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Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Out; Unity Gets a Second Chance

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the will-reserve-judgment-until-I-try-it dept.

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An anonymous reader writes with this enthusiastic review of the latest from Canonical: "So how does Ubuntu Precise Pangolin (12.04) fare? I will say exceptionally well. Unity is not the same ugly duckling it was made out to be. In Ubuntu 12.04, it has transformed into a beautiful swan. As Ubuntu 12.04 is a long term release, the Ubuntu team has pulled all stops to make sure the user experience is positive. Ubuntu 12.04 aka Precise Pangolin is definitely worthy of running on your machine."

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Thanks! (5, Funny)

busyqth (2566075) | about 2 years ago | (#39808555)

Thanks for the review Mr. Shuttleworth!

ATTN: Switcheurs!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809137)

If you don't know what Cmd-Shift-1 and Cmd-Shift-2 are for, GTFO.
If you think Firefox is a decent Mac application, GTFO.
If you're still looking for the "maximize" button, GTFO.
If the name "Clarus" means nothing to you, GTFO.

Bandwagon jumpers are not welcome among real Mac users. Keep your filthy PC fingers to yourself.

Really? Pangolin? (5, Funny)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 2 years ago | (#39808601)

I am disappointed they didn't opt for Platypus. Way more interesting than an anteater. Can a pangolin lay eggs? I think not. Can a pangolin inject venom through its ankle? I don't think so. Does a pangolin have 6 poorly-understood sex chromosomes? No to that as well.

Pangolin. Puh-leeze. So comparatively boring they might as well have opted for penguin.

Re:Really? Pangolin? (2)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about 2 years ago | (#39808641)

Unity on the other hand has bitten slashdot and injected troll venom. In before the show.

Re:Really? Pangolin? (5, Informative)

interval1066 (668936) | about 2 years ago | (#39809039)

Nah. Not going back. Unity is too painful a recent memory. I'm with Mint now [linuxmint.com] .

Re:Really? Pangolin? (0)

Beardo the Bearded (321478) | about 2 years ago | (#39809101)

I've been using Unity on my netbook for a little more than a year now.

Unity was never my problem with the OS, and I've enjoyed it.

Re:Really? Pangolin? (4, Insightful)

interval1066 (668936) | about 2 years ago | (#39809241)

Unity is a hideous, three headed, monster baby. I can't really describe it in any better terms.

Re:Really? Pangolin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808979)

Is a platypus native to Africa? There's a deeper theme.

Re:Really? Pangolin? (2)

Zocalo (252965) | about 2 years ago | (#39809207)

No, there isn't. At least not that one. I don't think you get many Gibbons, Koalas, Lynx, Narwhals, Ocelots or Quetzals in (or off the coast of) Africa, unless you are visiting a zoo. Ibex are found in limited numbers in Egypt, so that one's OK, but Jackalopes don't even exist and are a North American creation anyway.

Re:Really? Pangolin? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808997)

Can a pangolin lay eggs? I think not. Can a pangolin inject venom through its ankle? I don't think so. Does a pangolin have 6 poorly-understood sex chromosomes? No to that as well.

These are now all features that I MUST HAVE in an operating system.

Re:Really? Pangolin? (5, Funny)

engineer_uhg (880695) | about 2 years ago | (#39809065)

"Platypus" wouldn't communicate that it is full of bugs quite so effectively.

(just kidding - I'm actually a happy Ubuntu user)

Buttons on the wrong side... still. (1)

mjwx (966435) | about 2 years ago | (#39809073)

Close and minimise are still on the wrong side.

I dropped Ubuntu for Linux Mint a while back because of this, despite Linux Mint 12 being a little disapointing this one thing prevents me from going back to Ubuntu.

P.S. I know it can be changed, but it's a pain in the arse and aren't distros like Ubuntu and Linux Mint all about avoiding those little pains in the arse.

Re:Buttons on the wrong side... still. (1, Redundant)

CubicleZombie (2590497) | about 2 years ago | (#39809145)

Funny how slashdotters in general applaud Microsoft for completely throwing out the concept of menus, and then slam Ubuntu for moving the minimize button to the other side of the window. Which IS easily configurable. I don't remember how, because it took like 2 seconds the first time I logged in.

