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Another Afghan School Poisoned — 160 Girls Hospitalized

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the setting-a-bad-precedent dept.

Education 474

An anonymous reader writes "Back in April, we discussed news of an anti-education attack on an Afghani school, which poisoned 150 Afghan schoolgirls. Now, a hospital in the same province has admitted 160 more girls who seem to have suffered a similar attack. 'Their classrooms might have been sprayed with a toxic material before the girls entered, police spokesman Khalilullah Aseer said. He blamed the Taliban. The incident, the second in a week's time, was reported at the Aahan Dara Girls School in Taluqan, the provincial capital. The girls, ages 10 to 20, complained of headaches, dizziness and vomiting before being taken to the hospital, said Hafizullah Safi, director of the provincial health department. More than half of them were discharged within a few hours of receiving treatment, Safi said. The health department collected blood samples and sent them to Kabul for testing.'"

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474 comments

Clearly a very serious issue, but (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40145951)

What does this have to do with /.?

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (2, Insightful)

jtnix (173853) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146037)

What does this have to do with /.?

absolutely nothing.

Proof that the original /. is dead and gone and all we are left with is this crap-pile of AJAX and bad design.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (0)

rullywowr (1831632) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146059)

If I had mod points today, I would have modded you up. How does this relate to tech or IT?

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (1, Troll)

Bootsy Collins (549938) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146241)

/. was never meant to be just about tech/IT. In fact, these days, it's arguably more that way than it was as a baby.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (1)

rullywowr (1831632) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146403)

/. was never meant to be just about tech/IT. In fact, these days, it's arguably more that way than it was as a baby.

Someone should slap the parents of this "baby"

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146785)

If I had mod points today, I would have modded you down. Talk about mod points is by definition off-topic.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (5, Insightful)

jdgeorge (18767) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146087)

Perhaps you've forgotten the old Slashdot slogan: "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters". This kind of stuff was on Slashdot since before I had a Slashdot user ID.

The thing that's changed on Slashdot is that there are now professional Slashdot astroturfers working for big tech companies.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146277)

The thing that's changed on Slashdot is that there are now professional Slashdot astroturfers working for big tech companies.

And foreign governments.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (5, Funny)

virgnarus (1949790) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146363)

You know what, I wholeheartedly concur. But before I extrapolate on your wisdom, let me first turn your attention to how I managed to successfully evade a viral attack with the help of an incredible product, MyCleanPC...

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146425)

This has to be the funniest thing I have read on here in a long time.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146531)

Why would there be professional astroturfers on here today? Slashdots numbers have fallen on significantly in the past couple of years. This place is a ghost town compared to what it was 5 years ago.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (5, Insightful)

Sarten-X (1102295) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146565)

Exactly. I read Slashdot not because I don't care about the non-tech world, but because I don't care about the pointless drivel that fills most "news" sources. I don't care about the some bimbo's annulled wedding, or the color of a pop star's shoes, or the 12 most adorable breeds of puppies. I want to know news about my interests, and things that will have a lasting effect on the world I live in. I want news for nerds and stuff that matters. I read Slashdot.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (2)

jtnix (173853) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146675)

Perhaps you've forgotten the old Slashdot slogan: "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters". This kind of stuff was on Slashdot since before I had a Slashdot user ID.

I too was reading here back in the 90's and can't say I can recall non-tech articles of Fear and Loathing with any frequency.

The thing that's changed on Slashdot is that there are now professional Slashdot astroturfers working for big tech companies.

This comment is of course a better answer to my comment above which has already been labeled as troll, which I suppose is deserved given it's brevity and offtopic closure. So, in light of that I will attempt to give a better answer why this article has no place on /. :

This is not tech news, and does not 'matter' at all to the tech community, period. I can read this immediately on any other mainstream news source in minutes, including non-news sources like Facebook, Twitter, etc. so posting it here is not adding to my daily news experience. I assert this is obvious, so what use does this article have here?

