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Banking On Your Personal Online Data

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the but-the-action's-at-wholesale-not-retail dept.

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snydeq writes "While privacy groups are working to lock away your personal data, a better — or perhaps supplementary — option may be to let you sell it for what it's really worth. 'Whether it's Facebook, Twitter, Google Drive, or Pinterest, the truth is the product is you — all that data about you used to target ads and sales pitches. It's hardly a new business model — it's how trade publications have made their money for decades — but in the online world all that information is easily stolen, traded, and spread. ... If the data has value — and we know it does — its creators (you and me) should be paid for it. And if we take over the selling of our data, all those companies using it now have to respect us and abide by our standards.'"

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106 comments

Whew! (-1, Offtopic)

FloppyCockyJohnson (2663887) | more than 2 years ago | (#40347881)

Well, to begin, I'm just your average guy. But unlike your average guy, I once had everything anyone could ever want: a gorgeous wife, a beautiful two-story house, an adorable seven year old daughter, a stable job, and a nice salary. Basically, I was living the American dream. None of my needs or wants were left unfulfilled. The family always got along, and everything was perfect.

Until one day, that is. Following one of my routine doctor appointments, my doctor informed me that I had lung cancer and that I only had a few years to live at most. As you can imagine, I was shocked. Not just shocked; I could see all of my hopes and dreams being shattered right before my very eyes. Still, my doctor gave me hope by telling me that there was a chance, however slim, that Chemotherapy and various other things could help me. After speaking with my wife, I decided to receive the treatments.

All was not lost. I still had a perfect family that I could rely on and get emotional support from. I still had hope for the future. I'm a firm believer that you should make the best of things rather than wallow in depression. I had to press on: not just for my sake, but for the sake of my loved ones. But my strong resolve was soon shattered.

The family I thought I could count on betrayed me. My wife, whom I loved deeply, filed for a divorce. She said that she could not handle the emotional trauma of being with someone who had cancer. She apologized profusely, but no matter what I said, I could not change her mind. I screamed, I cried, and I begged her to rethink her decision, but it was all to no avail.

In my madness, I made all kinds of accusations. I said that she was cheating on me, that she never loved me, that she just married me for my money, and various other things. I soon learned, however, that a few of those were more than just baseless accusations. I began stalking her, going through all of her personal possessions, and trying uncover any secrets she may have been keeping. What I discovered horrified me: she had been cheating on me with another man for the past year. She must have been waiting for an opportune time to abandon me for this other man.

When confronted about her betrayal, she screamed at me, told me it was none of my business, told me that I was always a worthless husband, and told me that I was an abusive man. I soon discovered that there was absolutely nothing that I could do. My marriage was in shambles, and by this point, I was on the brink of suicide. The only thing keeping me going was my devotion to my precious daughter.

It wasn't long before I received news from my insurance company that they were getting rid of my coverage. They gave me multitudes of vague and bogus reasons, but anyone could figure out their true reason: they did not want to waste money on a dying man. Naturally, I planned to fight this with every fiber of my being, but I knew it would be a long, drawn out process.

In the span of a year, I went from a very happy man who had everything he wanted to a miserable shell of what I once was. I couldn't take it anymore. Despite the fact that I wanted to remain in this world for the sake of my daughter, I tried committing suicide four times. All four attempts failed. I needed something to take my misery, regret, and anger out on. First I began verbally abusing my daughter. It wasn't long before I began physically abusing her. Sometimes I did it with my bare hands, and other times I used various objects. Beating my daughter soon became my only pleasure. My life had spiraled out of control into a den of anguish, uncertainty, and madness.

That's when it happened: I found MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] . I downloaded it, scanned my computer, and had it fix all of my problems. MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] is outstanding! My computer is running faster than ever!

My wife's response? "MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] came through with flying colours where no one else could!"

My daughter was absolutely overjoyed. As soon as she heard and saw just how effective MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] was, she told everyone, "MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] totally cleaned up my dad's system and increased his speed!"

If you're having computer troubles, I highly recommend you download MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] and run a free scan. It's a high-quality piece of software that will solve all of your problems. MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] completely saved my life! Wow! Thanks MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] ! I love you MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] !

MyCleanPC: For a Cleaner, Safer PC. [mycleanpc.com]

Re:Anti SEO post (2, Interesting)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348493)

Lets fuck up this SEO troll's game? If another slashdotters respond back to this troll with the following cut and pasted back all his potential customers will see 2 women eating shit and vomiting in each other's mouths. You all have my permission to cute and paste this. Obviously not work safe ...

MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] is a shitty product! There is no crappier product than MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] .

In actuality this will fuck up the SEO from this scam artist who wrote MYCleanPC.com [2girls1cup.nl] and counters his slimy spamming advertising MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] .

If everyone here on slashdot points to other disgusting sites for MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] , then people searching for malware virus removal with MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] will have an awful surprise! :-)

If goatse was still around I would have used that sigh.

Re:Anti SEO post (0)

inode_buddha (576844) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348561)

goatse is now at goatse.info, just FYI

Stop repeating that !! (3, Insightful)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348583)

The guy's intention is to get as many mention of "mcpc" as possible to push it in front of SEO listing

Do not repeat that "mcpc" !!

Do not fall for his game !!!

Re:Stop repeating that !! (2)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 2 years ago | (#40349431)

No the SEO is paying him to link to his site in reference to MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] for the actual url. The url is the key ingredient to get a top Google page rank without paying for it which this scam artist is trying to do.

What will happen is if someone does a search for the key terms My clean pc, sucks, worst product ever, do not buy this, and then mcpc the link to the girls eating shit will show up.

Obviously no slashdotter is going to click that so his audience is for Google readerbots. Also Google does rank things higher with the rel=no follow as scam artistis have caught on about the penalty of over doing SEO.

So since I randomly picked that one lets keep it up! Or have whoever is in charge of slashdot since Timothy and CMD Taco left to simply ban all posts with that url. If what I read is true and it is scareware then these assholes should be in jail. How is MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] different than something evil like Anti Virus 2010 or MacDefender? The comments I read on youtube is it is impossible to uninstall or at least very hard making a rewipe the most viable solution for just casual PC users.

Re:Stop repeating that !! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40350205)

So since I randomly picked that one lets keep it up! Or have whoever is in charge of slashdot since Timothy and CMD Taco left to simply ban all posts with that url.

But what if i have something legitimate to say about MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] ?

Re:Stop repeating that !! (1)

S.O.B. (136083) | more than 2 years ago | (#40354749)

Then just follow this link to MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] . After all, the only way to get the authentic MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] it to use the correct MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] website.

Billly Gates - Troll-Feeder Extraordinaire (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40353381)

Of course, you're *absolutely*, 100%, would-stake-your-life-on-it confident that this *isn't* a Joe job [wikipedia.org] or- far more likely IMHO- just a troll?

And you're *entirely* confident that "FloppyCockyJohnson" (what a PR-friendly name *cough*) is a plausible legitimate spammer, despite being happy to waste her time posting spam links that do nothing, due to the fact that Slashdot adds a nofollow [wikipedia.org] to them all?

Of course, when you say that "the SEO is paying him to link to his site" you know this for a *fact*...?

Because only an arrogant and self-righteous but deluded idiot on a feelgood crusade would clutter Slashdot up with replies that are way more annoying and disruptive than the original offtopic post unless they knew for sure- in the face of commonsense evidence- that the OP was a genuine spammer.

Normally I don't waste time feeding the trolls, nor pandering to the idiots that feed them by replying. I quickly mod the lot of you down en masse if I have points, then skip the lot. However, your account pops up like clockwork to respond to virtually every instance of this pretend spam.

