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Gameboy Advance US Launch Details

michael posted more than 13 years ago | from the where's-the-slime-shield? dept.

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GB Fanatic was one of many people to send this: "I've seen Game Boy Advance news here before so I thought perhaps some of you would be interested in this. Nintendo has announced the full line-up and price range for the launch of Game Boy Advance. GBStation.com has the details. Oh, GBStation.com also has a list of classic SNES and N64 titles that will be released for Game Boy Advance, including Super Mario Bros. 3." There's also a CNN article which has a bit more information. I don't know, I think I've outgrown the Gameboy, but judging from the number of people I've seen playing the snake game on their cellphones, handheld games are still pretty popular.

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Re:Hopefully... (1)

R2P2 (193577) | more than 13 years ago | (#378013)

The problem with the NGPC was that it wasn't a Game Boy; there are something like 500 GB games available, and the NGPC was released with a dozen. Most of the games released for the Neo Geo Pocket Color were fighting games, with one or two RPGs and nothing I can think of that could compete with good ol' Tetris. It's main market ended up being hardcore gamers, and there aren't too many hardcore gamers who are into portable gaming. SNK realized that their market wasn't large enough to be worth the effort, so they bailed.

Battery hog? (1)

kstumpf (218897) | more than 13 years ago | (#378017)

My only concern with advanced handheld's is battery life. Remember Sega's handheld? That thing could gulp down a couple of AA batteries per hour. That got expensive.

I liked the plain old gameboy... used little batteries, and since it was so graphically deficient, the emphasis was on gameplay rather than goofy effects like most modern games, regardless of platform.

I'll probably buy a gameboy advance for plane trips... but only because it looks ALOT like the SNES, which IMHO was one of the best consoles of all time in terms of game quality.

LONG LIVE 2D SIDESCROLLERS! :)

Re:Just a few facts... (2)

interiot (50685) | more than 13 years ago | (#378018)

And no other non-"GameBoy" handhelds ever really took off

Seen a top 10 videogames [dailyradar.com] list lately?

And ever heard the figure "one hundred million [channel4.com] "? That's how many game boys have been sold in the last 12 years. Do you know any other console that's sold that well?
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Re:Super Mario Advance == Super Mario 2? (1)

XJoshX (103447) | more than 13 years ago | (#378020)

Looks like it also has some of the original mario brothers (not SMB1, MB aka that little weird level you can into in SMB3 2p mode) in it. If we're really lucky it may be like mario all-stars or something..

Snake (1)

Chmarr (18662) | more than 13 years ago | (#378022)

Speaking of the Nokia snake game, I've gotten 1542 as my high score. Anyone beaten that?

Re:The snake game sucks... (1)

Shimmer (3036) | more than 13 years ago | (#378023)

Would that be the "Los Angeles Bay", then? South Bay is Silicon Valley. The bay in question is San Francisco. It's about 400 miles from LA.

-- Brian

Re:does anyone play these, besides 5 year olds? (3)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 13 years ago | (#378024)

Yeah, people who still care about gameplay.

Some of my favorite games are for the Gameboy. I'm suprised to see how well some of my cartridges (particularly the RPGs with battery saves) have held up over the years. I mean, my "Final Fantasy Legend" cart is still kicking after 10+ years!

I even bought a Game Boy Pocket last year when I temporarily succumbed to the Pokemon demons. Geez, talk about video game crack! I don't think I've logged more hours (100+) in a single session of any game before. That game is designed to prey upon the weaknesses of obsessive-compulsives.

Polys are not everything. Gameplay is what brings people back.

June 11th... (1)

anotherone (132088) | more than 13 years ago | (#378026)

Just in time for my birthday.

now, if only they didn't look like those $5.00 tiger LCD games from back in the day, I'd be happy.

Also excited about the first new Metroid game in a LONG time... not counting Samus being in Super Smash Bros. Say... Portable SSB... could we be that lucky? Hmm.

Ohyea, be sure to watch those Japanese commercials about halfway down the page. LOL

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The power of GBA (1)

MSBob (307239) | more than 13 years ago | (#378027)

Seems to me that there should be enough horsepower in GBA to run Doom or perhaps even Quake1. Is anyone working on a port? Besides how does one go about obtaining a GBA SDK anyway?

[SOT] Here it comes... (1)

dbretton (242493) | more than 13 years ago | (#378028)

Well, it's somewhat off-topic, but here goes
. I don't know about other gamers out there, but I look for a different kind of game for portable play. Something that will let me pass the time away is what works best.

This is why I (and many others) enjoy things like Tetris so much. You can pick it up and put it down, with no problem.
This is where the GBA is doing the right thing: bringing back those fun, *nostalgic* games. Those are the enjoyable ones to play when on travel (anyone else enjoy a few rounds of Joust as much as me).

Here's where the GBA fails, and someone else should pick up the slack:
1. Autosave. Someone needs to come up with an autosave feature that will let me save the state of my current game, so that I may turn off the machine and resume an hour, week, or month later.
2. Emulators. For portable games, the most fun ones are the puzzle (e.g. Tetris) and nostalgia games (e.g. Mario, Joust, galaga, etc.). It would be really great if I could play any game from any of the older platforms on my new portable. Ergo, it would need to act as an emulator. Wouldn't it just be the cat's meow if the thing could play games intended for other hw platforms (NeoGeo, Genesis, SNES, GB, etc.)?

Then again, maybe I'm all alone on this one.

