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Axis, Yahoo's New Browser

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the new-kid-on-the-block dept.

Yahoo! 194

markjhood2003 writes "Fresh on the heels of Slashdot's discussion of the lack of browser choice on mobile devices comes the announcement of Yahoo's new web browser Axis. According to VentureBeat, the browser runs on iPad and iPhone as a separate standalone browser and as an extension for Chrome, Firefox, and Safari, with support for Android and Windows Phone coming soon. It actually appears to bring some innovation to mobile search, displaying results and queries on the same page for more productive navigation between the two."

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That is cool, but... (4, Insightful)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#40096809)

That search result display is actually really cool. I'd love to see that in other browsers (including desktop browsers). The problem is Yahoo's track record is poor when it comes to updating their products. For instance, Yahoo Mail is embarrassingly behind other web mail services. If Yahoo treats this like they treat their other products, I can't help wondering if it will just become another obsolete Yahoo thing.

Re:That is cool, but... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40096875)

Shut the fuck up you piece of shit troll. Aren't you still licking your wounds from slashing your wrists over the google oracle verdict today?

Re:That is cool, but... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40096905)

someone didn't take her meds today

Re:That is cool, but... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097093)

Nah, the AC has a point.

Bonch is a sockpuppet of the reputation management team that's been ruining just about every discussion with pro-Microsoft or anti-Linux propaganda. They are genuinely scam, so the AC has a right to be angry.

I got an error (2)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097133)

When I clicked on the yellow "Get it now! DESKTOP" icon at the upper right hand site, yahoo sent me to a null pointer

http://axis.yahoo.com/null [yahoo.com]

Re:I got an error (2)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097395)

It appears to work now for me on Firefox, but don't bother. The rendering engine couldn't really keep up with the script's demands, and it puts a rather inelegant-looking bar at the bottom of every window. Personally, I'm just going to stick with Google's preview feature.

I fucked up !! (3, Funny)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097501)

Help, I fucked up !!

I installed that "yahoo browser" while browsing on Chrome

Now I got a butt ugly shitty thing floating at the lower left hand corner on my screen !!

How do I get rid of that "yahoo browser" ???

HELP !!!

Re:I fucked up !! (2)

quasipunk guy (88280) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097535)

Click the wrench icon on your toolbar, navigate through the Tools sub-menu and select "Extensions." You can disable or delete Chrome add-ons from there.

Thanks ! (2)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097557)

Yeah, that butt ugly thing is gone !

Thanks !!

Re:That is cool, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097459)

ROFL, "the AC" as if it isn't you, Rui.

Re:That is cool, but... (1)

Kalriath (849904) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097603)

Really? And you have actual evidence that this person is receiving monetary compensation, as opposed to simply... oh, I don't know... being a rabid fanboy much like yourself?

You don't? Oh, how surprising.

Re:That is cool, but... (0)

Loosifur (954968) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097013)

...can I mod this "-1 ...whoa..."?

Re:That is cool, but... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097081)

Why the fucking thomas aren't you using Gamemaker, you faggotry jones saga?

Re:That is cool, but... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097451)

All your sockpuppets modding every comment down as troll sure hasn't worked. What else can you try?

Re:That is cool, but... (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097709)

Shut the fuck up you piece of shit troll. Aren't you still licking your wounds from slashing your wrists over the google oracle verdict today?

Who is Google Oracle?

Re:That is cool, but... (2)

Ambvai (1106941) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097835)

The last oracle I spoke to said: "For a good time engrave `Elbereth'."

Re:That is cool, but... (1, Interesting)

ThunderBird89 (1293256) | more than 2 years ago | (#40096957)

I wouldn't say Yahoo Mail is behind others. I have a Yahoo address, and I'm very pleased with the interface and the service, more so than with Gmail. They offer 500 fully functional disposable email addresses for SPAM decoys, unlimited storage space (not just very large and increasing, like in Gmail), keyboard shortcuts (something Gmail doesn't support at all) and tabs on the interface, so I can have several messages composing at once (again, no such thing in Gmail), and folders (very important for me, very useful, and not present at all in Gmail).
And, for some reason, maybe because I've had my address since ~1995, I've received a free upgrade to Mail Plus, so I have very few reasons to complain. :)

Certainly, there are some quirks, such as only counting unread messages in the root folder in the unread total, but I've reported that, and will report it again. Plus, it's not such a bad thing that I can't live without it...