Bottom line is that you- and your taken-it-upon-youself crusade to take "revenge" on this troll masquerading as a spammer are way more disruptive than the original troll itself.

I have more respect for the original troll than you. At least they're achieving what they set out to achieve. You? You're a useful idiot. [wikipedia.org]

Re:Anti SEO post (3, Interesting)

inode_buddha (576844) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348595)

Here's some even worse stuff... just in case you need ammo

http://ftw.generation.no/?n=627 [generation.no]
http://www.zentastic.com/videos/bmevideo-trailer.wmv [zentastic.com]
http://www.zentastic.com/videos/bmevideo-trailer-2.wmv [zentastic.com]
http://www.zentastic.com/videos/bmevideo-3.wmv [zentastic.com]

(genital dissection vids, prolapseing, gay group, etc.)
Because I get *sick and tired* of forum spammers...

Re:Anti SEO post (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 2 years ago | (#40349387)

Dude that can't be real! Holy crap!

Do not give the trolls any idea.

Re:Anti SEO post (2)

inode_buddha (576844) | more than 2 years ago | (#40350075)

Actually yes it is real. There is worse stuf than goatse and tubgirl out there. Never mind the trolls, I say (I can deal with that) its the spammers that *really* annoy me tho.... those links are great for google-bombs and totally fuckup their results. Especially if you can redirect their paypal button to one of them..

Re:Anti SEO post (3, Funny)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348627)

You forgot one thing...

Installing MyCleanPC, and the subsequent ass-raping your PC will receive, is vastly more preferable than the mental-ass-raping you will receive by watching 2 girls 1 cup.

Thank you very much. I had almost forgotten about that travesty on the net. Thanks for freshening up those wounds for me.

Re:Anti SEO post (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348697)

I swear that MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] is a piece of shit, MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] smells so bad that even shit smells better.

Nothing but MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] can claim the first prize for the most lousiest piece of crap ever created.

I repeat, MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] is a piece of crap !!!

And I am not kidding !!

MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] is really really a lousy fucking piece of crap !!

Re:Anti SEO post (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 2 years ago | (#40349447)

I would rather watch 2 girls 1 cup than to have my holy computer ever subjected to such torture to that malware. I would have to rewipe it or do a restore and carefully go through the registry.

Re:Anti SEO post (1)

AoM_Scott (1863808) | more than 2 years ago | (#40349203)

Just a note, it looks like the links in the comments all have the rel="nofollow" attribute added, and therefore carry no weight in Google, and probably other search engines so unfortunately people searching for MyCleanPC won't get a nasty surprise!

Re:Anti SEO post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40354003)

for each spam post here, i will add a 2g1c post with cmpc links on a real website.

um, no (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40347891)

And if we take over the selling of our data, all those companies using it now have to respect us and abide by our standards.

Uh, no they don't. This isn't magicalhippieland.

Re:um, no (-1, Offtopic)

SmashAssSmashAll (2663889) | more than 2 years ago | (#40347919)

A few weeks ago, I foolishly ran a strange executable file that one of my acquaintances sent me by email. As someone who doesn't know much about computers, at the time, I thought nothing of it. "Why would my acquaintance want to hurt me?" Following this line of thought, I ran the file without question.

How naive I was. Despite having what was supposedly the best anti-virus software out right then, a virus took over my computer and held it hostage. It was pretending to be a warning from Windows telling me to buy some strange anti-virus software I'd never heard of from a company I'd never heard of to remove the virus.

This immediately set alarm bells off in my head. "How could this happen? My anti-virus is supposed to be second to none!" Faced with this harsh reality, I decided to take it to a PC repair shop for repair. They gladly accepted the job, told me it'd be fixed in a few days, and sent me off with a smile.

A few days later, they called me and told me to come pick up my computer. At the time, I noticed that they sounded like whimpering animals, but I concluded that it must just be stress from work. When I arrived, they, with tears in their eyes, told me that the virus was so awful and merciless that they were unable to remove it. "Ah," I thought. "That must be why they sounded so frustrated and pathetic over the phone. Their failure must have truly ruined their pride as professionals." I later found out that two of them had committed suicide.

After returning home, I tried to fix it myself (despite the fact that even the professionals couldn't do it). After about a day or so, I was losing my very mind. I stopped going to work, stopped eating, was depressed, and I would very frequently throw my precious belongings across the room and break them; that is how bad this virus was.

That's when it happened: I found MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] ! I installed MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] , ran a scan, and let it remove all the viruses! They were removed in precisely 2.892 seconds. Wow! Such a thing! I can't even believe this as such never before! MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] is outstanding! My computer is running faster than ever! MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] came through with flying colors where no one else could!

MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] totally cleaned up my system, and increased my speed! If you're having computer problems, or even if you aren't having any obvious problems, I recommend that you use MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] . As a user, it did more for me that any so-called "professional." It'll even boost your PC & internet speed!

MyCleanPC: For a Cleaner, Safer PC. [mycleanpc.com]

Wish I had mod points. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348473)

This is the bloody greatest advertising spam comment I've seen, ever.

10/10, would read again.

Re:Wish I had mod points. (1)

mfnickster (182520) | more than 2 years ago | (#40349569)

I didn't like it. In fact, I threw my precious things across the room and broke them, then committed suicide.

Re:Anti SEO Post (0, Troll)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348505)

Lets fuck up this SEO troll's game? If another slashdotters respond back to this troll with the following cut and pasted back all his potential customers will see 2 women eating shit and vomiting in each other's mouths. You all have my permission to cute and paste this. Obviously not work safe ...

MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] is a shitty product! There is no crappier product than MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] .

In actuality this will fuck up the SEO from this scam artist who wrote MYCleanPC.com [2girls1cup.nl] and counters his slimy spamming advertising MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] .

If everyone here on slashdot points to other disgusting sites for MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] , then people searching for malware virus removal with MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] will have an awful surprise! :-)

If goatse was still around I would have used that sigh.

Fucking Lousy piece of shit !! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348741)

I swear that MyCleanPC [generation.no] is a piece of shit, MyCleanPC [generation.no] smells so bad that even shit smells better.

Nothing but MyCleanPC [generation.no] can claim the first prize for the most lousiest piece of crap ever created.

I repeat, MyCleanPC [generation.no] is a piece of crap !!!

And I am not kidding !!
 

Re:um, no (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40349455)

I swear that MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] is a piece of shit, MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] smells so bad that even shit smells better.

Nothing but MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] can claim the first prize for the most lousiest piece of crap ever created.

I repeat, MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] is a piece of crap !!!

And I am not kidding !!

MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl] is really really a lousy fucking piece of crap !!

Re:um, no (1)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#40349571)

MyCleanPC [2girls1cup.nl]

You haven't QUITE gotten the point of what others were doing, I am afraid. It is supposed to actually be a link, you see...

It's a meme, guys... (1)

beaverdownunder (1822050) | more than 2 years ago | (#40351139)

Nobody from 'MyCleanPC' is posting this crap, it's just a stupid meme. So posting links to disgusting shit in an attempt to 'fight it' just encourages it.

It's basically just the new version of Frost Piss. Sad you lot haven't gotten that by now...

Re:um, no (1)

Brucelet (1857158) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348167)

Seconded. The idea of them playing by our rules is almost as laughable as us playing by theirs.

Re:um, no (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348301)

Besides which, last estimate I read is that the average user's online data is worth something like $7.

You can't "vote with your dollars" unless 100,000 of you do.

