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Missouri High School Principal Resigns After Posing As Student On Facebook

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the such-poor-use-of-pronouns dept.

Education 190

longacre writes "Suzy Harriston wanted to be friends on Facebook. The profile said she was from Clayton [Missouri] and had more than 300 friends, many of them from Clayton High School. No one seemed to question who Harriston was. That is, until the night of April 5, when a 2011 grad and former Clayton quarterback posted a public accusation. '"Whoever is friends with Suzy Harriston on Facebook needs to drop them. It is the Clayton Principal," wrote Chase Haslett.' Suzy Harriston quickly disappeared from Facebook, and Louise Losos, the principal, subsequently took a leave of absence, and then resigned."

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This happens more than you think (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903383)

I know for a fact that stuff like this happened in my old high school in Missouri, but we didn't ever 100% prove it. Whenever the principal would find something that someone had posted on Facebook during school and punish them during the same day, it was pretty obvious.

Re:This happens more than you think (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903411)

Ain't no honor in snitching.

Re:This happens more than you think (2)

PPH (736903) | about 2 years ago | (#39903571)

When I was a kid in high school, some of the faculty dated a few of the students and got the low down on the social scene this way.

You kids have it easy. Now stay off of my lawn!

Re:This happens more than you think (5, Insightful)

rogueippacket (1977626) | about 2 years ago | (#39903737)

Yeah, Facebook "creeping" seems unscrupulous, but it is much, much better than the alternatives. A nosy person is a nosy person - they'll get into your business if they want to, at least Facebook keeps them across a digital divide. Besides, it teaches the kids a valuable lesson - if you put it online, it's never private.

Re:This happens more than you think (5, Insightful)

PPH (736903) | about 2 years ago | (#39904087)

Yeah, Facebook "creeping" seems unscrupulous, but it is much, much better than the alternatives.

It's a boundary violation. Passing as a student creates inappropriate relationships between kids and people who are supposed to be authority figures and professionals.

"The alternative" is what, exactly? Spying on kids without probable cause and something resembling judicial oversight is just teaching them to expect the same behavior from law enforcement or other authorities once they become adults and make it out into the real world. Its probably different for 10-year-olds. But kids have to have a continuum of responsibility and autonomy. High school is right next to adulthood and people need to behave as such.

Re:This happens more than you think (2)

hoboroadie (1726896) | about 2 years ago | (#39904387)

Spying on kids without probable cause and something resembling judicial oversight is just teaching them to expect the same behavior from law enforcement or other authorities once they become adults and make it out into the real world.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Re:This happens more than you think (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904501)

"Spying on kids without probable cause and something resembling judicial oversight is just teaching them to expect the same behavior from law enforcement or other authorities once they become adults and make it out into the real world."

That already happens. At the airports (TSA), at just about any business that runs machinery 'fire' inspectors can almost randomly come in (you can't say no) to ensure that fire codes aren't being broken, that no one who isn't covered by workers comp enters, etc.. The government inspects hospitals, doctors, clinical trials, restaurants, and other private businesses for various violations with no probable cause, no nothing. Heck, even private accounting and other firms must follow very strict rules (ie: don't mix accounting and finance documents if the firm does both accounting and finance) and auditors sometimes do random audits with no probable cause whatsoever, searching through files and looking for minor violations, basically phishing, and if they find even minor violations (you placed this folder with a clients accounting information on a finance table for too long, the limit is 2 hours or whatever) they can either get fined or be given a timetable to fully meet compliance.

Unwarranted searches is the norm these days in private businesses wherever you turn. They're seen as 'exceptions' in this type of business, that type of business, etc... but when you add up all these 'exceptions' it becomes quite clear, they are the rule.

Re:This happens more than you think (4, Insightful)

Kreigaffe (765218) | about 2 years ago | (#39904681)

There is a WORLD of difference between snooping into business practices to make sure they're on the up-and-up, and snooping into the PRIVATE LIVES of citizens.

We accept business intrusions because it ensures that businesses (well, intends to ensure..) aren't exploiting workers or insider information.

We should never, ever accept snooping into private lives -- especially when that snooping is used to punish citizens for actions that took place outside and apart from the authority punishing them.

