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Stone-Throwing Chimp Back In the News With Better Plan

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the chimpan-with-a-plan dept.

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sciencehabit writes "Three years ago, a stone-throwing chimpanzee named Santino jolted the research community by providing some of the strongest evidence yet that non-humans could plan ahead. Santino, a resident of the Furuvik Zoo in Gävle, Sweden, calmly gathered stones in the mornings and put them into neat piles, apparently saving them to hurl at visitors when the zoo opened as part of angry and aggressive 'dominance displays.' But some researchers were skeptical that Santino really was planning for a future emotional outburst. Now Santino is back in the scientific literature, the subject of new claims that he has begun to conceal the stones so he can get a closer aim at his targets—further evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans do."

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235 comments

evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans... (5, Insightful)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954753)

And yet we still keep him, and his relatives, in a cage.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (4, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954785)

Well yeah, if humans threw stones at people we'd put them in a cage too called "jail"

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (5, Insightful)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955175)

Well yeah, if humans threw stones at people we'd put them in a cage too called "jail"

Usually the way that works is you throw the stones first and then get put in a cage. Not the other way around.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (4, Interesting)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955273)

Yeah, we should send the little guy back to the Congo so the locals can eat him [janegoodall.ca] .

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (4, Funny)

Kreigaffe (765218) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955707)

Or start leaving guns around in his enclosure until he learns how to defend himself and starts eating the locals

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (5, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#39956027)

He should be a gorilla warfare expert in no time!

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955319)

Well, if we were stupid enough to give the people in jail stones - I bet a significant number of them would get thrown. Fortunately, humans plan ahead enough to know it would be idiotic to allow prisoners to have stones. And we also seem to realize that taking kids on field trips to see humans in jail wouldn't be prudent either.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (3, Interesting)

garrettg84 (1826802) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955605)

And we also seem to realize that taking kids on field trips to see humans in jail wouldn't be prudent either.

Not the case - I was on a traveling football team in my younger years (early teen). We had drug and theft issues running through the community and team. We were actually brought to see the humans in jail. I decided at that moment that it was never going to be the place for me. Maybe we should take MORE of our kids to see humans in jail.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (0)

blue trane (110704) | more than 2 years ago | (#39956125)

Drugs are illegal mostly because some people want to control others. I guess you threw in your lot with the political power junkies?

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955711)

That was before we had precogs. Welcome to the future, caveman.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39956255)

It is like the perfect metaphor for modern society.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (4, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954793)

Humans who plan their aggressive dominance displays ahead of time also tend to receive longer periods of imprisonment as well(unless elected to suitably high office, or endorsed therefrom, of course)...

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (2, Funny)

dmbasso (1052166) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955171)

So the detention without a trial that was approved in the US is just an extension of what was already done to the monkeys? It's nice to know the US is working towards interspecies equality!

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955383)

I'm pretty sure that you aren't allowed to waterboard chimps these days. The IRBs just get touchy.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (4, Funny)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954803)

Except we call his relative's cages "cubes."

Now, excuse me, I need to go have my banana for lunch.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (2)

Beardo the Bearded (321478) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954993)

You wait until lunch? I have a banana break at 10:30 each morning.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (1)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955029)

You wait until lunch? I have a banana break at 10:30 each morning.

You get breaks?

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955123)

I get breaks, who doesn't?

Well, OK, I hide in the restroom and call it a break...

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (5, Funny)

garrettg84 (1826802) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955623)

Oh no, that's not a banana.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (4, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955731)

MY banana break is at 11:45, and we start throwing feces around 3:12 pm. Unless the hot receptionist is here, then we all run around with our chests puffed up...

BRB, I need to jump on daves desk and scream at him.

Just another day in Corporate america.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (0)

SJester (1676058) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955181)

Dammit, I need mod points.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (1)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955557)

Except we call his relative's cages "cubes." Now, excuse me, I need to go have my banana for lunch.

In lieu of (+6, Sad-But-True), please accept this cartoon, which hangs on my cage wall: I'm the next contestant on the hot new game show: Who's the dumb ape? [thebaba.com]

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39954807)

He's planning to throw stones! At humans.

Also, didn't you ever watch Planet of the Apes?

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955333)

He's planning to throw stones! At humans.

Yes, because humans have never done anything to him. I don't think I've ever been to a zoo and not witnessed a teenager taunt the primates. Or put the chip in the cage to begin with.