Re:Really? Pangolin? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809113)

It should have been Perry Platypus.

Ripping off OS X again (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808631)

The Unity Dash Quicklist looks exactly like the standard OS X dock menu [rainmakerinc.com] , and the so-called "revolutionary" HUD is nothing more than the help menu search from OS X Leopard circa 2007. [flickr.com]

Re:Ripping off OS X again (5, Insightful)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#39808803)

I was going to take issue with the "revolutionary" phrasing (though the whole sentence is odd), but at the same time, I'm not sure that "ripping off" OS X is such a bad thing. It's a nice feature. I'm never sure why UI improvements (and other aspects of technology) are always an example "damned if you do, damned if you don't": If somebody doesn't copy $FEATURE into their system, they are derided for being outdated; at the same time, if they do add $FEATURE, then they are derided for copying.

That said, the lack of a traditional menu bar might be a source for problems. I prefer the more hybrid approach of OS X.

Walk it back (1, Informative)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | about 2 years ago | (#39809193)

to the beginning. Everyone stole from Xerox PARC, but revisionist fanboism has airbrushed Steve Jobs out from being the first in that line.

Re:Ripping off OS X again (1)

interval1066 (668936) | about 2 years ago | (#39809221)

Fine and fine. Yeah, Apple does good thing in UI. But if gnome (or Fxce for me now) ever adopts that polymorphic single menu monstrosity for all apps style I will literally blow chunks and start using... hell, I'll use LXDE, PWM, anything else.

Pangolin? (0)

cpu6502 (1960974) | about 2 years ago | (#39808635)

What's with all the strange names? I guess they're trying to emulate Apple. I never bother learning the random words and just say OS 10.5 or Ubuntu Linux 10.0

Re:Pangolin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808675)

In all fairness, big cats are way easier to remember than this messed up geekplay. Lion, Snow Leopard, Leopard, Tiger, Panther, Jaguar, Puma, Cheetah...

Re:Pangolin? (4, Informative)

rtaylor (70602) | about 2 years ago | (#39808713)

When doing a web search with that combination you always get Ubuntu advice for that specific version.

Re:Pangolin? (1)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#39808891)

Wouldn't you also get specific advice if you just say 12.04? The naming is just a novelty thing, a way to make it easier to remember than a bunch of numbers--although OS X's names have been more memorable than Ubuntu's, due to a combination of a slower release cycle, shorter names, and more recognizable animals.

Re:Pangolin? (2)

MightyYar (622222) | about 2 years ago | (#39809107)

I don't know why, but Google does much better with named versions. I long ago learned to look for "Tiger" or "Lion" for MacOS advice and the Ubuntu animal-of-the-week when searching for Ubuntu advice. Searching for Windows 7 advice can be troublesome... I've found some success trying "win7" first.

Re:Pangolin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809109)

Ubuntu uses an actual naming scheme which is memorable. I've got a MacBook, but can't for the life of me remember the release name. It might as well be called Top Cat for all I know!

Re:Pangolin? (2)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#39809335)

I can't make sense of Apple's naming scheme beyond it being a "big cat". How a mountain lion is an upgrade to a "vanilla" lion is beyond me, and I'm not sure how a mountain lion is different from a puma or panther (hint: they're not!). But be that as it may, I have to imagine more people are familiar with a lion or tiger or other big cat than they are a pangolin (which I had to look up--spoilers: it's an anteater). A better name would have been Puissant Platypus. People know the platypus.

(Apple fails at hardware revision names, though. My Air is simply called a Macbook Air, even though it's the fourth generation. The new iPad is simply called "iPad". And yet the iPhone has a name, so this lack of hardware naming is inconsistent. Of course, I expect them to remedy this--but in the wrong direction.)

Re:Pangolin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809153)

Problem is, when using numbers it's easy for the search to turn up results from a different release especially when your looking up an error code.

Doesn't work that well (4, Informative)

DrYak (748999) | about 2 years ago | (#39809209)

The version name is sufficiently rare that it will be precisely found.
On the other hand, numbers are frequent.
By typing 12.04, you could get information about Precise Pangoline. But also the chatper 12, section 04 of another documentation. Or a document dating back from 12th april (or december 2004). Or about an lm_sensors' motherboard probe reading 12.04 for the 12v channel, etc.

