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Facebook Tests the Waters With Paid Perks

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the pay-me-in-certified-adulons dept.

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CNET reports that Facebook has experimented lately with a small group of users by offering people the chance to promote their own account status messages the old-fashioned way: by paying for them. The author of the linked article asks whether it's inevitable that "Facebook will have to start dinging users in earnest," post-IPO. Facebook still says "It's free and always will be," but that doesn't rule out paying for additional features — that's certainly a model that many game makers had adopted.

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Hew! (-1, Offtopic)

Clean,Clean,Clean! (2638283) | about 2 years ago | (#39990863)

A few months ago, I accepted what at first appeared to be a very simple job: remove a virus from someone's computer. Given the fact that I owned a PC repair shop (and I still do) and had over 15 years of experience, I was confident that I could complete the job in a timely manner without any complications along the way. Little did I know, however, that accepting this job would spiral my life into a nightmarish den of anguish and uncertainty.

First, I tried booting up the PC. When Windows finally loaded, it became apparent that this was no ordinary virus; it was a merciless monstrosity of a virus that would stop at nothing to ruin your entire life. However, despite this, I bravely pressed on and attempted to combat the virus. "I absolutely will not let a mere virus scare me off!" I thought.

After numerous unsuccessful attempts at removing the virus and after exhausting every single option to combat viruses that I had, I finally realized that the situation was absolutely devoid of hope. This was a virus more fearsome than any other, and it was simply impossible for someone with my abilities (skilled as I was) to fight against it alone. Even reinstalling the operating system completely didn't help. I quickly sank into a pit of depression and despair.

Being that I was extremely stressed due to my numerous failures, I began verbally abusing my wife and kids a few days after I received the job. This situation soon worsened when I began resorting to physical abuse in order to relieve some of my anger. Eventually, after not being able to withstand my daughter's constant moans and whines any longer, I locked her in the basement in order to retain an ounce of my sanity.

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Re:Hew! (-1, Offtopic)

bartoku (922448) | about 2 years ago | (#39990991)

Why not extract the user data from the hard drive, ideally with a non-Windows PC to avoid infection.
Then reformat the PC? No risk that MyCleanPC might miss something, no extra software like MyCleanPC left on the system.

Re:Hew! (4, Insightful)

ThePeices (635180) | about 2 years ago | (#39991005)

MyCleanPC is a scam. Please dont feed the trolls.

Re:Hew! (1)

Lord_of_the_nerf (895604) | about 2 years ago | (#39991657)

Well, they're a third party that takes private information with your unwitting consent.

So really, if they just let you post pictures of your cat and passive-aggressive pleas for attention, it would be worth $95 billion.

sage and report (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991633)

You see the flag there on the lower right of the message?

Click it.

"spam"

Bam, done.

Re:Hew! (-1, Troll)

Osgeld (1900440) | about 2 years ago | (#39991281)

"Even reinstalling the operating system completely didn't help"

Horseshit, in this day in age its rare to see something infect the MBR or BIOS, and even if it did, your shitty little scam will do fuck all nothing as all it does is scan the registry and imagine threats that do not exist

fuck off and die already

Freemium at its best (5, Interesting)

manekineko2 (1052430) | about 2 years ago | (#39990879)

So first Facebook's algorithm hides my posts from my friends for reasons known only to Facebook.

Now Facebook is testing the option so I can pay so that my posts they hid will actually show to my friends.

In a way, I really hope Facebook goes through with this, maybe it'll be the straw that finally breaks the camels back and we can get a new social network that actually cares about its users.

Re:Freemium at its best (-1, Flamebait)

moozey (2437812) | about 2 years ago | (#39990927)

Do you have an example of this? I've never had this problem, I don't think. Are you talking about the "Sort" function for the news feed where it's automatically set to "Top Stories" (posts that have been deemed most popular by how many comments/likes they attract), but users have to manually set it to "Most Recent" in that it displays all posts in chronological order regardless of popularity?

Re:Freemium at its best (4, Insightful)

Culture20 (968837) | about 2 years ago | (#39991805)

It started about a couple years ago, I missed some big announcements from close friends, and found out that FB started limiting the news feed to only certain friends' statuses. There was temporarily an option to expand it to everyone again, but that disappeared more than a year ago to. Now if you're narcissistic enough, you can ensure that your friends see your status message. FB will cease to become a source of communication soon because people like free, but they like free+works better, and there are other free communication methods that don't arbitrarily drop your messages and offer to charge you to resend them.

