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Verizon Wireless Goes Ahead With 'Bucket' Data Plans

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the just-what-nobody-wanted dept.

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CanHasDIY writes "Previously, it was reported that Verizon was considering eliminating their current data plan scheme, as well as the grandfathered unlimited plans, in favor of a new 'bucket' plan in which up to 10 devices would share a data allotment. Verizon has now officially acknowledged the new scheme, called the 'Share Everything' plan, which will go into effect as of June 28, 2012. According to USA Today, 'Under the new pricing plan, a smartphone customer opting for the cheapest data bucket, 1 gigabyte, will pay $90 before taxes and fees ($40 for phone access and $50 for 1 GB). Customers can add a basic phone, laptop and tablet to share data for $30, $20 and $10, respectively.' Those of us still grandfathered into the unlimited plan will be forced (when upgrading) to either sign up for Share Everything or one of the tiered pricing plans currently in effect."

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376 comments

Oh really? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314201)

Looks like the prepaid phone market's getting another customer when my Verizon contract ends.

Re:Oh really? (4, Informative)

schwit1 (797399) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314775)

I just got the HTC EVO V on Virgin Mobile
$45/month with 1200 minutes and unlimited data.
4G, Android 4.0 and it's a hotspot.

What the Hell??? (5, Insightful)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314203)

$50 for 1 gigabyte of data?!? That's insane!

Re:What the Hell??? (2)

SirGarlon (845873) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314257)

Yes, but Verizon I'm sure will market this as beneficial to subscribers. "Now you get unlimited voice and text, and you can put all your devices on our network for CHEAP!" Conveniently sweeping under the rug the massive price increase on data...

Re:What the Hell??? (2, Insightful)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314283)

Thinking it over, I suspect that Verizon is about to prove that yes, consumers really are that stupid.

After all, they've been raping their customers for years, almost at will and whim. What makes 'em think that anything will change now?

Re:What the Hell??? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314313)

Thinking it over, I suspect that Verizon is about to prove that yes, consumers really are that stupid.

After all, they've been raping their customers for years, almost at will and whim. What makes 'em think that anything will change now?

It's a semi-free market. Show them you won't put up with their bullshit. Try something like 'Republic Wireless'...

Re:What the Hell??? (1)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314427)

I'm not a Verizon customer. How exactly does one leave Verizon if one was never with them in the first place?

Re:What the Hell??? (4, Funny)

chromas (1085949) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314643)

1) Subscribe to their service
2) Leave
3) Profit

Re:What the Hell??? (-1)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314331)

Let me make this quick: If you had two smartphones, the same 1GB (if that's all you used) would have cost you $60 a month. Now, it's $50, and $50 is less than $60. How this is difficult for people to come to terms with is really amazing. Verizon has been moving away from unlimited for years so go ahead and forget any retort that includes "but but but unlimited was only $30 and unlimited is like infinity many of 1GB, so 1GB should be free!!!!!!111"

Re:What the Hell??? (1)

petteyg359 (1847514) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314425)

Wrong. It now becomes $90 per month, according to TFA, because you have to pay an extra $30 to add the scond phone.

Re:What the Hell??? (5, Interesting)

Baloroth (2370816) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314477)

You are being a little dense. Previously, up to 2GB of data would have cost me $30 a month. Now it will cost $50 a month, for 1GB. Before that, $30 would have gotten unlimited data.

So from a consumer point of view, the deal has gotten worse and worse. And it still costs money to add devices to the plan for data sharing, leaving this an all-around shitty deal.

Re:What the Hell??? (-1, Troll)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314543)

You are being a little dense. Previously, up to 2GB of data would have cost me $30 a month. Now it will cost $50 a month, for 1GB. Before that, $30 would have gotten unlimited data.

So from a consumer point of view, the deal has gotten worse and worse. And it still costs money to add devices to the plan for data sharing, leaving this an all-around shitty deal.

If you are on a plan, by yourself (or with just one smartphone), you do NOT want the share everything tiers, and you do NOT have to use them! You can keep your 2GB/$30 tier for as long as you want, those are NOT going away ANY time soon. The article is a hyperbolic piece of shit.

Re:What the Hell??? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314653)

Many people are on family plans and this will increase their costs.

Do you work for verizon?

Re:What the Hell??? (5, Informative)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314793)

How do you reconcile your statement with the Q&A from the article [usatoday.com] ?

Q: I'm single and I just want a smartphone, that's it. The cheapest Shared Everything plan looks pretty expensive at $90 per month, and that's with just 1 gigabyte of data. Is there no alternative?