-D

Re:Silly gamers... (1)

R2P2 (193577) | more than 13 years ago | (#378029)

SMA is a Mario 2 remake, just like there is a Mario 1 remake for Game Boy Color (which also included "The Lost Levels" AKA the Japanese Mario 2). It'd be nice if they'd just make a GBA version of Mario Allstars instead of porting each game individually.

Super Mario Bro. Advance (1)

snubber1 (56537) | more than 13 years ago | (#378030)

MAN, SMBA is just mario 2 with a new name. Ask anyone and they will tell you that mario 2 had to be the worst mario ever. To top it off, Nintendo didn't even write mario 2! They bought the game from another company after it was released in japan and changed the graphics to Mario n' friends. This was done because the japanese mario 2 (lost levels in mario all stars) was deemed too hard for us american folk.

Re:Just a few facts... (1)

G-funk (22712) | more than 13 years ago | (#378035)

Also, the original Game Boy had an add-on that would do color like this.

Nope, you're dreaming. You may be thinkking of the super-gameboy, a device you plug into your super nintendo that allows you to play gameboy games, and allowed gameby games to come with 16(iirc) colours, but only when played on the super-gameboy.

Gfunk


--Gfunk

Re:I'm gonna buy it. (2)

m3000 (46427) | more than 13 years ago | (#378038)

I just hope Nintendo realizes that a large portion of gamers today are adults, and leaves the Pokemon crap off of this system.

Sorta off-topic, but maybe this will get some attention since it's fairly high up in the comments. It turns out that maybe Nintendo has heard games pleas and has alllowed a very "adult" game to be released for the N64.

A few days ago a very anticipated videogame by Rare, a second party to Nintendo, was released: Conker's Bad Fur Day [ign.com] . From the same company that brought you Banjo-Kazooie and Donkey Kong 64, comes one of the most hilarious and "mature" games ever released. And on the Nintendo 64 platform too, which is known for its image of being "kiddie". Could it be, a very adult game on the "kiddie" system? Nintendo was still Nintendo however, as the official Conker BFD [conker.com] website attests, with it's multiple "MATURE" warning signs, and Nintendo only marketing the game so as to make sure it is pretty much only seen by people who are over 17; ie putting ads in Playboy and Maxim but not their own Nintendo Power, who won't even review it since it's read mainly be the 12-17 crowd. But the fact that Nintendo is letting this game be released on their system by one of their favorite developers shows that Nintendo isn't as tight-assed as everyone makes them out to be.

Anyways, it got a 9.9 from IGN and mainly I just wanted to point out that Nintendo (or at least one of hteir developers) can make games for adults too. Besides, have you ever played Pokemon? It's a damn good game, even if you are an adult.

Re:Nintendo titles support 4 players with 1 cartri (1)

ShavenGoat (63696) | more than 13 years ago | (#378040)

You are right, it did require every player to have a cart. In the originial design from EYPX called "Handy", did have support for 1 cart multiplayer though.

They probably dropped this feature to save money on units AND to make more money on carts.

Too bad Atari is dead... (well, Atari corp. anyway).

"Outgrown" the Game Boy? (1)

dstone (191334) | more than 13 years ago | (#378041)

I think I've outgrown the Gameboy

That's ironic, because I find portable game platforms more and more appealing as I get older. I just can't be bothered to go home and play a tethered console or PC game when the urge hits. But I can take my portables (Palm, Game Boy, phone, etc.) with me to the office, on business trips, etc.

I have less leisure time at home for games now than I did when I was a kid, but I love games almost as much. Bring on the portables!

outgrown the gameboy?! (1)

Lord Omlette (124579) | more than 13 years ago | (#378043)

You're gonna have to back up those words with nuclear weapons!!!

*ahem*
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Lord Omlette
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Super Mario Brothers 3 (1)

Galvatron (115029) | more than 13 years ago | (#378046)

Was an NES game... SMB 4, aka Super Mario World, was the first game for the SNES. Just thought I'd clear that up.

Re:The snake game sucks... (1)

teal_ (53392) | more than 13 years ago | (#378047)

> I'm looking for a good Gyro place in the South >Bay area. If you know of one, please let me know.

Try Yiassoo on De Anza Blvd in Cupertino.

The snake game sucks... (3)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 13 years ago | (#378048)

The snake game sucks, but comes in really handy when you go to the first night of a movie, get there :45 early and have to hold your seats.

Still, I'd rather play Tetris.

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Re:The snake game sucks... (4)

great throwdini (118430) | more than 13 years ago | (#378049)

Might I suggest a book. Very usefull time killer.

Might I suggest a dictionary. Very useful book.

Handheld games are awesome (5)

ibpooks (127372) | more than 13 years ago | (#378050)

Not just cell games though. My collection of TI-85 games was the only thing that kept me from stabbing myself in the eye with a pencil during high school math class.

Is it the best thing since slim servers? or XBox? (2)

WillSeattle (239206) | more than 13 years ago | (#378051)

Hmm. You gotta admit it's a cute little devil, even with the awkward name of Game Boy Advance, but let's think about the real competition.

First, does it make the xBox look like a MSFT kludge? Yup. But that wasn't hard.

Second, does it have primo addictive games and interactivity? Yup. But no killer carts yet.

Third, is it priced well? Hmmm. I'm not so sure of that.

