) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801795)

No. [wikipedia.org]

Yeah but? (4, Informative)

BradyB (52090) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801801)

Didn't even Wozniak say that Siri isn't as good as the advertisements?

Steve quoted on various news sites:

I have a lower success rate with Siri than I do with the voice built into the Android, and that bothers me. I’ll be saying, over and over again in my car, ‘Call the Lark Creek Steak House,’ and I can’t get it done. Then I pick up my Android, say the same thing, and it’s done. [...] On the 4S I can only do that when Siri can connect over the Internet. But many times it can’t connect. I’ve never had Android come back and say, ‘I can’t connect over the Internet. [...] Plus I get navigation. Android is way ahead on that.

What a narrow view of how search is used. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801803)

This is assuming that there is a single correct answer to whatever search terms you're putting into Google. Troll article is trolling.

We get it, Apple is better than everything yeah... (-1, Troll)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801805)

Give me a fucking break. Siri is slow, and fucking primitive. Lets stop sucking the Apple cock for a second and use our brains...

Star Trek really brought this idea to everyone's attention via "the ships computer". Ask it questions, it answers. Its not a new idea. Its an old idea, and of course as computers become more capable, we will head in that direction. That has always been the goal. Google is a tool, Siri is a toy.

We will get there... meanwhile insert Apple's cock back in your mouth and suck... suck it like its the only thing you know.

Re:We get it, Apple is better than everything yeah (1)

stevenfuzz (2510476) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801981)

1. why are you a troll? I mean, this entire post was flaimbait in the first place. So either I agree with the post or I am modded as a troll. Lame. 2. I agree +100. 3. Your description of Apple reminds me of "the entity" from south park, and I feel like you are not too far off.

Most Effective Search (4, Funny)

hyades1 (1149581) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801847)

If I want to know something, I just have to ask my ex. She knows everything.

Re:Most Effective Search (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801869)

If I want to know something, I just have to ask my ex. She knows everything.

She knew everything?, eh?. Guess that is why she became the ex.

Re:Most Effective Search (2)

hyades1 (1149581) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801921)

Yeah...she figured out I was doing all the really dirty stuff with your mom.

Re:Most Effective Search (1)

Cute Fuzzy Bunny (2234232) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802179)

Eh, she married him so she doesn't know everything. Or maybe she knew she'd make him miserable and divorce him and she liked that idea.

Re:Most Effective Search (5, Funny)

stevenfuzz (2510476) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801999)

ME: "What time does [movie name] start tonight?"
Siri GFE: "Not until you clean the dishes."

I built a UIEA, and it's "Ultra" nothing... (3, Insightful)

elsurexiste (1758620) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801867)

"Ultra Intelligent Electronic Agent"? What the hell *that* means?

There's nothing "Ultra Intelligent" in this kind of systems. My team built an equivalent to Siri, but oriented to web tasks. Believe me, there was little intelligence behind it. Most of the work is actually learning and relating tasks to sets of actions (this is grunt work and crowdsourcing produces great results at low cost). The conversation part is a no-brainer. If you provide a context, it's an even stupider agent: I trust it with my users and passwords so it can do boring/repetitive tasks I taught it to perform, and I never have to give him any additional context data unless my password has expired. And surprise surprise, there's no supercomputer involved.

These agents will never replace Google because they do different things. I wonder what Burrus was smoking when he wrote TFA...

Re:I built a UIEA, and it's "Ultra" nothing... (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802169)

"Ultra Intelligent Electronic Agent"? What the hell *that* means?

There's nothing "Ultra Intelligent" in this kind of systems

Then... maybe is ultra electronic?

Author doesnt even seem to know what Siri is (2)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801943)

Siri is for the most part a front end on wolfram alpha, another search engine....so basically the author is saying that perhaps one search engine is better than another. Unprecedented I know

Re:Author doesnt even seem to know what Siri is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801993)

Wolfram Alpha isn't a search engine.

Re:Author doesnt even seem to know what Siri is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802045)

Use bing, the Decision Engine! Because you can't decide to use something better...

Re:Author doesnt even seem to know what Siri is (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802443)

Its a search engine, the data structures of what it indexes are different than what google indexes, but that doesnt make it anything but a search engine.

No... no no no (1)

stevenfuzz (2510476) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801951)

Maybe if we could develop an application that uses ESP. It's one thing if the user is asking questions with a static answer. For example: "How far away is Los Angeles" should technically be one result. But, if we ask anything natural or subjective, then it is impossible to get the quality of results that we can get from browsing the first 10 google results. For example: "How good is the new iPad" should, in theory, get a result from siri like "best technological advancement since the printing press", but obviously the question is subjective to the user and that answer is BS. Otherwise, the best answer it can get us is just going to be a list of appropriate answers, also known as search results.

That article author (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39801959)

...apparently does not allow commenting. Once you get one submitted, it's deleted immediately.

And all I did was call him out for being ignorant.

Interface vs Function (4, Insightful)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 2 years ago | (#39801997)

Siri will replace Google in the same way keyboards have replaced computers. Siri is an interface to search, not a replacement for it.

Google can find a fucking mosque (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802109)

nt

Seri cracks me up... (5, Funny)

Malenx (1453851) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802187)

A couple of months back my family and I were having a debate whether falling thirty feet would break your legs or kill you, so we asked Siri. She responded back with a list of buildings we could jump off in our area over thirty feet high.

I'm all for scientific tests... but ouch.

Siri: Voice I/F for Google's I'm Feeling Lucky (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802247)

Not sure there's much else to say about it, really.

Goodbye Siri and Google (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802251)

Wintermute for President 2020!

noise disturbance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802285)

well you can always search google in a noisy room. But is the same possible with siri? Well #OldIsGold :)

Cost of Google vs Siri (1)

mstrcat (517519) | more than 2 years ago | (#39802329)

Cost for me to type a google query: minimal, but for the sake of argument, we'll say I bought a new Kindle Fire from Amazon for $200

Minimum cost for me to ask Siri the same thing: $1900.

So I'm thinking I can put up with typing my questions into google for the difference.

So yeah, feel free to laugh at the people yelling at Siri through their iphone.

Siri... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39802423)

Siri, where can I find torrents for movies?

...{click}...{click}...
Hello, this is Chris Dodd's office... Siri tells us that you were looking for movie torrents?

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