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Pirate Bay, IsoHunt Blocked In India

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the say-it-is-not-so dept.

Censorship 123

New submitter unmole writes "It seems that India's Department of Telecom has instructed ISPs to block popular torrent trackers like the Pirate Bay and IsoHunt. Visitors now see a page (Screenshot) informing them that 'This site has been blocked as per instructions from Department of Telecom (DOT),' with no additional details. The Department of Telecom has not made any public announcement to this effect. This comes months after an Indian court gave the green signal for prosecuting social networking sites."

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Not Blocked (5, Informative)

alphabetsoup (953829) | about 2 years ago | (#39900005)

Tried it just now, both sites works perfectly fine. Probably a problem with the ISP.

Re:Not Blocked (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900055)

Works fine here in India as of now.

Re:Not Blocked (5, Informative)

monzie (729782) | about 2 years ago | (#39900105)

I have a Reliance 3G data card. Pirate Bay, IsoHunt and a few other sites ( including pastebin ) are blocked.. On a different ISP, (AirTel ) it isn't. (yet).This anecdotal evidence suggests that either the directive is optional for ISP's or some have chosen to ignore it. Moral of the story - Just choose a good ISP.

Re:Not Blocked (3, Informative)

hihihihi (940800) | about 2 years ago | (#39900323)

Moral of the story - Just choose a good ISP.

i agree overall with this sentiment, but fact remains its not so easy specially if you live outside centers of town...
most of the places the only choice is BSNL (the "Big Setup, No Link" (almost) govt. monopoly) or Reliance datacard. BSNL Service is unreliable as hell (i had connection for 3 months, out of them for 2 it never worked!) and if Reliance dumps you, there is no options for most of the rest people!

Re:Not Blocked (1)

santosh.k83 (2442182) | about 2 years ago | (#39900719)

I've often heard comments about BSNL's unreliability but it's broadband DSL service has been working pretty well for me since several years, though speeds are little lower than advertised. But their mobile signal is very poor even in the center of a major city!

Re:Not Blocked (1)

kbx911 (2530154) | about 2 years ago | (#39901741)

absolutely correct review of bsnl, their mobile services are horrible but broadband is fine, their customer service is horrible all a cross but 3G signal is probably the best (the only one that works in hte moutains too and near beaches)

Re:Not Blocked (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39901285)

I would consider BSNL as the best provider in India. Its the only one providing unlimted plan with no FUP. Using it for last 6ys with no issues.

Re:Not Blocked (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39902997)

I quite disagree. BSNL's 'unlimited' broadband plans were actually capped @ 4GB - in which case, why call it unlimited (something that's since been fixed)? It's been better recently, but it's certainly not been good for the last SIX years. Also, their service is terrible, since they make most of their money leasing it to other carriers than direct customer sales. Very often, it's due to other carriers cutting their lines in the process of setting up their own. The only advantage of it is that being a former govt monopoly, it's the service one's most likely to find in remote areas. Also, if one happens to visit their office, it's like visiting a government office, rather than a professional company.

Re:Not Blocked (1)

santosh.k83 (2442182) | about 2 years ago | (#39900133)

thepiratebay.se works for me with BSNL (which is govt owned), so I doubt private ISPs would be quicker to block it.

Re:Not Blocked (2)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about 2 years ago | (#39900155)

thepiratebay.se works for me with BSNL (which is govt owned), so I doubt private ISPs would be quicker to block it.

Are any of the private ISPs butt-buddies with the MAFIAA like they are in the US? For them, the law would be a convenient excuse instead of a burden.

Re:Not Blocked (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900297)

BSNL was govt owned, but no longer is. Yeah, they still have the same old govt bureaucracies if you go to pay your bills, and the same ole pathetic service, but they are not govt owned.

Re:Not Blocked (1)

oiron (697563) | about 2 years ago | (#39900753)

It's no longer a government department, but it's still a PSU, wholly owned by the government; you won't find it listed in a stock market anywhere soon...

I've tried both sites on both BSNL (DSL) and Airtel (mobile) - no blocks!