A: There's one cheaper plan, intended for first-time smartphone buyers. It gives you unlimited calling and texting, and just 300 megabytes of data per month. If you're frugal with data usage, that will get you by. It costs $80 per month.

If USA Today is making that up, as you claim elsewhere, they have one hell of a lawsuit coming from Verizon. They would have yanked the quoted text the second someone told them how badly they'd gotten it wrong. Why is it still up there?

Re:What the Hell??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314489)

Even if you were right, that would mean that it's only extremely expensive instead of ridiculously expensive. How can there not be riots in the streets with cellphone plans that steep? WTH, America? You're getting fleeced.

Re:What the Hell??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314639)

Even if you were right, that would mean that it's only extremely expensive instead of ridiculously expensive. How can there not be riots in the streets with cellphone plans that steep? WTH, America? You're getting fleeced.

Assuming we weren't too fucking lazy to riot in the first place, we do have more important things going on in the country to riot about instead of what a cellphone company is charging for service.

Re:What the Hell??? (1)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314507)

Let me make this quick: Generally, as technology improves and the customer base grows, the cost-per-customer of delivering service decreases.

With Verizon, the faster you can move data to your devices, the less of it you're allowed to move and prices keep going up. Unlimited data didn't start out at $30, it started out at $15. And I don't know where you got $60/month for a gig of data. There's no reason to make things up. Verizon's a la carte pricing for data on smartphones is $30 for 2 gigs, $50 for 5 gigs, $80 for 10 gigs.

Re:What the Hell??? (1)

C_amiga_fan (1960858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314563)

Still think wireless internet is the future? Rather than wired internet?

I get $90 for phone number one, and $120 if you have two phones. So it isn't any cheaper. (And for us single folks, it's actually MORE expensive.) Hard to believe Verizon used to offer me a phone for just $10/month. Creeps.

VirginMobile offers me unlimited data for $35 a month. True it slows down to 2xISDN speeds after 3GB, but I still prefer to stick with them.

Re:What the Hell??? (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314565)

Let me make this quick: If you had two smartphones, the same 1GB (if that's all you used) would have cost you $60 a month. Now, it's $50, and $50 is less than $60.

From TFA:

Under the new pricing plan, a smartphone customer opting for the cheapest data bucket, 1 gigabyte, will pay $90 before taxes and fees ($40 for phone access and $50 for 1 GB)

$40 + $50 != $60, by any stretch of the imagination.

Re:What the Hell??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314575)

This is the boat i'm in, and I'll tell you why I don't like it, I don't have unlimited data so that I can use unlimited data. I have unlimited data so that I know what my bill will be every month, I have unlimited data so that on the off chance I need it, it will be there and I don't have to worry about going over. Apparently Verizon is too good to take my money for nothing, that's fine, I'll give it to someone else and fail that no one at all.

Re:What the Hell??? (3, Informative)

Sechr Nibw (1278786) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314741)

You can keep your unlimited data plan, for a price. Rather than signing a new 2 year contract, and saving $500 on your new phone, you can pay full price for the phone, not be locked into a 2 year agreement, and keep the unlimited data package.

Re:What the Hell??? (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314795)

Then why not switch to another carrier and buy an unsubsidized GSM phone that works when I travel?

Re:What the Hell??? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314627)

Yes, $60 is less than $50, but the $40 per phone service charge is more than what we are paying now. Also many people use more than 1GB, especially between 2 or more people. My family plan has two users that together use 4GB of data and under 300 minutes and 500 texts combined, we currently pay $120. Under this plan we would pay $80 just for phone service and another $70 for data. That means our bill would go up by $30 a month.

Instead I will switch carriers. I have no interest in unlimited voice, nor texts. I would in fact love a data only plan and just use voip.

Germany here. 1GB = 9.90€. Prepaid. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314403)

And for twice that, you already get 5GB! At full speed.

That's what people get, when they allow their government the power to push against the companies. (Of course that doesn't work, if the government IS the companies.)

I can just hope that things get better for you in the US. Even though that would require what would basically be a un-brainwashing...

Re:Germany here. 1GB = 9.90€. Prepaid. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314801)

Go look at mobile phone plans in Austria if you really feel like getting your envy on. Drei.at: 1000 minutes, 1000 SMS, unlimited data (full speed up to 2GB, then 64kbps), 10€.

How about France? mobile.free.fr: 20€ for unlimited calls to France, USA and Canada, unlimited calls to landlines in 40 countries, unlimited SMS within France, unlimited data (full speed up to 3GB, then throttled).