If anything, Yahoo is still the best web-based email service out there, outshining Gmail, which has Android integration on its side to make up for its shortcomings in the mail section.

Re:That is cool, but... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097055)

keyboard shortcuts (something Gmail doesn't support at all)

http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=6594 [google.com]

tabs on the interface, so I can have several messages composing at once (again, no such thing in Gmail)

Click the button in the upper-right to detach the "Compose Mail" dialog into a new window, then click "Compose Mail" again and voila, you will be composing two messages simultaneously.

folders (very important for me, very useful, and not present at all in Gmail)

Labels are strictly more powerful than folders especially now that gmail has nested labels: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/06/superstars-and-nested-labels-now.html [blogspot.com] .

Spend at least 5 seconds googling, or, umm, yahooing, before complaining.

Re:That is cool, but... (5, Informative)

DMUTPeregrine (612791) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097067)

Gmail aliases are unlimited. Not just 500. If you are more paranoid than average you can use a second address set to auto-forward as the base. That makes it take about as much setup as Yahoo's version.
Gmail has keyboard shortcuts.
Yahoo!'s storage space isn't unlimited, they just don't tell you the cap.
You can detach the "compose mail" dialog to a separate window. You can make as many windows as you wish (or until you window manager/browser crashes.)
If you only use one label per message then labels are identical to folders. Otherwise they have a strict superset of folder functionality (a message can have >1 label, but can only be in 1 folder.)

What, exactly, does Yahoo! have that Gmail doesn't have? Other! Than! Excessive! Punctuation!

Re:That is cool, but... (4, Insightful)

galaad2 (847861) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097287)

What, exactly, does Yahoo! have that Gmail doesn't have? Other! Than! Excessive! Punctuation!

well, there's one thing: yahoo mail has stupid and obnoxious graphical ads, sometimes with flash&sound and sometimes the ads expand to fill the page if you accidentally mouse over them (happened to me a month ago when i was installing a new computer and i didn't had time to install AdBlock Plus. ABP was the first thing i installed after that).

Gmail only has text ads and those are not even remotely as annoying as the crap that yahoo shows.

Re:That is cool, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097965)

What, exactly, does Yahoo! have that Gmail doesn't have? Other! Than! Excessive! Punctuation!

and from a third party mail server point of view the Yahoo servers suck balls. They may drop legitimate e-mails form smaller outfits and when you try to contact them about white listing you get a webmail support drone asking for your Yahoo e-mail account info.

Yahoo needs to die!

Re:That is cool, but... (2)

ThatsMyNick (2004126) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097071)

I still use Yahoo email too, though its not my primary one. The only place I find yahoo lacking is in spam detection. I have seen legitimate mail classified as spam and spam making it to the inbox. This has never happened with Gmail (in the last one year, I cannot recollect this happening even once). I understand your preference for the Yahoo Interface and its unlimited Storage. Everything else, though, is available in Gmail. Gmail does support keyboard shortcuts (this might be part of the "Gmail labs" features though, I am not sure). Gmail calls Folders as Labels. I find labels more useful as I can tag the same email under multiple labels. You can create unlimited spam decoys in Gmail too, just use "youremailid+arandomstring@gmail.com"

Re:That is cool, but... (4, Insightful)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097105)

You can create unlimited spam decoys in Gmail too, just use "youremailid+arandomstring@gmail.com"

This feature is worthless as a spam decoy strategy, as anyone can use it to find your real address. I would be amazed if spammers don't already strip off the "+whatever" from gmail addresses, and those that don't would certainly start if any appreciable number of people used it. It's got its uses, but spam prevention isn't among them.

I wonder why Google hasn't stepped up to supply actual disposable email addresses yet. It doesn't seem like a difficult feature to add, and would have a lot of value to their users.

Re:That is cool, but... (2)

Cinder6 (894572) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097255)

Not to mention a lot of sites "helpfully" say that your +whatever address is invalid.

