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Apple Planning To Build Private Restaurant

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the i-lunch-break dept.

Security 234

First time accepted submitter a90Tj2P7 writes "Apple is building a 21,468 square foot private restaurant in Cupertino so employees can talk shop over lunch without being overheard. Apple's director of real estate facilities, Dan Wisenhunt, stated that: 'We like to provide a level of security so that people and employees can feel comfortable talking about their business, their research and whatever project they're engineering without fear of competition sort of overhearing their conversations.'"

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House passes CISPA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39814879)

248-168. Now it will head to the Senate. Hopefully Obama vetoes it as threatened.

Re:House passes CISPA (-1, Offtopic)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 2 years ago | (#39814907)

It will just keep coming back.

Nothing will stop them.

Re:House passes CISPA (3, Funny)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | more than 2 years ago | (#39814989)

Oops looks like there is a bug, /., this post belongs to another story :-)

Re:House passes CISPA (1, Informative)

Truekaiser (724672) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816167)

if this wasn't a election year, he would pass it.

lol (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39814909)

>apple
>research

nice try

Re:lol (5, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815273)

In unrelated news, many Samsung employees are now trying to find a new place to eat.

Xerox - "damn, why didnt we think of that" (5, Insightful)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#39814919)

Adele Goldberg -- "actually, i did think of that, and told you guys, but you ignored me"

Consumer - "and that democratization of information between Xerox, Apple, and Microsoft brought technology to the masses and created the computer revolution of the 80s and 90s"

Apple CEO - "and we cant have that again, because the 80s and 90s were brutal for the entrenched interests. like Xerox"

Google - "no shit. thats why you shouldnt base your fucking business model on making information secret, when your entire history has been based on borrowing ideas from other people"

Re:Xerox - "damn, why didnt we think of that" (4, Insightful)

mad flyer (589291) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815073)

I'd rather have companies "stealing" information from each others (maybeee apple)
Rather than megacorporation systematically stockpiling private information from the whole planet population (Google Dark Empire of Doom)

Re:Xerox - "damn, why didnt we think of that" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815867)

You say that like those two practices have been mutually exclusive. History tells us otherwise.

Horde and steal where you can get away with it. Do it or die.

Re:Xerox - "damn, why didnt we think of that" (4, Insightful)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815093)

Except that all of google's algorithms that their business depends on are secret

Maybe google should release all their secrets as well?

ok so i did epic fail at the end (1)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815145)

but i think im mostly kind of right.

Re:Xerox - "damn, why didnt we think of that" (4, Insightful)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815239)

Funny, considering the algorithm most important to them - PageRank - is described publicly in a patent [uspto.gov] . Not to mention that it doesn't even belong to Google, but to Stanford University (since it was developed by Page and Brin as a research project).

Re:Xerox - "damn, why didnt we think of that" (4, Interesting)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815279)

Except that all of google's algorithms that their business depends on are secret

Maybe google should release all their secrets as well?

From a competition standpoint: It doesn't matter now. Google could release every secret in their search algorithm, and no competitor would be able to compete because it's the collected data that's important. Without the search data, the algorithm is near useless -- You'd be starting from scratch and they have how many years of a head start?

From a user standpoint -- I sure as hell hope they don't release their algorithms. Do you like link-bait and search spam clouding your search results? I don't. As long as they disclose what information they collect, then it's fine with me. Sure people can figure out how to game the system, but the algorithms can also be changed behind the scenes.

To those who argue the "security through obscurity is no security" fallacy: What about 256 bits of obscurity? What about 512 bits of obscurity? 1024? 2048? Our whole security infrastructure is built on obscurity, tiny obscure secrets of the 1's and 0's -- Individually: not secure; All chained together: Obscurity is Very Secure. If the secret key isn't "obscured" in PKI, it would have no security at all.

Re:Xerox - "damn, why didnt we think of that" (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816011)

Rim - "Nuts!!"

I hope (4, Funny)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | more than 2 years ago | (#39814921)

I hope they serve more than just apples.

Re:I hope (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815075)

My guess is it'll be a mix of Japanese inspired cuisine (borderline overly-santized pretty food) and yippie (yuppie+hippie) food. I'm kidding about that, but really this sounds depressing to me. Apple employees are known for not being allowed to have lives -- you'll find plenty of Google, Facebook, and other South Bay company employees living in San Francisco, but not Apple employees -- and this is just part of that isolated lifestyle. I used to want to work there, but there are much better options for employers that give you that type of pedigree on your resume.

We recognize... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39814923)

...that we are just better than everyone else.

