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Opus Dei To Hunt Down Vatican Whistle-Blowers

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the dan-brown-hangs-his-head-dejectedly dept.

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First time accepted submitter Aguazul2 writes "In a familiar story relocated into the bizarre world of the Vatican, a whistle-blower who brought to light excessive overpayments on contracts to friendly suppliers was sent to the USA as punishment, and further sources of leaks are now being hunted down by a crack team headed by an 82-year old Opus Dei cardinal. It's just like Wikileaks, only with parchment and quills — probably."

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ATTN: SWITCHEURS! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809219)

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Re:ATTN: SWITCHEURS! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39810123)

Wow, nostalgia rush.

But.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809233)

Do they know kung-fu?

Re:But.... (4, Funny)

cayenne8 (626475) | about 2 years ago | (#39809353)

Opus....?

This is the penguin from Bloom County, right?

When did he become a cardinal???? Last time I heard he was still with Bill the Cat in the band Deathtongue!!!!

Re:But.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809723)

No, this is Opus Dei, the evil organization in Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code".

So beware, if you see one that's an albino, RUN. Because you've been transported into a shitty novel and you need to escape from that ASAP before your character development gets stilted and the plot takes an absurd twist and the Deus Ex Machina gets layered on thick.

I'd like to know (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809239)

Is Tom Hanks with a weird haircut implicated in all this?

Geez, they should have known better! (0, Flamebait)

quax (19371) | about 2 years ago | (#39809255)

The only accountability that matters is the one at Judgment Day. Until then let's party like it's 999.

Bloody fools.

War criminals like Tony Blair understand that crystal clear hence the conversion to catholicism.

Re:Geez, they should have known better! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809323)

Or the conversion to that green religion, fools

No one expects the Spanish Inquistion! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809261)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAn7baRbhx4

Re:No one expects the Spanish Inquistion! (1)

nospam007 (722110) | about 2 years ago | (#39810249)

Unfortunately it's no joke.

from WP:
"... Pope John Paul II named Ratzinger as the Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, formerly known as the "Sacred Congregaton of the Holy Office", the historical Inquisition. ..."

Which is why... (5, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | about 2 years ago | (#39809275)

...we need anonymity systems. People who are afraid to report unethical behavior are less likely to report it (shocking!), and whistleblower protections are neither universal nor reliable.

Re:Which is why... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809557)

which is one of the thousands of reasons religion needs to die. Period.

Re:Which is why... (3, Interesting)

jellomizer (103300) | about 2 years ago | (#39809741)

Why yes, because corruption in non-religious areas is unheard of.

Corruption is highest in areas where the people have the reputation of being incorruptible/working for the public good.
Religions are in this group, but so are...
Unions,
Activist Organizations,
Health Services,
Government Services,
Education,
Science...

Actually I am willing to bet the areas where there is less corruption (At least in corruption/dollar) is probably in business as everyone expects them to already be corrupt.

Re:Which is why... (4, Insightful)

Jessified (1150003) | about 2 years ago | (#39810203)

I would argue that corruption is prevalent in business but that we just don't call it corruption. When a business does something morally despicable for money, they are serving their shareholders.

Buy some legislation? Just serving their profit motive, it's the politicians that are corrupt, amirite?

Re:Which is why... (1)

MatthiasF (1853064) | about 2 years ago | (#39809877)

Anonymity systems don't work if there's a finite number of people who know about the issue in enough detail to blow a whistle.

Re:Which is why... (5, Informative)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | about 2 years ago | (#39809997)

You do realize that the Vatican is a sovereign state, right? The Vatican has the right to structure their reporting structure any way they want. It is not a democracy. In a democracy, the government is theoretically answerable to the people and therefore the people have a claim to being informed by whistleblowers as to inappropriate behavior on the part of government officials (and therefore whistleblower protections should exist to some degree in a democracy). The Vatican on the other hand is not in anyway a democracy. The various officials of the Vatican government are only theoretically answerable up the chain of command to the Pope, who is, theoretically, answerable to no power on earth. Someone in the Vatican government who reports inappropriate behavior to someone outside of the Vatican government hierarchy is not a "whistleblower", as, theoretically, there is no one outside of the Vatican government to blow the whistle to, they are, instead, a traitor (I am not sure if that is the correct word from the perspective of Vatican governance, but if it isn't, I am not sure what is). They have betrayed their commitments as a member of that organization (similar to someone who had reported such actions by a government official of the USSR to a western government).

