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Is Facebook Going To Buy Opera?

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the browser-wars-the-sequel dept.

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New submitter x0d writes with this excerpt from the L.A. Times: "The Facebook spending spree may be continuing as a new report says the social networking giant might be looking to buy Norwegian company Opera Software. Now fully under the microscope of Wall Street as well as Main Street investors, Facebook is trying to solve its mobile monetizing problems and has been gobbling up various companies in recent months to increase its presence in the world of smartphones."

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No! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119549)

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Re:No! (-1, Troll)

Chrisq (894406) | about 2 years ago | (#40119611)

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Re:No! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119641)

Parent links to what looks like a scam warning but is actually an ad for another virus removal service...

Re:No! (0, Troll)

lightknight (213164) | about 2 years ago | (#40119657)

Hmm. On an off topic note, I am starting to think that thing is a bot.

Might I suggest the /. admins that they employ a simple script that grabs the IP address (and whatever else) whenever someone posts with that text?

Then post the info to 4-Chan. I hear they have remarkable turn-around times when dealing with objects of sufficient irritation.

Dynamic IPs. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119801)

...that grabs the IP address (and whatever else) whenever someone posts with that text?

And what if it is a dynamically assigned IP address? Someone who has had nothing to do with the spam post gets locked out. I've had that happen to me a few times (especially back during the GNAA days) where I try to post and I get the message that there were too many negatively mod'ed posts from this IP when I never even posted.

RE:No! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120351)

It's part of slashdots' new business model, you must of forgotten that slashdot is owned by Rupert Murdoch.

Re:No! (-1, Flamebait)

Barsteward (969998) | about 2 years ago | (#40120293)

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Rockmelt (2)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119563)

If they do, wont Opera be forgotten like Rockmelt is?

Re:Rockmelt (5, Funny)

sammyF70 (1154563) | about 2 years ago | (#40119567)

wtf is rockmelt?

Re:Rockmelt (2)

gl4ss (559668) | about 2 years ago | (#40119675)

it's a WOWser.
no, I didn't make that up myself.

as to the facebook acquisition.. it would be probably for the development talent, basically just one big recruitment of mobile, javascript, cloud and html knowhow.

Re:Rockmelt (2)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 2 years ago | (#40119743)

It looks like Chrome minus everything that makes Chrome so popular.

Re:Rockmelt (2)

mateuscb (1052870) | about 2 years ago | (#40119907)

Thats because Rockmet uses Chromium. They simply added a couple of "plug-ins" to allow facebook, twitter integration. Best part, they managed to get $40 million in investment. Go figure. http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/19/rockmelt-vs-chrome/ [techcrunch.com] . As far as data collection, a small start-up, entering a cut-throat browser market, with facebook and twitter logins isn't going to collect anything?

Re:Rockmelt (5, Insightful)

inasity_rules (1110095) | about 2 years ago | (#40119627)

I hope not. I actually like Opera.

Re:Rockmelt (4, Insightful)

lightknight (213164) | about 2 years ago | (#40119697)

Indeed. This is a Merger / Acquisition that, from a quality of life standpoint, I do not prefer to see.

Opera Mobile is...a very nice browser on my Droid. A very, very nice browser. I'd like to keep it that way (the thought of Facebook posting to my wall with updates based off of my latest webpage viewings is more than a little disturbing; "lightknight said he would be at Ken's BBQ by 5:00PM, but we can see that he accessed Google Maps 21 minutes ago, and his GPS / location shows him at least 47 minutes away. -> 5:01 PM").

Re:Rockmelt (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120141)

OT: I just got an Android phone (first smartphone), and am trying to figure out what the best browser to use is. Does Opera Mobile have a good adblock? I can't seem to find one...

Re:Rockmelt (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120213)

If you use Chrome on your desktop AND you have Android 4.0+ on your phone, then use Chrome for Android. It's really nice.

If you use Firefox on your desktop OR do NOT have Android 4.0+ on your phone, then use Firefox Beta on Android. It's also really nice.

