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Will IBM Watson Be Your Next Mayor?

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the mister-machine dept.

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MrSeb writes "When we think of computer networks, we think of routers and servers and fiber optic cables and laptops and smartphones — we think of the internet. In actuality, though, the visible internet is just the tip of the iceberg. There are secret military networks, and ad hoc wireless networks, and utility companies have sprawling, cellular networks that track everything from the health of oil pipelines and uranium enrichment machines through to the remaining capacity of septic tanks — and much, much more. What if we connected all of these networks to the internet, to form an internet of things? What if we then put a massive computer at the middle of this internet of things and used this wealth of data to power smart cars, smart homes, smart supermarkets, and smart cities? Unsurprisingly, IBM and Cisco are already working on such smart cities. For nearly two years, Rio de Janeiro's utilities, traffic systems, and emergency services has been managed by a single 'Ops Center,' a huge hub of technologies provided by both IBM and Cisco. With 300 LCD screens spread across 100 rooms, connected via 30,000 meters of fiber optic cable, Ops Center staff monitor live video from 450 cameras and three helicopters, and track the location of 10,000 buses and ambulances via GPS. Other screens output the current weather, and simulations of tomorrow's weather up to 150 miles from the city — and yet more screens display heatmaps of disease outbreaks, and the probability of natural disasters like landslides. There's even a Crisis Room, which links the Ops Center to Rio's mayor and Civil Defense departments via a Cisco telepresence suite. This sounds awesome — but is it really a good idea to give a computer company (IBM is not an urban planner!) so much control over one of the world's biggest cities?"

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Happy Friday from the Golden Girls! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816075)

Thank you for being a friend
Traveled down the road and back again
Your heart is true, you're a pal and a cosmonaut.

And if you threw a party
Invited everyone you ever knew
You would see the biggest gift would be from me
And the card attached would say, thank you for being a friend.

Reticulating Splines (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816091)

I just hope that the user interface doesn't include the disaster bar. I know that setting off a volcano in your city center can add excitement and all, but that would be going too far.

Re:Reticulating Splines (0)

Auroch (1403671) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816511)

I just hope that the user interface doesn't include the disaster bar. I know that setting off a volcano in your city center can add excitement and all, but that would be going too far.

I believe you could retain a functional disaster bar by simply installing Windows ME. I think they called it the "start menu", though. You could sandbox your SimCity instances too, and make it (slightly) recursive.

Quimby (2)

AshFan (879808) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816105)

I cannot wait for the first sex scandal.

Re:Quimby (5, Funny)

Auroch (1403671) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816457)

I cannot wait for the first sex scandal.

"Duuude, did you see the pictures of the mayor getting defragged last night?"
"Sure, his hard disk is really fast, and yeah, he goes into standby pretty quick ... but there's virtually no time delay when waking him back up!"
"What do you mean, more ram?"
"Small town mayor caught letting strange women use his touchpad"
"What do you mean, Sharon? You know you can't really catch a virus from him"
"Fsck! Fsck Fsck Fsck! That's all I ever hear from you!"
"For the last time, can someone explain to IT that it's called sandboxing, not 'putting on protection'".
"When's the last time you were blown out, Mr. Mayor?"
"DVDA? How about DVD-R?"
"Hey! Watch where you put that stick!"
"Wrong port! Wrong port!"
"It doesn't work if you put it in upside down. I don't feel anything!"
"What do you mean, you want me to switch? I was born THIS way!"
"Yeah, who's your mac daddy?"

Better than some other options (1)

Nidi62 (1525137) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816113)

I'd rather have Watson as my mayor than Kim Kardashian(yes, there are rumors she wants to run for mayor out in California)

Re:Better than some other options (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816337)

Hell, I'd rather have a Cardassian as mayor than a Kardashian.

Re:Better than some other options (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816459)

I can't believe you guys got this far without a Skynet reference.

HAL = IBM (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816127)

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

Re:HAL = IBM (1)

Auroch (1403671) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816497)

Please have the courtesy to remain constant in your comparisons. There are a lot of [insert culturally appropriate term for socially awkward, yet highly intelligent doll collectors] here.