Re:That is cool, but... (1, Informative)

smash (1351) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097327)

well yeah, plus signs don't work with all SMTP daemons.

Re:That is cool, but... (4, Informative)

Kalriath (849904) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097609)

They should. The RFC says so.

Re:That is cool, but... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097959)

LOL! nice one!

Re:That is cool, but... (5, Informative)

galaad2 (847861) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097331)

This feature is worthless as a spam decoy strategy, as anyone can use it to find your real address. I would be amazed if spammers don't already strip off the "+whatever" from gmail addresses,
[...]
I wonder why Google hasn't stepped up to supply actual disposable email addresses yet

oh, but they do have that but it's a bit hidden and it's only available via Apps for hosted domains. (even free apps has it).
The way to set this up is to host your domain (or at least the mail receiving functions of it) with Google Apps and then you can set up the email service to accept wildcard emails, *@your-domain-hosted-on-google-apps_dot_anything.

Now whenever you give out an address just invent one on the spot @your domain and it will be valid. I do this and i got into the habit of throwing a date stamp and the name of whoever it is for into the email address itself so that if i start receiving spam for that address i know who leaked it and when they were assigned that address. Such an address usually looks like: mail-for-my-name-from-slashdot-org-20120524@example.com

And since my domain is set up at Gmail with a wildcard catch-all address, that will be routed to my actual mailbox (only if it passes Gmail spam filtering tests).

Re:That is cool, but... (1)

TomC2 (755722) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097649)

oh, but they do have that but it's a bit hidden and it's only available via Apps for hosted domains. (even free apps has it).
The way to set this up is to host your domain (or at least the mail receiving functions of it) with Google Apps and then you can set up the email service to accept wildcard emails, *@your-domain-hosted-on-google-apps_dot_anything.

Now whenever you give out an address just invent one on the spot @your domain and it will be valid. I do this and i got into the habit of throwing a date stamp and the name of whoever it is for into the email address itself so that if i start receiving spam for that address i know who leaked it and when they were assigned that address. Such an address usually looks like: mail-for-my-name-from-slashdot-org-20120524@example.com

And since my domain is set up at Gmail with a wildcard catch-all address, that will be routed to my actual mailbox (only if it passes Gmail spam filtering tests).

I do that, but it is limited in its usefulness because there is not a simple way of then killing off one of those addresses that you have made up on the spot. Eventually if spam to all these made up addresses becomes a problem, you have to turn off the catch-all address to stop the spam coming through. Which then means you have to actually set up another account or group in Google Apps each time you want an extra address, which is a lot less quick and easy.

Re:That is cool, but... (3, Informative)

galaad2 (847861) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097745)

I do that, but it is limited in its usefulness because there is not a simple way of then killing off one of those addresses that you have made up on the spot. Eventually if spam to all these made up addresses becomes a problem, you have to turn off the catch-all address to stop the spam coming through. Which then means you have to actually set up another account or group in Google Apps each time you want an extra address, which is a lot less quick and easy.

point taken but i don't usually give such an address to any site. I use mailinator.com / bugmenot.com for random junk like reading nytimes.com or stuff like that.

The Gmail wildcard is useful for sites you want to receive stuff from but these sites are not trusted/appreciated enough to give them a proper email address. Also, in order not to fill up my main email account, i have a separate, dedicated account@my domain and that one is the target of the wildcard, not my main account.
To access that quickly, I set up account access delegation rights between the wildcard-reception account and my main account.

If one of the made-up addresses starts receiving spam i can always set a filter to delete that email as soon as it arrives (usually i just filter it with a label for sending to spamcop) and (usually) the owner of the site it was initially intended for will get a spam & abuse complaint sent on all contact email addresses i can find (via whois and their site)

Re:That is cool, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097765)

There's a mailing list/group list (I forget exactly what it is called). You can create such a group with the email address attracting spam and restrict posting to members (and have no members in the group). That way you can ignore certain email addresses. Another option is to have a spam account and add aliases if you really want to read/check your spam every now and then.