Re:This happens more than you think (4, Insightful)

theArtificial (613980) | about 2 years ago | (#39904985)

"Private" information posted online, especially to Facebook, is not private. It's like writing something in a public (the internet) and saying I can keep a secret but the people I tell cannot. From the same generation who posts their exploits to Youtube/Twitter/Facebook.

Re:This happens more than you think (4, Insightful)

robbo (4388) | about 2 years ago | (#39905057)

The real alternative is to teach our children not to accept friend requests from strangers. I find it shocking that 300 people accepted her friend requests without so much as raising an eyebrow.

Dating students? (1)

colinrichardday (768814) | about 2 years ago | (#39903741)

Did they get fired for that?

Re:Dating students? (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 2 years ago | (#39903837)

Crap, at my high school, as I later found out (it wasn't common knowledge at the time), three of the four P.E. teachers had married students, and that a fifth, who had moved to middle school but who had been part of the faculty at the time had also married a student.

Nowadays, of course, these guys would be registered sex offenders, banned from a specific radius around the school or being the presence of someone under the age of 18, and so on. Back then it was just "Naughty man, now marry that girl!" Hell, I'll wager back the dads were as proud as punch that their little girl was marrying the football coach.

Re:Dating students? (1)

PPH (736903) | about 2 years ago | (#39904027)

Sounds like we went to the same high school. The school fight song was banjo music (figuratively).

When I was in junior high, one kid got in a (seemingly) unprovoked fight with a teacher in the classroom (I witnessed it). Neither got suspended/fired. Later on, I heard the rumor that it was because they had the hots for the same girl.

Re:Dating students? (0)

Eunuchswear (210685) | about 2 years ago | (#39904163)

Crap, at my high school, as I later found out (it wasn't common knowledge at the time), three of the four P.E. teachers had married students, and that a fifth, who had moved to middle school but who had been part of the faculty at the time had also married a student.

You went to the same school as Newt Gingrich?

Re:This happens more than you think (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904197)

I'm 19 and going out with my current teacher (i'm still in high school as I failled my 3rd and 4th grade) so she should be considered bad because shes going out with one of her student ??

Re:This happens more than you think (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904477)

even taking age out of consideration, yes, it is still considered bad. why? because at the very least it is a conflict of interest.

Re:This happens more than you think (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904499)

You must be pretty dumb to fail the 3rd and 4th grade this day in time, the standards are even worse now than they were 20 years ago, but anyway it also depends on the state, not as much age or age difference. Just being a teacher in a college, having a relationship with a student can get you the charged as well.

Re:This happens more than you think (1, Insightful)

outsider007 (115534) | about 2 years ago | (#39904635)

Well it wouldn't have been this day in time would it? Glass houses, genius.

Re:This happens more than you think (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904509)

No, she should be considered bad (or at least have bad judgment) because she's going out with a flunkout.

Re:This happens more than you think (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904577)

shes going out with one of her student ??

That should be 'students'. Plural. And "shes" is a contraction and should have an apostrophe, as in "she's".

I guess this explains 3rd and 4th grade. Are you on the school football team? That might also explain being held back a few years.

Re:This happens more than you think (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39905047)

[Kelly Bundy gets home late at night, dressed scantily. "Well, I passed math!"]

Keep at it dude, at least this'll get you graduated. Don't forget the clitoris!

Re:This happens more than you think (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39905355)

I'm 19 and going out with my current teacher (i'm still in high school as I failled my 3rd and 4th grade) so she should be considered bad because shes going out with one of her student ??

What is your definition of 'bad'?

Should we be shocked that you don't seem to understand how unprofessional that is at the very least?

Re:This happens more than you think (5, Funny)

Joce640k (829181) | about 2 years ago | (#39903779)

I know for a fact that stuff like this happened in my old high school in Missouri, but we didn't ever 100% prove it. Whenever the principal would find something that someone had posted on Facebook during school...

This word 'old'...I don't think it means what you think it means.

Re:This happens more than you think (4, Funny)

davester666 (731373) | about 2 years ago | (#39903871)

It obviously refers to things in the distance past, say, more than 2 months ago.

Re:This happens more than you think (4, Funny)

sco08y (615665) | about 2 years ago | (#39904257)

It obviously refers to things in the distance past, say, more than 2 months ago.

As a Last Thursdayist, I object to your insensitive notion that anything existed more than 2 months ago.

