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Fourth European Committee Rejects ACTA

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the going-for-the-high-score dept.

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Dangerous_Minds writes "Last month, ACTA was rejected by three European committees (the industry committee, the civil liberties committee, and the legal affairs committee). Now, a fourth European committee, the Development Committee, has voted to reject ACTA as well, making it zero for four. ZeroPaid is offering a quick timeline of the series of blows to ACTA all last month as well. The next stop for ACTA will be the Trade Committee which is scheduled to hand down a decision later this month on June 21. From there, it'll head to the full House for a vote in July."

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Any chance left? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40225833)

If it falls in Europe, does it mean other countries like Canada will also drop it?

Re:Any chance left? (1)

Bob535 (639390) | about 2 years ago | (#40225917)

We (Canada) are busy building our own Crappy Copyright legislation again anyways. Doesn't matter what it's called.

Re:Any chance left? (2)

Kergan (780543) | about 2 years ago | (#40226647)

Whether it succeeds or fails in Europe isn't relevant. The real deal is China and whether anything they pass there is actually enforced.

Re:Any chance left? (2)

cbope (130292) | about 2 years ago | (#40229715)

If it ultimately fails in Europe, ACTA is effectively dead. It doesn't matter what happens with China at that point if Europe doesn't sign on. I don't recall the number immediately, but there is a minimum number of countries that must sign the agreement for it to be valid and with the European countries out of the mix there aren't enough first-world countries left to achieve the minimum required.

Thanks to the grassroots movement here in the EU, the politicians are finally seeing the light that we do not want ACTA in any shape or form. This is how democracy should work.

Re:Any chance left? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40234907)

As a proud UK citizen (white), I'm disgusted that the EU can impinge on our sovereign wish to be buggered silly by corporate interests and to do every fucking thing America asks. Our elected representatives put their constituents first, proving that we're happy to accept unjust laws and censorship if it means that just one media corporation or IP holder can squeeze a penny more profit.

Cameron, for fuck's sake you'd better placate the yanks. How about sweetening the extradition treaty we have with them. Instead of requiring next to no evidence before plod will dispatch Brits to American justice, how about they require no evidence at all? Sign a unilateral and enhanced version of ACTA, criminalizing the playing of music in the home if more than three adults are present. Send Charlotte Church over to give Obama a tit wank he'll never forget! God bless the union jack and all who wave her in defense of Vivendi and BMG!

Re:Any chance left? (2)

davester666 (731373) | about 2 years ago | (#40228749)

What exactly is the point of all these votes? Are they just putting it in front on any committee's they can find, hoping one of them will pass it?

If all the committee's reject it, why have the full House vote on it? If they'll vote on it anyway, why have these committee's vote on it if it makes no actual difference?

And yes, I'm pissed that the Canadian gov't bent over and took it from the US over ACTA, as well as following up with legislation for even more repressive copyright crap.

Re:Any chance left? (2)

tao (10867) | about 2 years ago | (#40230083)

Because the committees are just recommending YES/NO based on their specific area of (sometimes "so-called") expertise.

For instance, a committee specialised on power and industry might be totally for opening another coal mine. A committee specialised on environmental issues is probably gonna be against it.

Since ACTA is a trade agreement, the Trade committee is the main committee, and their recommendation thus -- normally at least -- carries the most weight.

In the end though, the representatives in the parliament are the ones deciding whether or not to follow the recommendations of the committees. The EU parliament can be quite unpredictable from time to time...

The Europeans have solved Greece (4, Funny)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 2 years ago | (#40225887)

So that's how Greece and Spain and France are going to be bailed out - just reject ACTA and hope the MPAA throws more money that way to encourage them to reconsider.

Free money too - no pesky austerity measures or anything.

Re:The Europeans have solved Greece (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40226075)

Have been watching Fox news?

Re:The Europeans have solved Greece (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40226233)

Have you been watching CNBC? How about Portugal, Italy and Ireland? BTW Spain was "fine" just last week. My, how quickly things can change when your books are cooked from the start.