Also, didn't you ever watch Planet of the Apes?

I suppose you missed the part at the end where the humans had nuked the planet.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955015)

Since they're that smart, they'd have escaped already if they wanted it. They're just waiting and giving us a false sense of security until they make their move for global revolution.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (3, Funny)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955443)

they're in sweden. they might have figured out it's not worth escaping to the wild.

the dude still needs a way to show off aggressive dominance to get chicks though, regardless of imprisonment.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (1)

pipatron (966506) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955691)

Swinging from branch to branch in our dense spruce forests could be difficult.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (1)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955193)

Yeah. Clearly we should let the monkeys free. Those cages could be used for bankers and politicians who, unlike this story, have proven they have no ability to think ahead.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (1)

Gideon Wells (1412675) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955667)

Considering he seems to be acting like a cranky old man, and considering where we stick our cranky elderly relatives? Sounds like he is a bit better ahead.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (2)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955695)

Feel free to go give one a hug, they rip faces off.
They need to be in a cage...otherwise the next step is the statue of liberty buried up to her neck on a beach!

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39956141)

And yet we still keep him, and his relatives, in a cage.

Not all of them. Many live in Queens, NY.

Re:evidence that he is thinking ahead like humans. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39956271)

Stone-Throwing Chimp Back In the News With Better Plan

Huh? He was just on the news last night boasting how he's for homosex 'marriages' - NOW what's his plan?

WhT is the time scale of "plan"? (2)

noh8rz3 (2593935) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954759)

They must have a clinical definition of "planning" that is more precise than we normally think of animals. Cuz I can tell you that my dog used to plan ahead. He was devious! Maybe this has to do with the time scale - she would usually make 5 minute plans, rather than 2 hours or whatever the monkey's time scale is.

Re:WhT is the time scale of "plan"? (2)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954819)

My dog is the type of moron who will walk into walls because he's distracted, but he's executed surprisingly complex plots when it comes to stealing rawhide from the other dog. He even has a Plan B called "whine until Daddy gets annoyed and fills the Kong with cheese whiz which is even better!"

Re:WhT is the time scale of "plan"? (2)

newcastlejon (1483695) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955067)

*snip* Maybe this has to do with the time scale - she would usually make 5 minute plans, rather than 2 hours or whatever the monkey's time scale is.

I don't wish to sound petty, but chimpanzees are apes. I'm sure you know that but if a monkey was seen planning like this then it would be much bigger news. As you say, it's probably a question of timescales; our dog may have been bright but I can't recall her ever planning like this unless you count burying things in the garden.

Re:WhT is the time scale of "plan"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955199)

"I don't wish to sound petty, but chimpanzees are apes."

Oooook!

Bullwinkle never knew (3, Interesting)

Brainman Khan (1330847) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954789)

Don't Squirrels store nuts??

Re:Bullwinkle never knew (1)

ArsonSmith (13997) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954855)

The difference being a survival instinct vs. plans for an emotional outburst.

Re:Bullwinkle never knew (1)

b0bby (201198) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954861)

I think that's more of a burying instinct; they don't actually remember where they bury them, but if there are enough buried all around they have a decent chance of finding one when the start looking.

Re:Bullwinkle never knew (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954879)

I think the difference here is that squirrels do it on an instinctive level... and the vast majority of the nuts they store never get used and the few that are usually get re-discovered by accident. Squirrels don't show any evidence of storing nuts because they know it will be cold... just that's what instinct drives them to do. I'd bet that if you took a squirrel at birth and kept it somewhere that's always a stable, warm temperature then it would still store nuts even though it had no idea why it was doing it.

Re:Bullwinkle never knew (4, Funny)

mcmonkey (96054) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954955)

Would you claim it is just instinct that causes cats to lurk on stairs, and they're not planning for when a person walks by?

Re:Bullwinkle never knew (1)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955195)

Would you claim it is just instinct that causes cats to lurk on stairs, and they're not planning for when a person walks by?

Pak chooie meow?

Re:Bullwinkle never knew (1)

Spiridios (2406474) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955675)

Pak chooie meow?

The Terrible Secret Of... Cats?

Re:Bullwinkle never knew (5, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955203)

No. Cats are obviously evil genius masterminds who have plans stretching from the dawn of time until the re-awakening of the Great Old Ones. No instinct - just pure, unadulterated malevolence.