Re:Not Blocked (0)

kbx911 (2530154) | about 2 years ago | (#39902673)

ftw wtf then who owns the, this is a fucking surprising bit of news, if it is private how hte heck are the samr government office type people still owking there

Re:Not Blocked (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900203)

Postsing as AC obvious reasons:

This order has been passed on only some ISP's without getting any direct order from court. List of ISP's Blocked/Unblocked info.

- Reliance Communications Data Card: Yes, both blocked
- Reliance Wireline, Mumbai/Gujarat: Yes, both blocked
- MTNL Delhi/Mumbai: No
- Airtel Delhi/Bangalore/Mumbai/Pune/Chennai: No
- BSNL Bangalore/Pune/Andhra Pradesh/Gurgaon: No
- Tata Pune: No
- Sify Pune: No
- Hathway Mumbai: No
- Syscon Infoway: Yes, both blocked
- Zylog Wi5: Yes, both blocked
- Aircel Ahmedabad: Yes
- Vodafone 3G, Ahmedabad/Maharashtra: Yes, both blocked.
- Tikona, Mumbai: Yes, both blocked.
- You Broadband: No
- 24Online Kolkatta: Yes
- Connect, Punjab : Yes, only torrents.

I will be more worried, if two biggest ISP Airtel and Tata communincation started to block site. Every other small isp goes through either TATA or Airtel In India.

The solution is simple switch DNS (a list of free dns provider is here http://theos.in/windows-xp/free-fast-public-dns-server-list/ [theos.in] ) and use VPN / proxy site. More info is posted at http://torrentfreak.com/india-orders-blackout-of-vimeo-the-pirate-bay-and-more-120504/ [torrentfreak.com]

Re:Not Blocked (1)

santosh.k83 (2442182) | about 2 years ago | (#39900261)

Thanks for the info. Interesting that Reliance a private ISP has implemented the block while both MTNL and BSNL have not, AFAICS. And pray tell what's the reason for blocking vimeo? Why not go the whole hog and block Youtube as well? I've been following the numerous US and European Internet censorship attempts the past few years, and wondering when this place was going to be ordered to heel; I guess the fun has begun.

Re:Not Blocked (2)

oiron (697563) | about 2 years ago | (#39900755)

I don't know if you were around a few years ago when they tried blocking one or two Yahoo groups that were (supposedly) terrorist fronts, but ended up blocking all of Y-groups in a blanket order...

Eventually, that was lifted too.

Re:Not Blocked (1)

santosh.k83 (2442182) | about 2 years ago | (#39901159)

I wasn't on slashdot, but I did hear about that incident, as well as a fiasco involving Blogger if I remember correctly, again blacking out the entire blogspot domain instead of just the offending blog.

By and large the Indian government seems all set and eager to follow the Western censorship tactics, step-by-step. It was inevitable. A fragile democracy of over a billion people, of a greater spectrum of religions and classes than any other country, with at least a couple of hostile governments nearby as well - what better excuse does any govt need for proposing any and every censorship/surveillance law.

In fact, given the lesser degree of overall awareness of digital technologies and issues among the masses (not the IT techs), the govt stands a good chance of passing through many of these legislations completely under the public/media radar.

We just didn't have the kind of widespread digital penetration till quite recently, but now that it's started happening, we can expect these kind of actions more and more frequently.

Re:Not Blocked (1)

icecoldkilla (1011085) | about 2 years ago | (#39902375)

Reliance owns Big Cinemas .. May be thats why they have blocked voluntarily. Fucking assholes just cannot contend being the biggest Billionaire in a country where millions of children are malnourished.

Re:Not Blocked (1)

kbx911 (2530154) | about 2 years ago | (#39902839)

true that, i suspect the joo hand, they have tie ups with hollywood, they're investing in hollywood, so they dont want us to "steal" from them.

Re:Not Blocked (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900603)

So, basically some ISPs are complying with an order that isn't from the courts, and some are ignoring it. I guess people will know which ISPs they can drop.

"The solution is simple switch DNS (a list of free dns provider is here http://theos.in/windows-xp/free-fast-public-dns-server-list/ [theos.in] ) and use VPN / proxy site. More info is posted at http://torrentfreak.com/india-orders-blackout-of-vimeo-the-pirate-bay-and-more-120504/ [torrentfreak.com]"

How long until some idiot legislators want to make "running your own DNS" or "using an alternative DNS" illegal?