Re:This happens more than you think (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904719)

It obviously refers to things in the distance past, say, more than 2 months ago.

As a Last Thursdayist, I object to your insensitive notion that anything existed more than 2 months ago.

Have you tried getting the fuck over yourself?

Re:This happens more than you think (0)

gagol (583737) | about 2 years ago | (#39904393)

Just like in: "Why is this on Slashdot, this is old news...".

But to say a house that has been built 2 months ago is old just not work.

Old is very subjective depending who is talking and what we are talking about.

Re:This happens more than you think (2)

flimflammer (956759) | about 2 years ago | (#39904415)

Their usage is so common that I'm really confused why you're nitpicking this. Virtually any time I've ever heard someone mention something about school they used to go to, the phrase was always along the lines of "at/in my old elementary/middle/high school".

That's not even considering the possibility that they're still in high school and they switched to a different one.

Re:This happens more than you think (1)

dumbunny (75910) | about 2 years ago | (#39904007)

I wonder what the best way would be to out a principal's account. You could feed it misinformation and see what happens afterwards, but it might be hard to determine whether the account is fake or just relayed the misinformation to the fake account. Maybe the easiest way is to accuse first (as the QB did) and ask for forgiveness later if the guess was wrong.

Re:This happens more than you think (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 2 years ago | (#39905379)

I'm not on Facebook so I don't understand. Why would anyone add a stranger as a friend, much less 300 students doing this?

Let's hear it for Louise Losos (4, Funny)

JoeCommodore (567479) | about 2 years ago | (#39903391)

She put the "Pal" i n principal!

Re:Let's hear it for Louise Losos (1)

ohnocitizen (1951674) | about 2 years ago | (#39903727)

She watched too much Community. When oh when will the networks realize the terrible impact their shows have on impressionable old minds? .... Dean ya later!

News for nerds (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903397)

Slow news day eh timothy?

She was running Linux.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903405)

...so calm down.

Re:News for nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903599)

How ironic that this was rated "insightful".

Re:News for nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903777)

It's news for nerds because it has to do with "computers". Normal people don't use computers. It's even nerdier because it has to do with people who use the internet to communicate with other people. Those losers need to get a life! Oh wait, wrong century.

principal (-1)

edave22 (2601393) | about 2 years ago | (#39903425)

He just wanted to know whats in, and whats out. Who's having sex and who's not. Who's going out on Friday nights and who's staying in. A principal that truly cares for his pupils. Either that, or he wanted in on those sexy beach pictures the cheer leading captain took with all her friends this summer.

Re:principal (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903497)

Suzy Harriston, a.k.a. Louise Losos.

Seems like "he" is a she.

But yaknow, attention to detail is over rated.

Re:principal (1)

outsider007 (115534) | about 2 years ago | (#39904709)

Yes but if she turns out to really be a man, wouldn't that be the kind of twist ending this story needs? Laces out!

Re:principal (4, Insightful)

Barbara, not Barbie (721478) | about 2 years ago | (#39903513)

He just wanted to know whats in, and whats out. Who's having sex and who's not. Who's going out on Friday nights and who's staying in. A principal that truly cares for his pupils. Either that, or he wanted in on those sexy beach pictures the cheer leading captain took with all her friends this summer.

Could you at least read the summary, if not the article? The principal is Louise Losos, a woman.

Re:principal (-1, Flamebait)

interval1066 (668936) | about 2 years ago | (#39903577)

What ever sex she was it was a stupid, immature thing to do.

Re:principal (1)

Barbara, not Barbie (721478) | about 2 years ago | (#39903995)

Apparently it's one way that school principals are spying on students. They can find out who did what, then hand out punishments accordingly.

In this case it was also motivated by school politics - an ongoing vendeta between her+the school board against a popular teacher who had the vocal support of a lot of the students, whose contract was not renewed.

Re:principal (1)

interval1066 (668936) | about 2 years ago | (#39905105)

Some one modded me down as flamebait... WAT???? You, whomever you are, think trolling is a mature, reasonable thing for a treacher to do??? I hope you don't have kids 'cause you've got problems.

Re:principal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903937)

substitute she in those sentences and it makes even more sense. women love the gossip

Political correctness has gone far too far. (-1, Troll)

arth1 (260657) | about 2 years ago | (#39904335)

substitute she in those sentences

Especially the sentence from the former quarterback. "Whoever is friends with Suzy Harriston on Facebook needs to drop them."
It grates badly enough on old ears to hear "they" and "them" be used for singular, but now it's even used when the gender is known?