If Americans traveled outside their own country more then they wouldn't accept the prices they pay.

Re:What the Hell??? (4, Funny)

TheScarryKitty (2585471) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314501)

You should listen the Marketplace Tech Report by John Moe about this. He asks the Verizon rep "why?" and there is a 10 second uncomfortable pause followed by a incoherent, rambling, talking point type response.
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/verizon-trying-stamp-out-unlimited-data-customers/n [marketplace.org]
Laughed my ass off listening to it on the radio.

Re:What the Hell??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314651)

Nonsense. My current plan is $15/month for 150MB of data and that's the cheapest possible plan Verizon ever offered post-iPhone era smartphone users. Paying 3.33 times more money would theoretically get me 6.8 times more data. It would make complete sense if I actually wanted a data plan.

$90 for 1GB (1)

headhot (137860) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314213)

Wow, what a deal! Thats only $9 a device for 100MB each!

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314219)

Now it's as bad in the US as here in Canada?

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314419)

No. I live in Canada and pay $45 CAD for _truly and fully_ unlimited phone, text and data. It is in their terms and conditions that the data gets throttled after a couple of GB in a month, but I still don't pay extra.

This looks to me like things are much much worse in the USA than in Canada.

Holy shit! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314221)

$50 FOR A GIG!?!?!?!

Man, these guys are smoking some killer crack.

Seriously? (3, Interesting)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314233)

Unless the other carrier follows suit, how on Earth do they expect to keep customers?

Certainly,while Sprint and T-Mobile may be small, and AT&T has sucky customer service and/or coverage (I'm sitting here at home with a AT&T smartphone that has zero signal - thank Heaven for automatic call forwarding), any of the three would be infinitely better than being forced to shit out what is likely going to be a three-digit cell phone bill each month.

Then again, knowing carriers, they'll likely start jacking their rates in proportion to how badly they want new customers vs. getting a piece of that pie.

Re:Seriously? (5, Insightful)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314355)

Unless the other carrier follows suit, how on Earth do they expect to keep customers?

Odds are good that they're trying to see if other carriers follow suit. Back in the days before the Internet, 1 airline would raise prices at 4:45 PM on Friday afternoon, see if the other airlines raised their prices to match over the weekend, and if they didn't then lower the prices back down at 8:15 AM on Monday morning. Legally, that's not price fixing, even though in practice it is.

Ugh. Worst summary ever? (0, Redundant)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314237)

According to USA Today, 'Under the new pricing plan, a smartphone customer opting for the cheapest data bucket, 1 gigabyte, will pay $90 before taxes and fees ($40 for phone access and $50 for 1 GB). Customers can add a basic phone, laptop and tablet to share data for $30, $20 and $10, respectively.' Those of us still grandfathered into the unlimited plan will be forced (when upgrading) to either sign up for Share Everything or one of the tiered pricing plans currently in effect."

The "bucket plans" are for people with MULTIPLE LINES. Any price comparison for someone who has JUST ONE LINE (as they attempted here) is completely POINTLESS. Compare the new "bucket" rates to FAMILY PLANS for MULTIPLE smartphones and you will see that the pricing is either pretty much equal, or cheaper depending on how much data you use. Regardless, I expect approximately 9,234,987 slashdotters will be chiming in about how if they ran a wireless company, they would do things completely differently. I can't wait to read each and every reply.

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (4, Insightful)

SydShamino (547793) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314329)

DID you not see the BIT about them dropping all THEIR other plans? So there's plenty point TO comparing these new prices to existing one-LINE Verizon prices as Verizon CUSTOMERS will soon be paying these prices or no LONGER be Verizon customers.

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (2)

Caratted (806506) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314459)

DID you not see the BIT about them dropping all THEIR other plans? So there's plenty point TO comparing these new prices to existing one-LINE Verizon prices as Verizon CUSTOMERS will soon be paying these prices or no LONGER be Verizon customers.

Not all of them.

or one of the tiered pricing plans currently in effect.

Was that so difficult? Disclaimer: When my grandfathered unlimited goes away, so do I. Also, what the shit is with your illogical, all-caps emphases?

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314797)

I loled at your subtle attempt to make the OP aware of how idiotic it is to capitalize random words.

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (1)

Hardhead_7 (987030) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314359)

OK. TWO people will have to pay $50 for 1GB of data, which they have to share!

You're right, that sounds so much better! A $150 ($130 plus tax and then all the little fake "fees" and "services" they apply to the bill afterward) for two smartphones with ONE WHOLE GIGABYTE TO SHARE!