The keyword "12.04" has much higher probability to end up appearing on pages not related with this Ubuntu version, than random words such as "Zany Zebra".

Re:Pangolin? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808867)

Or Apple is using a naming scheme used by countless others before them, and will be used by countless others after.

I'm not sure how Apple convinces everyone they invented everything, but it's just sad that people fall for it.

Re:Pangolin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809161)

Yes. Because naming your OS an adjective and animal is very much like naming your OS service packs after various kinds of felines.

Too Late! (5, Insightful)

Vanderhoth (1582661) | about 2 years ago | (#39808663)

Sorry, but cramming an unfinished product down my throat and expecting me to deal with a time consuming buggy interface is the kind of thing that turns me off of a product. After all that's kind of the reason I moved from Windows to Linux in the first place.

Re:Too Late! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808699)

You don't like buggy, time-consuming products, yet you switched to Linux?

Re:Too Late! (4, Insightful)

Vanderhoth (1582661) | about 2 years ago | (#39808795)

My laptop had problems from day 1 running Windows Vista and I just couldn't deal with it locking up anymore so I switched. When I first installed Ubuntu it worked, I didn't have to do anything to it. I was quite happy until I clicked the update button and ended up with the Unity thing I had read about. I spent the next three days trying to get Gnome running again before coming across Linux Mint. After which everything just worked again.

Re:Too Late! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808929)


I spent the next three days trying to get Gnome running again before coming across Linux Mint. After which everything just worked again.

Pretty much exactly the same story here. Ubuntu was great for 5 years or so until they decided Unity was the future. I honestly tried it for a few days, and passed. Then they decided Unity was the ONLY way to go. Hacking the shit out of an OS just to get a UI to work wasn't my idea of fun, so I switched to Mint and haven't looked back.

Re:Too Late! (1)

kallisti5 (1321143) | about 2 years ago | (#39808999)

Wow... troll much?

Re:Too Late! (1)

jon_doh2.0 (2097642) | about 2 years ago | (#39809201)

I would say: "Funny 'cuz it's true". And i am an obsessive Linux user. It is time consuming (often because there is just so much you can do) and yes, it is buggy (well many DE and application features are). Personally i learn the most when things go tits-up.

Opinion modding (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809019)

Thanks so much for your thoughts -- I learned SO much!

Yay for opinion modding!

Re:Too Late! (4, Insightful)

Pausanias (681077) | about 2 years ago | (#39809121)

Linux IS a very stable, robust, and I dare say amazingly bug-poor kernel. GNOME/KDE is a different question.

It used to be that windowing systems used to be mostly bug-free on the desktop and it was Windows was the disfunction-infested nightmare.

With Windows 7, Microsoft cleaned up its act, but GNOME/KDE moved in the opposite direction, neglecting the need to fix serious regressions and important bugs that just got passed on from release to release; instead, they used their manpower to get on the warpath towards innovation at all costs.

In 1998, I would have modded you flamebait for the above, but sadly, now I'd say it's true, if you s/Linux/GNOME\/KDE/g.

Re:Too Late! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808763)

Yes, and it's a real shame there are no other desktop environments available on Linux. Since Linux changed to the Unity desktop I have been forced to return to using my Amiga.

Re:Too Late! (2)

hamalnamal (2499998) | about 2 years ago | (#39809049)

Yeah, I've been stuck running Unity on Arch Linux for months now, I don't even know how it got there. One day "POOF", the developers pushed out a mandatory background update and I haven't even been able to reformat my computer. DAMN YOU CANONICAL!! Also urxvt was replaced with GNOME Term somehow.

Ubuntu is dead to me (3, Funny)

sagematt (1251956) | about 2 years ago | (#39808709)

Ubuntu was dead to me since the moment they tried to force Unity down out throats. I'm sticking to Mint from now on.

Re:Ubuntu is dead to me (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808829)

Actually, if you install Cinnamon, it more or less works. Some things are still missing such as a GUI to manager user groups, but it's not too bad.