Re:That is cool, but... (2)

RealTime (3392) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097857)

I do that, but it is limited in its usefulness because there is not a simple way of then killing off one of those addresses that you have made up on the spot.

  • 1) Navigate to "The Gear" > Settings > Filters > Create a new filter .
  • 2) Put the disposable, made-up email address in the To field of the form.
  • 3) Select Create filter with this search . (Check the correctness of the filter via the search results that appear.)
  • 4) Select the Delete it checkbox (and maybe some others, such as Mark as read ...).
  • 5) Select the Create filter button.

You will no longer see any more of the emails from that disposable made-up email address. Enjoy!

Re:That is cool, but... (1)

waferbuster (580266) | more than 2 years ago | (#40098009)

I have my Google Apps email set up this way, with wildcards. When I start getting spam, all I do is change my email address with the originating site, and set up a filter using the To: field. Send that spam straight to the trash folder. I've been able to identify several breaches of companies email lists using this wildcarding setup, and it's always fun to call the company and let them know that their customer email list has been hacked... Usually it's the little mom and pop companies, but sometimes it's medium sized businesses.

Of course, sometimes it's my own fault... once I was silly enough to post on an eBay forum. The forum automatically attached my email (ebay@mydomain.com). Within a matter of minutes, I started getting huge amounts of spam for listiing software, and "Your ebay account has been blocked, please click this link andlogin to verify your account" type of crap. 6+ years later, I'm still getting spam to that account, but it automatically get captured by a filter and sent straight to the trash folder.

The one I haven't figured out is how to filter by characterset. For some reason, I get tons of russian spam to various random accounts at my domain, all of which Google catches and tosses into my spam folder. Since I don't speak russian, if I could just filter on some common russian words (watch, viagra, cialis, penis, manly, etc) I could keep my spam folder even less cluttered.

Re:That is cool, but... (0)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097293)

stop at the first sentence. the rest is FUD.

i like the modpoints you got from your silent sockpuppets though.

Re:That is cool, but... (4, Interesting)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097401)

Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe...yahoo mail users LIKE the current UI? The damned "everything is a chat" crap in Gmail is why i only use it for places like this (where the most I will be talking to someone is a single reply and i don't care about spam) while i use my yahoo for family and friends precisely BECAUSE of the UI. Thanks to its classic folders design i can have my mail nicely sorted just the way I like with a minimum of hassle and the same can be said of my customers.

BTW here is something that will bake the noodles of the geeks here, you know what from working on PCs 6 days a week i've found to be the most popular home page by a loooong shot? Yahoo.com, that's right, the web portal page that so many of us hate. The reason why is it has replaced the traditional paper for most folks, hell I even installed a separate browser just for my GF so when she is staying the weekend she can have everything just like at home, with all her bookmarks and her Yahoo portal. She has her little morning ritual where she opens the portal, glances through the headlines, checks her mail before moving on to her FB games.

So frankly I'd say the problem is NOT the mail or the portal at Yahoo and if I were in charge, hell if anybody that had a brain were in charge they could turn it around. How? Advertise. Playing around with the portal i found there is a ton of neat stuff there that frankly most don't know anything about. anybody try yahoo games? they have a ton of time wasters. they have got sports, comedy, a ton of really nice stuff, its just hidden way down on the far left bar in small print. That is STUPID. they should be highlighting a different one on the portal each week and making them easy to see and showing people how to get to them.

They have all the right pieces there, they just need someone to show them how to market all this stuff to the masses and build some buzz. Like I said my GF starts with the portal every morning and even she didn't know they offered a ton of free games, but now that i have showed her where they are she and her GFs all have a blast playing all the little flash games. just advertise Yahoo, show folks what you have.

Re:That is cool, but... (1)

ThatsMyNick (2004126) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097543)

You and your GF should try iGoogle, and its widgets. I am willing to bet that you/she will like it better than the Yahoo portal. Yahoo sports is a good one, I dont think there is a replacement in Google, but you still can add a widget from your favourite sports website to iGoogle and be done with it.
 
I agree about the yahoo interface, I am pretty much torn in between Yahoo and Gmail interfaces.