News for Nerds (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809281)

How is this nerd news worthy exactly?
Cue the conspiracy theory loonies and church haters now.

Editors, stay in your lane and post tech news please.

Re:News for Nerds (3, Insightful)

Jeng (926980) | about 2 years ago | (#39809613)

Although the story is interesting, this is not the place for it.

Re:News for Nerds (2)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | about 2 years ago | (#39809697)

I don't see how this is related to anything relevant to this site, even with them wedging Wikileaks into the summary.

Re:News for Nerds (2)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 years ago | (#39809895)

Although the story is interesting, this is not the place for it.

I don't know, the extent to which organizations want to track down and silence whistle blowers is kind of interesting and apropos to other things we see.

They don't seem to be denying the allegations, just trying to shut them up.

Since it's still people involved, it's not a huge stretch to think there might be some corruption going on.

Hope they make an Anime of it (4, Funny)

TJ_Phazerhacki (520002) | about 2 years ago | (#39809289)

Most of the Catholic-church-secret-agent ones are pretty fun to watch...

Re:Hope they make an Anime of it (3, Informative)

sandytaru (1158959) | about 2 years ago | (#39809511)

Any time Japan tackles anything related to Christianity in an anime the results tend to be quite awesome. Wolfwood from Trigun is probably still my favorite. (Not Catholic, but still awesome-funny.)

Re:Hope they make an Anime of it (3, Informative)

Ihmhi (1206036) | about 2 years ago | (#39809817)

Don't forget Alexander Maxwell from Hellsing and Rosette Christopher from Chrno Crusade!

Re:Hope they make an Anime of it (1)

OzPeter (195038) | about 2 years ago | (#39810283)

Most of the Catholic-church-secret-agent ones are pretty fun to watch...

Well if you want the Church of England version .. you can always hunt down Gerry Anderson's The Secret Service [wikipedia.org] which features Father Stanley Unwin, the parish priest of a rural English village who also worked as a secret agent for BISHOP - a covert branch of British Intelligence that combats international criminal and terrorist threats.
 
It also featured the "Minimiser", a gadget that shrinks Unwin's assistant Matthew Harding to a fraction of his normal size for the purposes of conducting secret reconnaissance
 
What could be more exciting as that!

Crack team? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809297)

I suspect the Vatican's definition of crack team coincides nicely with Jerry Sandusky's.

Re:Crack team? (5, Insightful)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#39810055)

Funny that a religious organization would hunt down whistleblowers, but provide shelter for child molesters.

What's new here again? (4, Insightful)

hackula (2596247) | about 2 years ago | (#39809339)

Has the Vatican not been wasting vast amounts of gullible people's money on stupid shit for over a millennium?

Re:What's new here again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809369)

wasting vast amounts of gullible people's money on stupid shit for over a millennium

I think that would be a great corporate slogan for the Vatican (^_^)

Re:What's new here again? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809461)

Yeah, we should burn down that Sistine Chapel. What a monstrosity sketched by a Ninja Turtle.

Re:What's new here again? (-1)

Penguinisto (415985) | about 2 years ago | (#39810309)

How sophomoric...

But by all means, let's stop spending money on aid programs in Africa, South America, and Asia. Let's have them stop putting up hospitals in places which traditionally had none otherwise (and not just Mother Teresa's outfit in India either, because historically this includes a very large number of cities in the US), schools and universities in places which otherwise had/have none (again, if you look at history...), community food and shelter assistance programs (worldwide), watchdog and (albeit passive) resistance efforts in totalitarian nations (including today, in China, Iran, etc). Oh, and yeah, let's just stop supporting the poor altogether.

So, what would you have them spend the money on instead? You got half the suggestion done, so let's hear the other half. What would you spend it on, and how would you do it in a manner that's more efficient than what they use - especially considering that they're using mostly volunteers for the administration and much of the labor (which alone can eat anywhere from 20 - 60%or more of the budget for most registered charities out there).

I'll certainly never say their spending record is perfect (especially a record spanning over nearly two millennia), but overall it's a damned sight better than nearly any other organization in human history has managed - especially once you include governments and commercial institutions into the comparison.