I have LinuxMint12 with Cinnamon working in a virtual machine and it looks better, runs better, shows more promise. I've seen that LM13 is due in May 2012. Maybe it will be based on U12.04. When LM13 comes out, I'll experiment with it to see if it wll be my replacement for U12.04

Re:Ubuntu is dead to me (1)

sagematt (1251956) | about 2 years ago | (#39809117)

After Unity even Mint's mod of GNOME 3 looks and feels tolerable to me. Been working with it just fine.

Re:Ubuntu is dead to me (5, Insightful)

SolitaryMan (538416) | about 2 years ago | (#39809091)

The thing that *REALLY* pisses me off is that Gnome followed along with this touch screen UI crap the Unity really is. I thought like, OK, fuck Unity, I'm sticking with Gnome (which I really liked and all), but boom! here goes the dynamite! Gnome is the same crap.

The worst part is that I switched my wife to Ubuntu a while ago, with a reasoning that I'm maintaining her laptop anyways and for me it is easier to deal with Linux. Now here comes the Unity crap and she's like "Now I have to REMEMBER all the fucking programs names? WTF?". And now, we both stuck with a couple of years old Ubuntu, which won't be supported anymore.

On serious note: what are the alternatives? Are there any other menu-based window managers, that look nice? I mean, I can tolerate the Fluxbox, but my wife definitely cant

Re:Ubuntu is dead to me (5, Informative)

Bill Hayden (649193) | about 2 years ago | (#39809211)

I just switched to Xubuntu with a simple "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop", and now I'm perfectly happy. The XFCE environment is very much like the Gnome 2 we all used to love. Cinnamon will also install on Ubuntu, but frankly I like XFCE better than Gnome 2/3/Cinnamon now that I've tried them side-by-side.

Re:Ubuntu is dead to me (1)

Sepodati (746220) | about 2 years ago | (#39809245)

You can get the same categorical listings of programs in Unity as you could in the old drop downs. No need to type or remember every programs name.

It's maybe an extra click or two. But if you're like the guy that can't handle the close button being on the "wrong" side, then good luck finding an alternative.

Re:Ubuntu is dead to me (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809131)

Likewise. I switched back to Debian when that little stunt happened. There's a difference between "hey you should consider giving our new UI a try" and "please reboot after this system update -- oh look, you're in a new desktop paradigm now!"

Saving us the trouble of reading comments (5, Funny)

Overunderrated (1518503) | about 2 years ago | (#39808737)

Poster 1) Unity is and always will be an unholy mess.
Poster 2) Unity is a massive leap forward in modern functionality, and anyone that simply gives it an honest try will agree.
Poster 1) I have tried. I don't want to learn new things and shouldn't have to. I had to switch to xfce.
Poster 3) APPLE APPLE APPLE
Poster 4) Seriously, Windows 8? Really?
Poster 5) You all should really give gnome3 another chance, it's really almost acceptable to use now.
Poster 1) Ubuntu is dead to me.
Poster 6) Remember NeXT?

Not convinced yet (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808747)

I've test-driven Unity in the past but despite being told "the ugly duckling has grown into a beautiful swan" TFA doesn't give any information about what, if anything, they did about those horrible hiding scroll bars, auto-showing side bar, 1-pixel wide window edge focus, so-called "smart" volume control that controls headphone volume on low settings and speaker volume on high settings (instead of allowing me to control them independently).

I couldn't care less about all the "touch screen friendly" features they've added. I'm not using one. Thus, my most important question still is (and remains unanswered by TFA): how can I *switch off* Unity in 12.04LTS?

Re:Not convinced yet (1)

anss123 (985305) | about 2 years ago | (#39808847)

so-called "smart" volume control that controls headphone volume on low settings and speaker volume on high settings

Is that for real?

Gave me a laugh at least :)

Re:Not convinced yet (2)

Derek Pomery (2028) | about 2 years ago | (#39808915)

My XFCE4 session still works fine in Ubuntu 12.04 - a bit better since the dragging multiple items bug is fixed.
The Mint Gnome Extensions repo was disabled, I haven't gotten around to reenabling that and retesting it since I mostly use XFCE4 anyway, but I did log into Gnome Shell and it still works fine too.

Ditto "Gnome Classic (no effects)" although obviously it isn't Gnome Classic - fare warning for anyone still on Gnome 2 who expects to be able to do simple things like arrange applets on your panel, move the clock somewhere less crowded, and, oh, have applets.