Re:That is cool, but... (2)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097805)

Why? What does it offer that Yahoo doesn't? my GF loves her yahoo Portal because even when she is staying with me its set to her home town (she had to move an hour and a half away to take care of her dad after a heart attack) so that she gets all her local headlines, it has her games and her email, like I said to her and many like her it has replaced the morning paper.

So I don't even see a point in trying iGoogle and frankly after their changes in their privacy terms (and the whole pushing of more social crap) I'm frankly leery of using Google any more than I have to. besides it isn't like my GF would ever give up her FB for Google+ and with Yahoo it seems to play nice with FB (you can even log in with FB if you like) and between those two sites she is happy. And if there is one thing I have learned friend its that when your woman is happy? Do NOT rock the boat!

Re:That is cool, but... (1)

ThatsMyNick (2004126) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097931)

iGoogle is similar to Yahoo Portal, it lets you view your email (gmail only), news, weather. In additon to these, it also allows you to add widgets from other websites. I used to have a widget from my local news website, and one from my favourite sport news website. This as far as I know, cannot be done in Yahoo Portal. Google+ (Google's social network) is optional, you need not signup for it. Otherwise, I think privacy implications are the same. I agree with not rocking the boat, but if you are actively looking for a better portal and email bundle, I think its worth a look.

Re:That is cool, but... (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097969)

Yahoo Mail has a fairly reasonable UI these days but the spam filtering, or rather the lack of it makes it subpar compared to other services. Not a day passes without various spams and phishing emails getting through. If GMail manages to filter this crap out, I don't understand why Y! Mail cannot.

Re:That is cool, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40098053)

Not to mention that I have seen many computers with Yahoo Bar for IE and Firefox that crashes the browser.

Re:That is cool, but... (1)

Hentes (2461350) | more than 2 years ago | (#40098113)

Google has been doing predictive search and result display for a while now. There's nothing new in this, just keeping up with the competition.

Huh... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40096811)

So Yahoo! is still making stuff, that's good to see. You can't fault them for trying to stay relevant.

Unfortunately I tried to download it and got redirected to... I'm not kidding... /null

Can we get a collective, "doh!"

Re:Huh... (5, Interesting)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097317)

What's worse is that Yahoo have accidentally included their private signing key inside the Chrome extension, meaning anyone can now sign Chrome extensions as Yahoo....

Re:Huh... (1)

Nova77 (613150) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097523)

D'oh!!

Re:Huh... (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097567)

I assume Google will revoke the key any second now?

What's it for? (2, Funny)

bit trollent (824666) | more than 2 years ago | (#40096815)

Is Axis the web browser for when you want the internet to fail, a shell of its former self?

Re:What's it for? (2, Insightful)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097325)

I too was wondering what it's for. From the link: "Yahoo! Axis offers a faster, smarter search with instant answers and visual search previews."

... why do I need a new BROWSER for that? Google image search takes one extra tap. And the search engine in question is of course yahoo. I made the switch away from Yahoo a long time ago for better search engines. Don't really see a reason to go back: google is working fine. Is Yahoo going to respect my privacy more than google is? Because that's the one reason I could see for switching, but if they're not saying that to begin with...

There is nothing else on the site save two ads. Anyone have a list of features this thing is supposed to have?

Re:What's it for? (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097583)

Axis search is searching for the "cool" kids; it shows you all the search results other people want to see (they call it "trending").
Ofcourse the concept of trending search topics is completely safe from spammers, scammers and other marketeers.

Wake me when it's ANTI-TEMPEST (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40096827)

Why don't they try something new? I dunno, like maybe a new browser using ANTI-TEMPEST defenses including SAFE FONTS?

Oops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40096831)

Did Yahoo accidently put their cert private key in?

The Chrome Extension Leaks Yahoo Private Certifice (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40096839)

http://nikcub.appspot.com/posts/yahoo-axis-chrome-extension-leaks-private-certificate-file

Yo dog (5, Funny)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#40096847)

I heard you like browsers, heres a browser that runs in a browser.

Pimp it!

Re:Yo dog (1)

PNutts (199112) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097089)

Bitches love browsers.

Re:Yo dog (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097581)

Yo dog, i heard you like browsers, so we gonna put a browser inside your browser so you can browse while you browse.