When all is said and done, Nintendo has a good track record of actually making money on the box, as well as the games, so even if it has a few lame titles (ever played MIB on the Color Game Boy? yuck ...) it only needs two or three killer addictive games that encourage player to player action and it will do well.

Of course, I'm biased, since I own NTDOY ADRs and both my son and I have color game boys (but I don't use the cheats ...).

I'm quite glad; GBA is long overdue (4)

PsionicMan (74653) | more than 13 years ago | (#378052)

I've owned every US-marketed version of the gameboy (stupid cosmetic changes (like pokemon shells) not included, I mean hardware changes):
* The original, with the screen of spinach green.
* The "Pocket", with a gray screen and much improved size (smaller) and battery life (longer).
* The "Color", with which the main change was the addition of color.

In addition to these, I own a Sega Nomad--this is a portable Genesis with a backlit screen and horrible battery consumption--and a Neo Geo Pocket Color.

Out of all of these systems, I like the NGPC the best. The Nomad's 2-hour battery life condemned it from the start, even if you can play Toejam & Earl on vacation. The Game Boy, Game Boy Pocket, and Game Boy Color were nice when they were all I had, but I honestly haven't played any of them since I got my NGPC. The main advantages it had was it's better screen (both in size and colors available IIRC... I also seem to remember it having a little bit more in the CPU department, but I'm not sure). That, combined with one of the overall highest-quality software lineups around made it my favorite from the first time I picked it up.

However, the almost complete and utter lack of 3rd party support drove it (And SNK as a company) out of the picture.

All of this brings me to my point, which is incidentally the only thing so far that will address the article at hand.

The GBA is going to be like having these three general platforms I've described rolled into one. It will have:
* The Gameboy's userbase and marketing power/brand recognition, plus a lot of software, much of it decent.
* The Nomad's whole "play your console games on the go" thing. GBA will be able to have many SNES games ported to it, with F-Zero and Super Mario Kart already done/being worked on.
* What the GBC looked like next to the NGPC, the NGPC will next to the GBA. It's sort of the next level of handheld graphics.[1] So it's similar in that respect to the NGPC. Plus, I expect much quality software from Nintendo for this (like SNK and the NGPC.... ever played SNK vs Capcom: MotM? Best handheld fighter, ever.)

The current version of GB, Game Boy Color, is really just a Game Boy done up with color as the name implies. Sure, it has a little more horsepower etc, but it's not that much of an improvement.

Nintendo has essentially stuck with the same handheld for around a decade or more (assuming that my memory serves me right and the GB was a mid- to late-eighties release). The GBA brings a long overdue update to Nintendo's handheld juggernaut.[2]

--Psi

[1] No, the Virtual Boy didn't count. I still own mine, though. Dropped it a while back, and now it gives you [more of] a headache [than before].

[2] Just so you know, kids, the Game Boy was big even before Pokemon!

Max, in America, it's customary to drive on the right.

Re:Forget Gameboy... (1)

anotherone (132088) | more than 13 years ago | (#378053)

Didn't you read the page? Nintendo's coming out with Cup and Ball Advance!

Catch a ball, in a cup!
In stunning 3D!


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Just a few facts... (2)

interiot (50685) | more than 13 years ago | (#378054)

Just a few corrections. Game Boy Color [ign.com] was released 3 years ago, and it indeed had color before the Game Boy Advance.

Some differences are... GBA has a 32 bit processor, and it's turned sideways so you hold it much like a PS/DC/N64 controller.

A few refinements. Plus backwards compatibility with an ever-growing library of games makes it a winner for me.
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Re:I'm gonna buy it. (1)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 13 years ago | (#378055)

I just hope Nintendo realizes that a large portion of gamers today are adults, and leaves the Pokemon crap off of this system.

You just KNOW Nintendo will dive right in with a Pokemon game at launch, or closely afterwards. I just hope 3rd parties jump on board for this system (which so far seems to be happening) more than they did for Nintendo's N64 console. Capcom appears to be porting their popular titles (Super Street Fighter II is listed as one of the games in development for the GBA), and I believe I saw some Konami titles further up on Nintendo's games list [gameboy.com] .

Will I buy one though-- **absolutely**. $99 is a little much (Japan is getting it for around $82), but it's still reasonable and well, I can't help it, I love the idea of playing 4-player Mario Kart Advance. =)

Re:Silly gamers... (1)

pb (1020) | more than 13 years ago | (#378056)

Yeah, Mario Allstars was awesome, and that was an SNES title, too.

Mario 2 was dumb, though; Nintendo needed a new US Mario game, so they bought some silly Arabian game and changed the sprites and whatnot. Hence, the preponderance of deserts and carpets.

But you probably were reading Nintendo Power back then too, so I'll assume you knew that. :)
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pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate [ncsu.edu] .

Dodge Ball Advance!!! (1)

XJoshX (103447) | more than 13 years ago | (#378063)

Nothing could be more 1337 than DODGE BALL ADVANCE!!!! Screw the PS2, I'm buying that!!!

Re:Silly gamers... (1)

k_187 (61692) | more than 13 years ago | (#378064)

Now, a handheld NES... THAT would be worthwhile.

Actually the Game Boy Color was more or less a portable NES, actually CGB had a little more power, but it was basically the same thing with a different screen so games wouldn't run verbatum. The Game Boy Advance is pretty much a SNES again with a different screen. Developers have been saying that its more or less a SNES with a SuperFX chip (Star Fox, Stunt Race FX, Yoshi's Island).