The Good Earth (1)

yoctology (2622527) | more than 2 years ago | (#39814937)

I remember when everyone was in Bandley 3, you could just sit at the local The Good Earth restaurant and hear all kinds of chatter.

Sssh. don't tell them about cell phones or tablets (5, Funny)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 2 years ago | (#39814939)

If they don't know those have microphones and cameras, they won't realize security is a waste of time.

or that you can hear everything just by the vibrations off of the windows.

be vewwy vewwy quiet, I'm hunting trilobytes.

Sounds like self-aggrandization (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39814941)

I doubt that "so our employees can talk shop without the competition overhearing us" is their #1 reason. If it is, that's pretty arrogant.

I don't care if Apple makes all the "new hot things" that consumers are flocking to get, there's really not that much secret in what they do, and there's nothing that indicates that they have any sort of precious upper hand when it comes to designing products. Any other company could do what they do. Most of their magic is simply marketing and/or blind loyalty.

Like organized religion or politics.

-flerp

Re:Sounds like self-aggrandization (3, Insightful)

gstrickler (920733) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815589)

Ah, yes. Blind loyalty and marketing. This explains why approaching 50% of their customers have never owned an Apple product before. Why they have the largest digital music download store, the best selling digital music player, the best selling cell phone, the highest customer satisfaction rating, and the best profit margins in the industry.

Whatever kool-aid you're drinking is working.

Re:Sounds like self-aggrandization (0)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815905)

Actually, that could be quite a valid explanation. Many companies do what Apple does, and do it even better in many cases. Are you sure your eyes are working okay? I've herd there's a nasty case of blind loyalty going around.

Re:Sounds like self-aggrandization (4, Insightful)

Karlt1 (231423) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816095)

Many companies do what Apple does, and do it even better in many cases

"Doing it better" in business means more profitably or at least with better margins. Which company is "doing it better than Apple"?

Re:Sounds like self-aggrandization (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816129)

Clearly worked on you.

Re:Sounds like self-aggrandization (0)

Shavano (2541114) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816133)

Best selling digital music player -- Marketing.
Best selling cell phone -- Marketing.
Best profit margins -- Marketing.
Largest digital music download store -- Marketing.

You were saying?

Chatter between member of different teams at Apple (1)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815969)

I doubt that "so our employees can talk shop without the competition overhearing us" is their #1 reason.

Your skepticism is appropriate. Apple doesn't only worry about chatter between employees and non-employees. They also worry about chatter between members of different teams within Apple. Employees working on Macs may not know anything more about that new iPhone being developed than the public.

Its been a while since my last visit to Apple but I recall signs on the wall at the cafeteria on Apple's main campus that warned employees not to chat about their work due to fears of being overheard. Again, this is the cafeteria on the main campus, in a secure building, available only to employees and invited visitors that have signed NDAs.

Re:Sounds like self-aggrandization (2)

Sancho (17056) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815989)

Any other company could do what they do.

You'd think that they would, then. It seems to be profitable.

Re:Sounds like self-aggrandization (1)

Karlt1 (231423) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816083)

Any other company could do what they do. Most of their magic is simply marketing and/or blind loyalty.

If that's true, that any other company can do what they do, then why is every single phone manufacturer besides Apple and Samsung struggling? (i.e. Motorola, HTC, LG, Sony-Ericson, Nokia, and RIM?)

Why is the PC manufacturer that sells the most computers thinking about getting rid of their PC division?

I've heard of this before... (5, Funny)

jd2112 (1535857) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816311)

Most larger companies have one of these. It's called a cafeteria.

Next up... (5, Insightful)

poity (465672) | more than 2 years ago | (#39814943)

employee dorms to prevent honey trap operations.

Re:Next up... (3, Interesting)

siddesu (698447) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815021)

And next - entry and exit permits will be required. Been there, but it was a whole government in charge.

Re:Next up... (1)

ricera10 (932325) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815547)

Aren't they supposedly building some with their future campus in Texas?

If it's anything like the rest of their products.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39814979)

Soon enough, employees will have to eat there..

Will they get the same variety there? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39814983)

I always see Apple employees in the nearby Panera, Boulanger, Aqui, Chipotle and other nearby restaurants. I think these employees still want to get out of work and experience some lunch variety just as I do.

Re:Will they get the same variety there? (1, Flamebait)

siddesu (698447) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815039)

How do you tell them apart from the crowd, do they have a yellow apple stitched to their overcoats or something?

Re:Will they get the same variety there? (0)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815281)

Penalty! Illegal Holocaust metaphor! Advantage AC, score is 1-0!