Re:Not Blocked (2)

Yvanhoe (564877) | about 2 years ago | (#39900665)

How long until some idiot legislators want to make "running your own DNS" or "using an alternative DNS" illegal?

Heh, they will do that one day, but it will probably another year or two before they realize we can just make url links with IP address or that using an http name resolver (technically not using the DNS protocol) is an easy workaround.

Re:Not Blocked (1)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | about 2 years ago | (#39900767)

I guess people will know which ISPs they can drop.

Not really, most of the country is a monopoly, some parts a duopoly. very few areas have more than 2 providers (excluding high speed wireless which is prohibitively expensive for anything other than browsing)

Re:Not Blocked (1)

MacGyver2210 (1053110) | about 2 years ago | (#39901173)

Didn't Star Wars teach these people anything? If you strike them down, they will just return more powerful than you can imagine...

DNS? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 2 years ago | (#39900007)

I would love to know what IP address those trackers resolve to inside India now.

US pressure (4, Insightful)

Kotakee (2632245) | about 2 years ago | (#39900015)

This has been made after countless amount of pressure from the US. I don't think there would be any reason for India to do it otherwise - they are shooting themselves in the leg by not allowing people to get free content (yes, by violating copyright). In the long run the country would be much better and richer if they gained foothold in technology and knowledge by any means necessary. Hell, this is how US become to be what they are now - by blatantly ignoring European copyrights. Of course, US doesn't want to allow that so they can stay in power.

Re:US pressure (0)

Rupam (782199) | about 2 years ago | (#39900031)

WTF are you going on about?!

Re:US pressure (4, Insightful)

Kotakee (2632245) | about 2 years ago | (#39900059)

In simpler terms for the readers in the grand land of America:

- India has no reason to fight against pirates
- US income mostly consists of copyrights and patents instead of actual goods
- US constantly bullies the whole world so that their largest revenue would stay secure.
- India would, long term, make their country much better and knowledgeable by letting their people pirate whatever they want, like tools for coding, operating systems, photoshop, whatever. Currently they have little money.

Conclusion - US pressures India and other countries.

About US violations of copyrights in the past. It's fully known that US blatantly ignored any and every copyright and law that Europe had back then. This is how they gained power by openly abusing other countries and their people.

Re:US pressure (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900823)

- US income mostly consists of copyrights and patents instead of actual goods
- US constantly bullies the whole world so that their largest revenue would stay secure.

You're right about the bullying, but wrong about the financials. The MAFIAA don't make that much money. They're just VERY well connected to politicians.

Re:US pressure (1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about 2 years ago | (#39900869)

Aren't Bollywood and the Tamil studios coming out with some pretty impressive entertainment these days? There might be more internal pressure than you think.

Re:US pressure (1)

santosh.k83 (2442182) | about 2 years ago | (#39901175)

Popular yes. Impressive no.

Indeed the film crowd has finally finished their remedial from MAFIAA, and all set and raring to go, and make their masters proud.

Re:US pressure (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39901925)

- US constantly bullies the whole world so that their largest revenue would stay secure.

European countries had been doing this for centuries, even going as far as committing genocide of millions to that end

Also, don't forget Europeans stealing every single Arab and Chinese invention for themselves. Let's face it, Europe owes an eternity of debt to the entire world, and every country that violates European patents/copyrights is justified as reparation for the suffering that they have caused on this earth.

Re:US pressure (1)

westlake (615356) | about 2 years ago | (#39902151)

- India has no reason to fight against pirates

Not true.

Bollywood is the largest film producer in India and one of the largest centers of film production in the world.
There has been a growing presence of Indian English in dialogue and songs as well. It is common to see films that feature dialogue with English words (also known as Hinglish), phrases, or even whole sentences.

Bollywood [wikipedia.org]

Pirates are welcomed in the outlands --- not in the centers of production --- not where there is real money to be made --- and lost --- in both domestic and foreign markets.

- US income mostly consists of copyrights and patents instead of actual goods

Nonsense.