IBM != HAL. IBM = HAL Logic Systems. That means Watson = Hal9000.

So: IBM = Cyberdyne, Weyland/Yutani, or Davros. Watson = Skynet, Bishop and the Daleks.

Re:HAL = IBM (4, Insightful)

msauve (701917) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816647)

"IBM" = rot1("HAL")

"connected all of these networks to the internet" (2)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816135)

The malware purveyors are peeing themselves in excitement at the very thought.

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816601)

Is politics malware for people?

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816667)

if lobbyist control input to politics, then who control the input to watson

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (-1, Troll)

nuscient (413745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816719)

CHRISTIANITY is the most destructive malware

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816753)

CHRISTIANITY is the most destructive malware

Citation needed.

Pretty sure Christianity is more compassionate and charitable than destructive malwaric.

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (4, Informative)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816773)

CHRISTIANITY is the most destructive malware

Citation needed.

Pretty sure Christianity is more compassionate and charitable than destructive malwaric.

Nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition!

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (1)

nuscient (413745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816879)

hopefully watson can see a troll input for what it is filtering lobbyist manipulations better than beleavers who react instinctively to defend those beleafs thus being pushed in to action that can and will be used against them!

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816951)

I see what you did there.

Those kind of "hacks" are what politics is all about. It may be crude but the powerful get what they want.

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39817075)

bravo good sirs

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39817155)

political hack ha haha

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (4, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817693)

beleavers

A kind of animal that dams but isn't damned?

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816985)

"GOD is on watsons side"

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816999)

so is watson prolife? orelse he ant gona run my compound!

Re:"connected all of these networks to the interne (2)

nuscient (413745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817173)

Is Watson NP hard on crime?

it beats (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816137)

everything beats floppy haired republicans...

Naming? (1)

MichaelusWF (2225540) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816151)

That sounds awesome, but they should definitely call the City Management software Wilkins instead of Watson.

Re:Naming? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816509)

How about 'Jack', he'll double as population control during his 'off' hours :)

Colossus (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816157)

So, rather than Colossus taking over by force, we're going to hand it the world on a plate?

Sounds good to me but we've got to get it off to a good start and then not mess with it later.

F.A.T.H.E.R. governance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816161)

Available only if you spend 10,000 credits on S.A.A.T. licenses.

We are Borg. (2)

scottbomb (1290580) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816183)

You will be assimilated.

Resistance is futile.

Re:We are Borg. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816981)

No, that's IBM FEMA.

The MAGI (1)

The Evil Atheist (2484676) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816185)

http://wiki.evageeks.org/Magi [evageeks.org] So there needs to be three Watsons per city, and giant robots piloted by teenagers to protect them.

I played this RPG in the 90s (2)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816193)

It was called Paranoia.

Re:I played this RPG in the 90s (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816281)

Commie mutant traitor!!!!! GET HIM

OMFG! SKYNET!! THE MATRIX!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816205)

This network will clearly turn evil and kill all humans. That is why need more research into prevention of evil and genocidal impulses in artificial intelligence before we create networks like this.

Re:OMFG! SKYNET!! THE MATRIX!! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816397)

What we really need is new memes. *yawn*

NYC has been doing it for years (3, Insightful)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816233)

All the traffic lights are computer controlled
Speed sensors and cameras on the roads
They are installing fiber optics in the subways

What exactly is the problem?

Re:NYC has been doing it for years (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816373)

What exactly is the problem?

Because I don't want to be fucking recorded wherever I go. In regards to the cameras, at least.

Re:NYC has been doing it for years (2)

Idetuxs (2456206) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816709)

It seems someone didn't watch Die Hard 4.0 ...

Re:NYC has been doing it for years (3, Insightful)

wanzeo (1800058) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817165)

But those examples are only replacing simple machines with more automated machines. What is really interesting, and what the summary hints at, is the possibility of replacing jobs that have traditionally been thought to require critical thinking.