Re:Freemium at its best (1)

moozey (2437812) | about 2 years ago | (#39992623)

Ah, yep, gotcha. I remember when they rolled out that feature and I also managed to change it back via certain settings. I didn't realise they'd made it a permanent feature now though. Spewin'!

Re:Freemium at its best (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39990937)

So first Facebook's algorithm hides my posts from my friends for reasons known only to Facebook.

You're doing it wrong.

Now Facebook is testing the option so I can pay so that my posts they hid will actually show to my friends.

No, it allows you to pay for premium space - you know, like advertisers do - most people won't want to do that though.

In a way, I really hope Facebook goes through with this, maybe it'll be the straw that finally breaks the camels back and we can get a new social network that actually cares about its users.

You really think everyone is just going to transition to some other social network because of this? Only a vocal minority really gives 2 shits about all of the 'evil' of corporations like Facebook and Google and Microsoft and Apple, to the degree that they would be willing to change products, it's pretty naive to think otherwise.

Re:"You're doing it wrong" (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991159)

I don't know about *posts*, however I do know that Facebook does not always show your *likes* to friends. I'm not talking about likes of someone's status where it'd be understandable if your friend couldn't see it because he's not a friend of the friend whose status you liked. I'm talking about your likes of pages or comments on pages or links, where ALL of your friends should be able to see those likes. How do I know that not all of my likes are seen by my friends? Because I created a second facebook account (that I friended) just for the purpose of getting to see EXACTLY what activity of mine my friends see.

Re:Freemium at its best (2)

Sir_Sri (199544) | about 2 years ago | (#39991905)

And, inevitably, if you want a business that can sustain itself it needs revenue. If you don't pay for it, advertisers are paying and you're actually the product.

As sad as it is, facebook would probably have to be a whole lot more honest and respectful of your data if they charged you to use their service than when they're trying to eek out every penny of advertising dollars.

Facebook sustains itself because users are too cheap to cough up cash up front (and probably legitimately too skeptical of any new social network getting their CC info), and if it's free why would you change to someone else who is also free? As you correctly say, only a small minority cares or understands the 'evil' corporations and their TOS's.

If Apple made the next social network it *might* have a chance, apparently steve jobs reality distortion bubble is persisting through death. People still think of of Microsoft as BSOD windows 95, and blame them for their shitty computers with shitty software they installed running windows poorly, so microsoft can't do it. Google tried and failed, because google plus doesn't really offer anything worth switching over. So who are the 'internet' or technology companies going to fill this niche facebook has? They'll have to do something monstrous to the page (myspace) for people to flee to a simpler product, who would have to be free, because no one is going to give a new company their CC info. And if they're free, they'll do exactly the same thing facebook does with your data, sell it to the highest bidder, lowest bidder, and all other bidders.

Re:Freemium at its best (2)

rtb61 (674572) | about 2 years ago | (#39992607)

Ohh Crap!

There will be a massive push to drive up Facebooks income by any means possible to ramp up the valuation of the company regardless of the consequences. Choke the chicken too hard and it never comes it just dies.

That's exactly what is, repeat, is going to happen. They will use Facebook shares as junk bonds to buy in revenue by buying other tech companies and then market that as increased revenue, they will add new charges everywhere they can think of and they will push against people's addiction to facebook. They will do everything in their power to create a Facebook fiscal bubble.

We are talking Goldman 'we don't give a crap show me the money now' Sachs. All they need is one year pump and dump and kaboom, the pension funds get stuck with another lemon.

Re:Freemium at its best (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39990941)

Just a heads-up. Your post that aren't showing up -- that's because your friends asked facebook to stop showing them. Then when you noticed they were like, "I don't know, why didn't see it? Oh man, facebook is so weird. Hiding stuff for _NO REASON_"

Re:Freemium Frendium (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991019)

> because your friends asked facebook to stop showing them. Then > when you noticed ... they were like, "I don't know, why didn't see it? > Oh man, facebook is so weird. Hiding stuff for _NO REASON_ !!! " This is the damn plain truth. You can unsubscribe someone; they keep seeing you, and have no fugging idea they're unliked. Frendium.

Re:Freemium at its best (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991441)

Umm, no. I don't see things that my wife posts. She'll be sitting at the desk next to mine and tell me she posted some pictures or whatever and there will be nothing in my feed. I can wait a while and refresh the feed and still nothing. If I go to her profile, there they are. I have no idea why this happens. and it happens seemingly at random with only some of her posts. It's hard to check if it happens with everyone, since I only have a few Facebook friends and it's not like I'm regularly checking their profiles to see if they've posted other things I don't see. I'm subscribed to "All Updates".