And? (-1, Redundant)

s7uar7 (746699) | about 2 years ago | (#39809347)

News nope for nerds still no, stuff that matters definitely not.

Re:And? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809589)

Only thing more useless than this story is your overused, pointless comment.

Now even the Pope hates the truth? (1)

fredrated (639554) | about 2 years ago | (#39809363)

It has seemed like society has been going down hill as more and more people are dishonest.

Et tu, pope?

Re:Now even the Pope hates the truth? (1, Troll)

hackula (2596247) | about 2 years ago | (#39809441)

Especially the pope. He is the head of the largest cult in history. The "Truth" is not high on the list of important things for people who believe in magic, much less preach it.

Re:Now even the Pope hates the truth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809569)

The Pope [youtube.com] has always hated Truth. He does, however, love little boys.

Re:Now even the Pope hates the truth? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809715)

Have you noticed 0 Catholics said a word about this article? Believe me its not because we don't know anything or because we are stupid and we just like to give our money out... Think about it for a second.

Most important: Why hate? i mean there is no constructive criticism here, only hate and disrespect. If you don't agree with a religion (Catholicism is a religion not a cult =p) Its cool, but what is the necessity to insult it or the people who believes in it? If you are fat or gay, yellow, black, etc Would you like to hear other people insulting your race or religions/believes?(Even though many people do as you guys are doing it here, wouldnt it be better just to keep silent instead of writing insulting words to other human beings?)

Please people be a better person

Re:Now even the Pope hates the truth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809843)

Catholicism is not a religion, Christianity is a religion. Catholics are a faction or sect of Christianity. It is an old sect, the ones who brought the dark ages over Europe just so they could hold onto power in the region. Following the ways of the Roman Empire. But what happened to the empire, it fell, so we all know the path.

Re:Now even the Pope hates the truth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809919)

From Dictionary.com:

cultâ â[kuhlt] Show IPA
noun
1.
a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2.
an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3.
the object of such devotion.
4.
a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5.
Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.

Going by the dictionary definition of cult, all religions are cult. In every day vernacular, cult has a negative connotation, but I suppose that depends on one's perspective. The formal definition still applies to all religions.

Whistle blower - really (4, Funny)

approachingZero (1365381) | about 2 years ago | (#39809415)

Never would have thought having a reputation as a whistle blower in the Catholic church would have been a career killer. Matter of fact I would have thought it would result some serious upward mobility.

Re:Whistle blower - really (0)

TheMathemagician (2515102) | about 2 years ago | (#39809735)

Really? You're very naive then. Any whistle-blower who embarrasses the leadership of any organisation is invariably kicked out.

Nobody Expects (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809423)

Nobody Expects The Opus Dei Inquisition!

First order from the Cardinal: (5, Funny)

Fned (43219) | about 2 years ago | (#39809427)

"Round up all the choir boys, we need to probe them to see if they've ever leaked."

Re:First order from the Cardinal: (1)

Anonymous Codger (96717) | about 2 years ago | (#39809681)

Damn, I have mod points and I couldn't decide whether to mod this Funny or Flamebait. Guess I'll sit it out.

Re:First order from the Cardinal: (2)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#39810097)

Damn, I have mod points and I couldn't decide whether to mod this Funny or Flamebait. Guess I'll sit it out.

Sometimes flamebait is funny.

So much for the morality of the Vatican (3, Insightful)

StillNeedMoreCoffee (123989) | about 2 years ago | (#39809445)

Keep your legs crossed and your mouth shut, expect in the confessional where you can tell us all but no one else. Whats wrong with this picture?

Paging Mr. Stephenson... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809449)

Sounds like the plot of a Neal Stephenson book.

my MIT classmate works at Vatican (5, Informative)

peter303 (12292) | about 2 years ago | (#39809473)

I assure you its more up to date than pens-and-quills. He is one of their dozen astronomers and they have state-of-art observatories around the world [wikipedia.org] .

Re:my MIT classmate works at Vatican (2)

ks*nut (985334) | about 2 years ago | (#39809941)

Well, they've had some catching-up to do since they finally have pardoned Galileo and admitted that the Earth is not the center of practically anything.