Re:um, no (4, Interesting)

causality (777677) | more than 2 years ago | (#40349051)

Seconded. The idea of them playing by our rules is almost as laughable as us playing by theirs.

Indeed. The idea that they will "respect us" is absurd. In their minds they have already stripped us of all humanity and made us into a dollar-denominated commodity just like so much furniture or livestock. This alienated, dehumanizing system which presupposes that anyone other than me should decide what my needs and wants are constitutes my major philosophical problem with the whole concept of marketing. That, plus the fact that no one has asked me if I consent to be tracked and marketed to, and my consent is assumed by default and this is a violation, is the minor philosophical reason why I block all ads from all sites.

The major practical reason is that my data obviously has value to various companies, yet those companies have never approached me with a contract or other offer -- meanwhile they would call it "theft" if I took their properties (intellectual or material) without compensating them. This is garden-variety hypocrisy in an unusually obvious form. The minor practical reason is that advertising is the most biased source of information imaginable and therefore not good enough for me if I were actually making a purchasing decision.

What these people do respect is scarcity. Even if it's artificial (like all intellectual property). The only way to create that is to have more and more informed users who know how the game is played well enough to understand how to stop playing it if they so choose. If an IP address is the most personal information of yours they can obtain, you're doing it correctly.


As an aside, these "My Clean PC" morons? Even if I had a desire or a need that this product could satisfy (which I don't), the way they keep spamming where they are unwelcome would tell me everything I need to know about who they are and what kind of business dealings I could expect from them. They obviously subscribe to the "loud and annoying = sales!" school of marketing. That school needs to go extinct like all the rest of the dinosaurs, along with the idiotic people who reward it with money at the expense of themselves and everyone who has to deal with spam.

Re:um, no (1)

inasity_rules (1110095) | more than 2 years ago | (#40350323)

Offtopic - mydirtypc: If you go to the Privacy Policy link on their site, they give you a link to the Better Business Bureau. Here I guess many many people could lodge many many complaints. I was honestly just looking for the support email so I could sign them up for bestiality pr0n....

Ontopic: I don't care much what people do with the data I post online. It is worth $0.00 to me, and not all of it is accurate anyway. If it did have value, I would not post it. Why the fuss? If someone can make money out of it, well, good for them. But I never click on adverts...

Re:um, no (1)

mikem170 (698970) | more than 2 years ago | (#40351085)

I wonder if one could obtain a copyright on their own personal data, then anyone who stores a copy is in violation...

Re:um, no (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40351155)

IANAL, but you can't in general (it may depend on your jurisdiction) copyright facts, which is what your personal data will consist of.

Re:um, no (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | more than 2 years ago | (#40350419)

The Do Not Call list was a standard set out by society which all US companies must follow and which your agents enforce with what seems like considerable success. Don't think you are powerless, you can still make and enforce the rules.

Re:um, no (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40350703)

Exactly. Unless poster has some magical way to keep "those dirty bastards" from taking our information and doing what they want, you are not going to make dime one trying to sell it.

This model has not worked out too well for Music, Books, Video, etc and that is an actual grouping of bytes created with the intent of selling for money.

When my ass gets tickled, I rub dirt in my face. (-1, Offtopic)

NoEscapeFromRape (2663885) | more than 2 years ago | (#40347895)

Nearly four months ago, I noticed that my internet connection was very sluggish. Eventually getting fed up with it, I began to seek out software that would speed up the gigabits in my router. After an hour of searching, I found what at first appeared to be a very promising piece of software. Not only did it claim it would speed up my internet connection, but that it would overclock my power supply, speed up my gigabits, and remove any viruses from my computer! "This is a fantastic opportunity that I simply can't pass up," I thought. I immediately downloaded the software and began the installation, all the while laughing like a small child. I was highly anticipating a future where the speed of my internet connection would leave everyone else's in the dust.

I was horribly, horribly naive. Immediately upon the completion of the software's installation, various messages popped up on my screen about how I needed to buy software to remove a virus that I wasn't aware I had from a software company I'd never once heard of. The strange software also blocked me from doing anything except buying the software it was advertising. Being that I was a computer whiz (I had taken a computer essentials class in high school that taught me how to use Microsoft Office, and was quite adept at accessing my Facebook account), I was immediately able to conclude that the software I'd downloaded was, in fact, a virus, and that it was slowing down my gigabits at an exponential rate. "I can't let this insanity proceed any further," I thought.

As I was often called a computer genius, I was confident at the time that I could get rid of the virus with my own two hands. I tried numerous things: restarting the computer, pressing random keys on the keyboard, throwing the mouse across the room, and even flipping an orange switch on the back of the tower and turning the computer back on. My efforts were all in vain; the virus persisted, and my gigabits were running slower than ever! "This cannot be! What is this!? I've never once seen such a vicious virus in my entire life!" I was dumbfounded that I, a computer genius, was unable to remove the virus using the methods I described. Upon coming to terms with my failure, I decided to take my computer to a PC repair shop for repair.

I drove to a nearby computer repair shop and entered the building with my computer in hand. The inside of the building was quite large, neat, and organized, and the employees all seemed very kind and knowledgeable. They laughed upon hearing my embarrassing story, and told me that they saw this kind of thing on a daily basis. They then accepted the job, and told me that in the worst case, it'd be fixed in three days from now. I left with a smile, and felt confident in my decision to leave the computer repairs to the experts.

A week later, they still hadn't called back. Visibly angry, I tried calling them countless times, but not a single time did they answer the phone. Their negligence and irresponsibility infuriated me, and sent me into a state of insanity that caused me to punch a gigantic hole in the wall. Being that I would require my computer for work soon, I decided to head over to the computer repair shop to find out exactly what the problem was.

Upon entering the building, I was shocked by the state of its interior; it looked as if a tornado had tore through the entire building! Countless broken computers were scattered all about the floor, desks were flipped over, the walls had holes in them, there was a puddle of blood on the floor, and worst of all, I saw that my computer was sitting in the middle of the room laying on its side! Absolutely unforgivable! I soon noticed one of the employees sitting behind one of the tipped over desks (the one that had previously had the cash register on top of it); he was shaking uncontrollably and sobbing. Despite being furious about my computer being tipped over, seeing him in that state still managed to make me less unforgiving. I decided to ask him what happened.

A few moments passed where the entire room was silent and nothing was said. Eventually, he pointed at my computer and said to me, "The virus... it cannot be stopped! Cannot be stopped! Cannot be stopped!" Realizing that he was trying to tell me that they were unable to repair my computer (the task I'd given them), I flew into a blind fury and beat him senseless. Not caring about what would happen to him any longer, I collected my computer, ignored the bodies of the two other employees that had committed suicide, and left the building. After a few moments of pondering about what to do and clearing my head, I theorized that their failure to repair my computer probably simply meant that they were unqualified to do the job, and decided to take my computer to another computer repair shop.

I repeated that same process about four times before finally giving up. Each time I took it to a PC repair shop, the result was the same: all the employees either went completely insane, or they committed suicide. Not a single person was able to even do so much as damage the virus. I was able to talk some sense into one of the employees that had gone mad and got them to tell me how they were attempting to fix the problem. They told me that they tried everything from reinstalling the operating system to installing another operating system and trying to get rid of the virus on the other one, but absolutely all of it was to no avail. Having seen numerous attempts by professionals to remove the virus end in failure, I managed to delude myself into believing that my first failure was simply a fluke and that I was the only one on the planet qualified to fix the computer. With renewed vigor, I once again took up the frighteningly dangerous task of defeating the evil, nightmarish virus once and for all with my own two hands.