FTFY

Re:Yo dog (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097887)

Pfft, I made browsers in browsers before they were cool.

Private Certificate File in Chrome Extension (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40096859)

Nik Cubrilovic discovered that a private certificate file was left in the chrome extension source files:

http://nikcub.appspot.com/posts/yahoo-axis-chrome-extension-leaks-private-certificate-file

Re:Private Certificate File in Chrome Extension (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40096963)

Nik Cubrilovic discovered that a private certificate file was left in the chrome extension source files:

http://nikcub.appspot.com/posts/yahoo-axis-chrome-extension-leaks-private-certificate-file

So your post gets modded to 5 informative, and mine got deleted. Kudos

Re:Private Certificate File in Chrome Extension (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097037)

That wily /. cabal!

Re:Private Certificate File in Chrome Extension (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40098071)

What are you talking about? I posted both times!

Re:Private Certificate File in Chrome Extension (2)

humanrev (2606607) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097051)

Fucking amateurs. Seriously?

The Axis? (5, Funny)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 2 years ago | (#40096879)

Will this new browser only be available in Germany, Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and Finland?

Release Code Names (3, Funny)

reluctantjoiner (2486248) | more than 2 years ago | (#40096973)

Barbarossa, Sea Lion, The Rommel and maybe Mussolini for the Beta release?

(I didn't realise Finland was an Axis power; I thought it's fame in The War was due to being the only country simultaneously at war with both Ivan and Gerry.)

Axis powers (2)

GoingDown (741380) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097059)

Finland was not actually part of Axis - at least not fully. They fought with German against Russia, and they received quite significant help from German though.

"Co-belligerents

Various countries fought side by side with the Axis powers for a common cause. These countries were not signatories of the Tripartite Pact and thus not formal members of the Axis."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers [wikipedia.org]

Re:Release Code Names (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097341)

It's fame is for being the only country that was assigned as a "client country" in Molotov-Ribbentrop that didn't get annexed in spite of two of some of the biggest military campaigns of the world war 2, including the single biggest concentration of artillery per kilometer of frontline.

And then, there's of course this: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/suzymushu/3009425719/ [flickr.com]

(Not my flickr, just the first hit on images.google.com for "finland be afraid").

Re:The Axis? (1)

rossdee (243626) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097129)

That was 70 years ago, these days the enemy is "The Axis of Evil" (North Korea, Iran, Syria)

Although Mitt thinks that the biggest enemy is "the Soviet Union" - I guess he was asleep in 1989)

Re:The Axis? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097351)

That is so last year. Bin Ladin is dead, we won bitches.

State funded health care, Obama and the /. comment system is the new Axis of Evil.

Re:The Axis? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097131)

You forgot Slovakia.

Re:The Axis? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097135)

Will this new browser only be available in Germany, Italy, Japan ...

I hear they are making advances into Poland. *rimshot*

Re:The Axis? (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097349)

Only if you advance from the east. Else it's a slap in the face.

Axis powers your web browsers! (0)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097553)

And THIS people is why you don't outsource or have 18 year olds make ANY decisions.

A product name means nothing so the only thing you got to do is make sure there are NO negative associations.

Associations with WW2, the nazi's, the holocaust and general nastyness... not the most brilliant marketing move.

Why not label your new black paint as Nigger and be done with it.

Mind you, this is an American company, only Americans would name military hardware after races wiped out by that same military.

Re:Axis powers your web browsers! (2)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097697)

My, we have some hatred issues, don't we? It was funny, you were supposed to laugh. Instead this bizarre diatribe that mostly says what you're thinking about all the time? PS this one's for you. [angryflower.com]

Axis? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40096913)

Personally, I choose Allies over Axis...

oh I get it (4, Funny)

slashmydots (2189826) | more than 2 years ago | (#40096931)

Their market research division apparently found out that people want a slower browsing experience that uses more data and takes up more of the screen. Oh, and it looks like they also determine that and a non-unique and thus totally SEO dead zone name "Axis" with Hitler and communism ties that can also be in the title of dozens of games and apps, making it app store camouflage, is the way to go. Good job! I hope it works out as well as the Facebook IPO.