Re:my MIT classmate works at Vatican (1)

peter303 (12292) | about 2 years ago | (#39810179)

A priest did suggest [wikipedia.org] the expansion of the universe before Hubble (the man) documented it. Put the "Fear of Creation" back into astronomer's souls.

Re:my MIT classmate works at Vatican (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809943)

Who cares what state-of-the-art equipment they have, when they still believe in ghosts and goblins? All the scientific work in the world does not for one second make up for what this circus of repressive idiots did to Galileo Galilee, or for the actions of the Inquisition, so it makes no difference if they're doing observations, their data cannot be relied upon because they think an imaginary creature created all the stuff they're looking at, with the supposedly state-of-the-art equipment you claim they're using.

Also, as for pens and quills, although every single thing of theirs may be hilariously outdated, let me ask you this: have you ever heard the expression "getting medieval on their asses"? The Catholic Church excels in exactly ONE AREA: tormenting people, and making them regret having ever been born. They're EXPERTS at that shit, the fucking assholes... no one, not even their phony-baloney "god" knows how much misery that fucking organization is responsible for, it's uncountable and boundless, and as long as it continues to exist, it will continue to pervert and warp the minds of its members, and try to spread the evil of its dogma around the world. Much like just about every other religion on the planet. How sad.

Re:my MIT classmate works at Vatican (4, Insightful)

iztaru (832035) | about 2 years ago | (#39810065)

Oh, come on!

Please read history before you post.

The only reason Galileo was not burned alive is because he was a close friend to the pope.

It was his colleges who wanted him death because his ideas were against the ideas they had based their entire carriers on.

The academic establishment is even more reluctant to change than the catholic church.

Re:my MIT classmate works at Vatican (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39810267)

> It was his colleges who wanted him death because his ideas were against the ideas they had based their entire carriers on.

Bullshit. Provide any evidence for this.

Galileo had connections, yes, and while he wouldn't have been burned at the stake at any rate, he probably would have died penniless and in prison had he not recanted.

> The academic establishment is even more reluctant to change than the catholic church.

Codswallop. The academic establishment is a bunch of back-biting egomaniacs precisely because their entire field is about challenging each other's assumptions.

Dan Brown help us all!!! (5, Insightful)

dryriver (1010635) | about 2 years ago | (#39809509)

Must... find... albino... assassin... religionfreak... and... send... him... after... whistleblowers... (Amen?) ------ But seriously, what a weird story this is. Isn't the Vatican supposed to be all about "The Truth Shall Set Thee Free" because, erm, Christian belief mandates it? So what is wrong with a little whistleblowing? Why is someone exposing the truth even a "whistleblower" in this particular case? Very strange story all around...

Re:Dan Brown help us all!!! (2)

Thud457 (234763) | about 2 years ago | (#39809575)

Isn't the Vatican supposed to be all about " The Truth Shall Set Thee Free "

No, that's the CIA.
Draw what amusing conclusions you will from the above juxtaposition.

Re:Dan Brown help us all!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39810143)

>Isn't the Vatican supposed to be all about "The Truth Shall Set Thee Free" because, erm, Christian belief mandates it?

Not at all. There is nothing about that in Christianity. This is an example of people projecting their personal values on the religion. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, is about as close as it gets.

Amongst our weaponry are.. (2)

mevets (322601) | about 2 years ago | (#39809529)

... and nice red uniforms.
I like how banishment to the States has replaced the comfy-chair as the punishment of choice.
Too bad they didnâ(TM)t unleash this hound on the child-rapists theyâ(TM)ve hidden for so long...

Isn't it a bit gay to believe in God? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809563)

Isn't it a bit gay to believe in God? Happy and merry for the initiated?

Typical Vatican thinking (5, Interesting)

wickerprints (1094741) | about 2 years ago | (#39809579)

Let me clearly state from the outset that I bear no ill will against any individual Catholics who wish to abide by the religion of their choosing. But to look at the long history of the corruption and arrogance of the Catholic hierarchy and not feel completely outraged is to facilitate their wrongdoing.