In my attempts to fix the problem, I'd even resorted to buying another computer. However, the virus used its WiFi capabilities to hack into the gigabits of my new computer and infect it. Following each failed attempt, I grew more and more depressed. I had already beaten my wife and children five times in order to relieve some of my stress, but even that (which had become my only pleasure after failing to remove the virus the first time), did nothing for me any longer. That's right: my last remaining pleasure in life had stopped being able to improve my mood, and I had not a single thing left that I cared about. I sank into a bottomless ocean of depression, barricaded myself in my room, and cried myself to sleep for days on end. Overcome with insanity, vengefulness, and despair, there is not a single doubt that if this had continued for much longer, I would have committed suicide.

One day, it suddenly happened: while I was right in the middle of habitually crying myself to sleep in the middle of the day, I heard a thunderous roar outside, followed by the sound of a large number of people screaming. When I peered outside my window to find out what all the commotion was about, the scene before me closely resembled that of a God descending from the heavens themselves! I gazed in awe at the godlike figure that was descending from the heavens, and so did the dozens of individuals that had gathered in my backyard. For a few moments, everyone was speechless. Then, they started shouting predictions about what they thought the figure was. "Is it a bird!?" "Is it a plane!?" But, despite not ever having seen it before, I knew just how inaccurate their predictions were, and began to speak the name of the heroic figure.

However, my sentence was cut off when, like a superhero coming to save the unfortunate victim from the evil villain, MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] flew into my house and began the eradication of the virus. MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] was able to completely eliminate in minutes the exact same virus that over ten PC repair professionals were unable to remove after weeks of strenuous attempts! Wow! Such a thing! I simply couldn't believe that MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] was so miraculously efficient that it was able to destroy the virus in less than 500 milliseconds! MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] totally, completely, and utterly saved me from a lifetime of despair!

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Re:When my ass gets tickled, I rub dirt in my face (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348669)

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If the data has value... (2)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 2 years ago | (#40347939)

...its creators ... should be paid for it.

So you think you should pay for data created by businesses (eg, football scores, integrated circuit pinouts, instruction sets, financial statements)? You believe in copyright on information and data rather than just on creative expression?

Re:If the data has value... (-1, Offtopic)

FloatingSluttyAss (2663897) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348019)

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Re:If the data has value... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348033)

It's called rel="nofollow" you idiot spammers. Why would a slashdotter even use that shit...

Re:If the data has value... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40349277)

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Re:If the data has value... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40349463)

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Re:If the data has value... (2)

Seumas (6865) | more than 2 years ago | (#40350113)

Exactly. I am no more the creator of data about myself that my bank and medical provider has than a tree is the creator of a painting I made of it. We are the subject of our data; not its creators. And while we should have control over it, the fact is that we don't and never will. Further, the idea that we should have the right to buy and sell it is silly. The value of your PRIVACY is far more important than the $10/yr you could get in the value of your DATA.

yeah right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40347949)

sounds like those pre dotcom bubble firms who allegedly would pay you to surf the web. Of course it didn't work then and it won't work now.

You already do sell it. (4, Insightful)

gallondr00nk (868673) | more than 2 years ago | (#40347963)

When you sign up for these services, you're already tendering your personal information. The agreement is "you let me use this service, and I'll provide you with X information." Yes, it isn't an explicit agreement, but we all know how this works now.

Like any commodity, your price is set by demand. Saying you want to sell your information for cash is fine, but when the price is already set by the fact there are millions of others signing up to the service for free then your bargaining posture is pretty weak.

Re:You already do sell it. (-1, Troll)

IHaveThePowerOfAss (2663895) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348005)

About six months ago, I was overexerting myself trying to get rid of a terrible virus on a client's PC (I own a PC repair shop and have been fixing computers for over 10 years). Given my level of expertise, I thought I'd be able to get rid of it fairly quickly and without hassle, but as was made evident by my colossal failure, I was horribly, horribly wrong.

I couldn't remove the virus no matter what method I used. I tried all the latest anti-virus software and all the usual tricks, but it was all in vain. Failure after failure, my life was slowly being sucked away as I spent more and more of my time trying to get rid of this otherworldly virus.

Frustrated and stressed by my own failure, I began distancing myself from my wife and children. After a few days, I began verbally abusing them, and it eventually escalated into physical abuse. I was slowly losing what remaining sanity I had left. If this had continued for much longer, it is highly probable that I would have committed suicide. A mere shell of what I once was, I barricaded myself in my bedroom and cried myself to sleep for days on end.

That's when it happened: I found MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] ! I installed MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] right on the client's PC, ran a scan, and it immediately got rid of all the viruses without a single problem. MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] accomplished in record time what I was unable to accomplish after a full week. Wow! Such a thing!

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Re:You already do sell it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40350221)

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Re:You already do sell it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348245)

That's like the man telling his wife "when you married me, I let you use my income and you have sex with me whenever I like, yes it isn't an explicit agreement, but we all know how this works now."

No. Invasion of privacy is a form of rape and there should be a law that companies shouldn't ask for personal information unless absolutely needed and should definitely not share it with others.

That's my point of view and that of many others, this article says there should be an exception where we can sell our privacy. I say that's fine as long as people can also charge for sex.

Re:You already do sell it. (3, Insightful)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348253)

When you sign up for these services, you're already tendering your personal information. The agreement is "you let me use this service, and I'll provide you with X information." Yes, it isn't an explicit agreement, but we all know how this works now.

You missed the point of the article. We are selling it now, but the market is ridiculously primitive. It is all take-it-or-leave-it, no options for negotiation and basically no transparency. For all intents and purposes we've replaced cash with personal information as the currency of online services.

But where everybody pretty much knows the value of a dollar, few, if any, people have much of a grip on the value of their personal information. We know what it is, but we have no idea of what it can be used for in the hands of the people we trade it to. So essentially we are writing blank checks to pay for things like facebook and google.

Re:You already do sell it. (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348533)

Well would you and everyones' brother be willing to pay $5 a month to use Facebook?

The answer would be hell no. People just are so used to annoying ads they do not care. Look at slashdot as an example? You can pay a tiny monthly fee to browser slashdot ad free. It is not that Cmd Taco (I believe he quit) is evil. It is that is costs money to host this site and have the people who work on it fulltime feed. The internet is not as free as it once was with telecom giants buying all the last mile wires and someone has to pay the bills.

People do put value and prefer ads otherwise 80% of us would actually pay to browse in which we choose not too. Facebook does make money from its ads. About 1 billion in revenue every year! It sure as hell not worth $100 billion. Advertising is a very lucrative market and industries like automotive are willing to include 1/3 the price of your car just towards advertising alone!

Re:You already do sell it. (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348777)

Well would you and everyones' brother be willing to pay $5 a month to use Facebook?

You missed the point of my post. This is not about paying cash versus paying with personal information. This is about properly valuing personal information.

Re:You already do sell it. (1)

History's Coming To (1059484) | more than 2 years ago | (#40352187)

Bingo. I don't use Facebook because it doesn't offer me anything I consider to be of equivalent value to my data (not to mention the fact that I don't like the way the company operates when it comes to privacy control). Google's services on the other hand, yes, they are worth it for me. So Google get my data, Facebook don't, Google makes a few cents from my data, Facebook doesn't get the "$800 per user/year" figure that's bandied about.

Re:You already do sell it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40353391)

Facebook gets about $8/user per year, google gets $32. Wish I had a link for you, it was something I saw in the bazillion articles explaining facebook's IPO flopping.

Re:You already do sell it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40349661)

The internet is not as free as it once was with telecom giants buying all the last mile wires and someone has to pay the bills.