The economy of the United States is the world's largest national economy. Its nominal GDP was estimated to be over $15 trillion in 2011.
The U.S. is the largest trading nation in the world. Its three largest trading partners as of 2010 are Canada, China and Mexico.
The economy of the United States is a mixed economy and has maintained a stable overall GDP growth rate, a moderate unemployment rate, and high levels of research and capital investment. It has been the world's largest national economy (not including colonial empires) since at least the 1890s.
Most of the economy is classified as services. As of 2012, the country remains the world's largest manufacturer, representing a fifth of the global manufacturing output.

Economy of the United States [wikipedia.org]

- US constantly bullies the whole world so that their largest revenue would stay secure.

If you want entry into the lucrative American market, pirating American products is perhaps not the best way to begin.

- India would, long term, make their country much better and knowledgeable by letting their people pirate whatever they want, like tools for coding, operating systems, photoshop, whatever. Currently they have little money.

Photoshop is a photo editing tool for the professional.

It implies a huge investment in camera bodies, lenses, other photographic gear, high-end PC hardware and so on, endlessly.

Tools are useless if you don't know how to use them --- if you don't have the other tools needed to make them useful --- and if you don't have a market for your work.

Re:US pressure (1)

icecoldkilla (1011085) | about 2 years ago | (#39902431)

- India has no reason to fight against pirates .

That is not entirly true Every Shitty Bollywood and regional movies have blamed their failures on the pirates(Right from the beginning when most of the India didin't even have Televisions sets). Recently during release of a shitty movie from Big Cinemas entire Blogger was blocked due to Court order.

Re:US pressure (5, Informative)

fredprado (2569351) | about 2 years ago | (#39900067)

After WWII US had taken minimum damage and had a good industrial base. On the other hand, Europe was devastated but its countries held most of the profitable patents. US solved the problem by voiding any non-US patent and allowing its companies to produce whatever they wished regardless of any European claim to their products (not unlike what China does today). That is what in good part made US the greatest economical superpower in the world. US was not the first and won't be the last to realize that ignoring external patents is the way to go if you really want to develop your country.

Re:US pressure (1)

poity (465672) | about 2 years ago | (#39901823)

Are there any examples where the US ignored European patents on a massive scale? I thought the US gained a massive boost in patents through German war reparations, and the influx of European researchers (patent holders) through Operation Paperclip. Now, one can criticize the possible coercive nature of Paperclip, but to my mind the patents were transferred to the US rather than wholly ignored as is often claimed.

Re:US pressure (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900355)

While the US bullies countries a lot, they have not locked even their own users from these sites.
India is strong enough to ignore any bullying.
Therefore, it must be something else, like their own movie industry, that forced this lockdown.

Typical of India (1)

Rupam (782199) | about 2 years ago | (#39900019)

Can't the govt stop worrying about piracy and focus on solving the real world problems that plague India instead? TPB probably got blocked coz some fellow didnt get paid his demanded amount of protection money. In the meantime, go ahead and use TPB at http://thepiratebay.se/ [thepiratebay.se]

Re:Typical of India (1)

MurukeshM (1901690) | about 2 years ago | (#39900043)

That's where I went first. It's blocked too.

Re:Typical of India (1)

Rupam (782199) | about 2 years ago | (#39900051)

That's where I went first. It's blocked too.

Which ISP? It's working for me on a Photon Plus, as well as Aircel 3G

Re:Typical of India (1)

MurukeshM (1901690) | about 2 years ago | (#39900187)

BSNL, I'd guess. My college has lines from both BSNL and AirTel. I'm not sure which one's being used by the proxy serve I am on.

Re:Typical of India (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900241)

Use http://www.ip2location.com/ [ip2location.com]

Re:Typical of India (1)

MurukeshM (1901690) | about 2 years ago | (#39900385)

That was amusing. My ISP is my college itself. :)

Re:Typical of India (1)

perryizgr8 (1370173) | about 2 years ago | (#39901549)

then maybe its your college blocking it in an attempt to lower data usage. my uni uses airtel as the isp, and nothing is blocked.