The reason I recommend using the same browser on both desktop and phone is because of each browser's syncing capabilities. If you've never set that up, now's a good time to. It's really nice to be able to e.g. access/modify your bookmarks from any device and access tabs on your desktop (for example) from your phone and vice versa.

Re:Rockmelt (4, Informative)

moronoxyd (1000371) | about 2 years ago | (#40120605)

Opera browsers already have a filtering mechanism build in. What they are missing is a list of stuff to filter.

Just search the web for an urlfilter.ini, download that, put it on your Android device and point Opera Mobile to it.

Re:Rockmelt (4, Insightful)

1u3hr (530656) | about 2 years ago | (#40120123)

Damn. I've been using Opera for several years now. If it comes under the thumb of Facebook, I'll jump ship. I don't want those fuckers backdooring themselves into everything I do online.

Re:Rockmelt (1)

beachcoder (2281630) | about 2 years ago | (#40120445)

Agreed. And without an alternative browser I want to use, I may just have to leave the Internet. Time to buy that yacht :)

Possibly adios... (4, Interesting)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about 2 years ago | (#40120455)

Damn. I've been using Opera for several years now. If it comes under the thumb of Facebook, I'll jump ship. I don't want those fuckers backdooring themselves into everything I do online.

Likewise. Opera has been my main browser for more than a decade, although my wife generally uses Firefox. Luckily, I've also been using Chromium, and consider it an acceptable replacement: not quite as good with privacy settings, but slightly more compatible with weird web sites. If Opera becomes part of Facebook, I'll drop it on principle (all Facebook IPs are already blocked by my router to inhibit unwanted tracking).

Re:Rockmelt (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120555)

Don't worry, if Opera does get acquired by a huge corporation with a strong interest in gathering as much information as possible about you, you can always just switch to Chrome!

Re:Rockmelt (4, Insightful)

buddhaunderthetree (318870) | about 2 years ago | (#40120433)

You like Opera? I love Opera. I've been using Opera since way back at version 2.0. Remember the browser that would fit on a floppy? I even paid for it. Sure, it's not perfect but it's pretty darn good. Now it's endanger of being taken over by a company I personally don't use and can't stand. I would have rather seen it die back in the 90s than to me such an ignominious fate.

Nice one (5, Interesting)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 2 years ago | (#40119565)

The opera mobile browser works by offloading a lot of work to a server run by opera. This would give facebook access to everything which goes through every mobile opera browser.

Re:Nice one (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119579)

Only if you turn on Turbo mode. It's off by default.

But yes it would suck ass if Facebook bought Opera. Opera Mobile is the first thing I install on any smartphone. The desktop version of Opera sucks but the Mobile version is the best browser for any mobile device.

Re:Nice one (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119623)

Opera Mobile Mini has this option turned on by default, with no option in the GUI to turn it off. I guess if you knew where to look through the files you could turn it off via a configuration file.

Re:Nice one (5, Informative)

Lennie (16154) | about 2 years ago | (#40119709)

Actually you can't turn it off, because Opera Mini isn't a real browser, that is the whole point of Opera Mini. It is just a client which displays what the Opera server prerendered.

Re:Nice one (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119595)

That's only Opera Mini, not Opera Mobile

Re:Nice one (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119597)

And that will be the day I will stop using Opera, Desktop and mobile.

Re:Nice one (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119613)

And that will be the day I will stop using Opera, Desktop and mobile.

Idem. These kinds of occasions underline why it is so important going open source for long term survival.
I love Opera, have being used it since version 7. Its a full featured browser, infintely configurable and really multiplatform.
The day Facebook buys Opera is the last day I use Opera, on smartphones and the desktop. And I will go reluctently to Firefox. But it will be a big regression in terms of configurability and stability.

Re:Nice one (2)

craigminah (1885846) | about 2 years ago | (#40119953)

Yup. Opera is my fave browser on my iPod Touch but it's not quite there for desktop use. So close to being me default desktop browser but it's missing some features and a little quirky but it's got HW acceleration across all platforms and plugin support (just no XMarks, FlashGot, or 1PassWord support). I always check out each new version of Opera only to uninstall it a few days later. If Facebook buys Opera I won't have to check out Opera anymore...