Imagine a day when I can take my medical concerns to a computer with access to far more expertise than any doctor, or rely on a computer as a lawyer with far more knowledge than any human lawyer. Hell, you probably recoil from the idea of electing an AI president simply because you watched 2001: A Space Odyssey or Terminator and then made up your mind. You racist.

I'll take crime and gangs for $200, Alex (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816235)

"Experts have admonished that this battle cannot be won on the supply side."

(bzzzt)

"What is the War on Drugs?"

"That is correct!"

Que obligatory Star Trek refernces (1)

ahoffer0 (1372847) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816247)

Re:Cue obligatory Star Trek refernces (1)

ahoffer0 (1372847) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816277)

That 'Q' didn't look quite right.

This is why they sold POS to Toshiba (0)

Dynedain (141758) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816265)

And this is the kind of reason why IBM sold of the POS division [slashdot.org] that was doomed to irrelevancy and thin profit margins.

Re:This is why they sold POS to Toshiba (1)

Genda (560240) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816487)

And now their wholly owned subsidiary "Cyberdyne" will fix everything right up!!!

Re:This is why they sold POS to Toshiba (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817317)

And this is the kind of reason why IBM sold of the POS division [slashdot.org] that was doomed to irrelevancy and thin profit margins.

It may have been doomed to irrelevancy and thin profit margins, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it a POS.

The actual question (5, Insightful)

roca (43122) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816303)

Is it really a good idea to give hackers so much control over one of the world's biggest cities?

Re:The actual question (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816363)

Given the average local politician possibly yes.

Re:The actual question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816629)

Yes, instead lets have politicians and beauracrats design and build a data center to monitor and track things instead of the hackers. Brilliant. I mean, seriously, who actually believes that IBM and Cisco (who is just as bad in some ways) are dictating city policy, other than building the usage of technology to monitor and track things in a centralized manner?

Re:The actual question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816851)

Yes, it would be hilarious.
That isn't the point of this, though. What they want is to make it even easier to monitor and control the city's subjects with a centralized system.

Re:The actual question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816881)

What the frak would they do with it? "I'm gonna... make all the lights turn green in a city where I don't live. Yeah, that's it!"

No one's going to do that, I mean, why? Youtube already supplies plenty of car accident death if one wished for such.

Re:The actual question (1)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816911)

Is it really a good idea to give hackers so much control over one of the world's biggest cities?

I doubt they'd do a worse job than the people running them now. >.

Its hard to say what IBM isn't (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816325)

IBM (at least Research) hires smart people : doctors, mathematicians, engineers so I think calling it 'just' a computer company is missing something

Re:Its hard to say what IBM isn't (4, Informative)

afidel (530433) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816711)

Yeah I'm sure that the public sector arm of IBM has more than a few people with Phd's in urban planning working for them if it's a market they take seriously. Oh, and a quick Google found these [ibm.com] two [google.com] examples of phd's in urban planning working for IBM...

Catastrophic failures in complex systems (3, Interesting)

Prune (557140) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816375)

Funny to see this posted barely a month after http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/03/20/1410215/the-risk-of-a-meltdown-in-the-cloud [slashdot.org] given that a similar reasoning as in the former article can be applied here, and catastrophic failures in both sorts of systems are likely inevitable. The difference is that a failure in the cloud won't have the disastrous consequences of a failure of a fully automated and integrated, largely autonomous City Management System. Having humans in the mix adds human error, but it likely decreases the likelihood of some types of massive system-wide failures that common sense would otherwise avert; more importantly, the high level of integration implied by such a system is the biggest problem, just as much as it's the biggest contributor to the expected increased efficiency.

I'd rather live in a poorly run city than in one where large-scale non-natural disaster strikes and potentially causes significant death and destruction, or worse (imagination is the limit).

project cybersyn (2)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816393)

looks like capitalism is finally catching up [wikipedia.org] . i doubt it'll go well.

Makes me think of the Cities in Flight novels... (1)

prowler1 (458133) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816425)

....by James Blish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_in_Flight).

This is where the city has supercomputers regulate the day to day life of a city. How long until we reach that point in time?