Simple. Articles of Fear and Loathing are like a train wreck that is impossible to not watch. It serves the purpose to engage and distract you from what you should / could be doing positively with your life. This is the primary objective of any mainstream media outlet, which /. has obviously become. Of course the Media says their motive is to generate discussion on how we might possibly 'solve' problems like this in the future, but in actuality all it does is anger or sadden most people and distract them from the positive things in their lives.

I used to read /. regularly because they generally avoided nonsense like this in favor of genuine geek news topics. I have learned to get my informative reading from other sources, especially using a news reader of my own selection of curated bloggers who share my sentiments of mainstream media.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146047)

Oh hi there, you must be new here.

Slashdot:
News for nerds, stuff that matters.

File this under the latter

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146079)

I'm pretty sure the tagline "stuff that matters" is tounge-in-cheek as most of the news that we nerds enjoy doesn't really matter at all in larger context.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (4, Insightful)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146201)

I assume the education slant would appeal to nerds. Nerds should be pro-education and should be concerned about literally violent anti-education movements.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146143)

Well, when the opportunity arises, I think the Slashdot editors like to plant a nice racebait story to draw in all the jackasses for a bit. See, pretty soon this thread will devolve into a series of psychotic rants about how we should "kill all them goddam towelheads". That may seem like a reason not to post it, until you consider that for the next couple hours, the rest of us will be able to discuss the next handful of stories in relative peace, save for the blatant Microsoft astroturfing that will inevitably dominate the first posts.

Can someone remind me why I still read the comments here?

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (4, Insightful)

Concerned Onlooker (473481) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146315)

"... to draw in all the jackasses for a bit."

I don't think the Taliban read Slashdot.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146159)

Yes, it's true that slashdot is a techie site, but...

just once in a while, let go of your Asperger's responses and realize that there's a larger world around you.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (3, Insightful)

jythie (914043) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146211)

Geeks and nerds often care about education related issues, which 'we would rather kill our females then let them learn to read' falls under.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (1)

N0Man74 (1620447) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146649)

Geeks and nerds often care about education related issues, which 'we would rather kill our females then let them learn to read' falls under.

Yes, as a geek/nerd, I care about education issues, social issues, and civil rights issues. Most of the geeks/nerds that are in my social circles are also.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (3, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146483)

Maybe some people who read Slashdot are interested in it? There are currently several stories on the front page that I have no interest in (especially the one with SlashCloud in the summary, a clear indication that at least one of the editors is dangerously rabid) and Slashdot comes with a very convenient feature to let me avoid them. There is a link next to the story that I am not interested in labelled 'Read the {some number} comments'. Using my pointing device of choice, I carefully move the cursor away from this link and don't click on it. Slashdot even provides a very convenient user interface optimisation here, by making not clicking on it the default! I suggest that you may wish to do the same thing.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146559)

"News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters". Civil rights and stuff... nerds care about this stuff. go eat a bag of dicks.

Re:Clearly a very serious issue, but (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146829)

Actually, those girls are the geeks of Afghanistan. I think it's appropriate for /. readers to find out that somebody is trying to kill our female peers.

Off topic, maybe. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40145973)

"More than half of them were discharged within a few hours of receiving treatment, Safi said."

Why can't we get a figure for this rather than an inaccurate round-up?

Re:Off topic, maybe. (2)

Fwipp (1473271) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146369)

Even a good (large) hospital will have problems dealing with 160 patients admitted simultaneously. Afghanistan's hospitals are hardly stellar (0.4 beds per 1000 people, according to google). It shouldn't be surprising that they don't keep wonderfully accurate records in cases like this.

It's all relative, right? (1, Flamebait)

geoffrobinson (109879) | more than 2 years ago | (#40145987)

How is one culture supposed to judge another culture? Everything is relative...

Until you actually get told otherwise by your conscience.