Re:Will they get the same variety there? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815439)

On the other hand, what if it's Hester Prynne metaphor? I'd say advantage Mr S...

Re:Will they get the same variety there? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815447)

The badges that they all wear with Apple symbols kinda gives them away.

Re:Will they get the same variety there? (1)

flimflammer (956759) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816179)

All you have to do is recognize an apple security badge one time and suddenly you'll be able to recognize apple employees at large since most people do not put their badges away. It always easy to tell who works at Qualcomm, fellow employees at SCEA, etc, while eating at the local food court over here.

Re:Will they get the same variety there? (1)

Dahamma (304068) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815353)

Pretty sure it's not hard to start a restaurant that beats a bunch of mega-chain sandwich shops and burrito joints. And seriously, you consider the above options "variety"? You need to seriously expand your lunch selection.

Jeez, even the Google cafeteria has 10x the "variety" of those places, and Apple passed Google in absurd cash flow a while ago...

Re:Will they get the same variety there? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815403)

He means experience more than one restaurant's menu you fucking dolt. By definition that is variety.

Even if Apple's new restaurant manages to offer a wide selection of choices, I don't see it replacing the experience and uniqueness of every restaurant that is out there.

Re:Will they get the same variety there? (1)

Majkow (604785) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815673)

but everything will be branded with the apple logo that alone guarantees it to be a better and enjoyable user experience for everyone. just enter your appleid when you enter and your bill will be deducted from your itunes account. need to top up. our tabletops are ipads.

Re:Will they get the same variety there? (1)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815421)

Pretty sure it's not hard to start a restaurant that beats a bunch of mega-chain sandwich shops and burrito joints. And seriously, you consider the above options "variety"? You need to seriously expand your lunch selection.

Jeez, even the Google cafeteria has 10x the "variety" of those places, and Apple passed Google in absurd cash flow a while ago...

Google's cafeterias have more variety than any one of those megachains, but the point was that employees have a choice between thousands of nearby restaurants that collectively have far more variety than a central cafeteria. Furthermore, in terms of quality I think Google's cafeterias are on par with a place like subway and well behind halfway decent places like Panera and Chipotle, not to mention the really good local restaurants.

Employees can talk without being overheard... (5, Funny)

DWMorse (1816016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39814991)

And lose iPhone prototypes without being publicly embarrassed.

Re:Employees can talk without being overheard... (1)

Barbara, not Barbie (721478) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815783)

And lose iPhone prototypes without being publicly embarrassed.

No - that's what they'll open their first private "genius bar" for.

Will it have a built in sports bar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815007)

It makes you wonder if Apple is building this restaurant just so it can have a place where employees can lose their prototypes where Apple doesn't have to worry about posing as police officers to get them back...

Re:Will it have a built in sports bar (1)

reub2000 (705806) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815575)

After it happened repeatedly, didn't everyone come to the conclusion that the whole thing was a publicity stunt?

Re:Will it have a built in sports bar (1)

flimflammer (956759) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816289)

Have a source for that? I don't recall that.

Whatever will they call it? (1)

macraig (621737) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815019)

Cue the orchard jokes in 3...2...1....

Re:Whatever will they call it? (5, Funny)

wiedzmin (1269816) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815261)

Applebee's

Re:Whatever will they call it? (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815437)

It's quite close to the Apple offices, so you can tell the co-workers the restaurant is just Outback!

Re:Whatever will they call it? (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815921)

And then they'll sue Applebees for using the name (I'll assume this is a joke, although I should probably check to see if this has actually happened)

Re:Whatever will they call it? (1)

slew (2918) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815485)

iRestaurant [yelp.com]

A nearby (not so good) chinese restaurant just down the street with that name in cupertino closed last year.

Who knows, maybe they got a buyout deal that they couldn't refuse ;^)

Re:Whatever will they call it? (2, Funny)

mschaffer (97223) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815891)

How about "Walled Garden"?

Re:Whatever will they call it? (1)

macraig (621737) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816213)

Disturbingly apropos, both from the described purpose of the restaurant AND the company mindset in general....

Next logical step (1)

Grayhand (2610049) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815023)

Taking a nod from their Chinese counterparts wouldn't dormitories be the next step? If workers don't leave except for vacations wouldn't it limit people leaving prototypes in restaurants and other issues that arise?

Re:Next logical step (1)

wiedzmin (1269816) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815269)

limit people leaving prototypes in restaurants

Right, and start spending money on actual marketing campaigns? No way.

Thanks! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815051)

Now I just have to bug/record one place to get all the industrial espionage I need!