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (1)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314395)

With free unlimited talk and text. Don't forget that; it's what makes this pricing feasible.

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (1)

DigitalNate (773666) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314573)

If by free you mean $40 each.

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314791)

Seriously wTF?

demonlapin, are you retarded?

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314727)

That does not help one bit.

I want less minutes and less text in my family plan. They have already forced me up to 600 minutes of which we use about 150 minutes combined.

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314735)

That's free talk and text if you pay $50 a month to be on the network, so talk and text is $50 a month, not free. How does everyone miss that????????

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (1)

amRadioHed (463061) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314373)

Where do you get the idea this is only for people currently on family plans? I don't see anything in any articles saying this isn't for individual users as well.

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (1)

synapse7 (1075571) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314541)

I haven't found any mention of what happens should one go over the data cap with the new plan, does this jump to the next data bracket or are there other overage fees?

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (5, Informative)

Baloroth (2370816) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314545)

This is completely 100% false. THERE ARE NO OTHER PLANS. From the Q&A linked in TFA

Q: I'm single and I just want a smartphone, that's it. The cheapest Shared Everything plan looks pretty expensive at $90 per month, and that's with just 1 gigabyte of data. Is there no alternative?

A: There's one cheaper plan, intended for first-time smartphone buyers. It gives you unlimited calling and texting, and just 300 megabytes of data per month. If you're frugal with data usage, that will get you by. It costs $80 per month.

In other words, you can do this plan for 1GB of data, or pay $80 for 300MB of data (basically, $40 for 300MB of data, since the phone access costs $40), or you can not buy a smartphone from Verizon. There are literally no other options for new customers.

Re:Ugh. Worst shill ever? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314609)

Right now my plan consists of 3 phones, 2 smartphones with unlimited data and 1 regular phone with no data. I pay ~160 (after taxes and fees) a month of unlimited text, 1100 minutes between the phones. Oh annd I have unlimited data.

So, now with this new plan, I'd have to pay $40$ for 700minutes and 25 cents per text on one phone. Add a "Share Everything" plan for $50 (although I doub't 1gig will cut it). Add 1 other phone to the "Share Everything" plan for $30. That's $120 right there before taxes and fees. There's no indication of what the pricing is to add a line to an existing plan, but let's assume the current rate of $10. So, that comes to a grand total of $130 before taxes and fees. After taxes and fees, it'll be around $140-$150 range?

So let's see for a $20 (at best) to $10 cheaper plan, I'm losing 400minutes, unlimited texting, and wads of data? Woo! What a deal, sign me up for that now!

Completely pointless? Talk about hubris. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314661)

Some companies offer 1GB for $20 for one line. If you only need two lines, which plan are you going to go with buddy?

Psst... you need to compare to know this. (But ain't that pointless?)

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314675)

Not only that, they can still buy unsubsidized phones that will still work with their unlimited plan.

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314703)

It is not pretty much equal you. It will cost me $30/month more for my family plan and mean I can't use more data in the future. I will want more data in the future.

Are you employed by verizon or painfully dense?

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314705)

Let me make this short:

You're completely retarded (as evidenced by your post)

You didn't even read the fucking article (please see my first point)

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (1)

kwark (512736) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314729)

So for 3 phones you have to pay:
$40: 1st phone (smart one)
$30: 2nd phone (basic!)
$30: 3rd phone (basic?)
$50: 1GB
===+
$150 for 1GB shared data or $50/month for 333MB if shared evenly. WTF is Verizon thinking!

In other news I read Lenovo becoming an access provide:
http://news.lenovo.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1602 [lenovo.com]
In NL the prices would be 2GB for 35EUR/month or 5GB for 50EUR/month.
I thought that these prices were to expensive already.

Re:Ugh. Worst summary ever? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314807)

I currently have 2 basic phones and 2 smart phones on my plan. I have 1400 minute/unlimited text plan with 2GB data plan on one smart phone and unlimited (grandfathered) on other smart phone. Cost: $240/mo.

Both smart phones combined don't hit close to 1GB/mo usage over last six months. Average combined is about 350MB (highest was a little over 600MB)

On the new plan (with 2GB shared) my cost will be $200/mo (2 basic ($60) + 2 smart ($80) + 2GB shared ($60)). I'll save $40/mo even with upgrading data usage to something far above our normal usage.

I know this is great for my case. I will certainly benefit from it.

However, I understand how one-line folks (and possibly/probably others) will get shafted if they drop all other possible plans outside the share everything stuff.