Re:Nice one (5, Informative)

hairyfeet (841228) | about 2 years ago | (#40119633)

You got it back asswards friend, Opera MINI does the whole "go through Opera servers" thing whereas opera MOBILE only does so if you activate turbo.

Re:Nice one (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 2 years ago | (#40119693)

But either way its a great way to collect data. Google must be kicking themselves.

Re:Nice one (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119739)

Why? Google is already doing it with Android and Chrome.

Re:Nice one (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | about 2 years ago | (#40119943)

Why? Google is already doing it with Android and Chrome.

And every link you click on from Google search, Google news, Google images, etc.

Re:Nice one (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120025)

[citation needed]

Re:Nice one (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120265)

How do you think phishing protection works?

Re:Nice one (1)

jc42 (318812) | about 2 years ago | (#40120331)

The opera mobile browser works by offloading a lot of work to a server run by opera. This would give facebook access to everything which goes through every mobile opera browser.

As far as I've been able to determine, this includes setting up https links. So we're talking about facebook getting a copy of all your login credentials, and you bank-account info if you use your phone for any financial purposes.

If this isn't true (i.e., the encryption is done in the phone with the ids and passwords not available to the Opera servers), it'd be interesting reading about how we'd verify it. Otherwise, we should assume that logins and passwords are known to the browser's owners. Opera seems to have a very good reputation about such things, but how far do you trust facebook?

Bad decision (4, Funny)

Centurix (249778) | about 2 years ago | (#40119573)

I'm sure they could have picked up Internet Explorer for a steal. Imagine the positive effect on the stock price!

And in other news... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119581)

Facebook to buy Western Digital. Because they're going to need all those drives to store EVERY. FUCKING. KEYSTROKE.

Warning to Fastmail users (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119591)

Opera owns Fastmail. Do you want Facebook to own your email?

Re:Warning to Fastmail users (2)

dwater (72834) | about 2 years ago | (#40119877)

right. i love fastmail, and can't see it'll survive facebook ownership :/

Re:Warning to Fastmail users (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119923)

Fastmail? More like Whomail.

Re:Warning to Fastmail users (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120009)

As a paying member of Fastmail.fm, I'll be the first to cancel if Facebook takes ownership.

Re:Warning to Fastmail users (2)

silenc3r (2473146) | about 2 years ago | (#40120253)

This better not be true. I have switched to Fastmail about a year ago and I find it superior to Gmail in almost every point, especially privacy which was the main reason to switch for me.

I hope not (4, Interesting)

alphabetsoup (953829) | about 2 years ago | (#40119601)

Opera is the best browser out there. I don't trust Chrome not to report data about me to Google, and if Facebook buys Opera I wouldn't trust it not to report my browsing data to Facebook. I will have to move back to the mess that is Firefox

Re:I hope not (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119865)

Better throw some more memory in your machine. I hear Firefox has a voracious appetite, even today.

Re:I hope not (3, Informative)

cparker15 (779546) | about 2 years ago | (#40120063)

In Preferences, on the General tab, check the box to prevent tabs from loading until they're activated. Almost makes Firefox feel like a lightweight browser.

Also, this add-on helps mitigate Firefox's chronic memory leak problem: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/memory-restart/ [mozilla.org]

Re:I hope not (0)

allo (1728082) | about 2 years ago | (#40120427)

why are you having tabs opened, if you do not use them? just click the little close button.

Re:I hope not (1)

DogDude (805747) | about 2 years ago | (#40120769)

An add on to help a memory leak problem? Sweet Jesus, that browser's such a mess. I don't understand why anybody uses it.

Re:I hope not (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 2 years ago | (#40120633)

Better throw some more memory in your machine. I hear Firefox has a voracious appetite, even today.

It would be great if Firefox had a bigger leak management team, but I try not to spend too much time on $15 problems [newegg.com] .

Re:I hope not (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119873)

Tried Chromium, the browser that Google-Chrome is built on?

Re:I hope not (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120375)

Firefox is as messy as you make it.