Re:Typical of India (1)

MurukeshM (1901690) | about 2 years ago | (#39901759)

Then I guess it's BSNL. I'd guess they must be well under the DoT's thumb. My college blocks most ports, so torrenting has to go through Tor (proxy problems, nothing else seems to work). They don't block sites, irrespective of the data usage. Probably because that's cheaper than buying licenses for every POS software we have to use, and we use the LAN to share most stuff.

Change your DNS. It works. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900033)

----

"Thanks" go to Bollywood (1)

blind biker (1066130) | about 2 years ago | (#39900125)

I've noticed a big uptake in Bollywood movies on torrent sites, in the past couple of years.

Well, I guess the fun's over.

Re:"Thanks" go to Bollywood (1)

hihihihi (940800) | about 2 years ago | (#39900347)

i see, so if i get it right, and pray almighty i do, you are implying that since people cannot pirate for free, they will not watch stupid [bt]ollywood movies, and in time, will clear the mind of useless nonsense and will get smarter and realistic and the effect of bollywood will diminish further and everything and so things will get better and better and the fun will begi....

wait, my initial hypothesis is wrong... or yours or...

does not COMPUTE!!!!

Re:"Thanks" go to Bollywood (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900625)

I'm confused. You're saying that people *deliberatly* download Bollywood movies, not just 'cause they got an annoying singing dude instead of an annoying magic dude when they downloaded harry putar?!

Let Them Eat Cake (4, Insightful)

lobiusmoop (305328) | about 2 years ago | (#39900219)

Given that the GDP of India in 2011 was $1389, compared with $48,387 for the USA [wikipedia.org], I really don't think sales of CD's and DVD's are going to sky-rocket after blocking torrent sites.

Re:Let Them Eat Cake (1)

Joce640k (829181) | about 2 years ago | (#39900661)

All these laws should have an expiry data so if there's no big uptick in cinema attendance/DVD sales after six months they automatically get repealed. Even the Patriot act had an expiry date (theoretically).

They can also make it so the people behind a failed law don't get to propose any new laws for at least five years. That would be good too.

Two useless laws in a row and they're banned forever.

drugs are okay, pirating is right out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900293)

It seems I can still buy my prescriptions from India without problems. But oh noes, someone can download a hollywood movie.

Measuring effect? (1)

Neelix21 (143043) | about 2 years ago | (#39900309)

If anyone's interested, I'd be more than happy to share the code and experiences with someone to measure the effect of blocking the websites on bittorrent participation. See https://bitbucket.org/vdham/dutchpirate [bitbucket.org] for the code that was used in the dutch measurements.

A problem with measuring this is that we did not have a good view of the "before" situation, so if this still works, than you can do a good measurement now. Send me a message if you want to know more or need help.

Not true (5, Informative)

jalfreize (173125) | about 2 years ago | (#39900317)

This is not true, or at least wildly inaccurate. The main Indian Government-owned ISP, BSNL, has not blocked any of these websites. Many of the private ISP's haven't either. There is one private ISP -- Reliance Infocomm -- which is owned by the Reliance ADA Group, which happens to also have considerable interests in content generation (they produce bollywood movies, and also are major financial backers to Spielberg's Dreamworks SKG). They are known to block torrent/video sharing sites during prominent movie releases.

Reliance Media has an upcoming Movie release (5, Interesting)

ami.one (897193) | about 2 years ago | (#39900345)

Reliance Media has an upcoming Movie release scheduled in 2 weeks.

This happens every time just before a new movie release. It'll be back to normal after that. The few other ISPs are probably going through Reliance. None of the other large ISPs have done this.

Its just to reduce the chance of a leak before the release, which has happened a few times in the past and is at times disastrous for the movie as it gets reviewed before opening day. Then if its good it gets downloaded a lot, while if its bad there's are less viewers turning up in theaters.

Its not as bad as it seems (2)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | about 2 years ago | (#39900371)

The block is being implemented by Reliance because it is releasing a movie on Friday
Think of it this way: If Warner Brothers had an ISP as well, and they blocked filesharing sites for 2-3 days before and after a movie is released by them, and they blame it on the govt. since the govt. gave them the permission to do so

Re:Its not as bad as it seems (2)

Zorque (894011) | about 2 years ago | (#39900413)

Time Warner actually does own an ISP, I'm a little surprised they haven't been more proactive in filtering media they own.