My point: This Verizon thing isn't all bad -- but it seems to only cater to people with usage and phone setup like me.

Telcos.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314245)

need to be signed-up with teh DoJ collusion/antitrust plan.

*shrug* (1)

tgd (2822) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314269)

Some may win, some may lose.

In my case, if I had my current ATT account on Verizon, that'd be saving me a nice chunk of money. Anyone with more than one device is coming out ahead. Anyone with a current Verizon data plan *and* a phone will come out ahead. Anyone who is currently paying for tethering will come out ahead.

Personally, I hope ATT does this quickly, as well. (Although, frankly, I wish I could skip the $40 voice part... as it works out to about $2 a minute for the usage I have in a given month.)

Re:*shrug* (-1, Flamebait)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314367)

Some may win, some may lose.

In my case, if I had my current ATT account on Verizon, that'd be saving me a nice chunk of money. Anyone with more than one device is coming out ahead. Anyone with a current Verizon data plan *and* a phone will come out ahead. Anyone who is currently paying for tethering will come out ahead.

Personally, I hope ATT does this quickly, as well. (Although, frankly, I wish I could skip the $40 voice part... as it works out to about $2 a minute for the usage I have in a given month.)

That's what pretty much everyone who poops their pants over this is ignoring: THERE ARE STILL SINGLE LINE PLANS AND THEY ARE STILL CHEAPER. The "share everything" tiers are NOT for single line customers for fucks sake! I can't believe how many people are up in arms about this, it's a relatively minor shift in their pricing model.

Re:*shrug* (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314431)

Some may win, some may lose

Some will only sing the blues
For the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on.

Re:*shrug* (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314765)

This is false.

I have two smartphones on my data plan with unlimited data and this will increase my cost $30/month or mean I have to use less data. Niether is attractive to me.

Not Forced (1)

Physician (861339) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314273)

Actually those of us with grandfathered unlimited plans will not be forced into this bucket of ripoffs plan when we upgrade UNLESS we want a subsidized phone. From here on out, I'll be getting slightly older unsubsidized phones.

I'm not sure I get it (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314285)

Is this some kind of 'cloud' service to upload your bucket list?

Forget all this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314289)

Even before reading this I decided I'm going back to a landline in September. I'm out.

Damn you VZW (1)

hawkeyeMI (412577) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314305)

I recently moved to a rural area where VZW is the ONLY carrier providing service. Unfortunately I had to leave T-Mobile (which I loved) and come to the Dark Side. I always thought it was kind of silly that they charge so much extra for the wireless hotspot service. I guess probably enough people were tethering without that service that they decided to just roll it into their data fees and make it non-optional. I cannot wait until another carrier, any carrier other than VZW, offers service here.

Re:Damn you VZW (0)

C_amiga_fan (1960858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314671)

Don't live in a rural area.
Move closer to the city that has more service.

Buckets might be ok, but these prices? (1)

icebike (68054) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314315)

There is a lot of merit to the bucket idea, where multiple devices can draw from the same data allotment.
Lots of us have cell phones and tablets, (or would like to). Or we live in household with a a couple low-data users.

If nothing else,it puts the policing of high-data use into the group, and brings peer pressure into picture
when you actually share a plan in such households.

But for the individual user with two devices, 90 bucks for one gig, and then having the bill jacked up simply because there is another device
on the line is getting crazy expensive.

It seems like carrier pricing is getting out of hand.

Wonder how long it will be before others follow... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314317)

I wonder how long it will be before AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile follow suit with this. At least it means one can leave the contract because of the rate hikes.

Pretty sad the state of cellular in the US. Two years ago, I was paying around a C-note at T-Mobile for two devices. Tethering? No problem.

Now, with AT&T, I'm paying $400 (although work defrays most of that) for the same thing. Four times the cost, and the speed difference isn't that noticable.

With Windows update and a laptop on the road far away from any Wi-Fi, after one deals with applications updating, the phone's apps updating, the updates of the OS (such as Motorola updating the Atrix and Photon to relock bootloaders), there isn't much left of even five gigs before one goes into $10/gig territory.

Hyperbole much? (3, Informative)

macwhizkid (864124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314337)

'Under the new pricing plan, a smartphone customer opting for the cheapest data bucket, 1 gigabyte, will pay $90 before taxes and fees ($40 for phone access and $50 for 1 GB).

Not that I'm a defender of Verizon, but why the hell would anyone sign up for a shared plan with only one device? Obviously you're going to lose out... the prices are designed to make it marginally cheaper to add additional devices in return for a higher "first device" fee.