Universal Human Rights Are Above Relativity (4, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146329)

How is one culture supposed to judge another culture? Everything is relative...

Until you actually get told otherwise by your conscience.

Well, from my philosophy courses in college (as financially useless as they may have been) there's actually been a lot of study and attempts to codify [un.org] what should be regarded as Universal rights. There's no need for us to rely on our "conscious" or someone else's conscious nor should we sit back if we feel that human rights are being abused in another nation that is sovereign. I'm a very liberal open minded person. If you want to worship some stupid magic person in the sky, go to town. If they start to infringe upon others' life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, then we have issues that must be remedied.

Your lax definition of a 'Conscious' be damned, begin the escalation of political pressure then economic pressure then physical pressure.

Sort of on topic, from your signature:

Except for ending slavery, the Nazis, communism, & securing American independence, war has never solved anything.

The Nazis were stopped because they blatantly violated (nearly) everyone's rules of Universal Human Rights -- so much so that many of their own detested it. And we should not allow something like the Holocaust to happen again. Communism, on the other hand, is a counter case. We went into Vietnam under the laughable pretenses that a Universal Human Right is capitalism in place of communism (with obvious self interests). Believe it or not, communism does not blatantly violate everyone's rules of Universal Human Rights and so we were kind of lacking on the support and moral high ground for that war. If you think communism has been "ended" and that it has been "ended" by war and not inherent corruption that it can't seem to shake -- you and I must be reading different books by very different authors.

To recap, Universal Human Rights transcend your suggestion of relativity. I'm not sure but if you're attempting to make fun of people who tolerate other cultures by saying it's relative, there's no place for that when you're dealing with a child's life and their attempt to be educated.

Re:Universal Human Rights Are Above Relativity (5, Informative)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146537)

The Nazis were stopped because they blatantly violated (nearly) everyone's rules of Universal Human Rights -- so much so that many of their own detested it.

I would have to disagree. After Pearl Harbor, U.S. declared war on Japan, Japan declared war on the U.S., Germany declared war on the U.S. Then the war machine started cranking and the Allies took back Europe. Allies stumbled across concentration camps, and the world learned how evil the Nazis really were. We didn't enter WWII because they "violated human rights." We entered because the Axis attacked us.

Re:Universal Human Rights Are Above Relativity (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146753)

We entered because the Axis attacked us.

Here's a hint: USA didn't save the world from the Nazis. They just shortened the war.

Re:Universal Human Rights Are Above Relativity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146787)

Believe me, Germany wasn't defeated in WWII because so many Germans detested their own countries government. If you need any further proof of how much they were in it for the long haul you need look no further than the happenings during the battle of Berlin. These weren't a people who go upset, laid down their arms and walked away. They fought to the bitter ends of it all.
 
And as for Vietnam? So you would have shrugged off the concept of a first would country languish while other uninvested non-national forces determined their future without any regard to their own freewill? Yeah, you're an asshat.

Re:Universal Human Rights Are Above Relativity (0)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146803)

Believe it or not, communism does not blatantly violate everyone's rules of Universal Human Rights...

Tell that to the surviving members of the Chinese Cultural Revolution. I dare you!

Re:It's all relative, right? (1)

busyqth (2566075) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146367)

Well it will be a relief when the guys who did this take over the government of the country as then they will be able to simply ban the girls from school and take them at an early age as 3rd or 4th wives instead of being forced to poison them.

Re:It's all relative, right? (1)

haruchai (17472) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146499)

Are you from a culture where everyone is insane?
Not judging, just asking.

Re:It's all relative, right? (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146533)

How is one culture supposed to judge another culture? Everything is relative...

If you recognize that it's relative, then attempting to stop people who do things that you disagree with can be perfectly in line with your own views.

Until you actually get told otherwise by your conscience.

Your conscience could say that 1 + 1 = 3, and it still wouldn't be correct.