Re:Its not as bad as it seems (1)

cffrost (885375) | about 2 years ago | (#39901837)

Time Warner actually does own an ISP, I'm a little surprised they haven't been more proactive in filtering media they own.

It's possible that Time Warner prefers to collect Internet service fees from file-sharers, as opposed to devaluing their Internet service (and risk pushing customers to competing services (in applicable locales)) based on the dubious hypothesis that reducing access for file-sharers will result in increased sales of shared media.

Re:Its not as bad as it seems (1)

santosh.k83 (2442182) | about 2 years ago | (#39900647)

Is it legal for them to do so? I wonder what particular law gives them the leeway to block arbitrary sites at arbitrary times, claiming that the Department of Telecommunications ordered them to do so, which is wrong in this case apparently, since it's purely a private decision by Reliance.

Re:Its not as bad as it seems (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900821)

Well, as you might know, something not being legal is not necessarily a deterrent. Who will file a case? And when will that case come up for hearing? Certainly not in a week or even a month's time.

Re:Its not as bad as it seems (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 2 years ago | (#39900947)

If Warner Brothers had an ISP as well

If? All major IPS's ( at least in the US ) are directly tied to content providers.

Re:Its not as bad as it seems (1)

cffrost (885375) | about 2 years ago | (#39901845)

If Warner Brothers had an ISP as well

If? All major [ISPs] ( at least in the US ) are directly tied to content providers.

Verizon [operator of FiOS]?

meh... the revew had merit until... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900409)

i read this:

"As is the case with Linux in general, wireless can be a bit patchy..."

stoopid nosepicking newbie hacktard

I love governments playing "me too" (1)

Windwraith (932426) | about 2 years ago | (#39900469)

One country blocks PB, and a lot follow. It's like they can't think by themselves so they need others to make way for their stupid decisions, so they are encouraged to censor and butch the world in the name of "piracy".

It's like my country that started a CISPA-like law before the US did, and then the US did, infallibly, after a few weeks.
Best thing. We got the highest unemployment rate in Europe, with numbers that are ridiculous. Yet, they worry about piracy instead.

I bet India's mid/low-class suffering is also ignored in behalf of "entertainment" as well (when was the last time those companies managed to entertain me, I don't know).
Entertainment makes us happier (at times) and gives us things to talk about. But it's definitely not what matters in the big picture. I'd rather be able to feed myself than to watch a new Hollywood hit, or play a fucking EA game.
At what point in time we gave extreme priority to Big Media so they have the power to actually affect our freedom? Because people (in suits) spewing out movies and music and videogames should not have this kind of power. They should only need to entertain us. Yet, they command more than governments.

Re:I love governments playing "me too" (2)

santosh.k83 (2442182) | about 2 years ago | (#39900699)

One country blocks PB, and a lot follow. It's like they can't think by themselves so they need others to make way for their stupid decisions, so they are encouraged to censor and butch the world in the name of "piracy".

It's like my country that started a CISPA-like law before the US did, and then the US did, infallibly, after a few weeks. Best thing. We got the highest unemployment rate in Europe, with numbers that are ridiculous. Yet, they worry about piracy instead.

I bet India's mid/low-class suffering is also ignored in behalf of "entertainment" as well (when was the last time those companies managed to entertain me, I don't know). Entertainment makes us happier (at times) and gives us things to talk about. But it's definitely not what matters in the big picture. I'd rather be able to feed myself than to watch a new Hollywood hit, or play a fucking EA game. At what point in time we gave extreme priority to Big Media so they have the power to actually affect our freedom? Because people (in suits) spewing out movies and music and videogames should not have this kind of power. They should only need to entertain us. Yet, they command more than governments.

Unfortunately entertainment in various forms has become the 'opiate' of the masses the world over. I would attribute this to the lack of meaningful employment of the vast majority. People simply don't get to do what makes them excited or passionate, or they never even get a chance to discover what inspires them, and get stuck in all sorts of mind-numbingly boring jobs, with the result that sextetainment sells like never before in history.

I don't blame them too. Often a scan of world (or local) news reads so monotonously depressing one wants to forget it all in some game/film.