Just two recent examples: First, the child rape scandal. It was going on for decades, while superior members of the clergy would help cover up the abuse of children by pedophile priests by shuffling them around, colluding with local law enforcement to intimidate families, and paying hush money. To this day they fight the allegations, trying to minimize the impact of what they did and frame their actions as that of a small number of isolated "deviant homosexual" priests, while complaining about paying money to victims that they could be using "for the greater good." They don't talk about making reparations or holding accountable the officials who turned a blind eye or even assisted in the systemic corruption of covering up these atrocities.

Second example: this case. So the Vatican has been shown to be corrupt in its financial dealings, and what is their reaction? Hunt down the whistleblowers, rather than punish the ones doing the actual crime! It's the same kind of thinking--what threatens the Church, in their view, is not the failure to do the morally proper thing. It's whomever exposes their leadership for the arrogant crimes they commit under the guise of being holy.

I don't understand how Catholics can sanctify these dirty old men as the self-appointed leaders of their faith. If that's what your spirit tells you, then maybe you should consider the possibility that you're being held spiritually hostage by these people as a way to further their power, and the reality is that if you truly want to be closer to God, there are far better ways to do that than through these morally bankrupt charlatans.

Re:Typical Vatican thinking (2)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#39809663)

AFAIC, anyone who still gives their money to the Church at this point *deserves* to get used. As long as they're not using my tax dollars, only the money of gullible suckers, the Pope could be throwing orgies for all I care.

Re:Typical Vatican thinking (2)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#39809719)

I'm all for fools being parted from their money, but not for the bad guys getting to keep it.

Especially when said bad guys are brainwashing people into being more fools.

Re:Typical Vatican thinking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809765)

Well said.

Re:Typical Vatican thinking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809823)

"First, the child rape scandal"
80% of the abuse was pederasty, adult men having sex with teenage boys, which is different than pedaphilia. The primary cause of this was the acceptance of people who did not beleive Catholic teaching into seminaries in the 60's/70's/80's. It was further compouneded by the Bishops taking the advice of secular psychologists that this behavior could be cured via therapy. That resulted in the majority of the passing around of offenders. The rate of offence was several times LESS than that in public schools or other religious organizations. The child protection programs insituted in the US Church makes the Catholic Church the safest organization for children; sorry if the facts get in the way of your hatred.

"I don't understand how Catholics can sanctify these dirty old men "
Ignorant generalization.

Let me know when you find an organization of perfect people. Otherwise why don't you do something more meaningful and address the actual teachings of the Catholic Church and try to develop some arguement against them. Making statements that amounts to "People are sinners" are meaningless and a waste of time.

Re:Typical Vatican thinking (1)

SirFatty (1940968) | about 2 years ago | (#39810001)

"Let me know when you find an organization of perfect people." Apples and oranges you anonymous fuckwit. Most organizations are not full of self-righteous snobs. The priests are pedophiles btw, it assholes like you who try to make the behaviour less vile that it actually is. Now you should get back to sniffing glue.

Re:Typical Vatican thinking (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39810063)

You missed the point. It wasn't that child abuse happened, it's that it was covered up and not dealt with when it did occur. Saying this happens other places does not make it okay.

Re:Typical Vatican thinking (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#39810191)

80% of the abuse was pederasty, adult men having sex with teenage boys

So they spent decades providing cover for those men, but now they're outraged that American nuns aren't sufficiently hostile to homosexuality.

Disgusting hypocrites.

Re:Typical Vatican thinking (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39810075)

I don't understand how Catholics can sanctify these dirty old men as the self-appointed leaders of their faith. If that's what your spirit tells you, then maybe you should consider the possibility that you're being held spiritually hostage by these people as a way to further their power, and the reality is that if you truly want to be closer to God, there are far better ways to do that than through these morally bankrupt charlatans.

There have been far worse cardinals in the past. A look back at the Middle Ages through to the Counter-Reformation shows popes that were barely religious and spent as much or more on whores and amusing gymnastic midgets as they did on charity. The problems this causes for devout Catholics have been addressed by various theologians such as St Thomas Acquinas. Basically, the doctrine is that the personal failings of the priest (or bishop, cardinal, pope etc) do not affect the validity of the sacrement. In fact, even a completely fake priest can still give valid confession, last rites etc from the point of view of the layman (although the fraudster is, of course, going straight to hell).