Re:does anyone play these, besides 5 year olds? (1)

DrCode (95839) | more than 13 years ago | (#378070)

Sure. I recently spent many hours playing "Ultima - Runes of Virtue" on a GB during a couple long plane flights, and I'm many times 5 years old.

It is kind of a pain getting through airport security with one, though. They either want to X-ray it, or turn it on to see if it's really just a game!

Re:Directional Pad? (1)

donglekey (124433) | more than 13 years ago | (#378071)

that would really fun trying to keep it in your pocket, you might be able to make a screw in one, but you would still have to keep track of it, easy for us, difficult for kids

Re:I'm gonna buy it. (1)

emir (111909) | more than 13 years ago | (#378073)

i bought a gameboy color last fall, it uses 2 AA batteries. nintendo says that those should last around 16 hours but i was able to play (super mario bross :) around 20 hours before batteries were exhausted. so i guess gb advance is not going to be any worse than gb color

Re:I think it is quite funny (1)

musiholic (94408) | more than 13 years ago | (#378074)

...I think your "followers" posts as you are better than your posts as yourself.

Anyway, similarly, my nieces and nephews have been playing game boy games for years, and the old game boys get handed down to the younger ones as the elder cousins get newer systems.

As far as this thing being big only because it will be color, well... the color game boy is already in color, so that eliminates that one... I do believe the point is that this new handheld will be a bit more powerful, have a slightly different design, and still be able to play the old game boy games (a big plus, in my book anyway).

However, they could easily incorporate a feature that I swear I've seen done at one point, but I may have dreamt it: make a way to connect the hand-held game device to the larger console. Given a little time and creativity, there could be a lot of cool things that could be done with a system that was capable of doing that.

Just some food for thought.

Re:The snake game sucks... (1)

phranking (134197) | more than 13 years ago | (#378075)

Hence the qualifier "might." There's a "South Bay" in LA as well.

Re:Great 80's technology (1)

k_187 (61692) | more than 13 years ago | (#378076)

I may be remembering incorrectly but didn't Doom use a lot of Sprites? And Actually Doom came out for the SNES. one that by your thinking(at least it seems correct me if I'm wrong) has less power than the AGB. Look at the specs, and games were sprite based hella earlier than Polygons showed up on the scene.

Where's the support for VB? (1)

Rudeboy777 (214749) | more than 13 years ago | (#378077)

What about support for Virtual Boy games?! This is Nintendo's chance to get back the fans it alienated by cancelling the much-maligned system. Just look at the Hordes clamouring to have it brought back [cjb.net] (well, come to think of it, all these people have probably gone blind by now, never mind...)

Re:I'm gonna buy it. (1)

R2P2 (193577) | more than 13 years ago | (#378078)

The problem with the Game Gear was that it had a backlit screen sucking up the batteries; all of the Game Boys need external lighting. The GBC runs for 20-25 hours on 2 AAs and I think the GBA is supposed to be the same.

Re:I'm gonna buy it. (1)

jerkface (177812) | more than 13 years ago | (#378079)

AA batteries, up to 15 hours (that's probably a very optimistic estimate, though). Not bad, considering that it's better than the SNES in almost every way, except for having fewer buttons and lower resolution. See this GBA FAQ [ign.com] for more details.

Stop your flaming (3)

euroderf (47) | more than 13 years ago | (#378080)

Listen, I have been on /. for a long long time, and the thing that affected it badly was the appearance of people like you. Don't attack her just because you disagree with her - that is the road to a hellish monoculture here on /.

Effectively, it is the first new one in a long time. Sure, there were others. The fact that they did not topple the gameboy, despite being technically better, if anything backs up her point.

The colour gameboy is pretyty much identical to the original gameboy, and very few games were released supporting the miserable advance in features. This also backs her point up.

In addition, people can post whatever they like here. If you want high standards of evidence and so on, /. is not the place to look. It is a discussion site, and people can damn well give family anecdotes if they like.

Your type of elitism disgusts me.
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Re:Silly gamers... (2)

interiot (50685) | more than 13 years ago | (#378081)

It basically IS a handheld NES.

Yes, the screenshots look crappy. Gimme a break, the thing includes a display with it, but costs much less than consoles that don't have displays. The display is powered batteries, yet needs to run 10-15 hours per charge. Thus, the display is going to be very contrained. You can't really compare it to tethered consoles.

Don't buy a handheld for its cool looks, but it because its games are fun to play.
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Re:Just a few facts... (2)

Will The Real Bruce (235478) | more than 13 years ago | (#378082)

Game Boy Color isn't really that new; it's just a few hacks on top of the aging Game Boy. Also, the original Game Boy had an add-on that would do color like this.

And no other non-"GameBoy" handhelds ever really took off, so I can see how someone would see this as the first real Advance in handhelds in 10 years.

Sad, but true.

Re:Silly gamers... (1)

R2P2 (193577) | more than 13 years ago | (#378083)

You left out the best part -- they needed a new US Mario game because they thought their new Japanese one was too hard for Americans :P

Re:Atari clone alert (1)

k_187 (61692) | more than 13 years ago | (#378090)

the Lynx didn't have shoulder buttons.

That means 4 pokemon players can explore! (2)

WillSeattle (239206) | more than 13 years ago | (#378093)

Yeah, I was thinking about that a bit after my first post - that is going to be really cool for kids, which is why Pokemon is such a deal - it encourages trades and fights and mail being sent from one player to another.