Society failed (or rather the promise of a new age of enlightened living) when it's vast majority's lives aren't worth the paper to write it on.

Back on topic, these half-hearted attempts at blocking torrent-trackers will fail resoundingly given that black-market CD/DVD discs of all major films are easily available in practically every town and city for about a dollar or so each. All it will do is drive discerning users to seek other ISP (I hope.)

Primitive Block (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900599)

It makes me laugh how primitive a block they have put on these sites because i still have no issue in visiting them via simple means

Pirate blocked in India (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39900835)

Pirate hasn't been blocked. Still accessible from my computer(ISP is Airtel).

It's what people want (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39901097)

The majority of the people like to be controlled. We see a lot of news the last years about control and filtering on the internet. People want this. Why else is it possible for the entertaining industry to get content filtered. Why else is it possible that law enforcing departments can monitor us more and more.

Why else is it possible that government demands our internet communication to be stored for at least 2 years ( in the EU).

It's because people want this. It's rules for the people, by the people. The complaining minority should finally accept that we live in a democracy.

Essentially filtering is good. It protects you by seeing and doing things that you shouldn't do or see. Also being monitored will have a positive effect. People know that they are being monitored with everything. And this will lead to self censorship. Which is essentially also not bad. Are you really going to say in public everything you want? I don't think so. Being anonymous and creating a stage where everything can be said will lead to extremism.

And, to repeat myself here. The people WANT this. It is law made by the people for the people.

Re:It's what people want (1)

santosh.k83 (2442182) | about 2 years ago | (#39901233)

Just because the majority are silent about something (which is what usually happens. They don't want it; They're simply too uninformed/confused/jaded to speak out) doesn't make it right, and doesn't absolve those who know better from at least speaking out about it.

At different points in history, in different societies, the majority have silently condoned or even approved virtually every form of evil man is capable of. That doesn't make them all right.

Re:It's what people want (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39901307)

You assume that people are stupid and/or confused. I strongly disagree.

Basically it is very simple. The people can read the newspapers or online news. They read that the EU is enforcing 2 years storage of the users internet requests. They READ that local authorities ( even by commercial law) are blocking and or filtering content. They CAN read that and CAN understand that. They CAN read AND understand that there are more and more monitoring options by local authorities. The people know.

And the majority of the people agree by not disagreeing. Why else are these laws and is this behaviour possible. Because people see it as law by the people for the people. So therefor my conclusion stands. The majority of the people want this.

 

Use an alternate set of DNS servers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39901111)

I am using Google's DNS servers and I can access both piratebay and isohunt .
The approach taken by the Indian government towards every such problem is stone-age . Drop a nuke to kill the roach. Unfortunately what the baffoons do not realise is that the only thing they will be killing are the humans ( legal users) . People wanting to download things from torrents will find one way or the other , until mega corporations release movies and music that are affordable and DRM free

Obligatory Firefly/Serenity quote (1)

gstrickler (920733) | about 2 years ago | (#39901185)

"Can't stop the signal".

I say that quote is now obligatory whenever they try blocking access to information on the Internet.

Is this site blocked for others from India? (1)

santosh.k83 (2442182) | about 2 years ago | (#39901477)

As I've commented in this story previously, thepiratebay and isohunt are not (yet?) blocked from my ISP (BSNL), but while randomly browsing I've come across a site that has been blocked here with the exact same message as others have noted: "This site has been blocked as per instructions from Department of Telecom (DOT)."

http://www.funscrape.com/ [funscrape.com]

Is this site blocked for others too, both BSNL and other ISP users?

I wonder what's the reason for this one? Seems to be a harmless site...

Re:Is this site blocked for others from India? (1)

santosh.k83 (2442182) | about 2 years ago | (#39901629)

And to follow-up, the block seems to be at IP level, as the same blocked notification page is displayed even when I go through Google's Public DNS.

Re:Is this site blocked for others from India? (1)

sir-gold (949031) | about 2 years ago | (#39901907)

funscrape appears to have bollywood music and movies available for streaming (probably without a license).

Free speech? (1)

sir-gold (949031) | about 2 years ago | (#39901891)

Does India not have any free speech laws? A democracy that censor's speech is not a democracy, it's a dictatorship of consensus

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