Re:Typical Vatican thinking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39810087)

Their belief system is not rooted in or based in any way upon reality, so it should come as no surprise that they (the vatican leadershit) is corrupt and evil. Organized religions are NOT about saving people, or making them happy or healthy, they are about CONTROLLING IDIOTS who are willing to believe in superstitious bullshit. Always have been, since the outset of organized religion. It was true of Judaism, it is true of Catholicism and Islam, and it stands to reason that it is also true of Eastern religions too... it is in the nature of the evolution (yes, I said it) of religions that ones that refuse to admit the possibility of the existence of other deities will be subsumed and destroyed by those that don't. So if a religion exists, and is practiced, (that is to say, if their bullshit dogma is believed in) by many people, it almost has to be exclusionary, and some person or group will at some point figure out how to exploit people's stupidity to control them and enrich themselves. The human tragicomedy goes on, and the players are mostly unaware of the game. How sad.

Re:Typical Vatican thinking (1, Insightful)

iztaru (832035) | about 2 years ago | (#39810169)

Second example: this case. So the Vatican has been shown to be corrupt in its financial dealings, and what is their reaction? Hunt down the whistleblowers, rather than punish the ones doing the actual crime! It's the same kind of thinking--what threatens the Church, in their view, is not the failure to do the morally proper thing. It's whomever exposes their leadership for the arrogant crimes they commit under the guise of being holy.

Find and replace and will still make complete sense:

Vatican => United States
Church => Nation

A vatican scandal! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809609)

Shocking!

They are quite harsh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809615)

whistle-blower who brought to light excessive overpayments on contracts to friendly suppliers was sent to the USA as punishment

Now that's just cruel and inhuman.

Re:They are quite harsh (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#39810221)

whistle-blower who brought to light excessive overpayments on contracts to friendly suppliers was sent to the USA as punishment

Now that's just cruel and inhuman.

Maybe they sent him to where they thought he was needed most.

Checks calendar (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809661)

Okay let me check....no it's not April 1st... checks other calendars.... no....not even on some weird Julian calendar....is this for real???

I don't understand. (1)

gfxguy (98788) | about 2 years ago | (#39809691)

Why is it wrong for an entity to "reward" "friendly" suppliers? This isn't like the government collecting mandatory taxes, it's an entity that largely gets it's money from willing donors, they should be able to do whatever they want with the money. If donors don't like it, they can stop donating.

Or do all you slashdotters making fun of religious people's beliefs suddenly care that they're getting ripped off, as if you didn't feel they were getting ripped off all along anyway?

I would think with all the wealth and opulence of the Vatican, if Catholics already didn't feel like they were getting ripped off, then pointing it out is hopeless.

Re:I don't understand. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809971)

Let's see, why would it by unethical to use donated funds to over-pay for goods and services?

  Nope, I can't think of a single reason that an entity espousing the ethics and morality of caring for the poor, judging themselves by the way they treat the least of us or worshiping engraved images should use donations that make it possible for their management and staff to travel the world, keep one of the largest collections or art and operate with tax free status should be held accountable to a constituency that has no voting rights, no enforcement power and no reason, other than fear of the unknown, to operate ethically, either.

Nope, all those guys who dress like women, abuse children and lie about their personal habits should be left to their faith. And the clergy should be absolved as well.

You don't mess with these guys (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809703)

They do painful things to themselves constantly to purify their hearts, they look upon the Inquisition as "The good old days".

Will they hang the whistleblowers under a bridge (1)

radicimo (33693) | about 2 years ago | (#39809727)

Like they did to Roberto Calvi?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Calvi [wikipedia.org]

"Claims have been made that factors in Calvi's death were the Vatican Bank, Banco Ambrosiano's main shareholder; the Mafia, which may have used Banco Ambrosiano for money laundering; and the Propaganda Due or P2 clandestine Masonic Lodge."

Seriously, a legitimate conspiracy involving Opus Dei, the Mafia, and the Freemasons. The truth is stranger than fiction.

http://www.threemonkeysonline.com/who-killed-roberto-calvi/ [threemonkeysonline.com]

Yup (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809763)

Nobody ever expects the spanish inquisition
(LOL! my captcha was 'witches'!)

WWJHD? (1)

istartedi (132515) | about 2 years ago | (#39809767)

Who Would Jesus Hunt Down? 'nuff said.