Re:oh I get it (-1, Offtopic)

gavron (1300111) | more than 2 years ago | (#40096977)

> I hope it works out as well as the Facebook IPO.

WHAT??? ARE YOU HIGH???

Half of the shares trades made PROFIT!

I've have loved to be a seller on that IPO.

Don't blame the process. Don't even blame the idiots who bid $43 for a product worth $0.13. It's supply and demand.
Some people thought "WooHoo I got it at $38 and it's worth $0.13 so I'll sell it for $38" Other people said "Wow I
think I'll buy it for $43". They met in the middle. That is how gambling works.

E

lawsuit (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40096935)

Wonder how long it will take Acerbis [acerbis.com] to sue for stealing their "A" logo?

Re:lawsuit (1)

LiroXIV (2362610) | more than 2 years ago | (#40096989)

You're wrong, it's going to be Abstergo suing. Either that, or Yahoo got secretly taken over by Templars. That'll explain it.

Re:lawsuit (1)

GumphMaster (772693) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097029)

Perhaps not long, but it shouldn't last long in court unless they can show likely customer confusion between a browser and motorcycle accessories. The stylised "A" is not registered against any category like computer software. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4007:e52vk0.2.1 [uspto.gov]

Anyone else excited? (5, Funny)

Lord_of_the_nerf (895604) | more than 2 years ago | (#40096983)

I'm super excited that this relevant and forward thinking company is releasing a browser that will make me forget about using any other browser.

- Me from 1996

Re:Anyone else excited? (1)

BradleyUffner (103496) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097711)

I'm super excited that this relevant and forward thinking company is releasing a browser that will make me forget about using any other browser.

Except to use this browser you apparently have to run it as a plugin inside another browser.

Re:Anyone else excited? (1)

wamatt (782485) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097789)

Pretty much sums it up for me too.

Wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097023)

Until I watched this video, I didn't know Beaker from the Muppets was based on a real person.

Re:Wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097109)

Until I watched this video, I didn't know Beaker from the Muppets was based on a real person.

Visit *any* science lab *anywhere* in the universe...

Beaker is a powerful archetype.

Screw the beach ball (1)

Ukab the Great (87152) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097049)

Axis will make your *entire* browser spin around waiting for 50 seconds.

chrome version download (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097079)

hit the site with Chrome, download, get the confirm prompt, then sends me to http://axis.yahoo.com/null and "oops, this link appears broken"

yup, thats the Yahoo I remember

Re:chrome version download (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097279)

It was taken off line temporarily due to the key leak mentioned in other comments.

Private key leaked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097085)

They accidentally included their private key inside of the Chrome extension.
https://github.com/nikcub/yahoo-spoof

It sounds like the key is only for this though? I'm not sure if there's impact beyond being able to forge signatures for the extension.

How is this a browser? (2)

Pfhorrest (545131) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097155)

The video on Yahoo's site talks all about all kinds of search features which all sound perfectly interesting as features of a search site.

But how exactly is it a browser? Or, I suppose, why? Everything it says it does could be done in a site accessible from any browser. Did they just decide to package the site in a stand-alone application because... someone doesn't understand the difference between a site you view in a browser (albeit a site you use to find other sites), and the browser itself which accesses and renders those sites?

Re:How is this a browser? (2)

Cinder6 (894572) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097289)

Not entirely sure why either, but it actually is pretty cool on my iPhone. It's missing a couple things, though, such as tap top to zoom to the top of the page, and I'm not sure I can live without Reader. Other than that, it's a very nice way to search on a phone, and I'm surprised to be saying that.

On the desktop, though, it's bundled as an awkward browser extension that seemed to vanish as soon as I closed the Safari tab, and the Chrome extension has a big security issue (probably all versions of the extension, but I haven't bothered to check). But the main reason it's less relevant on the desktop is that I can simply middle click search results and open them--completely--in other tabs while I'm scrolling more results.