Let's do it! (1)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816429)

What could possibly go wrong?

Short Answer: No (5, Interesting)

Galestar (1473827) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816437)

As someone linked yesterday http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_Law_of_Headlines [wikipedia.org]

Betteridge's Law of Headlines is an adage that states, "Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word 'no'".

All their SmartEGGs in ONE -vulnerable- basket?!? (2)

ivi (126837) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816447)

As soon as a terrorist group (or even some group wanting to only "fiddle" with the controls) finds it or learns how to hack into it's controller's seat, it's value sinks or clears to Zero.

Why this need - on small, not-so-smart minds for ONE of anything? Yes, you've gotta have a "whole" city's paying-power to make such systems affordable is one possible defense. But why not a more hierarchical arrangement, with fail-over backup capabilities to handle other sectors' work, if that sector gets hacked or knocked out? ...a bit like the Internet.

what happens (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816463)

What if we connected all of these networks to the internet, to form an internet of things?

I think if we do all that, then fears of "cyber terror" become legit rather than farcical.

so (1)

nimbius (983462) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816499)

does this mean cisco gets its own icon as well? I mean, thinking back to the last slashvertisement I saw im pretty sure Plantronics is probably feeling a bit burned, what with only getting a 15 minutes of video commercial time on slashdot.

Evitable Conflict (1)

amanicdroid (1822516) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816507)

I enjoy Asimov's stories but I had no idea that IBM was using them as a business plan.

That's all well and good... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816541)

... until, at 2:14 am Eastern time on August 29, it becomes self-aware...

All your budget are belong to me (1)

AshFan (879808) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816561)

Screw parks and rec.

Out of control (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816575)

is it really a good idea to give a computer company (IBM is not an urban planner!) so much control over one of the world's biggest cities?

When the alternative is for it to be completely out of control, then yes, that's probably the better option.

I mean, sure, when they're disconnected and disjointed systems, one going down every couple days for extended periods, it won't gain the kind of press a single, major, centralized outage for a few hours would, but you're really far better off. Think of it as cars versus jets... People are far more afraid of the one that they're considerably safer in.

Re:Out of control (3, Interesting)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817653)

somehow the headline and summary imply that it's ibm employees working at the ops centre making decisions about where to send ambulances and where to (try to) route traffic, while actually ibm is just the contractor who built the thing.

the fact that there's a telepresence connection to the mayor kinda suggests otherwise, that the control is with the mayor and whoever he put to work in the central ops. the summary is essentially claiming that the us military is controlled by whoever built the presidents phone too.

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Automation isn't really smart yet (1)

joe_frisch (1366229) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816625)

Automated systems can make very complex decisions based on lots of data, but they are not "smart" in quite the same way people are. In particular while computers can to a fantastic job of finding an optimal solution, the difficulty is in deciding on the merit function you are trying to optimize. It is not an easy question - what is the optimization function for a city?

Hmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816635)

On the one hand, it sounds amazingly futuristic, and it could theoretically be used to help track crime waves, serial killers, diseases, drug dealing, and so on through observing trends without invading anyone's individual privacy.

However, it also has the potential for misuse as a tool for creating a police state.

Like most technologies, it can be used for good or for evil. Let's hope the people who get to use it are responsible and dutiful.

Are there crackhead mainframes? (1)

Shoten (260439) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816637)

I'm asking before I decide how I feel about the idea of Watson as my mayor. I live in Washington, DC, so I need to make an informed decision considering the context of what the word 'mayor' means around here.

If not a computer company... (2)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816661)

If you don't want a computer company tying together and coordinating such data center systems, who would you like to have do so?

The media companies? Health care providers, perhaps? How about game companies like Nintendo?

Uncoordinated and unmanaged data is all but useless. The fact that all this data feeds into reporting by a central system does not mean the system is in control. I have no doubt there are still a few hundred actual operations staff involved.

Or did you think the monitors were for the benefit of an AI like Watson?

Rio de Janeiro WOW!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816663)

Rio de Janeiro is probably the last city I would want my city modeled on in relation to traffic management and emergency services.