Re:Bullwinkle never knew (1)

NatasRevol (731260) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955429)

They hear you coming and want to play. That's not planning.

Re:Bullwinkle never knew (5, Insightful)

BriggsBU (1138021) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955129)

Instinctual behaviors are not considered planned behaviors. This is a unique display from the chimp in question that other chimps don't do, so it is not instinctual. Previous questions were if it was perhaps a learned behavior or that the initial gathering and stockpiling was unrelated to the use of the rocks to throw at zoo visitors. The fact that he seems to have recognized that he has a better chance of successfully attacking the visitors by portraying peaceful action and concealing his weapons gives much more evidence that this chimp is capable of advanced thought and planning.

learning to lie (5, Insightful)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954809)

He isn't just planning ahead, and then coming up with a new plan. He's being deceptive.

Re:learning to lie (2)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954835)

And what surer sign of intelligence do we have?

Re:learning to lie (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39954917)

He isn't just planning ahead, and then coming up with a new plan. He's being deceptive.

And what surer sign of intelligence do we have?

Having the qualities necessary to be an attorney, politician, or investment banker does not constitute intelligence.

Re:learning to lie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955041)

If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?

Re:learning to lie (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955477)

Waitin on the lottery!

Re:learning to lie (2)

Splab (574204) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954961)

Comparing to some of the baggers at the local supermarket, I'd question the intelligence classification of humans (not all baggers are morons).

Re:learning to lie (2)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955061)

If he reports a fault in the AE35 unit, don't go out to fix it.

Re:learning to lie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955165)

im sorry dave, i cant do that

Re:learning to lie (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955093)

So what? Any animal that plays dead is being deceptive. Any that uses camouflage or mimicry is being deceptive. Cats use deception to fool their prey into believing they aren't paying attention. Deception isn't in short supply in the animal kingdom.

Re:learning to lie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955131)

So he's overqualified for public office, then?

nah, just casting the first stone (2)

tomzyk (158497) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955213)

No, not deceptive.
He's just showing off his knowledge and understanding of our human religious scriptures, as well as showing that he himself is without sin.

Sheesh. You psychologist-type people will just read ANYthing into some situations. ;-)

Not surprising (1)

pwnyxpress (2597273) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954817)

The rocks he is throwing are planning ahead as much as a few people I know.

Stone Throwing Chimps - Found more of them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39954833)

I know where there are a whole bunch of them, every day they throw stones at a big block of stone in the middle of a desert. They even plan ahead by going to that one place at least once in their lifetime so they can go throw stones at a big rock.

Re:Stone Throwing Chimps - Found more of them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955073)

whats that? Post NASCAR festivities?

Re:Stone Throwing Chimps - Found more of them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955387)

I think they mean some place in the middle east where they throw stones at the "devil" as part of a ridiculous religious fervor. This is something that only those backwards Christians could invent...

Yay for science! (1, Insightful)

T.E.D. (34228) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954859)

How wonderful that our imprisonment of these creatures is causing them mental and emotional problems resulting in behavior that is so useful for scientific study!

Re:Yay for science! (4, Informative)

Xiaran (836924) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955075)

Do be fair chimps are kinds of assholes in the wild. When they come across a groups of chimps smaller than them they slaughter them... if the same size or greater they put on dominance displays and they leave.

Re:Yay for science! (-1, Troll)

Empiric (675968) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955525)

Wait, wait... you're messing with Slashdot's standard Dawkins-Hitchens understanding that evolution works by the mechanisms of rainbows and lollypops, and all evil started with the creation of religion.

Self-refuting arguments aren't as amusing as self-eliminating arguments, though, I find.

Re:Yay for science! (1)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955551)

When they come across a groups of chimps smaller than them they slaughter them

I saw that one time on some special. There was a small group of chimps, 4 I think, who climbed up trees and surrounded a monkey. The monkey kept jumping from tree limb to tree limb trying to escape but in the end, the chimps caught him. The next thing they did was beat the bugger against the tree until it was dead and then ate him.

So, we have planning (I want to eat that monkey), group coordination (you go there, I'll go here), intent (we're going to kill that guy) with an overall end point (we get to eat meat).

Maybe not the brightest of the apes, but most definitely intelligent.