Re:Political correctness has gone far too far. (2)

jpapon (1877296) | about 2 years ago | (#39904533)

It actually makes sense to use "them" in this case, because the gender is, in fact, not known. All that is known is the "gender" of the nom de plume, which is inherently suspect. The gender of the author is unknown, thus a gender-neutral pronoun is appropriate.

Re:Political correctness has gone far too far. (5, Informative)

MaskedSlacker (911878) | about 2 years ago | (#39904569)

It grates badly enough on old ears to hear "they" and "them" be used for singular

Only if you're a moron. The practice dates back to at least Chaucer, presumably earlier since it's unlikely he invented it. 'They' has been the gender neutral singular since Middle English. It's a lot older than you are, so I can only conclude that it grates on your ears because you never read any proper literature in the English language (like Shakespeare, Jane Austen, or George Bernard Shaw). The idea that it shouldn't be the gender neutral singular is a fabrication of 19th century assholes. Don't be like them.

Re:Political correctness has gone far too far. (5, Funny)

TapeCutter (624760) | about 2 years ago | (#39905387)

Informative grammar Nerd crushes grammar Nazi like a grape, win-win!

Re:Political correctness has gone far too far. (2)

FrootLoops (1817694) | about 2 years ago | (#39905059)

Everything different grates on someone's old ears; forgive me, but I don't really care. If your only objection to something is no more than a vague distaste, you should at least keep your opinion to yourself and not try forcing it on others. Either have a good reason to dislike something or stay out of it.

I haven't heard a single substantive argument for barring singular "they" and "them"--calling their use "incorrect" or "ungrammatical" is not sufficient. On the other hand, there are a number of good reasons to allow this usage: it fills a genuinely useful niche in language, it avoids the subtly sexist gender-neutral "he", and most English speakers use it in everyday life already.

Re:principal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903939)

If that's her birth name, I can't tell if her parents were evil or geniuses (or both).

Re:principal (1)

arth1 (260657) | about 2 years ago | (#39904411)

If that's her birth name, I can't tell if her parents were evil or geniuses (or both).

Quite possibly one or both of them were Superman fans.

Re:principal (1)

sco08y (615665) | about 2 years ago | (#39904355)

In stories like this, it's almost never worth reading the article, and the summary is usually wrong anyway. The reporter spent 400 words to expand a 40 word brief, and then another 600 words on a story that is only vaguely related because the principal apparently used the fake profile to spy on kids who supported some guy who was fired.

Having read this article closely, now I feel sorry for Ms. Bock that she's got such a shitty beat...

Re:principal (5, Informative)

Barbara, not Barbie (721478) | about 2 years ago | (#39904679)

n stories like this, it's almost never worth reading the article, and the summary is usually wrong anyway. The reporter spent 400 words to expand a 40 word brief, and then another 600 words on a story that is only vaguely related because the principal apparently used the fake profile to spy on kids who supported some guy who was fired.

Having read this article closely, now I feel sorry for Ms. Bock that she's got such a shitty beat...

Ms. Bock did more than just puff up a story - there was the fact-checking of school records to see if there was such a student, as well as a search of public records for ANYONE with that name. That's more than what passes for "reporting" on Faux News.

She also put it into the greater context of the on-going school board problems.

This site might as well rename itself CNN. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903443)

There's hardly any news for nerds anymore.

Re:This site might as well rename itself CNN. (1)

Sloppy (14984) | about 2 years ago | (#39905085)

That depends on the part of the story that's being left out: How did the quarterback figure out who the infiltrator was? Figuring out Suzy is fake: easy. Figuring out that Suzy is the principal: social engineered (CNN story) or other (maybe Slashdot story).

Re:This site might as well rename itself CNN. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39905087)

Nerds of today & the future != retro nerds

Something very similar happened at my school: (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903533)

I can't prove it, but students in my HS seemed to be punished almost *immediately* from certain FB postings, even postings made during school hours from cell phones, etc.

Either they had someone monitoring FB full time (doubtful), or there was a "trap" account disguised as a student that people friended by default believing the account was associated with a student at the school.