The new "share everything" plans are designed to make it easier (and a bit cheaper) for families with a bunch of smartphones, a tablet or two, and text-messaging addicted teenagers. Not for single-device customers looking for a bargain.

Re:Hyperbole much? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314401)

Except this is now the ONLY plan. You won't be able to sign of for "individual" plans. So, who the hell would sign up for a shared plan when all that is offered is "shared" plans. Hmm.

Re:Hyperbole much? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314443)

The new "share everything" plans are designed to make it easier (and a bit cheaper) for families with a bunch of smartphones, a tablet or two, and text-messaging addicted teenagers. Not for single-device customers looking for a bargain.

The new "share everything" plans are designed to lock in families with a bunch of smartphones, a tablet or two, and text-messaging addicted teenagers. and to jack up the prices by $20/month from $70/mo ($40 for voice $30 for 2GB data) to $90/mo ($40 for phone and $50 for 1GB) for single-device customers regardless of whether or not they were looking for a bargain.

Fixed that for you.

Both families and single users get fucked on this plan.

Re:Hyperbole much? (4, Informative)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314483)

The new "share everything" plans are designed to make it easier (and a bit cheaper) for families with a bunch of smartphones, a tablet or two, and text-messaging addicted teenagers. Not for single-device customers looking for a bargain.

Indeed; that is addressed in a Q&A page linked from TFA: [usatoday.com]

Q: I'm single and I just want a smartphone, that's it. The cheapest Shared Everything plan looks pretty expensive at $90 per month, and that's with just 1 gigabyte of data. Is there no alternative?
A: There's one cheaper plan, intended for first-time smartphone buyers. It gives you unlimited calling and texting, and just 300 megabytes of data per month. If you're frugal with data usage, that will get you by. It costs $80 per month.

Re:Hyperbole much? (-1)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314601)

The new "share everything" plans are designed to make it easier (and a bit cheaper) for families with a bunch of smartphones, a tablet or two, and text-messaging addicted teenagers. Not for single-device customers looking for a bargain.

Indeed; that is addressed in a Q&A page linked from TFA: [usatoday.com]

Q: I'm single and I just want a smartphone, that's it. The cheapest Shared Everything plan looks pretty expensive at $90 per month, and that's with just 1 gigabyte of data. Is there no alternative?

A: There's one cheaper plan, intended for first-time smartphone buyers. It gives you unlimited calling and texting, and just 300 megabytes of data per month. If you're frugal with data usage, that will get you by. It costs $80 per month.

That Q&A is USAtoday-conjured bullshit, plain and simple. None of the actual Verizon literature has suggested there will be ONLY a family share plan for all users.

Re:Hyperbole much? (2)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314715)

The new "share everything" plans are designed to make it easier (and a bit cheaper) for families with a bunch of smartphones, a tablet or two, and text-messaging addicted teenagers. Not for single-device customers looking for a bargain.

Indeed; that is addressed in a Q&A page linked from TFA: [usatoday.com]

Q: I'm single and I just want a smartphone, that's it. The cheapest Shared Everything plan looks pretty expensive at $90 per month, and that's with just 1 gigabyte of data. Is there no alternative?

A: There's one cheaper plan, intended for first-time smartphone buyers. It gives you unlimited calling and texting, and just 300 megabytes of data per month. If you're frugal with data usage, that will get you by. It costs $80 per month.

That Q&A is USA today-conjured bullshit, plain and simple.

Somebody take a shit in your niswa or somethin' bro? Being just a bit defensive, aren't we?

None of the actual Verizon literature has suggested there will be ONLY a family share plan for all users.

*looks at own words quoted above*

Never said there was, dink. Calm down before you give yourself a coronary.

Re:Hyperbole much? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314553)

but why the hell would anyone sign up for a shared plan with only one device?

Because you no longer have a choice. That's the whole point of this article! Dumbass. You'll have to pay an extra $20 a month to get half the data (1gb instead of 2gb) compared to their previous plans.

Re:Hyperbole much? (1)

dufachi (973647) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314599)

The problem I'm seeing is if it's $30 per additional phone, I certainly hope that new device gets another 1GB added to the bucket. Otherwise, a family of 5 sharing 1GB of Data for $180 would be ridiculous. For that matter, $180 for 5GB is absolutely insane pricing.

How about $40 for unlimited (3, Interesting)

Galestar (1473827) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314351)

Just a jump over the 49th parallel (Canada) we have Wind Mobile (major cities only). $40 for pretty everything unlimited, no contract. You guys in the U.S. are getting screwed up the ass.