Oh. On my SO's system, the event calendar seems to work better in Unity than in Gnome Shell - in Unity the events area expands nicely. In Gnome Shell it is a crumpled up little unscrollable thing.

Minor annoying thing for me. Iagno now locks up every other game and is very sluggish. Only tested in Unity 2D on SO's machine.

Re:Not convinced yet (1)

Derek Pomery (2028) | about 2 years ago | (#39809023)

"fair warning", not "fare warning"
ugh. I hate it when my fingers type out a homophone. Is like there is a "bad spelling" part of the brain

Re:Not convinced yet (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809189)

Unity sucks ( big ******** *****)
But it works like a kid lock on my htpc since it don't allow
much without a keyboard, 1 pixel control and selective use of
hidden context menus.
Anyway the last beta locks it up randomly in compiz, so the beta is beta.

Instead I upgraded my laptop to kUbuntu on just 5 attempts
since the open source ATI drivers overheated my laptop before
it was completed, finally since jockey didn't work I had to get
catalyst manually from ATI. To be fair, mostly Dell's fault...

So, since last week it must have improved immensely!

Meh (1)

halfkoreanamerican (2566687) | about 2 years ago | (#39808783)

Thank God they didn't go for a name like Lackadaisical Lemur, as those would have very accurately described my sentiments of 11.04. It upgraded without a hitch... but what demons may be lurking below have yet to be discovered! No, but seriously, it does seem to work and for that I'm grateful.

Downloading... (1)

msobkow (48369) | about 2 years ago | (#39808789)

I'm not particularly hopeful of a functional system given the mouse problems I've had from 10.04.2 onwards, but I'll download it, try to install it, and give it a shot.

I really do like Debian's APT system a lot better than Fedora's RPM, though both get the job done. But unless that mouse problem isn't present, it doesn't matter which I prefer -- I need to use a distro that works.

The kicker will be whether they're using a GTK based installer or not. While you can always resort to text/expert mode, it's a nuisance to have to do so.

Yes, I know it's not an Ubuntu specific issue, but this is the problem I have with the recent set of distros from Debian and Ubuntu (including Kubuntu's installer.)

Mouse clicks getting lost [gnome.org]

Astoturfing? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808807)

Why was the submitter Anonymous? Perhaps because their address was @canonical.com?

Seriously. I am sure everyone can smell the astroturfing here.

Focus Follows Mouse (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808809)

I tried it (Unity) for the first time last night. I hated it. It doesn't have focus follows mouse, or sloppy focus.

Ubuntu is now dead to me. I'm looking for another distro.

Any suggestions? Please!? Thanks in advance.

Re:Focus Follows Mouse (4, Interesting)

ledow (319597) | about 2 years ago | (#39808919)

I tried it for the first time this week.

All I wanted was to make a "kiosk"-type computer that ran Opera and nothing else.

After 2 hours, I got bored of switching options and the fecking side-bar thing popping up and just put the system in place (its only for temporary usage anyway, to replace a "classic" Ubuntu machine running the last LTS release).

Seriously, I couldn't find any options that I went hunting for and all the tutorials on the Internet to get rid of the thing were basically "uninstall all that crap and install Gnome".

I can understand needing to hide functionality from dumb users but, seriously, I'd just installed, just in as my first and only user and I could not find any options to hide, say, the network connection information, the mail icon, the side-bar, nothing. I couldn't see any options for a screensaver at all (apparently, all that's "old hat" now but I also couldn't stop it blanking the monitor when it felt like it). Hell, it took me several minutes to realise the side-bar WAS the program launching menu too even though it looked more just a taskbar. It took me a good few minutes to even get near a terminal.

All the things I've read basically say remove it. I can see why. If I installed that crap over my last big deployment of Ubuntu (on 50 netbooks for a school), then I'd be fired. It is literally that bad and unconfigurable.

Ironically, I now use Ubuntu LTS for a server and Slackware for desktops...