What's new? (5, Insightful)

Snowgen (586732) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815053)

I've worked for big companies, and for startups. I have to say that on-campus dining facilities are pretty standard for big companies. We normally call them "cafeterias" but if you want to call it a restaurant knock yourself out.

Not to mention that Google's in-house chefs are a thing of legend. I really don't see what's news here.

Re:What's new? (4, Insightful)

Un pobre guey (593801) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815633)

I can't believe I had to scroll down this far before someone pointed this out. "Apple to set up an employee cafeteria" is some kind of news item? What about "Apple adds 25 spaces to parking lot D," or "Apple to install new urinals on the fourth floor." Remind me why we should give a crap about this.

Re:What's new? (5, Funny)

Greystripe (1985692) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816479)

Well if it's urinals I'd think they'd really want you to not give a crap.

No big deal (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815097)

I really think this is no big deal. My office has a cafeteria, and the building is "secured". It's been that way since it was built in the 80's. I realize this place will probably have better food and might be down the street but I think it's the same basic concept.

Re:No big deal (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815363)

I hear prisons have cafeterias too, and the building is "secured" too boot!

Sounds like those visits to Foxcon taught them a thing or two.

They've run out of space...and this is news? (5, Interesting)

Elfboy (144703) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815143)

Apple has a wonderful cafeteria and a seriously epic variety of food, they are just out of space (food stations are being set up outside etc...). Makes perfect sense for them to house a larger "restaurant" (aka cafeteria) so employees don't have to head out to the local BJ's. Why is this being spun as an OMG Apple is too wealthy and splurging. Yahoo and others have freaking DMV and hairstyling services for employees (okay maybe Yahoo is not the best example here....)

Surprised they had not done this earlier (2)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815159)

Seriously, many of the reasons for building in-house cafes was to allow those kinds of discussions to occur. Yet, many conversations occur outside in other restaurants. As such, they should have the dining room divided into multiple sections so that it is possible to have conversation with outsiders, but not having others listening in.

Also, they should seriously consider the idea of having multiple kitchens in it, and allow new chefs that come up with new concepts test it out there and then fund them for other restaurants if it is liked.

Re:Surprised they had not done this earlier (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815515)

Seriously, many of the reasons for building in-house cafes was to allow those kinds of discussions to occur.

The main reason is Silicon Valley is congested suburban sprawl and going out for lunch means an employee is away from his desk for 60-90 minutes.

Don't be absurd. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815697)

While I'll agree with the sentiment, the numbers and rationale is a bit exaggerated. One of the great things about the area is the walkability, and food can often be found, consumed and the individual returned within half the time you quoted.

Re:Don't be absurd. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815837)

Walkability? Cupertino? You must be confused.

Re:Surprised they had not done this earlier (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815713)

In house cafes did not start in SV. It started in manufacturing plants that were combined with engineers. And there was plenty of times when they did not want discussions out of house, though the ability to save time was there.

Re:Surprised they had not done this earlier (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815755)

They already have one on the main campus. It's too small and not a convenient walking destination from many of the satellite buildings, and so people from the satellite buildings rarely use it.

Naming lawsuit ensues (1)

wiedzmin (1269816) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815249)

Applebee's is in trouble.

Just like the mob! (1)

l00sr (266426) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815265)

n/t

Wait, wait, how is this innovation? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815267)

My company has had this thing called a MESS HALL for decades. In fact, I'm pretty sure they prepared all the food in the first year, and are just thawing it out now.

And you know if the Army is doing something, then everybody else has had it for years.

Sounds Familiar (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815323)

'We like to provide a level of security so that people and employees can feel comfortable...'

Sounds like a pronouncement from the Department of Homeland Security.

Slashdot (1)

ThePeices (635180) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815385)

Slashdot. News for nerds. Stuff that matters.

and so it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815405)

begins - welcome to the new future, as spawned in Silicon Valley, where all workers will soon find themselves ensconced, enslaved, and incarcerated!

I wouldn't eat there anyway. (1)

nblender (741424) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815427)

I work for a company that has an on-site restaurant/cafeteria... The food is fine and is subsidized by the company... But most people don't eat there because, really, there's only a subset of my co-workers that I feel like talking to at lunch. The rest, I don't really want to socialize with. On the one or two occasions where I've eaten at the cafeteria, there's always someone that sits down and wants to talk to me that frankly, I would rather not talk to... So we go out for lunch every day, somewhere different.. We're careful about what we discuss and usually, it's not about work anyway.

Cafeteria (0, Troll)

shoehornjob (1632387) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815459)

I've heard of this place where you can go to talk shop without fear of being overheard. They call it a cafeteria. Only Apple is arrogant enough to call it a private restaurant.