Re:How about $40 for unlimited (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314481)

Yeah, I'm using them too. One small caveat. They only work in the city, and are only available in a few cities, although their network is growing. For the number of times I travel in a year, it makes much more sense to have a phone that only works in the city. I'll buy a disposable SIM card from Walmart for the two weeks a year that I might happen to be out of town. Unlimited data and long distance for $40 a month is much easier to stomach. Oh, and I signed up during the back to school rush, so I only pay $29 a month for that plan. Watch out next august/september. They charged me $10-15 for setting me up on that plan because I was an existing customer, but I saved that much in the first month.

Re:How about $40 for unlimited (1)

busyqth (2566075) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314485)

Just a jump over the 49th parallel (Canada) we have Wind Mobile (major cities only). $40 for pretty everything unlimited, no contract. You guys in the U.S. are getting screwed up the ass.

But then again, you have to live in Canada.

Re:How about $40 for unlimited (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314645)

And we get to get it up the ass! /stephenstucker

Re:How about $40 for unlimited (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314699)

The key phrase here is "major cities only". If you were in the US and you were only going to use your phone in major cities, you wouldn't have signed up for Verizon, which has always had the highest prices in exchange for deep penetration into rural areas. Instead, you would sign up for Cricket, Boost, MetroPCS, or a similar carrier that only has coverage in major cities.

Ma Bell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314357)

$50 for 1GB per month, on a single device, then pay extra to add other devices? TEN years ago, I had a 56k modem (up to 136GB per month) that I could share among any number of devices with some Linksys HomeLink cards (1Mb over phone line) and some powerline phone-jack duplicators. The dial-up service cost $20 from Southwestern Bell, which has since been gobbled up by the AT&T monstrosity (seriously, regulators, remember "Ma Bell"? Break that shit up, and DO NOT APPROVE MERGERS!).

Who gobbled whom? (1)

gstovall (22014) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314683)

Umm...I think you have that backwards.

SWB gobbled some companies and renamed itself SBC. Then SBC gobbled some RBOCs. SBC had a joint venture with BellSouth called Cingular. Cingular gobbled ATT Wireless. Then SBC gobbled ATT and became "the New ATT". Then the New ATT gobbled BellSouth and renamed Cingular to ATT Mobility.

Grandfathered unlimited plans stay. (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314369)

Q: Will Verizon convert me to a new plan, or can I keep my old plan?
A: Verizon won't switch you over to the new plan unless you ask. You can keep your old plan, even if you trade up to a new phone after that date and extend your contract.

Q: What if I have an "unlimited data" plan? Can I keep it?
A: Yes, you can. But —and there's a big "but" here— Verizon will no longer let you move the plan to a new phone after June 28, unless you pay the full, unsubsidized price for it. For most smartphones that will add hundreds of dollars to the price. A subsidized Verizon iPhone 4S costs $200. The price you'll pay if you keep your unlimited plan: $650. (Verizon stopped signing up new customer for unlimited a year ago)

So for me, nothing will change, at least for a while. I'll still have my 30$ a month unlimited plan. This may shift when it comes time to get a new phone, but thats a ways off. In two years who knows what the wireless landscape will look like.

Re:Grandfathered unlimited plans stay. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314707)

What is the deal with these "grandfathered" unlimited plans? If they're keeping them around, it means they still recognize that people will stay with them as long as it's available. And when those disappear, so will their customers. The mixed messages are troubling.

Re:Grandfathered unlimited plans stay. (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314773)

It comes down to the contract. What I signed when I first setup my account granted me unlimited data at a fixed price with no expiration date. So legally they cant force me to change my data plan till it comes time to sign another contract. So long as I never sign another one (meaning that I keep my current phone or pay full price for my next when my contract is up for renewal) I will continue to have unlimited data for the 30$ a month my original contract granted me. In my case, I just renewed my contract, extending my unlimited plan for another two years. So its a non issue till 2014.

yeah T-Mobile! (1)

wierd_w (1375923) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314379)

Unlimited xfer (at throttled speed, mut meh) for 50/mo.
Unlimited xfer (at 4g speed) for 90/mo.

The only carrier in the us that rewards you for owning the damned handset.

Re:yeah T-Mobile! (1)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314571)

I agree! I'm not sure exactly which plans those are that you're listing, but after getting an unlocked phone i'm paying $65 for 500 minutes, unlimited text and "5 gb of data." (Perhaps the plans vary by area? Or is there a surcharge for 4g? I'm only at 3g.)