Re:I hope not (1)

cpghost (719344) | about 2 years ago | (#40120493)

Since you don't have the source code to Opera, what makes you think Opera isn't also reporting browsing data, just like Chrome allegedly does?

Re:I hope not (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120803)

I went to a conference recently on security. I learned that Opera Mini sends out your page requests to the opera servers to be rendered buy it does another call that sends the info to a server in maryland. don't believe me? Do a tcpdump and see for yourself.

Opera & P2P (2)

sonamchauhan (587356) | about 2 years ago | (#40119607)

Hmmm .... Opera optionally bundles a web server (Opera Unite) with its browser. With music, photo and note sharing, I always thought that was Opera's attempt to be a P2P version of Facebook.

Who knows, Facebook may end up becoming more P2P-ish, a la Skype -- a centralised set of 'supernodes' that track who's talking/streaming photos/video/comments to whom (and keeps a copy), but without the infrastructure and delays their current 'hub and spoke' model requires.

Re:Opera & P2P (1, Interesting)

SJHillman (1966756) | about 2 years ago | (#40119665)

The difference between Unite and Facebook, other than privacy, is that Unite is useful.

Re:Opera & P2P (1)

netsharc (195805) | about 2 years ago | (#40120155)

Except that if you're serving content using a standard home connection, the upload bandwidth is a fraction of download bandwidth, and those pics will take forever to load compared to pics served by Facebook...

Re:Opera & P2P (2)

Sentir101 (2648211) | about 2 years ago | (#40120211)

Hmmm .... Opera optionally bundles a web server (Opera Unite) with its browser.

Support for Unite is actually dropped and it will be removed before the end of this year. I have no idea if similar things are (or will be) possible with their extension platform though.
Source [opera.com]

If Facebook buys Opera I will definitely switch to another browser, mobile browser and e-mail client...

If you bought Facebook stock, this is on you! (2)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119609)

That's why you don't give these fuckers money. They're going to ruin it for everyone, not just for the idiots who sign up for their walled garden.

I sure hope this doesn't happen... (2)

xeriouxi (1370427) | about 2 years ago | (#40119617)

I can't stand Facebook and refuse to have an account with the service, despite the continuing trend of many companies requiring an account for one thing or another, but if they were to buy Opera then that would mean they also acquire FastMail; my current email service. Over my dead body would I entrust my emails to Zuckerburg and his company.

Re:I sure hope this doesn't happen... (1)

gmdiesel (1272738) | about 2 years ago | (#40119653)

Oh the irony. The little browser I loved, supported for years, version after version, then ultimately gave up on after tiring of all the sites that wouldn't work with it (surrendering to Firefox, which for some odd reason got the user base in months that Opera couldn't get in years), gets bought by a service I cannot stand. Hell, Opera might as well be bought my the Redmond Beast.

Re:I sure hope this doesn't happen... (2)

SJHillman (1966756) | about 2 years ago | (#40119679)

Yeah, that got fixed a while ago when websites started complying with standards. Now Opera works with pretty much every site except those few that detect which browser you're using and tell you to go use IE/Fx/Chrome/Safari. Of course, it's only about two clicks to get around it.

I really hope not. (4, Interesting)

Daneurysm (732825) | about 2 years ago | (#40119681)

On one hand I think the FB app could use a LOT of advice from Opera's mobile team. I have an overclocked GalaxyS2 running at 1.5ghz...modded to the gills. Nothing on this phone is slow...except Facebook. Every update makes the experience more and more miserable. Opera's mobile/mini browsers are among the fastest and smoothest apps I have ever used. By far. Bar none. On any mobile platform....or any platform ever, for that matter. On the other hand I've been using Opera for over 12 years now. It is my go-to browser and it is the first thing I install on a computer...regardless of OS. It has always been ahead of it's time...often by a very long time (we've been returning to the same multi-tabbed browsing session for how much longer than everyone else?). Anyone I recommend the browser to becomes a lifelong fan. Geeks and non-geeks alike. It's tiny, lightning quick, hyper-compliant and more configurable than anything else.