Re:The Europeans have solved Greece (1)

Spad (470073) | about 2 years ago | (#40226323)

Spain really wasn't "fine" before last week, it just started getting a lot more media coverage because of Bankia et al.

France isn't fine either, but it's a long way from being as bad as Portugal or Greece; Ireland & Italy have made solid steps to move their economies back from disaster but they've still got a way to go before they're "safe".

Re:The Europeans have solved Greece (2)

Luckyo (1726890) | about 2 years ago | (#40226477)

Not funny. Sums involved are simply from different worlds. We're looking at about five to seven orders of magnitude of difference.

Re:The Europeans have solved Greece (1)

Prune (557140) | about 2 years ago | (#40228835)

They don't need the MPAA's money, as they can get free money from the European Central Bank.

Re:The Europeans have solved Greece (1)

Boscrossos (997520) | about 2 years ago | (#40230527)

If by "free" you mean "with enough strings attached to knit warm winter sweaters for all the elephants in Africa and Asia combined", then yes.

Seriously, have you seen what Greece has had to do to keep getting its money?

Re:The Europeans have solved Greece (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | about 2 years ago | (#40231519)

Seriously, have you seen what Greece has had to do to keep getting its money?

Yes, it's had to keep promising not to blow it all on coke and hookers. Then it does, and suffers the ignominy of having to promise the same thing all over again, this time with slightly more sniggering.

Get it clear, the Franco-Prussion Tranzis holding the purse strings would rather beggar Europe and watch it all burn down than admit to any voluntary reduction in the size of the Union.

Re:The Europeans have solved Greece (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40238217)

UKIP or BNP? I hear the National Front is back on the up. Yes, it's that fucking obvious.

The US debt is much larger (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40231059)

The important question most Americans are ignoring is how the US is going to get bailed out. Your country owes more than all of Europe.

To the full House? (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | about 2 years ago | (#40226065)

What house? :-/

Re:To the full House? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40226243)

After the five committees of the European Parliament, the entire plenary of the parlament is going to vote on ACTA. They are not bound by the recommendations from the committees.

Bad summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40226215)

One might point out that the term "European committee" is not helping. The committees in question are committees from the European Parliament, the parliament of the European Union.

Author of ZeroPaid article (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40226241)

Outtake from the guy's bio:

A journalist in the field since 2005 [..] With journalism techniques he's been able to pioneer in the business (such as coverage in Canada and in non-English countries), he has the skills to be at the forefront of file-sharing and technology news.

Pioneering coverage of Canada and "non-English countries" since 2005! There have to be some serious journalism techniques in play here...

Hah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40226611)

Screw you, Hollywood!

Proper terminology (1)

jxander (2605655) | about 2 years ago | (#40226843)

Seeing as how this is all taking place in Euro'ville, shouldn't "making it zero for four," be instead written as "Manchester United 4 - ACTA nil?"

Re:Proper terminology (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40227185)

I wept, because I had no hat, until I met a man with no brain.

Re:Proper terminology (1)

jxander (2605655) | about 2 years ago | (#40227229)

pfft. I meet people without brains every day... though I suppose "meeting" isn't the best terminology, as they're usually posting AC.

P.S. a more proper use of that old adage would be ", until I met a man with no head"

Let us remember .... (3, Insightful)

Greymoon (834879) | about 2 years ago | (#40227763)

Although ACTA is more than just copyright infringement enforcement, let us remember that extended copyrights are nothing more than a rights holder stealing your cultural history.

Fix that first.

Yeah right (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40227817)

There is far too much political power (rich and interested people) behind the notion that ideas can and should be owned. They do not consider extended copyrights to be broken, and will not relinquish an ounce of control without being outright forced to do so.

And forcing them to do anything requires a damn lot of cooperation from a damn lot of people.

Good luck with that battle, buddy.

Re:Let us remember .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40230831)

I disagree. I think not losing your fundamental rights is more important than cultural history. Especially given that once your fundamental rights are gone, cultural history will follow anyway.

noisy protests (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40241573)

The contribution that all the noisy protests organized in various European countries, showing the firm intention of the citizens to express their disapproval toward the inacceptible policy of ACTA, is simply undeniable.
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