Re:Something very similar happened at my school: (2)

PPH (736903) | about 2 years ago | (#39903697)

Don't you have a couple of fake students' FB accounts? A couple of jocks, a couple of stoners (I know, redundant), etc. They can advertise the occasional kegger at the address of an empty lot and see how fast the cops show up.

More related to nerd news than you would think (5, Insightful)

parallel_prankster (1455313) | about 2 years ago | (#39903589)

I would say this one is still an okay story to put on Slashdot compared to some of the other constantly anti-Apple stories ( really, have we all come to a consensus Apple is evil and others are not? and I am not an Apple fan either ) and the anti-TSA stuff (how many stories do we need of that? We all are in agreement about that one for sure). Why is this particular story interesting? IMHO , how bad is faking your identity online ? I mean did she solicit students for sex ? or was it just to know the current vibe among? Did she just wanna be a cool principal by knowing what goes on among her students ? I briefly read the above article about the whole PE teacher thing. I dont know. Has no one used a fake name in real life ever? Does Facebook have a policy that you cannot lie about your age to underage kids ? I think it raises some interesting questions about online identities. I mean what if she was friends with some kid in the school and she got that kid to give her the username/password of their fb account (hypothetically speaking) and just looked at all her friends profiles and walls etc. Wouldn't that be similar to this?

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (2)

BasilBrush (643681) | about 2 years ago | (#39903667)

My guess is that she heard about the facebook page opposing the action against the coach, and created a fake account to read it. Then curiosity got the better of her and she started friending the students to see what they were up to.

Maybe she didn't realise it was wrong. Maybe she did, but the curiosity and feeling of anonymity got the better of her.

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (2)

Threni (635302) | about 2 years ago | (#39903967)

She pretended to be a student? Doesn't sound that wrong to me if that's all she did.

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (1)

jklovanc (1603149) | about 2 years ago | (#39904737)

From the article;

If administrators were monitoring students' Facebook activity without being truthful about their identity, that is a breach of trust, Brown said in an interview.

She pretended to be a student so that she could monitor student activity on Facebook. In my mind it is also fraud in that she misrepresented her identity to gain information that she would not normally have access to.

Her actions after she was found out is proof of a guilty conscience. Had she come out and admitted to faking an account and defended why she did it I may have believed that she had been mistaken in her actions. Instead, she ran, hid and quit her job; no apology, no explanation. Those are the action of someone who knew what she was doing was wrong. She may have been forced to resign by the board but that still does not rule out apologizing to the students whose trust she violated.

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (4, Insightful)

causality (777677) | about 2 years ago | (#39904773)

She pretended to be a student? Doesn't sound that wrong to me if that's all she did.

If she had time for this crap then her salary was useless overhead anyway.

Ever wonder why schools always need more and more money? Adjusted for inflation, expenditures for students and salaries for teachers haven't changed much at all relative to the far higher amount we pay for public schooling compared to 20-30 years ago. What has changed? The number of administrative staff has drastically increased.

And this is how they use their time?

Also, it bothers me the way you think it's acceptable for an authority figure to deceive impressionable young people in order to learn about things that happen outside of school that those young people would not have voluntarily shared with said authority figure. If you're a fan of authoritarianism and the use of surveillance with no justification, please explain why. Somehow I doubt you would personally like for your life to be subject to such people, but maybe I have that all wrong.

It's possible they'll never admit it, but many young people would love to see an authority figure who is honest, noble, and genuinely respectable. For most of them it would be the first time they have ever witnessed such a thing.

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (2)

swalve (1980968) | about 2 years ago | (#39905329)

I agree with some of this stuff, but what I find more wrong about the whole thing is that the principal *wanted* to know the facebook gossip. Bad priorities. A teacher, and especially an administrator, should really not be concerned with that stuff.

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (5, Insightful)

rohan972 (880586) | about 2 years ago | (#39904825)

Not that wrong? As an agent of the government at best it's a 4th amendment violation, it she was aiming to take action against people who criticized her that should be a 1st amendment violation.

There seems to be no possible motivation for this behavior that isn't pretty creepy. Maybe we just have different definitions of wrong.

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (3, Insightful)

maccodemonkey (1438585) | about 2 years ago | (#39904109)

"or was it just to know the current vibe among?"

JUST to know the current vibe amount?

JUST?