Re:Yay for science! (1)

powerlinekid (442532) | more than 2 years ago | (#39956097)

How is that all that different than a pack of wolves finding, stalking and killing prey?

I agree that Apes are intelligent, more so than canines, but this is a poor example.

Re:Yay for science! (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955989)

The females also kill the young of other females out of jealousy.

How much is admission? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39954863)

I might be interested in seeing this ape but I think if we're sent in as targets, admission should probably be free (unless they're going for the kink crowd, in which case they could probably charge a couple hundred per person.)

Meh (4, Interesting)

mingot (665080) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954909)

I would go and see this chimp if they would let me throw the stones back at him. Hell, I'd even pay good money.

Re:Meh (1)

Loughla (2531696) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955223)

See, now that's the kind of thinking we need more of. What's that zoo? The government is cutting your budget? Let me whip some bottles at the manatees. Maybe let me try to lasso a giraffe.

I'm catching a freaking lemur. I bet they taste delicious.

Re:Meh (2)

NatasRevol (731260) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955519)

You wouldn't want that. I promise you, he's a lot better at it than you are.

Re:Meh (4, Funny)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955737)

From inside or outside the cage, tough guy?

the the monkey can plan ahead... (0)

mallydobb (1785726) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954927)

then there's hope for American politicians...yay!

Re:the the monkey can plan ahead... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955411)

Well, he can plan ahead to the extent that stockpiling a hidden supply of weapons is planning ahead.

This might not be helpful in the more general case of "not fucking the future up so you get a bribe now" which is what we generally struggle to teach in politicians.

Primate Dominance Displays (1)

Guppy (12314) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954941)

Santino, a resident of the Furuvik Zoo in Gävle, Sweden, calmly gathered stones in the mornings and put them into neat piles, apparently saving them to hurl at visitors when the zoo opened as part of angry and aggressive 'dominance displays.'

As a stone-thrower, he's already advanced further politically than we have, seeing as how we are still at the poo-throwing dominance display stage.

Me too. (4, Funny)

AntEater (16627) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954965)

I tried this at work but the custodial staff kept finding my little piles of rocks and removing them from my office. Sometimes it doesn't pay to plan ahead.

Re:Me too. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955481)

You just need a better plan. Pile the rocks in your desk drawer where the custodial staff should not be looking.

Re:Me too. (1)

NatasRevol (731260) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955547)

Why do you think he learned to hide them?

Perhaps you could ape him.

what's next? (2)

dominious (1077089) | more than 2 years ago | (#39954981)

Next they will tell us about chimps that have writing skills, and about smoke-grenade throwing chimps with devious plan to kill all humans...

My dog plans ahead. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955001)

If I give 2 bones to my dog and he is full he will bury them for later eating. To me that is planning ahead

For all his advanced planning (4, Interesting)

S3D (745318) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955021)

Santino was castrated [wikipedia.org] . Seems zookeepers decided his planning ability was too advanced for their liking. Thing to remember for one intending to show advanced planning ability to more technologically advanced species.

Re:For all his advanced planning (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955647)

Perhaps he should have learned calculus instead
MORDIN SOLUS: "Never experiment on species with members capable of calculus; Simple rule, never broke it."

GOOD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955031)

Good for him. using the tools at hand to fight his oppression.

Andy Warhol (1)

Exitar (809068) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955045)

"In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes, except stone-throwing chimps, that will be for 30."

Uhmm. Duh..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955049)

How is this news? How do scientific not already know this?
  Don't Squirrels plan ahead for winter? They bury food months ahead of when they will need it.
Don't Leopards drag their kills into trees to save their meals for later? Or plan their menu for tomorrow?
Bower birds plan out the design of their nests in extreme detail and then tear them down when bad weather is coming through. That's involves very detailed Planning.
Even dogs will bring their toys to the front door hours before a person comes home from work because they are planning for that person to show up and play.

It's like Mr. Obvious became a scientist and needs a reason to request grant money. Next week Scientist discover that animals hate fire because it's hot.

Re:Uhmm. Duh..... (2)

avgjoe62 (558860) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955215)

Next week Scientist discover that animals hate fire because it's hot.

Animals don't hate fire because it's hot. They hate fire because it is hot AND filthy rich...