And, get this, only one of the four players needs a cartridge. So, if Ian and Maria and Sasha and Jon are all into the same game, and only Ian's parents shelled out for the new Purple version, the whole gang can play.

This is super nifty - addictive on a social level. It also means you can get a Powerpuff Girls group, with one player for each Powerpuff Girl ("I'm Bubbles! No, I'm Bubbles; you're MoJo JoJo this time!") and one can be the bad guy.

Gonna rock!

Game programmers start on TI-85 (2)

Ted V (67691) | more than 13 years ago | (#378094)

My friend and I spent time programming games on the TI-85. The coolest game my friend wrote (who now works on Madden 2001) was Arkanoid. But this wasn't just any arkanoid game... It had 3 different kinds of blocks, a level editor, and it even stored the levels in a compressed vector so you didn't run out of memory. I spent much time on that... Very cool. There was also a pretty solid poker program that either he or I wrote (I can't remember who). We never uploaded them to the net, but we gave them to everyone at our Highschool, so who knows where the games have ended up. :)

-Ted

does this remind anyone of the game.com? (1)

anotherone (132088) | more than 13 years ago | (#378100)

It was a system a few years ago, sold by I forgot who. But it looked a lot like this thing, and it had some similar features- it could connect to the internet and such. I wonder if...

nah.


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Atari clone alert (1)

Voxol (32200) | more than 13 years ago | (#378101)

Doesn't it look just like a white Lynx?

Maybe a bit thinner and smaller, but I think there's a definite resembelence in the layout

NO! I DON'T WANT AN UPDATED MARIO 3!!! (1)

piku (161975) | more than 13 years ago | (#378102)

The graphics in Mario 3 were perfect. PERFECT. Nothing at all was wrong with them. Why the hell would they go and fuck them up for the GameBoy Advance? They did it with the All-Stars version and it blew ass. I didn't even feel like I was playing Mario 3, just some cheap clone that was posted on the net and looked like it was made by a bunch of amateurs as a high school graduation project.

Its like fixing the Mona Lisa... please Nintendo: DON'T FUCK WITH PERFECTION.

Re:does anyone play these, besides 5 year olds? (1)

GunFodder (208805) | more than 13 years ago | (#378103)

I also have an unhealthy fascination with computer games, but I have a hard time getting my mid tower and 19" monitor onto a plane, or into a car, or on the crapper. I considered buying a Game Boy Color for a recent plane trip but I couldn't muster the courage to buy a "toy". So instead I have to play Dope Wars on my Palm :)

I think one of the most important accomplishments of the Playstation was to prove that you could market a console to an "older" crowd and be successful, and I hope that Nintendo gets the hint and caters toward older video game junkies with this new portable.

Super Mario Advance == Super Mario 2? (2)

Bonker (243350) | more than 13 years ago | (#378104)

If not, it sure looks like it. The levels in the screen shots certainly look familiar, and there are one or two places that definitely came from Super Mario 2 (which wasn't a Mario game in Japan the first time around...)

But will it have (1)

SquadBoy (167263) | more than 13 years ago | (#378105)

Tuxracer?

Metroid Advance? (1)

redgekko (320391) | more than 13 years ago | (#378106)

Since Nintendo and Retro Studios [retrostudios.com] are dead set on making Metroid 4 a First Person Shooter/Adventure [ign.com] , I would love to see the classic side-scrolling Metroid 3 ported over to the GameBoy Advance or a new Metroid game for Advance based on the classics.

<soapbox>Boo to FPS! Long live platform games!</soapbox>

Atari 2600 Handheld (1)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 13 years ago | (#378107)

Back in '92 I would have been interested in (what appears to be) a Super NES tech based hand held. Although I'd still rather buy one of these [classicgaming.com] (if only the guy who makes them was allowed to sell them). Or how about a portable MAME unit [mame.net] ?

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Re:Just a few facts... (1)

stump (21577) | more than 13 years ago | (#378108)

The original GameBoy add-on that you talk about adding color was the Super GameBoy. It was basically a cartridge for the Super NES that allowed you to play GameBoy games...with pseudo-color. You could pick a color palette that matched your game. Not great, but not terrible either.

The GameBoy Color does the same exact things for older games only. Newer games make native use of the GBC's larger color palette. Not a hack at all.

It's a decent system. Play some games on it before dismissing it so easily.

Re:Silly gamers... (1)

pb (1020) | more than 13 years ago | (#378109)

Heh, many ports of Japanese games *are* dumbed down for Americans, like FF2 and FF3.

But I heard that there wasn't interest in another Mario game so soon after the release of the first one. Not that, as a gamer, I ever believed THAT. :)
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Re:Silly gamers... (2)

Will The Real Bruce (235478) | more than 13 years ago | (#378123)

Well, I'd play it if it ran my NES games. Even if they had to re-release them. I guess that'll be the first real hacking project for the GBA: run NES games. :)

I thought the screenshot looked pretty good, actually. But I don't remember saying anything as to the quality of the video display. I was objecting to the fact that they chose to remake "Mario 2", the worst Mario game for the NES. If they actually remade Mario 3, as the story submitter implied, that would be awesome.