There are so many reasons this is wrong no matter the reasons. Whatever the principal's intentions, you'd still have access to information that if the principal even sees is a possible professional violation. Who's dating/sleeping with who, possible inappropriate pictures for an administrator to see (even kids in their swimsuits is extremely questionable), and yes, opinions on school staff that could bias her opinion in ways that it should not.

Whatever her intention, there is absolutely no professional excuse. She can't just filter out the safe information from the unsafe without seeing everything, which is the problem.

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904303)

It's the information students share WITH THE WHOLE WORLD ONLY?

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (2)

causality (777677) | about 2 years ago | (#39904789)

It's the information students share WITH THE WHOLE WORLD ONLY?

... that she felt a need to lie in order to obtain.

See, it's the lying and the blatant dishonesty that is the problem here. It should never be tolerated from any authority figure. Especially those who work with impressionable youth.

Is that really so difficult to understand?

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (4, Insightful)

maccodemonkey (1438585) | about 2 years ago | (#39904939)

It's the information students share WITH THE WHOLE WORLD ONLY?

No it's not. Facebook has privacy settings to select who you share information with. No, that's not ironclad, but it's also no excuse for the principal to misrepresent herself to acquire this information that she could have not easily acquired without friending the kids.

If the whole world could get at the info, she wouldn't have needed to friend them in the first place, would she?

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (2)

rohan972 (880586) | about 2 years ago | (#39904893)

You seem to acknowledge the possibility of good intentions. The "just to know the current vibe" comment you were replying to IS a bad intention. Government employees who deceive in order to monitor private communications are presumed to have bad intentions. If they have good intentions, they would obtain a warrant or be open about who they are and they're doing. The deception proves bad faith.

Forget the technology, imagine she had called them or wrote a letter claiming to be someone else, or put on a disguise and approached them out of school and tried to befriend them. I don't see any grey area on this issue.

Re:More related to nerd news than you would think (1)

maccodemonkey (1438585) | about 2 years ago | (#39904951)

My intent was to say that in her own head, she might think her actions were for the good of the school, but professionally there is no gray area in gaining private information on students without their legitimate consent, no matter what that information is.

So yeah, I agree with you.

First posQt (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903617)

on baby...don't is the group that ASSOCIATION OF in a head spinning SuDden and like I should be

Re:First posQt (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904881)

Yeah, man. Tell 'em!

Know your friends (5, Insightful)

bbartlog (1853116) | about 2 years ago | (#39903725)

When I was on Facebook, I didn't friend anyone unless I actually *knew* the person. If you friend someone on Facebook just because they friended you and you want a really big number of friends, well... the joke is probably on you.

Re:Know your friends (1)

causality (777677) | about 2 years ago | (#39904803)

When I was on Facebook, I didn't friend anyone unless I actually *knew* the person.

I feel the same way. That's why Facebook is completely useless to me and never appealed to me. Make sense? If I had some unhealthy need for the casual attention of strangers and distant acquaintences then I would have a case for using Facebook.

If I wanted substandard Web hosting or if I wanted to play frivolous mini-games I can do that without the long list of downsides that come with using Facebook.

Re:Know your friends (1)

Sloppy (14984) | about 2 years ago | (#39905135)

And even if you know a person by that name, then there's the next problem: authenticating. Hey Facebook, why no PGP signing of profile ids yet?

Re:Know your friends (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39905475)

Your post is only a thinly-veiled way of announcing to us all that you "used to" use Facebook, but you're better than that, now.

Surprisingly common occurence (2)

nlitement (1098451) | about 2 years ago | (#39903787)

I'm not sure who or what the persons are who do this, but as someone with around 300 Facebook friends, I've received at least 5 friend requests from dummy profiles (fake name, fake profile pic, awfully "sterile" personal info) with an oddly high number of mutual friends. I doubt it was any of our teachers as they use their real profiles and friended us if they wished to, including our principal. Could it be some sort of a bot for harvesting personal information that would otherwise be inaccessible to non-friends, or just a stalker from within my/my friends' social circle who's trying to remain anonyous?

Losos could be in the shit (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903809)

If "Suzy Harriston" was indeed a fake profile created by Losos, then she violated a recent Missouri law which went into effect this year which bans teachers from friending students. What's worse, the school district seems to be covering up any attempt to find out if that's the reason why she resigned.