Re:Freemium at its best (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39992237)

As if anyone cares what their wife has to say.

Re:Freemium at its best (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39992321)

Yeah, but Failbook knows she's your wife so you don't want to see her posts, so it's hiding them

Re:Freemium at its best (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39990963)

I have several former coworkers that now work for Facebook. The fact that the vast majority of posts you would find interesting are now hidden is a bug with their new sorting algorithm. They're still working on it. For now, one friend recommended using the old "Most Recent" feature instead of the broken "Top Stories" feature. My feed is 90+% Cityville crap even though I have the game blocked.

I know how frustrating it is. I posted a story a couple of weeks ago that I was going to be in the hospital for nearly a week for emergency surgery. Not a single person I've talked to since then saw the post. It was depressing thinking no one cared when in reality no one knew.

Re:Freemium at its best (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991691)

Yes we all knew.

Re:Freemium at its best (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991763)

Why not disable the broken feature while it is being fixed?

Re:Freemium at its best (1)

advocate_one (662832) | about 2 years ago | (#39991873)

the problem there is that you posted it as a status post... if you'd really wanted to get their attention, you should have sent it as a message instead...

Re:Freemium at its best (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39992005)

You could have sent an email to a bunch of people. I hear that works.

Re:Freemium at its best (4, Insightful)

black6host (469985) | about 2 years ago | (#39992243)

I know how frustrating it is. I posted a story a couple of weeks ago that I was going to be in the hospital for nearly a week for emergency surgery. Not a single person I've talked to since then saw the post. It was depressing thinking no one cared when in reality no one knew.

Sorry you had to go through that. Honestly. But you know what? If I went into the hospital for emergency surgery anyone I wanted to know would know. I don't have a facebook account. And I'd never create one and expect it to act as a tool to disseminate critical information. It was important to you that people knew but you relied on a mechanism that is geared towards monetizing you and if it works for you all the better. If it doesn't, oh well. Not like you can sue them over it.

I'm not trying to be harsh, and I do feel for you. Next time, use the phone (you had time to post to facebook, all it takes is one phone call to spread the word....)

Re:Freemium at its best (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39992597)

This is precisely the reason facebook is crap. It pretends to be about communication, as a 'tool' to use to spread the word. Then when it doesn't work people like you say 'well what do you expect': Well I'd expect it to work!

But you're right, other methods are better, and the people that matter should know another way, which is another reason FB is crap because it replaces good communication with bad.

Re:Freemium at its best (1)

fa2k (881632) | about 2 years ago | (#39992641)

I know how frustrating it is. I posted a story a couple of weeks ago that I was going to be in the hospital for nearly a week for emergency surgery. Not a single person I've talked to since then saw the post. It was depressing thinking no one cared when in reality no one knew.

It was important to you that people knew but you relied on a mechanism that is geared towards monetizing you and if it works for you all the better. If it doesn't, oh well. Not like you can sue them over it.

Heh, maybe you can sue then if you payed them (like in the story)

Re:Freemium at its best (3, Insightful)

XahXhaX (730306) | about 2 years ago | (#39992317)

Just imagine how bad it must have been before there was a Facebook, and there was no way to let another person know about such important news and emergencies!

Re:Freemium at its best (2, Insightful)

ThePeices (635180) | about 2 years ago | (#39991007)

Why wait?

I ditched Facebook early this year, and havent looked back.

Reading posts like this reinforces my decision.

Re:Freemium at its best (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991105)

Well, you're being fooled. The OP is either a troll or a fool. I haven't seen this problem on FB.
 
Of course, that won't stop you from going out and professing that it's the truth of god or anything.

Re:Freemium at its best (1)

MiG82au (2594721) | about 2 years ago | (#39992297)

The old "I haven't seen it, so it's false". Nice. I subscribed to all, and wondered why I see so few active people on FB. Surely they aren't all just lurking? Nope, going to their wall shows they have said many things I have not seen (I look multiple times per day). But hey, I must be imagining it because you haven't seen it.

Re:Freemium at its best (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991327)

Area Man Constantly Mentioning He Doesn't Have a Facebook Profile

Re:Freemium at its best (2)

flibbidyfloo (451053) | about 2 years ago | (#39991183)

Hahaha! There will never be a social network that "cares about its users" more than it cares about money. Unless it's founded by the FOSS movement. How many people are using Diaspora again?