And yes, I buy systems because its games are fun to play. That's why I owned a C64, an Atari 7800, and an NES. Sadly, I have owned no other good gaming systems besides a PC. I think an SNES or a Playstation might have been worthwhile, but that's about it. Oh, and my g/f has a Vectrex, and that's really fun too. :)

Re:NO! I DON'T WANT AN UPDATED MARIO 3!!! (1)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 13 years ago | (#378124)

Actually it's a lie-- it's not an updated Mario 3, it's an updated Super Mario Mario 2 (the lame filler one that had weird vegetable picking crap). I personally would rather that they had released a game that had the same look and feel as Super Mario World (Super Mario 4), especially since the hardware on this thing could have easily done it.

Oh well, maybe their next Mario game on the GBA will take advantage of that-- or mebbe Zelda on this thing will look like A Link To The Past did on the SNES.

pot. kettle. black. (1)

juuri (7678) | more than 13 years ago | (#378125)

Effectively it is the first new one in a longtime? No it isn't. Not even close. Who says the GBA will topple the GB? Only Nintendo because they will stop making the GB.

What point did "it" make? "It" didn't make any points... yet you are clamoring to defend it and calling me elitist? elitist for calling out, on a known self moderator and troll?

Your type, those who defend people because of gender (you sure wouldn't have defended a guy like this) disgust me. Besides this is a discussion site... I can post whatever I like.

ps: HITLER

Re:Silly gamers... (1)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 13 years ago | (#378126)

Actually I always thought the Gameboy Color looked more like a portable NES, and the Gameboy Advance looked more like a portable SNES (albeit with smaller screen and lower resolution-- it's got the mode-7 type scaling/rotating features though!).

I just hope Capcom's Super Street Fighter II looks good on this small of a screen. =)

Re:Forget Gameboy... (1)

steeef (98372) | more than 13 years ago | (#378127)

another example of how you can apply simpsons quotes to just about anything

Re:pot. kettle. black. (1)

B14ckH013Sur4 (234255) | more than 13 years ago | (#378128)

I realize that both of your UIDs are under five digits; but I must interject. She can post whatever she likes here, as can you sir. The problem with your response, however, is that it's attacking someone who is adding to the discussion in a positive way. If your problem is that she is somehow wasting your time by not supplying what you wanted to read, well then you certainly wasted a hell of a lot more by responding. Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to simply scroll through it?
If your problem is that she gets modded-up simply because she's female, well, that's not her fault, it's the moderators. They tend to be nice to the women, as there are very few around here. I see no evidence that she mods herself up.
Just get over it...
Anit harm none, do what ye will, ya know?

Re:does this remind anyone of the game.com? (1)

Mike the Mac Geek (182790) | more than 13 years ago | (#378129)

Game.Com Made by Tiger. I still have mine. Great system. Two cardtridge ports, touch screen, etc. VEry nice. Should have done better.

Re:Super Mario 3?? (1)

piku (161975) | more than 13 years ago | (#378130)

And it blew ass because they fucked with the graphics.

Re:Hopefully... (1)

B00yah (213676) | more than 13 years ago | (#378131)

NGPC was released with a couple of puzzle games, and, of course, Bust a Move, featuring Bubble Bobble's favorite dinosaurs...

Directional Pad? (1)

Scorchmon (305172) | more than 13 years ago | (#378132)

Why did Nintendo choose to go with a classic digital directional pad instead of an analog joystick? I thought with the move by all the latest consoles to go with analog sticks, Nintendo would do the same with the GBA. Is the reason due to too much extra CPU usage or something else?

Awesome! (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 13 years ago | (#378133)

Maybe Apogee can even be convinced to do a REAL Duke Nukem game again!

I'm gonna buy it. (2)

UltraBot2K1 (320256) | more than 13 years ago | (#378134)

Due to the graphical limitations of the hardware, the only way it'll survive is by the strength of it's games. Hopefully, designers will once again be forced to design for playability instead of just trying to cram the flashiest graphics possible into a cart. This may be just what we need to bring back a revival of old-school quality games and get rid of those crappy first-person-shooters.

I just hope Nintendo realizes that a large portion of gamers today are adults, and leaves the Pokemon crap off of this system.

Super Mario 3?? (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 13 years ago | (#378136)

Oh, GBStation.com also has a list of classic SNES and N64 titles that will be released for Game Boy Advance, including Super Mario Bros. 3

Super Mario 3 is for the 8-bit NES, not the SNES nor the N64. Duh!

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xboy (3)

deran9ed (300694) | more than 13 years ago | (#378137)


Lets not forget XBoy

Rumors of Microsoft entering the portable gaming market have been reported in abundance for the past six months. However, when a globally respected news source such as MSNBC reports on such rumors, there's sure to be some substantial evidence to support them.


According to a report by MSNBC, Microsoft has progressed far enough along in discussions concerning the possibility of the company entering the portable gaming market (the fastest growing sector of the industry), that it has given the project a codename in "Xboy".

The article suggests that if all goes well with Xbox, Microsoft could enter the portable gaming market in 2002 or 2003, bringing to the table significant technological advances (read: 3D visuals) over Nintendo's upcoming Game Boy Advance, which is scheduled to appear in the US this summer.

The article is quick to point out, though, that Microsoft's main focus at this point and for the foreseeable future is Xbox. The company understands that it must establish a name for itself in the industry before attempting to enter multiple sectors of the market, and to do so, must make Xbox the system by which all others are judged.

Chief Xbox Officer, Robbie Bach, told MSNBC, "I'm focused on one thing and one thing only. If I take my eye off the Xbox mission for two seconds, I'll lose. I can think about [portable games] when I have time to think about those things."