Re:Focus Follows Mouse (4, Informative)

mspohr (589790) | about 2 years ago | (#39809317)

I've installed it for my Mom because she keeps "losing the Internet" I set up the menubar (Launcher) to have only Firefox and Writer. I deleted everything else. (This is easy to do... just right click on the icon and select "Unlock from Launcher" and it goes away.) If you need the programs back on the Launcher, you can just drag them from the Dash back onto the Launcher.
Your other problem is also easily solved. To keep the screen from blanking, go to Settings - Brightness and Lock. You can also set the Launcher to Auto-hide (the default is for it to be present all the time) by Settings - Appearance.
I had no problem figuring these things out even though I am a clueless newbie most of the time.

Re:Focus Follows Mouse (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808931)

Yeah, I have a suggestion... Learn to use linux properly.

I too hate Unity with a passion. And lightdm. So you know what I did? I *gasp* uninstalled them! Gnome 3 has problems of its own, that is true. It is also possible to remove Gnome 3 and install Gnome 2, you know.

Did that ever occur to any of you? Or do you not actually understand that the best thing ABOUT linux distros is that you can customize them in literally any way you wish? Hell, if you want to you can build your own damn distro... If you learn how it actually works.

Re:Focus Follows Mouse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808975)

I tried it (Unity) for the first time last night. I hated it. It doesn't have focus follows mouse, or sloppy focus.

I use it every day and I can assure you that it has both, as I use both every day.

Unfortunately, the means to change those settings are buried in an external GTK tool that you have to apt-get *after* you install. A tiny bit of Google searching for a fix to the problem should lead you straight to it, however.

What you should be annoyed with is the algorithm Unity uses to show/hide the application dock, as it is exceptionally stupid.

Re:Focus Follows Mouse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809097)

It doesn't have focus follows mouse, or sloppy focus.

Thanks for the warning. Now I know to avoid it at all cost.

Chameleon (1)

barv (1382797) | about 2 years ago | (#39808857)

I wish for an easy to use skin selector. Ubuntu seems to produce a new feel far too often.

New Ubuntu release? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808883)

New Ubuntu release? Oh good, that means there should be a new Linux Mint release right around the corner. From what I've heard, they'll now have everything completely back to the way I'm used to (and like!)

(And so yay! Ubuntu still serves a useful purpose; advance warning for the upcoming Mint release.)

A great day for desktop linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808907)

Most of the comments here so far are debating what they thought the code name for this release should be. I think that says a lot about how far desktop linux has come if that's all we can find to improve. Either that or we all spend too much time complaining about the color of the bikeshed than working on real problems.

I'm excited! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39808913)

I wonder how many of the Unity Haters derided mobile phones when they came out.... but now use one. I'm going to try it just to prove I'm not too old to try something new...

Re:I'm excited! (5, Insightful)

ledow (319597) | about 2 years ago | (#39809043)

Ubuntu's interface is shit. There, I said it.

I just bought my first ever smartphone last month. It's a Samsung Android phone. It works. I can use it. I can move shit around and find my way around it quite easily.

I'm not too old to try something new. I'm too old to have time to go through this shit every time someone has a bright idea when I was more productive than ever with the previous incarnation, and where every iteration I've ever tried makes me less productive.

I spent most of the time in Unity right-clicking on things hoping there were more options to turn shit off and put useful things on. I assumed it was all just hidden away somewhere and I could find it. Imagine my disappointment when I discovered that that was *IT* in terms of interface.

Fuck typing the names of programs into a dialog box. That assumes I know what the bloody thing is called. I just want to categorise stuff and thus keep all related things visible without having to handle special interfaces to do so.

Ubuntu has become the thing that it was supposed to be an alternative too: Fucking stupid design ideas destroying existing productivity for the sake of something shiny.

Re:I'm excited! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809217)

I never hated mobile phones. But then, mobile phones didn't try to make everything different just because.

"a beautiful swan" (4, Funny)

kallisti5 (1321143) | about 2 years ago | (#39808947)

"a beautiful swan"... A beautiful swan as long as you don't mind it uncontrollably eating menu bars and crapping on your rug.

Quality (0)

hantms (2527172) | about 2 years ago | (#39808963)

Credit where credit is do, it really works very well. It's stable, polished and fast.. And there is some innovative stuff too, such as the keyboard-driven way to access application menus. (Called the HUD: hit Alt and start typing the name of the function.)

Well worth giving it a go. It's borderline Apple quality in terms of the overall experience.

Re:Quality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809045)

Well worth giving it a go. It's borderline Apple quality in terms of the overall experience.