This is all part of Romney's war on women! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40145993)

I'm tired of Romney using BAIN capital to poison women and destroy jobs! ALL CHRISTIANS ARE EVIL!

      -- This post paid for by the Obama citizens for anti-hate speech tolerance positive hope and change grass-roots locally grown unicorn commitee 2012.

Re:This is all part of Romney's war on women! (0)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146515)

locally grown unicorn

See, it's true! The Democrats are anti-trade, meaning that they are anti-capitalist! Joe the Unicorn Importer is going to be earning less under Obama's policy!

Religious extreme (3, Insightful)

Spiked_Three (626260) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146001)

This is what happens when too many people believe too literally in 1000 year old witch craft.

And this is exactly where the US could be heading if the current 50% of the population gets any stronger. Rick Santorum was as scary to the US as Hitler was to Germany. If we let nutcases like that become president, which a large number of people supported, this will be common in the US as well.

Re:Religious extreme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146103)

50% of the US population is religious extremists? And even if they are, why would Santorum have to be President for this to be common? Radicals in the US need Presidential support before they'll act?

As usual, there is little sense behind this fearmongering.

Re:Religious extreme (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146333)

Radicals in the US need Presidential support before they'll act?

Of course not. After all, those little girls could still be saved. No, they focus on the irredeemable. Like abortion clinic staff.

Re:Religious extreme (0, Flamebait)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146115)

This is what happens when too many people believe too literally in 1000 year old witch craft.

And this is exactly where the US could be heading if the current 50% of the population gets any stronger. Rick Santorum was as scary to the US as Hitler was to Germany. If we let nutcases like that become president, which a large number of people supported, this will be common in the US as well.

Let's break down your logic:

Islamists poison schoolgirls, therefor, if Santorum were elected, he'd be like Hitler and lead the US to a 1938 style of Fascism.

Did I get it right?

The hatred is strong in this one. It has clouded his logic.

Re:Religious extreme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146137)

If you really think this type of shit will stop if you could somehow erase religion, I have some very expensive and crappy things to sell you....

You are just as big an idiot as they are.

Re:Religious extreme (1)

black_fist (1374111) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146217)

Wow, bashing religion and invoking Hitler in the same post! You, sir, are an epic flamer! Every time someone compares a politician to Hitler it diminishes the perceived badness of what Hitler did. Even with a complacent congress it is very unlikely that Santorum commit atrocities anywhere near what Hitler did.

Obviously flaming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146495)

Santorum would have women barefoot and pregnant, Muslims/immigrants/gays in concentration camps.

Re:Obviously flaming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146661)

Is there a downside?

Re:Religious extreme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146535)

Since the maximum size recorded of the Nazi party was 8.5 million, and the standardized unit of evil is the "kilonazi" (KNz, and apologies to New Zealand for the similarity), it is very clear that Hitler's evilness is properly expressed as "8.5 meganazis." (8.5 MNz)

In contrast, the grandparent post, despite agressive attempts to invoke the atheist Slashdotter portion's emotional response, ranks at a fairly pathtic 0.05 Nz. If it had been a competant flame, he might've ranked a bit higher.

Re:Religious extreme (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146687)

The problem with the whole Hitler thing is that it takes the blame from where it should be.
All cultures have Hitlers running around. The problem is that the fucking Germans elected him to office and followed his bat shit crazy ass.
Hitler would have been just another fucking nut no one gave a shit about had not an entire fucked up country followed him.

Re:Religious extreme (1)

jythie (914043) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146267)

I think the frightening thing is, there are many people alive today that were around for when events like this WERE part of US history, and there are a non-trivial number of people who believe that things were better when women were property, minorities knew thier place, catholics and mormons were not christian, and the establishment clause outlived its usefulness and thus was ignored.

Though no good is going to come Goodwinning this early... ok, not 'this early', ever.