Microsoft's competition in the handheld market, namely Nintendo, could be substantially more difficult to defeat than its main competition for Xbox, Sony.

Nintendo owns 97% of the portable gaming market and has seen the sector grow from $216 million in 1998 to $618 million in 1999 thanks to the introduction of Pokemon. Figures for 2000 should be even more impressive.

That kind of increase is one any company would be foolish to ignore, and Microsoft, while focused on Xbox, is surely paying at least a shrapnel of attention to the portable gaming market. It will take more than superior technology to draw the masses to a new handheld, though. We just hope that that "more" isn't comparable to 151 colorful monsters.


CIA mining your info [antioffline.com]

Nintendo titles support 4 players with 1 cartridge (2)

z)bandito(_X (243059) | more than 13 years ago | (#378140)

Using the link cable four players can play Mario Kart Advance, FZero Advance, or Mario Advance in 2, 3, or 4 player modes with just one cartridge. This is a great feature (although its not new; the Atari Lynx supported this feature long ago!)

is it just me? (3)

jCaT (1320) | more than 13 years ago | (#378141)

or does the name "game boy advance" just scream bad translation [engrish.com] ? I mean come on, nintendo... couldn't you have come out with a better name?

Re:The snake game sucks... (5)

SquadBoy (167263) | more than 13 years ago | (#378143)

Might I suggest a book. Very usefull time killer. :)

Hopefully... (1)

B00yah (213676) | more than 13 years ago | (#378145)

the success of previous hand-held game systems recently won't foreshadow this release...I myself was a strong supporter of the SNK Noe Geo Color Pocket, and it survived only a month or two in america...several other systems have had the same fate...I believe that unless it comes built in to another appliance (cell phone, PDA...etc..)...it will not get much support...

Re:The snake game sucks... (1)

phranking (134197) | more than 13 years ago | (#378150)

From his comment about the gyro place in the South Bay, that might mean that he's seeing movies in LA, which means that you can wait *4* weeks, and you'll still have to hang out to hold onto decent seats :P

-f

Chu Chu Rocket supports this too! (1)

piku (161975) | more than 13 years ago | (#378151)

SEGA = GOD

Speaking of those damned cellphone games... (1)

AFCArchvile (221494) | more than 13 years ago | (#378152)

March 5, 2001 - Verizon Wireless today announced that Boxerjam, a developer of games for wireless devices, has been selected to provide Mobile WebTM customers with two new games to play on the wireless Internet: Knockout and Dr. Popko.

So instead of augmenting their maintenance force or their vanishing DSL support centers, they encourage the desk jockeys to play games on their cellphones. What is this new economy coming to?

(This was spotted on verizoneatspoop.com [verizoneatspoop.com] , which prominently displays the QRPFF perl script.)

Re:does this remind anyone of the game.com? (1)

anotherone (132088) | more than 13 years ago | (#378153)

TIGER! Thank you. I wanted one so much... sigh. I just remember it had Duke Nukem 3D on it, that would have been so cool.

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POKEMON!!!! (1)

CSG_SurferDude (96615) | more than 13 years ago | (#378154)

You know, if they make Pokemon III, I, and millions of other Dads are going to have to buy the little sucker. Rant all you want about Pokemon, but that's what the kids want, and in that market, kids are in the drivers seat!

I don't think it's fair... (2)

albamuth (166801) | more than 13 years ago | (#378155)

...that they won't be releasing a Game Girl anytime soon. All those lonely Gaming Boys...

(but I'm assuming heterosexuality)

Re:Super Mario Bro. Advance (1)

Mastagunna (251788) | more than 13 years ago | (#378156)

Mario 2 was a fun game, most people were just scared of the change, Mario 4 aka Super Mario World is a much better game, Mario 3 was better then 2, but it was still a fun game, I love Nintendo, but why did they have to go and kill the NGPC

M$ Vaporware (1)

Choron (88276) | more than 13 years ago | (#378157)

Yeah, which in plain English means you may see that thing in stores in 2 years, if you ever see it. Apparently there are still people on Slashdot unaware of the MS vaporware policy : let's create an imaginary product to focus the attention on us.

Re:Stop your flaming (1)

suraklin (28841) | more than 13 years ago | (#378158)

...and very few games were released supporting the miserable advance in features

Bullshit. Pretty much every game released since the GBC came out is color. And color without a battery sucking backlight is a Good Thing TM.

does anyone play these, besides 5 year olds? (1)

Little Billy Gates (320667) | more than 13 years ago | (#378159)

me being a 100% PC whore, I need to see polys dancing around on a 19" screen at high resolutions... but this...? plus, I've seen enough Mario related crap out there in the world, and I need to see no more. heh, but if this thing has tetris... =)

Make it die! (1)

Pedro Picasso (1727) | more than 13 years ago | (#378161)

I'm sure you've all noticed that Gameboy is the system that just won't die. People started getting "Tetrisized" and then the same people who chuckled at Sega calling Gameboy's screen "creamed spinach color," were buying Gameboys anyway. It's lasted twice as long as any other major system in terms of viable sales. Sure it's had some upgrades, but c'mon, it's ten years old. This is a testament to what simple fun games and company support will do for a system.

Random people are even coding their own games [loirak.com] for the system in assembler and C. Crazy random people. Always getting into trouble.