Re:Freemium at its best (1, Offtopic)

Shavano (2541114) | about 2 years ago | (#39991373)

Hahaha! There will never be a social network that "cares about its users" more than it cares about money. Unless it's founded by the FOSS movement. How many people are using Diaspora again?

But the FOSS movement cares more about ideology than users...

Re:Freemium at its best (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991437)

Like unity/gnome.

Re:Freemium at its best (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991413)

"Now Facebook is testing the option so I can pay so that my posts they hid will actually show to my friends."

Nice posts you have here, it would be a shame if something happened to them.

Re:Freemium at its best (1, Insightful)

rgbrenner (317308) | about 2 years ago | (#39991611)

"cares about it's users"? Are you kidding me? Do you know how much it costs to run facebook? For bandwidth, servers, electricity, etc for 900 million users?

$600 million for equipment in 2011, and another $500 million this year. (source [datacenterknowledge.com])

That's just for equipment. Plus you have to pay for developers, server admins, office space, etc, etc, etc.

Anyone who thinks they are going to start a service to replace facebook without making money their #1 priority is an idiot who will fail the moment they have to open a hundred million $ data center.

Re:Freemium at its best (3, Interesting)

timeOday (582209) | about 2 years ago | (#39991735)

And yet, there is craigslist. No I'm not saying it's an alternative to facebook, I'm pointing out how amazingly user-centered it has remained. In fact "earnest" might even be a better word. Thank you Craig Newmark.

Re:Freemium at its best (4, Interesting)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about 2 years ago | (#39992069)

Anyone who thinks they are going to start a service to replace facebook without making money their #1 priority is an idiot who will fail the moment they have to open a hundred million $ data center.

That is only true if the idea is to replace facebook with a facebook clone. That will never happen.

What could happen is a distributed social network. One of the most common effects of the internet has been disintermediation. The thing is that facebook itself is ripe for disintermediation - it has set itself up as the intermediary for hundreds of millions of people. But we don't need facebook to get between us and our friends.

I expect to see facebook left in the dustbin of internet history by software that runs mostly on our phones. It won't be much longer until phones will have terabytes of storage and constant high-bandwidth connections - even with cell tower bandwidth at such a premium, most people are within the range of a friendly wifi hotspot for the majority of their day. The need for centralization is practically over with already. You can host your "wall" and your photo albums and whatever other media you want directly on your phone and you'll get 100% of what makes facebook valuable to 99% of its users without all of the pandering to Big Data's stalking addiction.

All it is going to take is a good quality phone-centric social network app and facebook will shrivel up and blow the way of myspace and geocities.

Re:Freemium at its best (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | about 2 years ago | (#39992311)

Probably there will be something new sooner or later, but centralised systems like Facebook have advantages.

Availability of content. You're not leaving your phone on all the time, and I'm not sure how fast your upload is, nor about your data limits. And that's assuming you have a smartphone and that you have a data connection with it. Having it on a centralised server negates these issues: always available, always fast. Reliability of an organised centrailised system is better than that of a disorganised decentralised system. Especially when those centralised system spreads out over multiple locations/networks like Facebook and other big providers already do.

Sending messages: an intermediate is almost a must, when the clients are not sure to be online all the time. You can post messages, leave them on the central server, and recipient can read them sometime later.

Contact management, searching for friends, etc: we all know how well search works on a fully decentralised system like Gnutella. Without centralised index search just doesn't scale well.

I'd like to know how current Facebook can be done with a fully decentralised system. The "likes", the news feed with updates from friends who may or may not be online right then, etc.

Re:Freemium at its best (3, Insightful)

devphaeton (695736) | about 2 years ago | (#39992241)

So first Facebook's algorithm hides my posts from my friends for reasons known only to Facebook.

Now Facebook is testing the option so I can pay so that my posts they hid will actually show to my friends.

In a way, I really hope Facebook goes through with this, maybe it'll be the straw that finally breaks the camels back and we can get a new social network that actually cares about its users.

While I agree that the new features are silly and a thinly veiled attempt at capitalizing upon the public, shall we all remember that when we post things on Facebook, we are voluntarily using a free service on the Internet? At any point we are all free to delete our account, ignore the parts we don't like, or otherwise not participate in it as a social networking site.

Shit, we may even decide to go outside, into the Big Blue Room and talk to actual people, face to face!