Christian Nation? (3, Insightful)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146299)

And this is exactly where the US could be heading if the current 50% of the population gets any stronger. Rick Santorum was as scary to the US as Hitler was to Germany. If we let nutcases like that become president, which a large number of people supported, this will be common in the US as well.

Most Americans do not really believe in religion, and only identify with Christianity because they think they should, and the certainly are not Muslims.

The truth is that while many people are vaguely âoespiritualâ, most people no longer attend church regularly if at all, and only a small percentage of so-called âoeChristiansâ in this country can tell you anything at all about the Bible, old or new.

There are people who bleat about this being a âoeChristian Nationâ, but statistically, factually, it isnâ(TM)t so. I donâ(TM)t think it can even be proven that we are a âoecertainly not a Muslim nationâ, either.

We are mostly agnostic.

Re:Christian Nation? (3, Funny)

zlives (2009072) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146509)

my belief prevents me from believing your statements.

Re:Religious extreme (1, Interesting)

Psyborgue (699890) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146419)

I'm Gay and i'd vote for Santorum. Why not? Obama is not going to let me marry. He says he supports gay marriage as a personal opinion but he quickly notes it should be left up to the states -- which is really no different than any of the republican candidates when it comes down to what will get done. When it comes down to it most presidents, regardless of party, will do pretty much the same things when they get elected. Plus. I'm sick of Obama sucking the cocks of our enemies and weakening our position on the world scale. I didn't much like the way Bush did things but I like Obama even less.

Re:Religious extreme (0)

haruchai (17472) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146577)

Which enemies is Obama fellating?
He may be a long way from perfect but the US is much better perceived on the world stage with him in office than it was with Bush or would be with any of the current TeaPublican lunatics in charge.

Re:Religious extreme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146735)

...the US is much better perceived on the world stage with him in office....

Proof that the world is full of idiots.

Re:Religious extreme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146619)

I'm sick of Obama sucking the cocks of our enemies

Yeah! Like when Bush went in to Pakistan and killed Osama! Or Obama shut down Guantanamo and let all the terrorists go free!

The only enemy getting any "action" is China, and no matter who we elect, they'll be investing in some knee pads for our most favored nation.

Re:Religious extreme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146667)

Both sides are bad, so vote republican?

You're completely delusional if you think they're the same "when it comes down to what will get done".

Re:Religious extreme (0)

sribe (304414) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146541)

Rick Santorum was as scary to the US as Hitler was to Germany.

I was actually hoping he'd the nomination. I figured that he'd lose to Obama by such a huge margin, that it would force reform in the Republican party, pushing out the religious fringe. Now instead we have a halfway decent politician stuck having to pander to the wingnuts...

Re:Religious extreme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146793)

It wouldn't have helped. They would have just decided that they weren't socially conservative (ignorant and bigoted) enough, and run an even nuttier crowd next time.

As some of us smarten up, and leave religion behind, the folks that put their wacky beliefs before evidence just get angrier and more set in their ways.

Republicans have disconnected from reality completely with the help of well-financed propaganda, and I don't know how to bring them back to sanity.

Re:Religious extreme (0)

Dishevel (1105119) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146627)

So how exactly was it that this country did so much better than any other while the percentage of tolerant religious folk was well over 50%?

I think the Taliban are anti-girl. (3, Informative)

slackware 3.6 (2524328) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146005)

Not anti-education.
And that is why there are a bunch of hairy dudes cuddling each other in caves in the mountains instead of being at home cudling with their wives.

Re:I think the Taliban are anti-girl. (3, Insightful)

sheph (955019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146045)

That should be encouraging. In another 100 years of no women the problem should naturally fix itself.

Re:I think the Taliban are anti-girl. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146715)

No, the problem won't "fix itself". They purposely use their women to create... boys. I read somewhere that they have a saying about "women to make children, boys for pleasure". I think the culture might have a degenerate form of Greek pederasty. There's exploitation, but AFAIK no mentorship, resulting in poor outcomes for the youthful victims.