Re:Cafeteria (1)

PrescriptionWarning (932687) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815521)

No joke, even IBM has had them on site for decades

Re:Cafeteria (0)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815935)

Yes, but like so many things, it's far more news-worthy when Apple invents it.

Re:Cafeteria (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815613)

Only a slashtard is arrogant enough to call Apple arrogant for calling it a private restaurant when the only source to use that term was friggin' CNet. It's an addition to the Apple campus containing a cafeteria, lounge, and meeting rooms.

Re:Cafeteria (4, Informative)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815965)

Um no. The author of the article called it a private restaurant. No one from Apple called it that. The author also says that's the commission calls it but they might have used "dining facility". From the article the author also says:

The facility will have two stories, meetings rooms, lounge areas, conference rooms, storage lockers, an underground parking lot, and, yes, even restrooms.

It doesn't sound like it's just a restaurant or cafeteria but a building annex of some sort.

Re:Cafeteria (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816243)

It's a cafeteria, How can you run off at the mouth without doing a little research? eg http://www.mercurynews.com/cupertino/ci_20481367/apple-gets-green-light-new-21-468-square [mercurynews.com] or http://www.macrumors.com/2012/04/26/apple-building-new-cafeteria-in-cupertino-to-enhance-security-for-satellite-campus-workers/ [macrumors.com] Most reporters are reporting it as a cafeteria.

Times are a changin' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815517)

Back in my day, the place that your work place provides food was called a cafeteria .. not a private restaurant. Does Apple call their vending machines 'food carts' too?

Will they serve apples? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815593)

Mmm... iDumpling.

iCafeteria (0)

ugen (93902) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815651)

And so Apple reinvented the corporate cafeteria. Strange, you'd think a company of their size would have one already.

Re:iCafeteria (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815987)

They do have one. I'm guessing Apple is running out of space and would like to add an annex and not some nefarious plot. But their mothership new HQ hasn't been built yet. From the article:

The facility will have two stories, meetings rooms, lounge areas, conference rooms, storage lockers, an underground parking lot, and, yes, even restrooms.

This sounds odd... (1)

KrazyDave (2559307) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815699)

This strikes me as something that Cook would do to "seem" Jobsian, but not quite getting the point or overall Apple paradigm quite right.

Private restaurant? (1, Interesting)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815781)

Back'in my day we called these things Cafeterias.

If they add condos.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39815875)

Apple could call the campus at Cupretino the iCompound.

Finally (1)

rush,overlord,rush! (1995452) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815927)

They are selling real apples. Are they also bitten?

Next Apple sues other chefs and restaurants (1)

Cito (1725214) | more than 2 years ago | (#39815977)

For copyright infringing recipes...

Apple sues pirate chefs for replicating Apple's copyrighted recipes.

Next Apple sues grandmothers for piracy for baking Apple trademarked chocolate chip cookies :P

US Secret Service Plans to Build Own Strip Club (2)

theodp (442580) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816049)

Problem [wsj.com] solved, declares DHS Chief Janet Napolitano.

so would lunch there be mandatory? (2)

marxz (971164) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816107)

Not surprise, indeed kind of surprised it's 1: not already the case, 2: it would raise any interest external to the enterprise concerned, In fact in house restaurants or cafes (or for the down market canteens) are pretty much De jure for most of the large research organisations I've worked for. Actually one good thing about them is it encourages conversation between areas that would normally not have communications beyond hierarchical memo passing and divisional manager meetings so, for a not entirely hypothetical example - people from the material sciences area end up talking over lunch to people from the electronic engineering area and people from the remote sensing area and so a project is born to build more resistant tidal sensors that don't need to be replaced every 3 or 4 months.

Diner food? (0)

WillyWanker (1502057) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816119)

I'm betting they'll take cheap diner food, put it on fancy plates, and charge 3x more for it. Amirite?

Pie Anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816143)

I wondered where I can get some really good Apple Pie!

The Menu (2, Funny)

Renderer of Evil (604742) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816181)

1. Walled Garden Salad
2. Beleaguered Sea Bass
3. ThaiPad

So how did this conversation go? (2)

istartedi (132515) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816349)

Manager: We're building a fancy new cafeteria, just like Google and a lot of other Si Valley companies.

Assistant: Very good sir. Shall I alert the media?

That's not security (1)

xs650 (741277) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816405)

Letting people talk about secure topics while in a cafeteria that all employees are allowed in isn't security.

Someday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816473)

I'm sure they'll get around to providing security for their customers someday

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