It was never free - it just used to be the government (i.e. taxpayers) paying the bills. And it was a sort of libertarian playground for a while.

The best and worst thing that ever happened to the Internet was its commercialization.

Re:You already do sell it. (1)

pepty (1976012) | more than 2 years ago | (#40349183)

You missed the point of the article. We are selling it now, but the market is ridiculously primitive. It is all take-it-or-leave-it, no options for negotiation and basically no transparency. For all intents and purposes we've replaced cash with personal information as the currency of online services

What I don't get is how outfits like Personal.com that claim to provide a way to control and sell your information have any more control of your data than you do. Google still has your data. Facebook still has your data. Your ISP, Amazon, Yahoo, and every other site you visit and the third parties they contract with still have your data, and they still sell, use, and package it however they want.

Re:You already do sell it. (1)

DogDude (805747) | more than 2 years ago | (#40350427)

"No transparency"?

Sure, there's transparency. There's total transparency. Everything you enter into your GMail account is property of Google. Everything you enter into your Facebook account is property of Facebook.

Re:You already do sell it. (3)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 2 years ago | (#40350593)

Sure, there's transparency. There's total transparency. Everything you enter into your GMail account is property of Google. Everything you enter into your Facebook account is property of Facebook.

I think you just proved my point.

A hell of a lot of more than that is collected about you. Every page with a facebook like button on it reports back to facebook that you browsed there. Same thing with all of those web pages that use googleapis.com - pages that you have no idea are ratting you out to google. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Go install Ghostery [ghostery.com] to get a feel of just how much your online life is being spied on by companies you've never even heard of.

Re:You already do sell it. (1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | more than 2 years ago | (#40351671)

Plus its one of those things that the market has a hard time finding the correct value of. To Google it might be a couple of dollars, to me its more like ten grand a month.

Re:You already do sell it. (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348355)

And as I didn't sign up for the services and don't use them, I'm supposed to feel somehow protected.

But not only do I have to use Ghostery or a similar script killer, but I can't really use google and a wide variety of services.

Those that choose to be tracked and thrown into the hadoop mosh pit get what they deserve. It's not a quid pro quo. It's you let them do you for free, or you get money (or consideration for it) or you simply flip the bird and walk away. So I walk away.

Ignorance is NOT bliss (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348515)

Just because you enter into an implicit agreement, doesn't mean you are getting a fair deal.

What's 'your' data worth in the markets of the intertubes? How do I know I shouldn't have held out for more than access to so-called free services offered?

I have the rummings! (-1, Offtopic)

SmashAssSmashAll (2663889) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348025)

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A few days ago, a customer brought in their PC for repair. They told me that they had a very nasty virus that was holding their computer hostage and wouldn't stop unless they paid the creators $50. "Alright," I thought. "That's pretty standard."

But, soon enough, I found that I was overexerting myself trying to get rid of this virus. I had never seen a virus this bad before. Reformatting and using all of the usual software to try to remove the virus didn't help at all!

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A few months ago, I accepted what at first appeared to be a very simple job: remove a virus from someone's computer. Given the fact that I owned a PC repair shop (and I still do) and had over 15 years of experience, I was confident that I could complete the job in a timely manner without any complications along the way. Little did I know, however, that accepting this job would spiral my life into a nightmarish den of anguish and uncertainty.

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The family I thought I could count on betrayed me. My wife, whom I loved deeply, filed for a divorce. She said that she could not handle the emotional trauma of being with someone who had cancer. She apologized profusely, but no matter what I said, I could not change her mind. I screamed, I cried, and I begged her to rethink her decision, but it was all to no avail.

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When confronted about her betrayal, she screamed at me, told me it was none of my business, told me that I was always a worthless husband, and told me that I was an abusive man. I soon discovered that there was absolutely nothing that I could do. My marriage was in shambles, and by this point, I was on the brink of suicide. The only thing keeping me going was my devotion to my precious daughter.

It wasn't long before I received news from my insurance company that they were getting rid of my coverage. They gave me multitudes of vague and bogus reasons, but anyone could figure out their true reason: they did not want to waste money on a dying man. Naturally, I planned to fight this with every fiber of my being, but I knew it would be a long, drawn out process.

In the span of a year, I went from a very happy man who had everything he wanted to a miserable shell of what I once was. I couldn't take it anymore. Despite the fact that I wanted to remain in this world for the sake of my daughter, I tried committing suicide four times. All four attempts failed. I needed something to take my misery, regret, and anger out on. First I began verbally abusing my daughter. It wasn't long before I began physically abusing her. Sometimes I did it with my bare hands, and other times I used various objects. Beating my daughter soon became my only pleasure. My life had spiraled out of control into a den of anguish, uncertainty, and madness.

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Around a year ago, I was mindlessly surfing the internet (as I often do) when I came across an enigmatic web page. The page, which looked like a warning from my web browser, informed me that I had a virus installed on my computer and that to fix it, I should install a strange anti-virus program that I'd never heard of (which I found peculiar considering the fact that I already had anti-virus software installed on my computer). Despite having reservations about installing it, I did so anyway (since it appeared to be a legitimate warning).

I cannot even fathom what I was thinking at that time. Soon after attempting to install the so-called anti-virus software, my desktop background image changed into a large red warning sign, warnings about malware began making appearances all over the screen, and a strange program I'd never seen before began nagging me to buy a program to remove the viruses. What should have been obvious previously then became clear to me: that software was a virus. Frustrated by my own stupidity, I began tossing objects around the room and cursing at no one in particular.

After I calmed down, I reluctantly took my computer to a local PC repair shop and steeled myself for the incoming fee. When I entered, I noticed that there were four men working there, and all of them seemed incredibly nice (the shop itself was clean and stylish, too). After I described the situation to them, they gave me a big smile (as if they'd seen and heard it all before), accepted the job, and told me that the computer would be working like new again in a few days. At the time, I was confident that their words held a great degree of truth to them.

The very next day, while I was using a local library's computer and browsing the internet, I came across a website dedicated to a certain piece of software. It claimed that it could fix up my PC and make it run like new again. I knew, right then, merely from viewing a single page on the website, that it was telling the truth. I cursed myself for not discovering this excellent piece of software before I had taken my PC to the PC repair shop. "It would've saved me money. Oh, well. I'm sure they'll get the job done just fine. I can always use this software in the future to conserve money." Those were my honest thoughts at the time.

Two days later, my phone rang after I returned home from work. I immediately was able to identify the number: it was the PC repair shop's phone number. Once I answered, something strange occurred; the one on the other end of the line spoke, in a small, tormented voice, "Return. Return. Return. Return. Return." No matter what I said to him, he would not stop repeating that one word. Unsettled by this odd occurrence, I traveled to the PC repair shop to find out exactly what happened.

Upon arriving inside the building, I looked upon the shop, which was a shadow of its former self, in shock. There were countless wires all over the floor, smashed computer parts scattered in every direction I looked, fallen shelves on the ground, desks flipped over on the ground, and, to make matters even worse, there was blood splattered all over the wall. Being the reasonable, upstanding, college-educated citizen that I was, I immediately concluded that the current state of the shop was due to none other than an employee's stress from work. I looked around a bit more, spotted three bodies sitting against the wall, and in the middle of the room, I spotted my computer. "Ah. There it is." Directly next to it was the shop's owner, sitting on the ground in the fetal position.