That is the harshest, most damning thing I have ever seen anyone say about Ubuntu.

I mean, it really can't be THAT bad, as bad as Unity, lightdm and Gnome 3 are...

Re:Quality (1)

interval1066 (668936) | about 2 years ago | (#39809087)

It's borderline Apple quality in terms of the overall experience.

HAD to inject that little bbit in there, didn't you? Fanbois...

An alternative, elementary os (1)

kallisti5 (1321143) | about 2 years ago | (#39809031)

From what i've seen, elementary os should be a game changer if they can get their next version released. Think Ubuntu without unity and the turd shine.. add docky.

I was hoping for a review.. (4, Insightful)

Chryana (708485) | about 2 years ago | (#39809047)

When I read in the summary that Unity was now a "beautiful swan", I clicked on the link, hoping to get a review of why this is the case. Instead, I get a long summary of the biggest new features in the latest version. Not very convincing.

Re:I was hoping for a review.. (4, Funny)

Beardo the Bearded (321478) | about 2 years ago | (#39809229)

Perhaps by "beautiful swan" they mean the coked out, starving, bleeding, hallucinating swan portrayed by Natalie Portman.

32-bit desktop still "recommended" (4, Informative)

addikt10 (461932) | about 2 years ago | (#39809085)

I'm surprised that they still recommend 32-bit for desktop instead of 64.
Programs probably just not quite ready for LTS on 64, but disappointing nonetheless.

Xubuntu (1)

Meneth (872868) | about 2 years ago | (#39809141)

Trackpad settings are lost on reboot, extra packages are needed to get sane status displays, but everything else works great.

Above all, it's not Unity.

Try Xubuntu or Lubuntu (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809163)

You get chewy Ubuntu goodness without the ipecac shell.

Yes, Screen shots of bikini'd asses. (2)

InvisibleClergy (1430277) | about 2 years ago | (#39809169)

That's totally the way to get me to take you seriously, Ubuntu team. That's also totally what I want on my screen at work in my open office environment.

Re:Yes, Screen shots of bikini'd asses. (1)

InvisibleClergy (1430277) | about 2 years ago | (#39809205)

My mistake, not Ubuntu team. About Linux team. And yes, I know it's an album cover, and it's tiny, but frankly I don't care.

Unity is a Operation Ivy song not a linux debacle (1)

werld (102206) | about 2 years ago | (#39809267)

Don't they get it? We don't #$%&!?$ want unity. Task bar is a must. Moving tray items is a must. Synaptic package manger is a must. Its so complicated to make it look like my 10.10 desktop. I don't want a tablet look and feel. The good thing is that when one distro messes up, another one jumps in place. Whoever decided to treat their power users as bubbly happy farmville users should be 86d from the Linux community. I've been reading slashdot for 15 years and this is my first post which shows how retarded unity is. Die, die, die.....Unity...Die.

Mint Debian edition (1, Insightful)

MetricT (128876) | about 2 years ago | (#39809315)

I was the first person at our office to try Ubuntu, way back in the Dapper Drake days. It spread like a virus so that pretty much all our Linux users were using Ubuntu. We even rolled it out to about 100 servers. But Canonical has ceased listening to what I need, and started telling me what I want. The best thing I can say about Unity is at least it isn't Gnome Shell.

So you see Canonical, it isn't me, it's you. Until you come to your senses, I'm sticking with Mint Debian edition. It has the Gnome 2 desktop like God intended. Rebuild the humanity icon pack and the Ambiance theme and your desktop can look exactly like the Ubuntu of olde, only minus the suck.

Until Ubuntu come to their senses and either ditches Unity or makes its usability and feature set on par with Gnome 2/MATE, that's where I'll be.

Panning and Scalling support? (2)

negativeduck (2510256) | about 2 years ago | (#39809319)

xrandr.... ever since 11.04 it seems (if not even earlier) they incorporated the version of X that has broken bound checking. So use on small screens and trying to use scaling or panning is broken. I have a netbook and I had to wipe it after upgrading from LTS.. to find it broken... To upgrade to the next release... still broken.. to upgrade to the next release still broken.

Maybe I can give it a try if they got all that worked. out.

(Yes I freely admit to being to lazy to build my own X server.)

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