Duh, indeed (2)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955301)

There's a difference between doing something by instinct, and developing a new behavior in response to personal experiences. Squirrels don't bury food because they remember getting hungry last winter; they just do it. Leopards certainly don't "plan their menu for tomorrow". A dog bringing toys to the front door is simply a learned behavior, repeating something they did by chance previously that resulted in a positive outcome. What appears to be happening here is the chimp devising a new behavior, not by chance, but by anticipating the future.

Re:Uhmm. Duh..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955393)

The question is whether it's instinct or conscious planning. Seeing a squirrel bury nuts all the damn time doesn't show whether he has an instinctive urge to bury nuts, or whether he's planning 6 months ahead (and I'd bet the former, in this case -- even humans aren't real good at planning 6 months ahead). Seeing a chimp start piling rocks (which chimps don't, as far as we know, generally do in the wild) to throw at people later that day seems like a plan over the scale of several hours (which is what we might expect a chimp to deal with, since it's about as far as stupid people can deal with), and when he adapts that plan to hiding them, it's damn sure that's not instinct.

The other examples you give are more plausible as instances of planning instead of instinct, but there are still people who want/need to believe that humans are fundamentally different from all other animals, so they're pretty good at ruling those out. The scientists aren't publishing this because they think it's an astounding thing that animals plan, but because they think it's a new piece of evidence that may persuade some assholes to reconsider their worldview and accept the obvious.

On the plus side. (1)

phazemstr (1405173) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955127)

At least he isn't thinking like a chimp and throwing poo.

Re:On the plus side. (1)

Adam Appel (1991764) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955453)

One of the zoo keepers said that Santino does not like gooy stuff on his hands; including but not limited to poo.

Next up for study: (1)

fredrated (639554) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955267)

why humans always insist that all animal behavior is instinctual and not thoughtful.

Gotta watch this chimp. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955293)

If he keeps getting smarter, he'll eventually start listening to hiphop, drinking malt liquor and collecting welfare. And we can't have that.

Wrong name (2)

talleyrand (318969) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955305)

No, Santino aka Sonny [wikipedia.org] was the hot headed one as evinced by his death at the tollbooth. This ape, his methodical planning sounds much more like a Michael [wikipedia.org] to me. I suspect the research community was tipped off by an ape named Fredo, the stupid git.

No kidding Sherlock (4, Interesting)

judoguy (534886) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955363)

Man, I coulda told you this 45 years ago.

My family was driving through Florida in the 60s and we stopped at some wretched “jungle zoo” by the side of the road. I ran ahead of the rest looking at the really sad caged animals and saw the chimp cage. It had ragged poly sheets hanging in front with big holes and tears in them with a chimp sitting quietly. As soon as I got close enough, the chimp sprayed me with a most foul mouthful of something bad and jumped down to a bucketful of nasty and sucked up another huge mouthful.

I wasn’t the brightest bulb on the tree but even I knew to run like hell. This happened in full view of my family who promptly collapsed in hysterical laughter. The chimp knew exactly what it was doing and planned accordingly.

Oh. (1)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 2 years ago | (#39955389)

So this is what happens when stone-throwing chimps are kept away from /b/ !

If only (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955721)

the typical republican voter could plan this far in advance.

An obvious mix up.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39955839)

I'm assuming that some poor researcher got this study confused with another on Dick Chenney's strategic defense plans.

He isnt smart, humans are just pretentious. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39956003)

Still this is a stupid as they come. The problem is humans are proud, so they will convince themselves that they have discovered something and congratulate themselves on a job well done. All the researchers are busy patting themselves on the back and thinking they are smart and insightful and they have really uncovered something here when all they did was just notice something the chimp does normally.

You dunk a new born baby underwater and they hold their breath, squirrels will bury nuts to keep for the winter time to dig up later, dogs bury bones to dig up later when they want them, alligators will stuff prey under a log or rock in the river to come back and eat later, birds sometimes will hide bits of trash and grass inside tree holes to use for when they build their nest. None of them are actually making a concious act or planning ahead, they are doing what animals do normally. Its built into the genetic structure to do certain things.

I mean hell my cat knows about what time of day I come home and she waits on the steps by the door. But that doesnt mean she says "Well its 430 so he will be home soon. Id better go wait for him on the steps". Much like the chimp knows its scared and feels threatened and has gotten used to the thing its afraid to come around at certain periods so it waits to defend itself.

If someone came into my home and locked me in a cage someplace Id be pissed also.

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