Re:I think the Taliban are anti-girl. (1)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146825)

no, they generally don't kill women, they impregnate them, early and often. the problem that will grow is more muslims assholes who abuse women.

Re:I think the Taliban are anti-girl. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146147)

I think it's both, but yes, this particular incident is more about being anti-girl

Re:I think the Taliban are anti-girl. (3, Insightful)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146265)

I've not heard anything about them cuddling together in caves. But, there have been plenty of reports about rape and pornography (male on female). So, I would suspect this is pretty much an anti-education for girls thing as they're saying. They're fearful of what an educated woman would mean to their absolute control over them.

Re:I think the Taliban are anti-girl. (4, Informative)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146713)

They're not anti-girl, they're anti-empowered girls.

Hopefully they will soon make the realization that (1)

rs1n (1867908) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146015)

even if they want a society in which women are subservient, they still need women. Even at the most basic level, you cannot have sons without a mother. It is a pity, though, that some people feel so threatened by others of different gender (or race, education, etc) that they must resort to violence.

Re:Hopefully they will soon make the realization t (4, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146247)

Uh I don't think you get the import. This wasn't an attack against random women, it was an attack against women seeking an education. They are aware that they need women. They would rather those women stay at home and spit out then take care of sons rather than seek to better themselves.

The message is: Women who seek to become educated will be targeted with violence. Remain at home, weak, ignorant, and dependent. Then there will be slightly less^W^W no violence.

Another peaceful message (1, Insightful)

dskoll (99328) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146029)

from the Religion of Peace (tm)

Re:Another peaceful message (2, Insightful)

chemicaldave (1776600) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146405)

a fine of example of "blame the tool and not the wielder"

Re:Another peaceful message (5, Informative)

dskoll (99328) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146471)

No, you have your head in the sand. Read the Qu'ran sometime and some of the other Islamic writings. They demand that Muslims emulate Mohammed, and they go into great excited detail about how Mohammed massacred people who mocked him. See for example Sahi Bukhari :Volume 5, Book 59, Number 443 which describes a massacre in great and gory detail.

Re:Another peaceful message (4, Insightful)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146417)

Because of course a small number of evil bastards act with the full support of all of the billions of Muslims in the world. By your logic, guys like Anders Breivik and Scott Roeder act with the full support of all Christians.

Re:Another peaceful message (1, Informative)

dskoll (99328) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146449)

No, not at all. But study the Qu'ran. It justifies (in fact, demands) violence to convert non-believers to Islam.

Just because all religions are bad doesn't mean some religions aren't worse than others. We see a lot more religiously-motivated violence from Muslims than from other religious groups; that's just a fact.

Islam is a colonialist ideology whose goal is world domination. This is plainly stated in its writings.

Re:Another peaceful message (4, Insightful)

saveferrousoxide (2566033) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146669)

Typically, i wouldn't bother responding to this, but i'm tired of hearing it.
YOU should actually study the Quran, because it actually says exactly the opposite. It demands that you educate yourself (male and female) and demands that no one be forced to convert because that is not a true conversion. There is no more colonialism in Islam than in Christianity, so just stop. You're not helping educate anyone, you're just spreading more misinformation that furthers the divide of understanding between 3 billion people. Stop it.

Re:Another peaceful message (2)

dskoll (99328) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146765)

The Quran is full of contradictions. This is so that Muslims can pick and choose what to present to outsiders. (There are similar things in the Bible too, so it's not only Islam that's guilty of this.)

There are at least a hundred Quranic verses extolling violence, not to mention many more Islamic writings. These are not abrogated by the token expressions of peacefulness.

We see the consequences today. If you cannot recognize religiously-motivated violence when it blows up in your face, then I guess you can continue to deny reality.

Re:Another peaceful message (0)

Lithdren (605362) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146453)

I'd kindly request people not confuse the Talaban with any religion trying to issue a message of Peace.