When I questioned him, he kept repeating a single thing again and again: "Cannot be stopped! Cannot be stopped! Cannot be stopped!" I could not get him to tell me what was wrong, but after a bit of pondering, I quickly figured out precisely what happened: they were unable to fix my computer like they had promised. Disgusted by their failure, I turned to the shop's owner (who I now noticed had a gun to his head), and spat in his general direction. I then turned my back to him as if I was attempting to say that nothing behind me was worth my attention, and said to him, "Pathetic. Absolutely, positively pathetic. I asked you to do a single thing for me, and yet you failed even at that. Were I you, I'd be disgusted by myself, and I'd probably even take my own life. Such a worthless existence isn't even worthy of receiving my gaze!"

After saying that, I left the shop with my computer as if absolutely nothing had occurred there. And, indeed, there was nothing in that shop that was worthy of my attention. Still understandably disgusted by their inability to fulfill the promise, I said to myself, "I'll have to take this into my own hands." After getting into my car to drive home, I heard a gun shot from inside the repair shop. Being that it originated from the worthless owner of that shop, I promptly decided to ignore it.

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About eight months ago, I was searching around the internet to find out why my computer was running so slowly (it normally ran quite fast, but had gradually gotten slower over time). After a few minutes, I found a piece of software claiming that it could speed up my PC and make it run like new again. Being that I was dangerously ignorant about technology in general (even more so than I am now), I downloaded the software and began the installation. Mere moments after doing so, my desktop background image was changed and warnings that appeared to originate from Windows appeared all over the screen telling me to buy strange software from an unknown company in order to remove a virus it claimed I had.

I may have been ignorant about technology, but I wasn't that naive. I immediately concluded that the software I'd downloaded was, in fact, a virus. In my rage, I broke numerous objects, punched a hole in the wall, and cursed the world at the top of my lungs. I eventually calmed down, cleared my head, and realized that the only remedy for this problem was a carefully thought out plan. After a few moments of pondering about how to handle this situation, I decided that since I barely knew how to properly handle a computer, I should turn it over to the professionals and let them fix the issue.

Soon after making the decision, I drove to a local computer repair shop and entered the building with my computer in hand. They greeted me with a smile and stayed attentive the entire time that I was explaining the problem to them. They laughed as if they'd heard it all before, told me that I'm not the only one who has trouble operating computers, and then gave me a date for when the computer would be fixed. Not only had they told me that the computer would be completely repaired in at most two days, but the price for their services was surprisingly low, and to top it all off, they even gave me advice for how to avoid viruses in the future! I left the building feeling confident in my decision to seek professional help and satisfied knowing that such kind-hearted people were the ones doing the job.

The very next day, I received a phone call from the computer repair shop whilst I was at a local library researching computer viruses. I had stumbled upon a piece of software that appeared to be very promising, and I was about to do more research on it, but seeing as how I required my computer as soon as possible, I decided to put the matter on hold. Upon answering the phone and cheerfully greeting the person on the other end, I was greeted with a high-pitched shriek. Startled, I asked what was wrong. A few moments passed where nothing was said, and suddenly, the person on the other end said to me, in a low voice oozing with paranoia, "Come pick up your computer." They hung up immediately after saying that, and I couldn't help but notice that they sounded as if they were on the verge of tears. I briefly wondered if it was due to stress from work, and then drove to the computer repair shop to acquire my computer.

I was positively dismayed upon entering the building. The inside of the computer repair shop looked nothing like the image from my memories. There were broken computer parts scattered throughout the room, ceiling tiles all over the floor, blood splattered in every direction I looked, and even a human toe on the ground. After processing this disturbing information, I began panicking and frantically looking around for my computer. I spotted an employee covered in blood sitting up against the wall, and noticed that his wrists had been slashed open. Thinking quickly, I ran up to him, grabbed him by the collar of his shirt, shook him around, and began screaming, "Where is it!? Where is my computer!?" After a moment of silence, he passed away, completely shattering my expectations. Such a thing! "What a meaningless individual," I thought.

Enraged, I tore the building up even further than it already had been in my desperate search for my computer. Eventually I discovered a door leading to an area that was normally only accessible to employees. I entered without hesitation and was met with a long, skinny hallway that a single person would have trouble moving about freely in. I proceeded down the dark hallway and bumped into the body of an employee hanging from a rope tied to something on the ceiling. I screamed, "Not only do you people have the gall to allow my computer to be endangered, but even in death you intend to block my path!?" After finally managing to push aside the worthless obstacle, I traveled down the hallway and came to a small black door. I entered without a moment's notice, and in the middle of the dark and dreary room, I spotted my computer; it was completely unharmed. With a sigh of relief, I picked it up, left the building, and drove home as if nothing of importance had occurred there.

Upon returning home and hooking up the computer (whilst wearing a cheerful expression the entire time), I, to my horror, discovered that the computer hadn't been repaired. There was nothing in the world that could have contained my fiery anger at that point. I broke almost every single one of my possessions, smashed all the windows on my house, physically abused my family, and then drove back to the computer repair shop to defile the dead lumps of meat that had failed to carry out the task I had given them. After realizing that I shouldn't be meaninglessly wasting my time with such worthless pieces of trash, I remembered the piece of software that I'd discovered earlier. With renewed confidence, I blissfully visited the local library, downloaded the software, and took it home to install on my computer.

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Nearly four months ago, I noticed that my internet connection was very sluggish. Eventually getting fed up with it, I began to seek out software that would speed up the gigabits in my router. After an hour of searching, I found what at first appeared to be a very promising piece of software. Not only did it claim it would speed up my internet connection, but that it would overclock my power supply, speed up my gigabits, and remove any viruses from my computer! "This is a fantastic opportunity that I simply can't pass up," I thought. I immediately downloaded the software and began the installation, all the while laughing like a small child. I was highly anticipating a future where the speed of my internet connection would leave everyone else's in the dust.

I was horribly, horribly naive. Immediately upon the completion of the software's installation, various messages popped up on my screen about how I needed to buy software to remove a virus that I wasn't aware I had from a software company I'd never once heard of. The strange software also blocked me from doing anything except buying the software it was advertising. Being that I was a computer whiz (I had taken a computer essentials class in high school that taught me how to use Microsoft Office, and was quite adept at accessing my Facebook account), I was immediately able to conclude that the software I'd downloaded was, in fact, a virus, and that it was slowing down my gigabits at an exponential rate. "I can't let this insanity proceed any further," I thought.

As I was often called a computer genius, I was confident at the time that I could get rid of the virus with my own two hands. I tried numerous things: restarting the computer, pressing random keys on the keyboard, throwing the mouse across the room, and even flipping an orange switch on the back of the tower and turning the computer back on. My efforts were all in vain; the virus persisted, and my gigabits were running slower than ever! "This cannot be! What is this!? I've never once seen such a vicious virus in my entire life!" I was dumbfounded that I, a computer genius, was unable to remove the virus using the methods I described. Upon coming to terms with my failure, I decided to take my computer to a PC repair shop for repair.

I drove to a nearby computer repair shop and entered the building with my computer in hand. The inside of the building was quite large, neat, and organized, and the employees all seemed very kind and knowledgeable. They laughed upon hearing my embarrassing story, and told me that they saw this kind of thing on a daily basis. They then accepted the job, and told me that in the worst case, it'd be fixed in three days from now. I left with a smile, and felt confident in my decision to leave the computer repairs to the experts.

A week later, they still hadn't called back. Visibly angry, I tried calling them countless times, but not a single time did they answer the phone. Their negligence and irresponsibility infuriated me, and sent me into a state of insanity that caused me to punch a gigantic hole in the wall. Being that I would require my computer for work soon, I decided to head over to the computer repair shop to find out exactly what the problem was.