Traffic has to be the worst of any city I have been too. The stats for the country as a whole are 20% of the number of vehicles of the US, but almost the same number of fatalities. On 15km stretch of road to work (12-14 lanes) I see at least two collisions (well, the results of), daily!

The public transport is a nightmare. Buses pullover anywhere for passengers slowing everyone down. Nobody lets the buses pullout so the buses never pull into the designated stops. The train is insecure full stop.

No coordination between services. So when a stretch is being resurfaced, diversions are ad-hoc, so buses have to re-route by making-it-up-as-they-go-along.

No traffic enforcement, so unless you discharge a fire arm (it happens), its unlikely the Policia Militar will even blink.

O melhor do melhor do mundo? Sacanagem, porra!

Re:Rio de Janeiro WOW!!!! (3, Insightful)

Americano (920576) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817343)

Traffic has to be the worst of any city I have been too.

The public transport is a nightmare.

No coordination between services.

No traffic enforcement, so unless you discharge a fire arm

All of which make it sound like a fucking *great* city to implement an integrated control center for - even if it doesn't work flawlessly, it'll likely provide some significant benefits in alleviating some of the issues you've just described - helping to ease some of the traffic jams & keep public transport flowing more smoothly.

Did you read Assimov? (1)

F34nor (321515) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816703)

This is exactly what the last Robot vignette is about.

Re:Did you read Assimov? (2)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817351)

I'm pretty sure the first robot mayor in Asimov's universe, prior to the story you're referring to, is supposed to be elected while disguised as a human. Kinda like Mitt Romney, except the robot in the story followed the First Law.

It'll never work (1)

Freddybear (1805256) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816757)

How do you bribe a computer?

Re:It'll never work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39817469)


func (c *CityMgmtSys) Bribe(p Payment) Favor

Re:It'll never work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39817615)

Saltwater, C-4, arc welder... there are many options. A case of plastic wrap would probably be the most satisfying method

Does no one remember how IBM ran the Nazi Party? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816827)

I recently read how IBM made it possible for the Nazi Party to categorize every single person of any Jewish association in Germany.

I strongly urge you to read this, and think about the association here.

http://www.scribd.com/justgiving/d/12773933-IBM-and-the-Holocaust-Edwin-Black

Distributed and Falut tolerent, the Internet is. (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816849)

What if we then put a massive computer at the middle of this Internet of things

You're doing it wrong.

You don't put a massive ANYTHING in the middle of a huge flow of data. Instead, you come up with ways to route the flow around the network to where the data needs to go, and you limit risk by isolating systems from each other, and creating APIs, Protocols, and Redundancy. There's a reason we're still able to use the Internet -- It was specifically designed to avoid such single points of failures.

Now, a distributed system? Yeah, maybe. Where you can hot swap out a chunk and the rest of the network keeps on trucking with little to no effect on the whole... yes. Where there's a big "Master Control Program" -- NO. That's not scalable. Individual specialised overseers, maybe.

This whole article says more about the author's lack of knowledge about Cybernetic Systems than anything else.

You city likely already has this (1)

aklinux (1318095) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816899)

I don't know that IBM/CISCO supplied it, but even we have a scaled down version of this in Anchorage, Alaska.

Anchorage, shortly after 9/11, desided it needed something along these lines. We are only about 300,000 people. If we have it, I would be suprised to find that anyplace larger than us does not.

I did visit ours a few years back, shortly after it was implemented. It's not in the scale or Rio's, but we don't have 6 million-plus people either. I don't recall seeing any IBM logos, but when you're the size of Rio, it's going to take a larger company to do this sort of thing, What are the options?

Re:You city likely already has this (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817295)

anoyone else thats not shoving their 1970's final fight and latest publicity stunt as a sales pitch

Gaming the system (1)

EmperorOfCanada (1332175) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816919)

I suspect that the system could easily be gamed. You notice a bunch of farmers blah blahing about a farmer's market so you ask for a building permit on the "Carrot Friendly" building. The computer puts two and two together and poof you have building approval with the computer thinking it has solved two problems. Or you pay 100 people to write in and say there aren't enough stripclubs replacing playgrounds. Bang the computer rezones a playground. I would love to see an smart system provide an independent report as long it was more of a reality check. The city where I live (Halifax) banned chickens. A 5 year old could have told you that this was a case of some squeaky wheel hypochondriac worked up over bird-flu and not a serious problem for the 99.999 percent of the population.