Re:Freemium at its best (1)

Pieroxy (222434) | about 2 years ago | (#39992483)

Shit, we may even decide to go outside, into the Big Blue Room and talk to actual people, face to face!

WTF is wrong with you people? You still think Facebook is here to replace something like going out? Do you really believe all facebook users forgot to open their front door for the last year?

You see no value in facebook, we get it. Now fuck off and let us use it the way we see fit, unless you feel empowered by God to forbid us to do so.

That's part of respecting others - not trying to force feed them with *your* view of how they should behave.

Re:Freemium at its best (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | about 2 years ago | (#39992591)

> we can build a new social network that actually cares about its users.

there, FTFY

The best social network i came across was called the internet, IIRC it was version 1.0

If this is surprising.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39990893)

I have a bridge to sell you!

captcha: income

For the share holders (2, Insightful)

Dyinobal (1427207) | about 2 years ago | (#39990897)

I expect this is more than anything for the share holders/soon to be share holders. They have to actually you know generate revenue and continue to find new ways to generating it etc. It will only get worse from here, I promise you. Facebook might not of once been a soulless corporation but it is now.

Re:For the share holders (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991295)

I think of publicly traded companies in the same way as you and agree that most likely Facebook will become worse to use while doing everything it can to suck money out of its users, but it should be pointed out that Zuckerberg has always been an asshole who held his own users in contempt. In this particular case, 'soulless' may not be much of a step down.

Re:For the share holders (1)

Trepidity (597) | about 2 years ago | (#39991303)

Facebook might not of once been a soulless corporation but it is now.

It's scary to think that one day people might look on the past years of Facebook as the good days of Facebook, when they really cared about their users and weren't just about extracting revenue from them...

Re:For the share holders (3, Insightful)

Shavano (2541114) | about 2 years ago | (#39991389)

There was a time when they were more focused on building their user base than (immediate) profits. They knew the network would only gain financial value when it had enough users to monetize, which it now does.

Re:For the share holders (5, Insightful)

EdIII (1114411) | about 2 years ago | (#39991521)

So... in other words... they prepared the pasture... lured in the sheeples... and now it is time for the harvest?

Re:For the share holders (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | about 2 years ago | (#39992299)

That sounds about right.

I can't wait for the next evolution to get past the current cultural deadlock that has Facebook as King.

Who is stalking me? (3, Interesting)

bartoku (922448) | about 2 years ago | (#39990899)

I bet people would pay $10/day for that feature.
Who searched for me, who viewed my profile, what part of my profile did they view?
To bad we are locked in to a proprietary social network that hides such information from the user...

Yes that would arguably kill the social networking site since people would be to paranoid to stalk...oh wait no it would not.

Re:Who is stalking me? (1)

ThePeices (635180) | about 2 years ago | (#39991013)

"I bet people would pay $10/day for that feature."

I bet people would. Problem is, once all six of them start paying, thats the end of the revenue stream.

Re:Who is stalking me? (1)

bartoku (922448) | about 2 years ago | (#39991037)

Facebook has over 800 million users, and your friends and stalkers would not know who has paid their $10 that day so why would the revenue stream stop unless they had no stalkers?

Re:Who is stalking me? (3, Informative)

wmac1 (2478314) | about 2 years ago | (#39991503)

We have a social network website with about 2 million members and this exact feature (who visited my profile, and hidden visits) bring in 5% of the whole revenues.

35% comes from advertisement, 5% from other membership fees (enable other features), and remaining from commission of selling products and services on the website.

The website is ranked 600-700 on alexa and we have 2 other websites with the same size.

Facebook should pay popular users. (5, Interesting)

elucido (870205) | about 2 years ago | (#39990935)

The best thing Facebook can do is begin paying people to post relevant news articles and popular stories on Facebook.
They could make the money to pay them from ads, and most people get their news from Facebook.

We should be paid to use Facebook.

Re:Facebook should pay popular users. (3, Interesting)

bartoku (922448) | about 2 years ago | (#39990981)

I like this idea!

Users who generate a lot of page views are rewarded.

This encourages users to create more and hopefully "better" (in terms of interest to their audience) posts.

In turn this draws more page views and makes Facebook more money.

Actually if Facebook was wise they would simply give you a private ranking on your post, how many views a picture or wall post garnered to encourage you to do more.

Facebook users love collecting things: friends, likes, Farmville items...give them another virtual currency: views!