Then there's the issue that it uses Yahoo and not Google (which should be obvious to anyone with half a brain cell). I'm sure Yahoo's results are fine once you have a feel for how the search engine works, but I've gotten used to searching on Google, and certain things just don't bring up the results I expect. For instance, "kindle touch update" in Axis didn't bring up the most relevant page of all, which is the Amazon page for Kindle Touch updates. Instead, it showed me old articles for the 5.0.3 update, which isn't very helpful.

All in all, I hope that it either sees a lot of refinement, or that Apple and Google shamelessly steal its ideas.

More common than you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097347)

think. [tumblr.com]

Re:How is this a browser? (1)

Rennt (582550) | more than 2 years ago | (#40098081)

Did they just decide to package the site in a stand-alone application because... someone doesn't understand the difference between a site you view in a browser (albeit a site you use to find other sites), and the browser itself which accesses and renders those sites?

There *is* a reason they are launching on iOS.

This can't be a browser due the Apple Store (5, Insightful)

Skuto (171945) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097247)

As covered in the article about mobile browser choice yesterday, just by virtue of being on the Apple Store this cannot be a real browser in any significant meaning of the word. So saying it's a "separate standalone browser" is just a flagrant lie. At best it's a shell around the existing WebKit/Safari browser on those devices.

Given that it's also listed as an "extension for Chrome, Firefox, and Safari", what is this really? Yet another privacy-invasion toolbar? :(

Re:This can't be a browser due the Apple Store (2)

l-ascorbic (200822) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097563)

The fact it uses the WebKit rendering engine doesn't mean it's not a browser, or that it's just a shell around Safari. And aren't all browsers just shells around a rendering engine? Loads of different browsers use WebKit. The main reason Google won't release Chrome for iOS is that they can't use V8, their JavaScript engine. Most of their WebKit customisations are available in Apple's implementation too. so, yes, it is a separate standalone browser. Install the app and see for yourself.

Re:This can't be a browser due the Apple Store (1)

BradleyUffner (103496) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097731)

The fact it uses the WebKit rendering engine doesn't mean it's not a browser, or that it's just a shell around Safari. And aren't all browsers just shells around a rendering engine? Loads of different browsers use WebKit. The main reason Google won't release Chrome for iOS is that they can't use V8, their JavaScript engine. Most of their WebKit customisations are available in Apple's implementation too. so, yes, it is a separate standalone browser. Install the app and see for yourself.

Other than Bookmark and History Tracking, and maybe multiple tabs, what else is there to a browser besides the rendering engine? I guess you could count the scripting engine, but that seems pretty tightly integrated with the rendering engine in all the libraries I've used; so much so that they are usually in the same library.

Re:This can't be a browser due the Apple Store (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097757)

"BLABLABALBABLABALBALBALBABLABLBALBALBALBALBALBALBA"

it's a shell around iOS safari. even icecat is more of a real separate browser.

Re:This can't be a browser due the Apple Store (1)

Trilkin (2042026) | more than 2 years ago | (#40098003)

It's an engine wrapped in a browser wrapped in a shell wrapped in a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a flaky tortilla.

Re:This can't be a browser due the Apple Store (4, Insightful)

Rennt (582550) | more than 2 years ago | (#40098101)

I believe the point is that if it is sold on the App Store we know it cannot be a stand alone browser by virtue of Apple's store policy.

How, um, new, & revolutionary, but... (1)

atari2600a (1892574) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097329)

...This isn't 2008. Seriously it's like Yahoo! is constantly on a 5-year delay with half of this crap...ever use Yahoo! Groups? It's worse than dialing into your local BBS...

Read the source Luke (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097843)

because its just a toolbar re-modelled,
its primary purpose seems to be setting a GUID, a yahoo cookie and tracking everything you do with a web bug beacon, and it injects external scripts on every page
reading the source reveals their true intents and its not an extension to help you

basically its good old spyware

Yahoo eh? (4, Funny)

lewko (195646) | more than 2 years ago | (#40097899)

Can't wait to see Altavista's entry into the mobile browser market.

Too Late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40097995)

They've finally caught up with where the rest of the business was several years ago. At this pace, they're on track to lay off another 23,000 within the year. Stick a fork in 'em; they're done. ATT DSL will have to find another host for their front page. Who might they be re looking at?

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