What crazy things do you do to get your flaky Gameboys to work? Post a reply or email [mailto] the cult.
-the Pedro Picasso

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Re:is it just me? (1)

R2P2 (193577) | more than 13 years ago | (#378163)

They've already gotten away with "Game Boy Pocket" and "Game Boy Color", and *now* you're complaining? The GBC came out over 2 years ago; try to keep up.

I think it is quite funny (3)

Lover's Arrival, The (267435) | more than 13 years ago | (#378164)

that this is the first new handheld games system in almost 10 years now. I think it shows that handheld game systems don't really need to be very powerful, do they?They have very low resolution screens, and are played on the go, in the back seats of cars and such, by children, who aren't interested in how well it looks, only by how well it plays.

My neice, back in Scotland, has many games for her gameboy, and she plays it more often than she ever plays on playstations and computers and so on. I think it shows how it doesn't matter what the game looks like on a handheld, as long as it is well designed.

I think the big thing with this will be that it is colour. How can you advance a handheld gaming system any further? I think that the gameboy advance will be around for a long time now.

My ex boyfriend used to play handheld games a lot when he commuted to work, so I suppose he would have been interested, so it is not just for children. I don't think I would want one though. The only games I ever play are solitaire and minesweeper.

Re:I'm gonna buy it. (1)

NetCurl (54699) | more than 13 years ago | (#378167)

Is it possible that Nintendo would devise a battery pack, that would be rechargable. That way you could get like 10 hours out of it, and then recharge it. Just food for thought...

Would it be possible.... (1)

Andrew_Rhines (322477) | more than 13 years ago | (#378168)

...to port over snes games with a (relatively) inexpensive rom-writer. I know that original game boy rom writers can be purchased for around 80...so this couldnt be *too* costly. Of course, I'm not implying this be used for pirating, so much as for simply using non-ported snes games. My understanding is that advanced can more or less emulate snes...so no real porting effort would be involved...

Re:Tetris on a mobile phone (1)

dcheng (92493) | more than 13 years ago | (#378171)

The Ericsson T28w world phone does have Tetris in addition to Solitaire. It's by far the best complement of games I've seen on a mobile phone.

Re:NO! I DON'T WANT AN UPDATED MARIO 3!!! (1)

piku (161975) | more than 13 years ago | (#378173)

No, their doing 3 (and World) along with 2. I'm just surprised they are even bothering with 2... not only is it simply weird, its not even a real Mario game.

It is NOT a handheld NES ... (2)

SuperRob (31516) | more than 13 years ago | (#378174)

It's actually closer to a SuperNES. It supports Mode7 scaling effects, as well as multi-channel sound, things the NES couldn't do. Plus, the processor is faster than the NES processor.

Color Gameboy was the handheld NES.

Re:Directional Pad? (1)

m3000 (46427) | more than 13 years ago | (#378175)

I think I'd rather have a directional pad rather than analog control stick in a 2D game, which is what the GBA will mainly be used for. Also you would have to make the joystick really short and squatty if you didn't want it to get snapped everytime someone put it in their pocket.

Great 80's technology (1)

SpanishInquisition (127269) | more than 13 years ago | (#378176)

They could come up with something more 'advanced' I mean this thing is still sprite-based (that means no 3D), I'd rather buy somthing that I can play Doom on.
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And still the gameboy amazes me... (5)

Lostman (172654) | more than 13 years ago | (#378177)

With as much competition as there is between video game systems and companies constantly expanding new tech and new hardware, the gameboy must be the longest lasting console!

The gameboy is over 10 years old, and with only minor updates, it is still going strong. I would LOVE to see one of the newer systems be able to boast of that.

I don't really play that many games, so I won't buy one, but I must admit that the industry and its evolution is very interesting. I just like that a portable mini-system can outlast the heavyweights of the industry. But to be fair, software support always makes or breaks a system too, which is why the handheld brethren of the Game Boy (Lynx, Virtual Boy, GameGear, and TurboExpress) are all in their respective coffins now.

Maybe I'll get one as a gift to my teenage sister so she'll stop wasting her TI-89 with those cruddy little calculator games :)

Silly gamers... (2)

pb (1020) | more than 13 years ago | (#378178)

Shouldn't someone tell them that Super Mario Bros. 3 has been out for years already, and was a classic NES title? I also see no reference to it in the article.

Also, Super Mario Advance looks more like a Mario 2 remake, at least by judging from the screenshots.

Now, a handheld NES... THAT would be worthwhile.
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pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate [ncsu.edu] .

Forget Gameboy... (1)

MorboNixon (130386) | more than 13 years ago | (#378180)

...I have a new game, this Cup and Ball! Woooo! Ahhh! You never know where that crazy ball is going to go!

Red Falcon? Quien es 'Red Falcon'?!?!?

respect (1)

JohnnyKnoxville (311956) | more than 13 years ago | (#378182)

No matter what anyone says, ya gotta respect The GB for helping to change of the face of gaming, and for having been around so long. Hopefully they can do it again with the GB advance, cause the N64 was extremely dissapointing.

Re:I'm gonna buy it. (1)

UltraBot2K1 (320256) | more than 13 years ago | (#378183)

Sorry, one more thought. I just read the CNN article, and the screen on that thing looks pretty big. If I recall, the battery life on the Sega Game Gear was abyssmal. Almost to the point of making the Game Gear not worth playing without access to AC power. Something along the lines of 2-3 hours on 6 AA batteries. Does anyone know what has Nintendo done to improve upon battery life? What kind of batterys does the GB Advance use?
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