Re:Facebook should pay popular users. (4, Insightful)

Nemyst (1383049) | about 2 years ago | (#39991251)

Alternatively, it'd cause more Click-the-cow-type games to crop up, because stupid sells.

Sad but true.

Re:Facebook should pay popular users. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39992357)

lowest common denominator for the win! hooray for pop culture and fads!!!
don't forget to use grade ten english.

Hold on a second. (1)

csumpi (2258986) | about 2 years ago | (#39991321)

I thought the whole point of this experiment was for facebook to *make* money, not to lose money. Or were you just joking?

Re:Facebook should pay popular users. (1)

sco08y (615665) | about 2 years ago | (#39991841)

I'm a news junkie, and I often listen to C-SPAN radio. Some shows have callers, most of whom are awful. "And next is Bob on the Independents line. Hi Bob, you're on. Uh, hi, am I on? Yes, Bob, you're on with us. Uh, hi, so, uh, thanks for, uh, having me on, I really like C-SPAN, uh, thanks for your service Congressman, and, uh, I'm calling to ask about..." by which point I'm already yelling in my car, "just ask your fucking question!" There are rewarding exceptions, but the norm is outspoken incoherence.

The best thing Facebook can do is begin paying people to post relevant news articles and popular stories on Facebook.

No, really, it's not. Just like the callers, my friends and family on Facebook are fine folks who rarely have any insight into politics.

I'm on Facebook not to see amateur op-eds, but because I want to know what's going on in their lives, what they're actually doing, and so forth. Maybe a monetary incentive could help, but I suspect I'd wind up blocking people who were too spammy.

Your amazin Facebook post is lost in the noise... (5, Insightful)

bartoku (922448) | about 2 years ago | (#39990955)

One can understand Facebook's problem. Too many people use it. Too many posts are being created. Too many people miss most of what's there. Yes, it's just like Twitter.

If Facebook's layout did not stink this would not be an issue.
If it looked like Google Reader with my hundreds of friends on the left with a little number of how many items I have not viewed that are new, it would be easy to keep up with everything.

Instead I get this seemingly random arrangement of things on the main page and it takes me two clicks to even bring up a complete friend list which is arranged in no useful order.

I cannot wait for the day when we look back on Facebook like we did on proprietary email protocols and instant messaging protocols and have a beautiful selection of clients.
I am still looking forward to the day when all those services are easily host on servers that are not harvesting the average user's data...

Re:Your amazin Facebook post is lost in the noise. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39992433)

If it looked like Google Reader with my hundreds of friends on the left with a little number of how many items I have not viewed that are new, it would be easy to keep up with everything./p>

Seriously good idea right there, that's what we should have upon "subscribing" to friends posts..

Reminds me of eBay.... (3, Insightful)

HockeyPuck (141947) | about 2 years ago | (#39990961)

eBay makes money in the form of micro amounts.

In your item to be sold...

Want a larger title?
Multiple colors
Pictures
highlighted in the listing...

All of these cost a few cents extra to get more "eyeballs" to see your listing and then eventually to click on it and hopefully to buy the item(s) you're selling.

Always wondered why I couldn't format my FB posts with bold/italics or justifications (left/right/center). Now, I can see them saying, "You want bold... that will be $.05."

Of course it would be really slick to have a setting similar to what email clients have which is to display all email messages, regardless of formatting as "plain text". Thereby getting rid of all the formatting people have paid for and display it in plain text (like it is now).

Re:Reminds me of eBay.... (1)

LordLucless (582312) | about 2 years ago | (#39991213)

Of course it would be really slick to have a setting similar to what email clients have which is to display all email messages, regardless of formatting as "plain text". Thereby getting rid of all the formatting people have paid for and display it in plain text (like it is now)

GreaseMonkey.

Why not flirt with Digg's corporate suicide model? (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about 2 years ago | (#39991015)

I could imagine giving Facebook users the ability to earn money too. Allow them to advertise for corporate sponsors.

Then they can use that money to get new features like freemium games do like League of Legends?

Ok I kid I kid, but here is a real idea I wish someone would go with:

Advertisement revenue sharing. Make a game or gameshow where everyone can compete.
Then when you play ads get shown. At the end of the month, some of the advertisement revenue is kept for the company, but a % of it goes back to the players who did well that month or game.

I was thinking you they could run a weekly "You Don't Know Jack" tournament over the Internet. The winner gets real money based off the ads sold. If you were creative enough, you could make a ton of game shows and and make a game show network on the Internet. Television broadcast game shows only let a limited number of players play at once, with the Internet, you have a whole new spectrum of people to go with.