They're much like the Catholic preists who molested children and then got wisked away by higher ups trying to cover their own butts. They abuse the message for their own gain not in the name of the god they claim to follow, but for their own self-worth and warped ideals. The Koran, much like the Bible, are full of really good messages. They're also full of a lot of garbage.

A distinctly human trait.

Re:Another peaceful message (1)

Lithdren (605362) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146545)

Hate to reply to myself, but clearly I meant Taliban, not Talaban.

I'm sure the grammar Natzi's will follow shortly with other issues in my post I'm not seeing offhand, this post included.

Re:Another peaceful message (2)

dskoll (99328) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146603)

The Koran, much like the Bible, are full of really good messages. They're also full of a lot of garbage.

Yes, absolutely. However, the garbage in the Quran is unfortunately peddled by a large number of religious authorities. Islam is structured in such a way that an observant Muslim is required to dedicate himself (it's always "him") to religious warfare and must be prepared to commit violence to expand Islam.

You can ask any Islamic scholar about this. They'll either confirm it or dissemble, but the response will be obvious.

Re:Another peaceful message (1)

ewieling (90662) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146585)

from the Religion of Peace (tm)

Christianity?

People pervert religion to their own ends, regardless of which religion it is.

Re:Another peaceful message (3, Insightful)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146659)

Tell me something, between Christianity and Islam, which one of the two has committed nearly 19,000 terrorist attacks since 9/11? [thereligionofpeace.com] I'll give you a hint, it's not Christianity.

To the mods now. Refute the point, and don't be an intellectual coward and moderate something because you don't like it.

Re:Another peaceful message (3, Informative)

dskoll (99328) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146671)

No, you have your head in the sand. Although there are more Christians than Muslims, the number of religiously-motivated violent attacks by Muslims today far outweighs religiously-motivated attacks by Christians.

Currently, there are religiously-motivated wars and attacks in Mali, Kenya, Nigeria. There are religiously-motivated bombings, suicide attacks, etc. in Iraq, Pakistan, Indonesia, Phillipines, Thailand. I could probably think of 100 examples in the last year if pressed.

On the Christian side, I can think of Brevik and the Oklahoma CIty bomber and maybe some attacks on abortion providers. Very small-scale indeed compared to Islamic religious violence.

Re:Another peaceful message (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146697)

Another glib, laconic barb from harbingers of ignorance.

How can I best explain to you how miopic and short-sighted you are? Perhaps I can try to relate it in terms your most likely to understand.

Apply your logic to Star Wars. Follwoing your reasoning, all those who believe in the Force are evil, crazed fascists. After all, it was followers of the Force (Sith) who destroyed Alderaan.

Or did I just blow your mind?

Iraq redux (1)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146049)

Note to US: let someone else try and police the mess this time.

Solution (4, Insightful)

Hentes (2461350) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146117)

Make the schools coeducated. The Taliban will be pissed but hopefully they wouldn't attack boys.

Re:Solution (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146287)

Unfortunately that would not be culturally acceptable to most of those presently sending their girls to school.

Re:Solution (1)

Hentes (2461350) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146341)

Not every Afghan is an extremist. When the alternative is having their girls poisoned, I think many would view it as a lower risk.

Re:Solution (3, Interesting)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146459)

Their culture is inhumane and should be replaced without qualm or concern. Problem solved.
Aside from that, the protocol is simple, build two identical schools on each side of town, each morning flip coin and heads the boys go to the north school, tails the girls go to the north school. Ditto the delivery of water trucks (like last incident) etc.

Re:Solution (2)

bhlowe (1803290) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146351)

Hmm, except that would make the whole school eligible for the death penalty:
From this week's news... :" Four women and two men have been sentenced to death in northern Pakistan for singing and dancing at a wedding, police said yesterday. Clerics issued a decree after a mobile phone video emerged of the six enjoying themselves in a remote village in the mountainous district of Kohistan, 176 kilometres (109 miles) north of the capital Islamabad." Source. [kuwaittimes.net]

Re:Solution (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146393)

Make the schools coeducated.