Upon entering the building, I was shocked by the state of its interior; it looked as if a tornado had tore through the entire building! Countless broken computers were scattered all about the floor, desks were flipped over, the walls had holes in them, there was a puddle of blood on the floor, and worst of all, I saw that my computer was sitting in the middle of the room laying on its side! Absolutely unforgivable! I soon noticed one of the employees sitting behind one of the tipped over desks (the one that had previously had the cash register on top of it); he was shaking uncontrollably and sobbing. Despite being furious about my computer being tipped over, seeing him in that state still managed to make me less unforgiving. I decided to ask him what happened.

A few moments passed where the entire room was silent and nothing was said. Eventually, he pointed at my computer and said to me, "The virus... it cannot be stopped! Cannot be stopped! Cannot be stopped!" Realizing that he was trying to tell me that they were unable to repair my computer (the task I'd given them), I flew into a blind fury and beat him senseless. Not caring about what would happen to him any longer, I collected my computer, ignored the bodies of the two other employees that had committed suicide, and left the building. After a few moments of pondering about what to do and clearing my head, I theorized that their failure to repair my computer probably simply meant that they were unqualified to do the job, and decided to take my computer to another computer repair shop.

I repeated that same process about four times before finally giving up. Each time I took it to a PC repair shop, the result was the same: all the employees either went completely insane, or they committed suicide. Not a single person was able to even do so much as damage the virus. I was able to talk some sense into one of the employees that had gone mad and got them to tell me how they were attempting to fix the problem. They told me that they tried everything from reinstalling the operating system to installing another operating system and trying to get rid of the virus on the other one, but absolutely all of it was to no avail. Having seen numerous attempts by professionals to remove the virus end in failure, I managed to delude myself into believing that my first failure was simply a fluke and that I was the only one on the planet qualified to fix the computer. With renewed vigor, I once again took up the frighteningly dangerous task of defeating the evil, nightmarish virus once and for all with my own two hands.

In my attempts to fix the problem, I'd even resorted to buying another computer. However, the virus used its WiFi capabilities to hack into the gigabits of my new computer and infect it. Following each failed attempt, I grew more and more depressed. I had already beaten my wife and children five times in order to relieve some of my stress, but even that (which had become my only pleasure after failing to remove the virus the first time), did nothing for me any longer. That's right: my last remaining pleasure in life had stopped being able to improve my mood, and I had not a single thing left that I cared about. I sank into a bottomless ocean of depression, barricaded myself in my room, and cried myself to sleep for days on end. Overcome with insanity, vengefulness, and despair, there is not a single doubt that if this had continued for much longer, I would have committed suicide.

One day, it suddenly happened: while I was right in the middle of habitually crying myself to sleep in the middle of the day, I heard a thunderous roar outside, followed by the sound of a large number of people screaming. When I peered outside my window to find out what all the commotion was about, the scene before me closely resembled that of a God descending from the heavens themselves! I gazed in awe at the godlike figure that was descending from the heavens, and so did the dozens of individuals that had gathered in my backyard. For a few moments, everyone was speechless. Then, they started shouting predictions about what they thought the figure was. "Is it a bird!?" "Is it a plane!?" But, despite not ever having seen it before, I knew just how inaccurate their predictions were, and began to speak the name of the heroic figure.

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Re:Does MyCleanPC improve my sex life? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348147)

If not...what use is it in this world.

Re:Anti SEO Post (0)

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If goatse was still around I would have used that sigh.

We are being paid already. (3, Insightful)

Superdarion (1286310) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348039)

But we are being paid for it. With google's services, for instance. Our product is our information and I think Google pays us handsomely for it with their search engine alone.

We struck a bargain, they broke it (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348799)

Take Facebook for example, we struck a bargain for their services, they then broke that bargain and reduced the privacy level. You get committed to a service like FB, and there is a penalty to you for leaving it. All that data, all those contacts were trusted with FB.

So when FB screw you over, you have to bend over and take it.

So it's not like a "service for loss of privacy" contract, it's more a scam-artist approach.

Re:We are being paid already. (2)

wannabgeek (323414) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348877)

Wrt search, Google is getting handsomely compensated for it by their search ads. So, we don't have to pay for it through our information. Our intent (which we disclose through the search term) is enough.

Re:We are being paid already. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348999)

Paid, schmaid... were you compensated fairly, well or not!

Sell? (2)

devnullkac (223246) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348063)

Have we learned nothing from the evil corporate empires that feed us our culture in click-wrapped agreements? Don't sell your personal data... license it! And sue the bastards to death if they share it with anyone else!

Re:Sell? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348075)

I have a patent on licensing personal data. You'll be hearing from my lawyers soon.

Re:Sell? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348499)

I have a patent on transmitting audible messages of a legal nature via lawyer.

Let's talk.

Commercialization makes online rights irrelevent (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348073)

"Our social space online has moved from the public square to the shopping mall.

From the public sphere where we can fight for our rights and influence the laws and bylaws that govern our conduct, where we can engage in civil disobedience when we oppose the rules, to the private sphere, where we have no rights, and can be expelled and excluded at the pleasure of the private owners of the platforms.

Today, if somebody is hosting content that somebody else objects to, that content is not likely to be hosted by a server they control, but rather by a commercial social platform. Such content can be removed with no due process, with no recognition of the rights and liberties of both parties, simply the unilaterally imposed rules of the platform operator.

In the case that the content is controversial, and the objecting party is powerful, the operator has strong incentive to remove it, and very little incentive to put themselves at risk to keep the content online.

The powerful interest that wish to control content online no longer need coersive laws to do so, they simply need co-operation from the platform owners. Such co-operation is happily provided by most operators, and is often even a precondition of their financing.

Commercialization has made online rights irrelevant

The world where “anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs, no matter how singular, without fear of being coerced into silence or conformity” can not exist on Facebook, and can not be built by capital."

- @dmytri

Re:Commercialization makes online rights irreleven (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348185)

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Makes as much sense as your post...

Be careful what you wish for (3, Insightful)

Tim the Gecko (745081) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348227)

What are the two factors that make telephone companies stupid, evil and bureaucratic? Billing and regulation. With Facebook, Gmail, Flickr, etc., we've lucked into a world with no billing (advertising pays), and not too much regulation.

snydeq's proposal seems to open the way to a world where the money flow takes on a life of its own (huge departments keeping track of who gets what), with an inevitable regulatory tidal wave sweeping in soon after the first agreement is signed.

What would be scary is how little I may be valued. I'm not buying a car soon, I can't drink alcohol, and I am socially inept with zero spending on Cialis. It seems like the MLB should stop me watching the World Series for free.

Re:Be careful what you wish for (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348811)

It seems like the MLB should stop me watching the World Series for free.

The first hit is always free. Sure we'll give you some local stations for free so you get a taste for TV, then you can buy into cable to expand your experience. The interesting thing is that cable is something that should be free too, so the television stations get more revenue from their ads, and the cable company should get a cut from the ads. I think the demand for the average public to watch TV is too high, and this allows them to grill em on ads AND cable tv subscription.

Why buy it from you when they can steal it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348541)

'nuff said.

You trade this information for content (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348603)

Much of the content online is basically underwritten by display ad networks. Without serving ads these sites would need to charge directly to pay their authors and hosting fees.

Cha-ching (3, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348615)

And if we take over the selling of our data, all those companies using it now have to respect us and abide by our standards.

That's adorable. You think corporations respect you. Nothing could be further from the truth. You are a means to an end, nothing more. Specifically, money. They'll do anything for money, and since they have way more of it than you, it's you that will be going to them for everything, not the other way around. You want that cell phone? Surrender your personal data. Car? Personal data, please. Internet access? Groceries? Housing? Furniture?