Re:Losos could be in the shit, OR ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904153)

She might just have garnered herself a lucrative position in the Department of Homeland Security. Leaving the public school system, an industry under fire & in decline, for the one true growth industry in the USA -- the Police State Complex, might be a great career move.

Re:Losos could be in the shit (3, Interesting)

arth1 (260657) | about 2 years ago | (#39904369)

If "Suzy Harriston" was indeed a fake profile created by Losos, then she violated a recent Missouri law which went into effect this year which bans teachers from friending students.

Is a principal considered a teacher here in the US?
I grew up elsewhere, where the academic staff is separate from general staff, so this is a genuine question.

Re:Losos could be in the shit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904597)

In Canada, IIRC my principal acted as a substitute teacher for one or two classes when the sick call came in too late, and I believe he had an education degree. Not sure that anyone would have referred to him as a 'teacher' though.

Re:Losos could be in the shit (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#39904673)

Generally, for HR-type purposes, 'teachers' and 'administrators' are distinct groups(different salary structures, different hiring processes, administrators are frequently not unionized where teachers are, etc.). In practice, much of admin in a school district will have been drawn from the pool of teachers at some point in the past, and will have education and experience in teaching, some fresher than others.

Re:Losos could be in the shit (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39905425)

Is a principal considered a teacher here in the US?

The word "principal" is short for "principal teacher", from way back when.

I'm not quite sure when principals stopped teaching as a matter of course.

Re:Losos could be in the shit (2)

yoshi_mon (172895) | about 2 years ago | (#39905089)

I'm a little shocked that there are so many general shrugs in this thread at what she did. Everything between oh well it is Facebook, what do you expect? To that it is FOR THE CHILDREN!

I may have missed something but that was my 1st thought upon opening this thread was what is the legality here? And it took a lot of comments before anything was said to that point. Le sigh.

Re:Losos could be in the shit (1, Offtopic)

BootysnapChristAlive (2629837) | about 2 years ago | (#39905125)

Something is terribly amiss, my friend. I've been observing this phenomenon for some time now, but... could it be that you're not using Gamemaker? I'm detecting that you're not using Gamemaker (as you should be doing).

Return to Gamemakerdom. Return to it right this minuteness. What on Earth are you waiting for? Return to Gamemakerdom.

clicking without thinking.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39903897)

Another reason to "friend" only folks I know in IRL....

Re:clicking without thinking.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904953)

I think you mean AFK not IRL.

And she'd have gotten away with it too... (5, Funny)

m1kesm1th (305697) | about 2 years ago | (#39904071)

if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.

Re:And she'd have gotten away with it too... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904193)

Or if the QB didn't want to try to bed her alt.

Poor Suzy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904201)

Can't even make friends on Facebook like her.

That is a low level of sad.

RIP in peace.

Why do people add people they don't know?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39904465)

Obviously this is a bad thing but I don't understand how kids reason. Seriously, when someone tries to add me on Facebook and I don't know them then I ignore them. Being that the Facebook person was not even real she should not have had any friends. I guess if you don't add every random person you find on Facebook then you might miss out on random party invites to places you aren't really wanted.

Facebook (0, Offtopic)

roman_mir (125474) | about 2 years ago | (#39904705)

Since we are talking about FB for no reason, shouldn't more appropriate stories come up, like the fact that it's going IPO soon?

It's really amazing that the inflation is so gigantic now, that it destroyed so many businesses and killed off real savings, that the investors are flocking just to anything that has some buzz around it. Sure, sure, a half a billion to a billion accounts are there, it's a sea of information and contacts and eyeballs, it's really amazing that there are so many people using the same platform, but after everything it is just another site, it's not like there weren't sites like this before and nobody really prevents more sites like this from appearing in the near future. Are people really intimately tied to their FB accounts? I don't know, I am just asking. To me it looks like a huge inflation driven bubble and a reflection of our time of lack of genuine investment opportunities due to lack of real savings and freedoms, but maybe I am completely wrong on this, I just don't know.

Isn't that a more interesting story than somebody pretending to be somebody else?

How daft are these kids... (2)

superdude72 (322167) | about 2 years ago | (#39904999)

...to accept a friend request from someone they've never heard of? Is this why all the kids have 600 FB friends despite their actually pretty limited social circles?

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