Forever alone (5, Funny)

zill (1690130) | about 2 years ago | (#39991091)

I was hoping for a paid feature where Facebook doubles your number of friends.

Then I realized that 0 x 2 = 0.

Re:Forever alone (1)

darkfeline (1890882) | about 2 years ago | (#39991333)

Doesn't Facebook automatically friend you with that what's-his-face guy who founded the darn thing (you can tell I don't really give much of a damn about Facebook)? Of course, the first thing I did with unfriend him...

Re:Forever alone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991525)

http://www.facebook.com/myspacetom

No, but now you can!

Re:Forever alone (2)

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SEC (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991103)

This doesn't feel like a quiet period.

Re:SEC (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991127)

Or a S-1 disclosed revenue source.

I would pay to opt out of being a product (3, Insightful)

cowtamer (311087) | about 2 years ago | (#39991283)

I seriously pay to have true privacy controls, where I could opt out of having my data / posts sold to whomever paid for it, or let me see who's been bidding (and let me choose who gets it).

I'd also pay to get access to all the data they have on me (what I have deleted, who's viewed my page, etc). This, of course, would not be good for their business model.

But they would probably take my money and sell my data anyway :)

Re:I would pay to opt out of being a product (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | about 2 years ago | (#39991695)

I have that.
Got it a year and a half ago.
I quit Facebook.
I felt better for a while. Then I noticed that all that changed was that I spent even more time on /.

Re:I would pay to opt out of being a product (1)

cowtamer (311087) | about 2 years ago | (#39991865)

It's very trendy to hate Facebook, and be proud of not having a profile. But for some of us (especially those of us who have non-techie friends spread across the world), it provides real value.

It lets you:
    1) Find people (and be found by people) that you want to get back in contact with
    2) Hold asynchronous, casual conversations with friends, and friends of friends. I don't know an existing solution which allows the same thing as smoothly.

I am disturbed it has replaced texting and e-mail for most people, and I have friends for whom it is the most reliable contact info (i.e., they don't necessarily pay attention to their e-mail). I would love there to be a real open-source solution which allowed different clients, like e-mail and Usenet News used to be. I don't think this will happen anytime soon...

Re:I would pay to opt out of being a product (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991923)

I'm so trendy i hated facebook before all of you. When it was called geocities.
Damm kids. Get off my lawn.

Re:I would pay to opt out of being a product (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39992179)

It's very trendy to hate Facebook, and be proud of not having a profile.

People are proud of addictions they have overcome; especially when they realise in retrospect that said addiction did more harm than good.

I would be happy to pay (1)

mrstrano (1381875) | about 2 years ago | (#39991311)

One/two dollar(s) per month to have a Facebook NOT sell my personal information. That would be much more than what Facebook is making per user at the moment (3.7B$ in revenue with ~800 million users in 2011). However, this feature would implicitly acknowledge to the public that they are selling your information. This is something that everybody sort of knows, but perhaps they don't want to make it clear.

Sorting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991331)

I just want to throw this out there because I f*@$ing hate the way that Facebook defaults to "Top Stories" instead of "Most Recent" and while that wouldn't be too terrible, it fucking resets itself back to "Top Stories" on all my devices whenever the F*@# it wants.

Relationship-status change perks (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991387)

The only perk I'd be interested in is if they made it so that if you changed your relationship status on FB, it automatically gets updated in real-life too.

cant believe this (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991415)

Facebook, & twitter are being used as a surveillance,
of course people are aware of this, and don't care.

you can find out plenty about someone from the internet,
too many people are using the internet to become second life celebrities ( 300 photos, 1200 friends, etc )

the internet has always proved to be good, and evil

Haven't used Facebook for 12 weeks. (3, Interesting)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | about 2 years ago | (#39991487)

a) lacked the time for it
b) the constant privacy violations and promises to 'never do it again'
c) several news reports on the very real risks to current and future employment of facebook posts.
d) at the time, nothing like google circles so I couldn't keep the different parts of my life really separate. Also see b) - similar violations of cross friend discussion privacy in the past. I'm sorry- I just don't want to share every aspect of my beliefs with everyone.
e) They are thinking of charging us? WE ARE THE PRODUCT. Without US, they are NOTHING.
f) It was just taking too much time to keep up with "friends" that I really barely knew. I've started living life for real in the time that's been freed up. Seriously- it was something like 1.5 hours a day to keep up with facebook. I use that time to play board games in person, go on dates, take classes, walk, ride a bicycle, exercise.