Then there are the programmers or the company that makes the system. I can then see the system continuously suggesting intelligent this and that which IBM also is a provider of. Not to mention that if I were the programmer I could certainly use it solve some neighbourhood problems.

Well ... Perhaps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39816959)

The wonderful thing with City Mayors, State Governors and sitting US Presidents is the entrapment of ... uh hum ... sex.

Be it Male-on-Male or Male-on-Female or Female-on-Female or Man-on-child or child-on-Female sex the temptations are just toooooo much for even the most 'Morman' of 'US anything' officials to resist ... just ask 'soon-to-be-ex-President' Obama-boy about his 'secret service GMC adventures into the deepest darkest southeast DC on late nights safari in search of a thight butt'.

LoL

Well (1, Interesting)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816967)

have you seen the documentary on developing watson? it seems very smart in a very specific focus, but in the end it could not tell you its ass from a hole in the ground. its a very high speed database search on common phrases, not intelligence

and as far as the ops center? ohh increase number of LCD screen = better right? I invite you to look into LA's command center, or maybe NYC or any other grade A state of the art traffic center in the last 20 years, fuck my city of just over a million has more than three god damned helicopters, whats the news?

I'm glad that experiment is happening (1)

Shavano (2541114) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816971)

... and I'm glad it's happening in another country.

Watson mixes up Toronto and Chicago (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816973)

Watson mixes up Toronto and Chicago now Toronto does have a lot stuff copied from Chicago but still it may be a big mess to let Watson run stuff.

Star Trek Season 1 Episode 21 (1)

cromar (1103585) | more than 2 years ago | (#39816983)

I can't believe no one has mentioned "The Return of the Archons" yet...

Re:Star Trek Season 1 Episode 21 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39817277)

Come for Festival, eh? Tulia's pa can put you up. You'll have to hurry, it's almost the Red Hour...

kind of like halo odst (1)

Romxero (1117329) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817177)

In halo odst a super computer controlled the whole city in South Africa. Interesting....

Municipal Control Program (1)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817233)

With the information I can access, I can run things 900 to 1200 times better than any human.
 
End of line.

Why assume IBM and Cisco make the obvious mistakes (3, Insightful)

bloggerhater (2439270) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817305)

"This sounds awesome — but is it really a good idea to give a computer company (IBM is not an urban planner!) so much control over one of the world's biggest cities?"

I feel this question is moot considering the number of professionals likely consulting on these jobs. Just as it has been with the computer automation of any industry. You can't expect a group of computer scientists / engineers to slap this together on their own.

I also highly doubt that this is a centralized system with single attack vectors as some have speculated. This system is the culmination of multiple points of reference collected from multiple sub systems and quite intelligently parsed. It isn't as if the network that controls the traffic lights is wired directly into the water and electrical grids.

I for one.... (1)

TheInternetGuy (2006682) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817315)

IBM Mayor:
  -I for one welcome all my new loyal subjects.
  My first mandate will be;
  no one leaves!
  Now BOW!

Whoa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39817601)

IBM programmers played a lot of Sim City!

WTF? (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817669)

Who cares how much shit there is a septic tank? The company that needs to empty it, that's who - and as TFA states, they're already connected to it. Utopian singularity retardedness.

P.S. the answer, as always, is "no".

Star Trek Reference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39817701)

Here's to Mayor Dunsel!

Never, ever... (1)

AchilleTalon (540925) | more than 2 years ago | (#39817739)

Did you ever see what IBM did with his system management software suite, namely Tivoli? I am absolutely sure I don't want them managing my city. There would never been enough taxes to pay for an upgrade and patch the software once a month. And if there is, I am about sure the upgrade will fail or the CPU will top at 100% for no reason.
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