Re:WWJHD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39810277)

Jesus wouldn't hunt the bankers, frauds and criminals in the Vatican, but he would make sure their hypocrisy was evident, just like the whistle blower that Opus Dei (light) seeks to muzzle.

When the Vatican Bank is held to the same standards that the Church preaches for its flock, we'll all be better off.

And the Catholic church continues it's lost ways (1)

Rob Nance (645531) | about 2 years ago | (#39809791)

The Catholic church has been lost for a long time, and this is just a sign it's never going to change. They changed the commandments to suit them for goodness sake! Changed the day of worship to suit them. Hid the bible from their followers because they didn't think their congregation could properly interpret the word of God (and also see the truth). Now in a long list of other atrocities, they banish someone for showing what's going on rather than commending them for helping identify a problem. Sorry if this comes across as an attack, but the Catholic church is scary. I think a lot of the people who are Catholic just don't know any better, and I feel for them.

Re:And the Catholic church continues it's lost way (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809931)

The Catholic church has been lost for a long time, and this is just a sign it's never going to change. They changed the commandments to suit them for goodness sake! Changed the day of worship to suit them. Hid the bible from their followers because they didn't think their congregation could properly interpret the word of God (and also see the truth). Now in a long list of other atrocities, they banish someone for showing what's going on rather than commending them for helping identify a problem.

Sorry if this comes across as an attack, but the Catholic church is scary. I think a lot of the people who are Catholic just don't know any better, and I feel for them.

"They changed the commandments to suit them for goodness sake!"
Uh, no.

"Changed the day of worship to suit them."
It is within the Church's authority to do so.

"Hid the bible from their followers because they didn't think their congregation could properly interpret the word of God (and also see the truth). "
uh, wrong again. The bible has always been freely available. The lack of copies in people's posession in the middle ages is due to the fact that a copy of the bible back then would cost $50k in today's money.

"Now in a long list of other atrocities"
Get your history from folks other than protestants.

Read:
http://www.amazon.com/Catholicism-Fundamentalism-Attack-Romanism-Christians/dp/0898701775/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335463591&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/The-Victory-Reason-Christianity-ebook/dp/B000SEV7OQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335463603&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Catholic-Church-Built-Western-Civilization/dp/0895260387/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335463617&sr=8-1

Sent to the USA as punishment? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809811)

a whistle-blower... was sent to the USA as punishment

Wow, that's harsh...

That scratching sound you hear... (3, Insightful)

sootman (158191) | about 2 years ago | (#39809821)

... is Dan Brown furiously scribbling notes for his next book.

Thanks, I had conspiracy theory for lunch. (1)

Fished (574624) | about 2 years ago | (#39809839)

Could the summary of this article have been any more anti-religious? How is this even "News for Nerds" or, for that matter, News?

Re:Thanks, I had conspiracy theory for lunch. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39810177)

Parent's a Troll --- general complaints with no elaboration. What's "anti-religious" about the summary? That Catholic scandals exist? That the lead investigator is old? And if I have to read How is this even "News for Nerds" one more time... I'll probably just ignore it, like we all have for the last decade. If you don't like the stories, ignore them, and if you don't like the site then go elsewhere.

Well they could hunt down the whistle blowers.... (1)

million_monkeys (2480792) | about 2 years ago | (#39809855)

... OR another option for stopping the leaks would be to clean up the corruption that people are revealing. WWJD?

I for one welcome ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39809973)

Cardinal Fang and his comfy cushions.

I find this quote funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39810233)

"was sent to the USA as punishment"
Times change I guess

The Catholic church used waterboarding! (1)

Megane (129182) | about 2 years ago | (#39810289)

See it right here! [youtube.com]

Torquemada [wikiquote.org] - How we doin', any converts today?
Guards- Not a one, nay nay nay.
Torquemada - We've flattened their fingers, we've branded their buns, nothing is working...send in the nuns!

Anyone with a lick of sense... (1)

Jawnn (445279) | about 2 years ago | (#39810317)

...would let this outfit provide "spiritual guidance" (much less, give money to them) why? The RCC has a centuries long history of misdeeds and corruption. Recent events seem to indicate that they've cleaned up their act only enough to no get themselves lynched. WTF, people? Couldn't you pick a slightly less evil church to provide answers to those questions you're to afraid to answer for yourself?
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