This would alienate many of those who are willing to accept girls going to school in the first place. It would be somewhat analogous to trying to solve the problem people had with blacks receiving an education at all in the Reconstruction era by forcing integration 80 years early. In trying to stymie your foes, you've only succeeded in multiplying them.

Basically, the situation is more complicated than complete backward asshats willing to poison girls just to punish them for trying to become educated, and equality-of-sexes feminists.

Islam strikes again! (3, Interesting)

Psyborgue (699890) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146145)

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."

Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826

And this is hardly the instance of this in Islam.

A note for naysayers (4, Interesting)

Quila (201335) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146523)

Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826

The "Sahih" in this means that the source and the chain of narration of the Hadith is considered to be trustworthy. Of all Sahih Hadith, al-Bukhari is considered the most trustworthy. This means that to the average Muslim, there can be no doubt that Mohammed said this, and therefore that it must be true.

There is a very small minority of Muslims who reject all Hadith, believing only the Quran is authoritative and that it actually bans following texts such as Hadith. Mainstream Islam considers them to be apostates. Too bad, you remove Hadith, you remove much of the backwards, nasty stuff about the religion.

Re:Islam strikes again! (5, Insightful)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146607)

If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do.

Exodus 21:7

And this is hardly the only instance of this sort of sexism in Judaism and Christianity. What's your point?

Mass Hysteria (2)

smugfunt (8972) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146337)

The conclusion jumped to is that this is a Taliban attack. However, this is actually quite a common - though unexplained - phenomenon: Mass Hysteria [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Mass Hysteria (3, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146547)

It's not a terribly implausible conclusion, given the prior history of school attacks, and the fact that getting your hands on reasonably noxious(though generally not lethal except in quantity) toxins is pretty damn easy in agricultural areas, especially ones that haven't exactly had OSHA breathing down their necks...

Re:Mass Hysteria (3, Informative)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146587)

Ummm, except this is hardly the first time school girls have been targeted with poison, or acid, or fire, or gunshots.

It's not like we need to come up with alternate explanations because poison is implausible here -- this is straight out of the Taliban playbook.

Are you asserting this or things like this haven't happened? I'm not sure why you're suggesting we need an alternative explanation which implies this didn't really happen.

So wrong (1)

Wingfat (911988) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146353)

I know that there are bad people around the world. but this has to be stopped. The whole religion holding down the masses in any country is upsetting. USA was founded on freedom of Religion (I am a minister of UCL, subdivision of Norse Gods) But they don’t want me to start churches for it ;-) hehehe. What we really need to do as /.ers is find evidence of Alien life that they cannot dispute, end all religions and start over with something more fitting like a “Book of How to be Chivalrous”.

Re:So wrong (0)

BlueStrat (756137) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146731)

...and start over with something more fitting like a "Book of How to be Chivalrous".

From an anonymous FaceBook wall:

Post: "Chivalry is dead!"

Comment from friend: "Who?"

And some people I know wonder why I don't have a FB account. :-)

Strat

NOW We Care... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146555)

...but when it was the Russians, in the 1980's, instead, we just funded this sort of behavior.

Let's refer to the Afghan people correctly... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146557)

It's an Afghan school, not Afghani. Afghani is their currency.

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40146635)

They catch a cow, and they make manure-bombs out of it. They get a hold of cleaning-supplies, and they use it to poison little girls.

Somebody better call the Ghostbusters before they get their hands on a marshmallow.

But seriously though, fuck'em.

The strange irony of Afghanistan circa 2012 (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 2 years ago | (#40146759)

It used to be a rather progressive nation in terms of women's rights. I recall a figure that about 60% of doctors there were women at one time. Now, we can directly and indirectly blame the mess that country has become on 30 years of foreign intervention.

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