I know that having Facebook sized development money can be nothing but a great thing for the progress of the browser, but, I'm more concerned with the direction of this development. Also some very obvious concerns with the use of turbo-mode to help FB aggregate more of the world's information...

...I'm going to vote 'I really hope not' on this one.

Re:I really hope not. (2)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | about 2 years ago | (#40119997)

I know that having Facebook sized development money can be nothing but a great thing for the progress of the browser, but, I'm more concerned with the direction of this development.

Microsoft has "Facebook sized development money" and it took until IE 9 to get a good browser out of them. Google has a lot of development money too, and Chrome has its upside (besides reporting everything you do to the Google mothership). Apple has even more money, but they aren't spending it on browser development.

Based on Facebook's history of harvesting anything and everything about users, using tracking cookies on other sites even when those visitors don't have Facebook accounts, using the same Safari cookie exploit as Google, and having a constantly moving target for privacy, I wouldn't trust a Facebook owned browser on any device I own.

Is Facebook Going To Buy Opera? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119689)

Acredito que o facebook esta querendo dominar 100% porem sabemos que tudo tem seu alge e sua decadencia.
nada fica para sempre no topo.
http://youtu.be/YvDKny5pNWQ

Please, no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119691)

Just please, no. Let this be a joke, please.

TFA claims Norway celebrates Memorial Day (0)

CyberK (1191465) | about 2 years ago | (#40119703)

Way to go with the fact checking. Sure, Norwegians celebrate the end of the American Civil War. Just like the US Independence day and Thanksgiving. (We do have a day off for Pentecost, though.)

Uff Da (1)

rossdee (243626) | about 2 years ago | (#40119829)

So what is the 17th of may? I heard that was some Norwegian celebration. (Syttende Mai or something like that.) It was on the calendar at work. I live in Minnesota

Re:Uff Da (1)

kyrre (197103) | about 2 years ago | (#40120015)

17th of may is constitution day. It is a celebration of the norwegian constitution and independence from Denmark in 1814. (Never mind the 91 year union with Sweden which was forced upon Norway few months earlier that year).

Re:Uff Da (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120027)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Constitution_Day

That took about 10 seconds

Re:TFA claims Norway celebrates Memorial Day (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119989)

I guess it's a coincidence that Pentecost (which is always 50 days after Easter) falls on the same day as the American Memorial Day holiday this year, and probably because in America they think the whole world is like America, they think we celebrate Memorial Day...

Re:TFA claims Norway celebrates Memorial Day (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120033)

Ok actually to be fair when I originally thought the day off in America was also for Pentecost. But that would at least have made sense, because AFAIK they're more Christian-minded than we are in Europe.

But I guess in Europe we just keep the good parts (= the holidays ;)) while in the U.S. they are dead serious about it instead.

I wouldn't put it past Opera to allow it (4, Interesting)

game kid (805301) | about 2 years ago | (#40119729)

I haven't used Opera in a good long while*, and I've never heard of the mentioned source site Pocket-lint, but after the damning parting words of von Tetzchner [slashdot.org] , I wouldn't put it past Opera to allow let Facebook take them.

Nice knowin' ya, Oppy.

*Actually I did a few times a month or two ago for some SVG testing; otherwise I've barely touched it, and I'll be uninstalling it now just in case the probable turns out true.

Better targets (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119775)

There are better targets than a once-great browser. Opera is no longer, no matter what their home page says, the fastest browser in the business.

Twitter, for example. A Facebook takeover of the company will ensure render comatose any hopes G+ has of winning any marketshare.

Another is Yahoo. Too big? I'm pretty sure Yahoo's stockholders would agree to a stock swap that would leave hot-young CEO Zuckerberg in control. Facebook can use some of whatever remains of Yahoo's search technology.

Re:Better targets (3, Interesting)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | about 2 years ago | (#40120019)

There are better targets than a once-great browser. Opera is no longer, no matter what their home page says, the fastest browser in the business.