I'm back to email, text messages, and personal phone calls. I've made new friends in real life who i see in person and do real activities with.

Facebook is a virtual experience lacking in reality.

Final reason I stopped hanging out in facebook... They wanted my personal mobile phone number to play the games. I hear since then, I could now play the games without facebook. Oh yea.. and CONSTANT spam to join "games" and events in "games" which I didn't give a darn about.

Profits in narcissism (1)

Lordfly (590616) | about 2 years ago | (#39991523)

This is brilliant; allow people to preen over themselves by getting them to pay a fiver to let "more" people see their posts.

It's like printing money.

I doubt it will affect regular users of facebook much; I assume the kinds of people that would pay money to let their posts be seen more would be blocked already from most people's feeds....

Re:Profits in narcissism (1)

knorthern knight (513660) | about 2 years ago | (#39991717)

> I doubt it will affect regular users of facebook much; I assume the kinds of people that would
> pay money to let their posts be seen more would be blocked already from most people's feeds....

But blocking of premium users would only be allowed if *YOU* paid a premium. Sorta like arms manufacturers selling weapons to both sides of a war. Cynical? Moi?

Determined to repeat MySpace's mistakes (4, Interesting)

hessian (467078) | about 2 years ago | (#39991585)

FacePlant seems determined to repeat the mistakes of MySpace.

Once you get all those people on the site, you just must turn them into cash cows, instead of taking a decent payout in advertising. The MBAs just insist.

The result is that soon interacting with the site becomes a pain in the neck and the smart people leave. They are replaced by many, many more people, but we all know that the number of warm bodies is only part of the story.

When you lose those top echelon users, your site starts to become a virtual tenement. Soon it's a kicking around ground for the lost, like MySpace, Digg, and other dot-com burnouts.

Good thinking, FacePlant.

Well (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991629)

N+1 suckers born every day.... No nothing missing from my thought

This explains the nerfed news feed (2)

Culture20 (968837) | about 2 years ago | (#39991769)

Remember when the FB news feed used to list everyone's statuses? Then you had to explicitly tell it to show everything, and now even that option doesn't exist; you have to deal with whatever random crap shows up, missing important statuses. All the data's still there, but they needed an environment where there would be an artificial scarcity of statuses to make promoting one's own status on others' news feeds valuable enough to make people want to pay for it (although only the most narcissistic would want to).

Slashdot tests waters by sucking Facebook's cock. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39991809)

Continuing to publish articles about Facebook
is pandering to the scum of the world.

The users AND Facebook are scum.

This crap is totally non-productive.

God damn it, where is Taco when we need him ?

Begining (1)

Smiddi (1241326) | about 2 years ago | (#39991859)

This looks like the begining of the end for Facebook. Companies that pay for their posts will get the most user reach. Hmmm, sounds like a business model for making money, not social interaction? I closed my account recently due to getting the same old crap posted from the same old people (the ones I interacted with on FB - not the ones I actually care about reading, because I dont interact with them in FB land; I usually only interact with them in real life). After this change is implimented I can see may more following.

Pay to talk to your friends? (1)

pfarber (1123907) | about 2 years ago | (#39991947)

Only in America are you narcissistic enough to think that what you have to say is SO important its work PAYING to put it in front of your 'friends'.

 

Re:Pay to talk to your friends? (1)

Chrisq (894406) | about 2 years ago | (#39992421)

Only in America are you narcissistic enough to think that what you have to say is SO important its work PAYING to put it in front of your 'friends'.

Not only in America. If your friends are politicians you can expect to do this anywhere

Andy Warhol (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39992197)

What Andy Warhol said about the people of the future (that's us) being famouse for fifteen wasn't so much prescient as perceptive. He was was simply restating the observation that everybody present or future wants to be famous (even if you're an "Anonymous" hacker).

So how's this any different from politicians or recording artists paying to be heard? Some people become famous by accident or hard work. Some have to pay to become famous.

May it die in flames (1)

Grayhand (2610049) | about 2 years ago | (#39992467)

I hated high school. Facebook is high school 2.0. Why wouldn't I want it to die a horrible death? Social networking is for people that lack actual lives. I guess based on their numbers there's nearly a billion of them. Somehow I get through my day without logging onto Facebook and I somehow have survived by not posting on the site. Does this make me "uncool"? God I hope to hell it does if posting makes you cool. I thought being cool was NOT doing what the sheep do?
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