I am _so_ glad that AT&T didn't manage to buy them out!

Cheaper to rent a video (2)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314413)

At $50/gig its cheaper to rent a video at redbox or netflix than to download and watch the trailer on youtube to see if its worth renting.

The cost superficially appears astounding. However I'm actually using about 10 megs a day on average over the air (non-wifi) according to "data counter widget" and paying $20/month to republic wireless for unlimited service... so I'm paying about $66/gig if I did my math correctly.

Re:Cheaper to rent a video (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314569)

You're going to have to pay that $50 whether you use it or not. So it's cheaper to buy the blu-ray at full price than watch a kitten descend down a slide a couple of times.

Bend over VZW & ATTW customer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314417)

Verizon Wireless and AT&T Wireless just love their customers. I for one am excited about Sprint's LTE service (when available) and pricing....wooo hooo

Ting has the best response (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314447)

"Tucows Inc. (NYSE AMEX:TCX, TSX:TC), a global provider of domain names and other Internet services, today announced that its mobile phone service Ting would unveil a shared data plan on February 2, 2012, four months prior to this announcement."

https://ting.com/blog/ting-to-launch-shared-data-plan-four-months-ago/

More like "Screw Everyone" plan... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314469)

So I get less for more and I can only keep my old plan if I pay the ridiculous unsubsidized prices whenever I decided to upgrade my phones... I think a better name for these plans would be "Screw Everyone".

You would think these companies would have learned you can't do this sort of thing from the Netflix fiasco....

Incentive to get hitched! (1)

thatseattleguy (897282) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314475)

It's pretty obvious the new pricing is a "screw the single user who wasn't using a bazillion bytes of data or talk time" plan. Maybe it's Verizon's way of saying I should get hitched? My mom would like that, for sure.

Or maybe they're abandoning the singles market in dense urban centers to Sprint (about the only place Sprint works well, so it plays to their strengths).

Honestly, I was thinking about switching to Verizon when my AT&T contract ended later this month or when the next iPhone came out. It would have only been about $5 more. Now it will be $25 or more greater. Non-starter for me, and I suspect many others.

Re:Incentive to get hitched! (1)

Delarth799 (1839672) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314679)

This plan is for those with multiple phones. They will still have plans for those with single lines which are not discussed in this article and will be cheaper.

Re:Incentive to get hitched! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314783)

If you're going to shill for Verizon, at least make the attempt provide a link to their site where these mythical "single line" plans exist. Hint: you're wrong, and they don't have any.

Other than the "bread crumbs at best" 300mb data plan for a measly $10 less ($80/mo + taxes + fees), there are no other options. None.

Excellent News! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314583)

I currently pay over $200/mo for my two unlimited smart phones. This will drop my price to only $120/mo for 1gb, and I really don't go over that between the two of them. Anyone know how much it is to up the GB on the plan? I didn't see anything in the article.

make sure you know what's included here... (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314587)

This includes unlimited texts, plus tethering & wireless hotspot, each of which costs extra (unlimited texts is, I know, normally $20/mo by itself). So when you start to compare prices, make sure you're comparing apples to apples.

I'm more interested in when the new individual plans, though. With wifi hotspot, there's no need to have a dedicated plan for anything besides my phone that I'm likely to be using.

Re:make sure you know what's included here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314745)

No, it doesn't include unlimited texting. It does include tethering. However, most people don't pay for tethering, because it's a complete assinine notion that you need to pay extra to have a Wi-Fi capable hardware platform transmit Wi-Fi because the carrier said so.

Holy Crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314591)

US customers are getting ripped off...I mean they take the whole sphincter muscle as well!

Unlimited can be kept if buy new phone full price (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40314605)

I read where it said you can keep the Unlimited plan as long as you don't upgrade your phone, or if you do upgrade your phone you can still keep the unlimited plan as long as you pay full price for the phone.

So how do I switch? (1)

Spiked_Three (626260) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314663)

I have a verizon sold android, and have been wanting to change carriers for a while. Can my current phone be switched, or do I need a new phone? I have not really kept up with this aspect of phone plans. I am grandfathered in on a verizon unlimited plan, of which I use about 10 minutes talk and 1 megabyte data a month on, and pay $100 as it is. So even though $90 would be cheaper and probably fit me, I would just as soon switch to a $50 plan from sprint or someone else, if the phone switching hassle is not too great.

Real plan name (3, Funny)

byteherder (722785) | more than 2 years ago | (#40314803)

Shouldn't they be calling the the 'Screw Everyone' plan instead of 'Share Everything' plan.
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