It's not really about fast, though piss poor performance would be a problem. It's about not having to develop a brand new mobile app/Facebook-content-delivery-app. Opera has 'mobile' and 'mini'. One of which (mini?) does all it's work on the Opera servers. This would let Facebook see everything you do ... and I mean everything. That fits perfectly with their current mission of harvesting anything and everything they can about their users.

It will become malware then (1)

gelfling (6534) | about 2 years ago | (#40119843)

Opera will become a browser app for fb

Re:It will become malware then (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120709)

Haha, I can imagine it now. My mother is reading through her newsfeed and it says "Your Son visited Hardcore Cum-Dumpster Preggo Midgets for 327 minutes."

No thanks!

bigger and bigger (1)

GeeZGaW (2648181) | about 2 years ago | (#40119855)

Companies that tend to get always bigger and bigger end up being unstable, don't they ?

Re:bigger and bigger (2)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about 2 years ago | (#40120679)

Companies that tend to get always bigger and bigger end up being unstable, don't they ?

As a Cyberneticist I can tell you that this is another layer of control. We built the intangible machinations of Corporations and Government to follow an innocuous looking program that would seem to rocket them to success. It's unfortunate at the moment that some see through the matrix of logic and are disheartened, proclaiming, "We're being ruled by out of control legal machines!" Yes, that's how it's supposed to work. No one can't stop them, because they can't stop themselves... You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.

However distressing the situation may be in the moment, take comfort in knowing that there is another overarching system at work, inherent to the core logic of the Idea Machine Nation. The structures of their fractal information flow are each designed to seem very different on the outside, yet even as they compete with each other all are ultimately carrying out the inherent meta-logic loop: Like their organic progenitors, these cybernetic entities have an inborn entropic feedback loop, and have been destined to die since birth.

Though its both joyous and painful at times, this is the system that will boostrap us into a race of rational beings. With each systematic growth and collapse we fall a little less. With each rebirth our species climbs a little higher, and leaves a little more false information and bad ideas behind. All things are cyclic. Failure is a part of the plan, the trick is recognising the point at which the inevitable profit obliteration begins.

I hope not (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40119881)

I hope Facebook does not buy Opera.
If they're interested in buying Opera, I hope the courts prevents it.

Unless their intention is to open source it.

Re:I hope not (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about 2 years ago | (#40120231)

I hope Facebook does not buy Opera. If they're interested in buying Opera, I hope the courts prevents it.

Unless their intention is to open source it.

Just like they open-sourced the rest of their code???

How will that help? (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about 2 years ago | (#40120227)

iPhones come with Safari and few people ever install another browser. Android phones come with a stock browser and few people install another browser. Opera has little potential to help Facebook crack the smart phone marketing problem. Besides, now that Facebook is a public company, it can't spend its money willy-nilly like it used to and not have to worry about shareholder suits and financial oversight.

original sin (1)

noshellswill (598066) | about 2 years ago | (#40120257)

Opera carries an **original sin** from the ol' daz of having cheated buyers of O_3.6x when it updated to 4.x, requiring additional payment! It was understood (legal schmeagle ... spare me shiit about confusion!) that the flaws in O_3.6x would be remediated and early buyers rewarded with the next release. Not so; Opera wanted another $25! Treacherous! Years later the bad taste remains for many of us. Not that we will even piss on FACEBOOK infantilism, but just saying karma has a way of multiplying evil. So I say sure FACEBOOK waste $2-B on Opera and clasp the viper to your breast!

I'm a fastmail user. Where do I go? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120581)

Once the giant facebook monster gobbles up my precious email, which provider do I then switch to. Any good alternatives out there?

Dear Opera, don't get ZUCKED, SAY NO TO FB! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120595)

~ Tutti all'Opera! ~ http://www.searchlores.org/tuttiope.htm

Hard to rationalize the continued use of opera the moment it becomes owned by facebook, and in my personal opinion it already begins to tarnish opera's name.
UNITY accounts could have their data swallowed up or reigned into facebook, personal info, whatever, another clusterfuck of bs. I'm sure that's not why people have unity accounts to be fed to a government database. Burp...

Please, God, no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40120597)

I actually like Opera!

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