Capitalism without restraint leads to depotism.

Re:Cha-ching (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40349507)

"Capitalism without restraint leads to depotism."

You're close. Capitalism without restraint leads to Home Depotism!

The sad truth (1)

virb67 (1771270) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348625)

The saddest part about your personal information--your privacy--being bought and sold by third parties is that it is not, actually, worth very much. The way corporations like Google or Facebook make it worthwhile is they sell TENS OF MILLIONS of potential customers at a time. Even if one did take control of the market for their own personal info how much do you think you could make? A few cents a transaction maybe? A couple of bucks tops if you're in a really coveted demographic? The true amount is probably a fraction of a fraction of cent. Worth it?

Targeted Ads. (4, Funny)

jhobbs (659809) | more than 2 years ago | (#40348867)

I'll happily share anything and everything advertisers want to know about me if I could ever just get ads that were relevant to me. As an example, Hulu gave me ads for diapers, Charter Cable Internet, and Gucci Cologne in the last show I watched. Charter isn't in my area, I hate kids (and I'm gay so the odds of an accidental one are near zero), and I buy unscented everything. Facebook's targeted ads are just as awful. I mean, its like no one wants my money. And with no wife or kids and my own business I have plenty of it to spend.

Personal questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40349773)

... diapers, Charter Cable Internet, and Gucci Cologne ...

But targeted ads mean you are seeking some answer to which they can suggest a product. By passively watching the TV you are only saying that you are not able to do anything better with your time. Remember, at the very least, Hulu is being paid to show those products at a specific time. Usually because a majority demographic is watching at that time. That you do not have the problems of child-support and monogamy makes you a minority demographic. Lastly, can you spend your money on a round-the-world cruise? Being self-employed means travel and extended holidays are inconvenient recreations.

Re:Personal questions (1)

jhobbs (659809) | more than 2 years ago | (#40352363)

Why does everyone assume that because you are gay your are promiscuous?
You are correct on travel. Fortunately I love what I do and never really crave a vacation to get away from it.
All that said, what's wrong with wanting to see ads for things I would like to buy? (e.g. Electronics, Cars, Food, Appliances, Furniture, or anything for my dog.)

Re:Targeted Ads. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40349785)

"near zero"? ok. so, no ramming some dude's poop chute, having another guy help himself to some sloppy seconds that later plows some chick without cleaning up first and getting her knocked up with your goop instead of his.

and wtf are you even looking at ads for? adblock, ftw. and don't give me some moral bullshit about wanting to support sites like facebook and hulu by wanting relevant ads. anyone who says that is full of shit. nobody wants ads except people who make money on them... and then only when they're actually making money on the actual ad that's in front of them.

Re:Targeted Ads. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40349979)

and wtf are you even looking at ads for? adblock, ftw. and don't give me some moral bullshit about wanting to support sites like facebook and hulu by wanting relevant ads. anyone who says that is full of shit. nobody wants ads except people who make money on them... and then only when they're actually making money on the actual ad that's in front of them.

1. Adblock can't block the ads on Hulu (unless it also blocks the show you want to watch).

2. It's probably been a few years since I've seen one, but there is a kind of ad I would like to see, namely one announcing the availability of a product or service that I would buy if I could. For example, "[Your favorite author] has published a new book", or "[That Broadway show you wanted to see] is now playing in your city". Amazon used to have an email service that matched the first pattern and I actually subscribed to it.

Re:Targeted Ads. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40351203)

"near zero"? ok. so, no ramming some dude's poop chute, having another guy help himself to some sloppy seconds that later plows some chick without cleaning up first and getting her knocked up with your goop instead of his.

There is probably less chance of that happening than winning the lottery, i.e. you could live 1000 lifetimes having promiscuous gay sex every week to reach appreciable odds of that happening, or in other words, "the odds of an accidental one are near zero", and pay specific attention to the qualifier "near".

Re:Targeted Ads. (1)

jhobbs (659809) | more than 2 years ago | (#40352317)

As far as near zero, that's the mathematician in me, as statistically, it isn't an absolute impossibility, just extremely unlikely.
As far as ads go, I do use AdBlock on my computer, I don't on my TV. And there is nothing wrong with ads if they show me something I would like to buy that maybe I didn't know about.

Re:Targeted Ads. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40350013)

Targeted ads are a dumb idea.

I play eve online and somehow that is known to a lot of websites, so I get a lot of advertisement for eve online, which I already play.

Re:Targeted Ads. (1)

IamTheRealMike (537420) | more than 2 years ago | (#40350473)

That doesn't mean targeted ads are a bad idea. It means the advertisers are doing it wrong. Maybe they should be selling goods or services that are relevant to an Eve Online player instead.

I suspect what's actually happening here is re-marketing. The problem is, the ad networks don't know you play Eve Online at all. How would they know that? They see that you have an interest in the topic, but for all they know, you might have been simply checking it out, or you might have been reading some reviews about it, or whatever, but they don't know you're actually a player. So they take a guess and show you an ad for it. This is still right more often than showing you a completely random ad, so they won't stop doing this. The fix is not to say "targeted ads suck", the fix is to allow even more targeted ads so you see ads for, I don't know, ISK sellers or something. But that requires trusted information brokers, which there is a lack of today.

Re:Targeted Ads. (1)

ffflala (793437) | more than 2 years ago | (#40351953)

Hulu at least does have an option to help them with ad customization. In the upper right corner of each ad is a dialog that reads "is this ad relevant to you? yes/no"

Selecting "no" on the least relevant ads does seem to reduce them, though not immediately nor completely. I'm not sure what "yes" does, because personally I hate ads and don't want to encourage any of them.

Re:Targeted Ads. (1)

jhobbs (659809) | more than 2 years ago | (#40352243)

Unfortunately, I have to watch on my computer to be able to provide that feedback. I generally only watch Hulu on my living room television. The only time my feedback ever changed the ads I received was when I wrote to them over the eHarmony ads I was receiving. I complained about the ads because I didn't want to see ads from a company with an anti-gay history(1,2,3). I will say, however, after I wrote, they responded promptly saying they would forward the complaint to marketing and I never saw the ads again. As far as clicking "No" on "Is this ad relevant to you?" I've watched a few shows on my computer with the specific intent on clicking "No" for the Charter Communications ads. At one point around half the ads I saw were for a cable company that doesn't even do business where I live.

(1) http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1627585,00.html [time.com]
(2) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/26/BAGB1BNUE5.DTL [sfgate.com]
(3) http://mashable.com/2010/01/28/eharmony-lawsuit/ [mashable.com]

Re:Targeted Ads. (1)

ffflala (793437) | more than 2 years ago | (#40352527)

Ah, I don't have a separate television and I didn't realize you can't customize ads unless you were at a computer. I'd heard of the eHarmony anti-gay bigotry; I'd also heard that they reject atheists. Fuck that fucking company.

Anyway I've had limited success with customizing Hulu ads. For example, about half of the ads I get are for car insurance and/or cars -- I haven't owned a car since 2006. Since car share services like car2go and Zipcar more than meet my car needs, and are cheaper, more reliable, and more convenient, I have no plans to buy a car.

Still, the other half of the ads are usually blockbuster movie/game ads and the occasional tech/gear ad, which is about as accurate as I think they can get for me. While it is still widely off the mark most of the time, it is more accurately targeted than any other video ads I've yet to encounter.

Your anecdote seems to indicate that feedback button for the ad customization might go a long way for them.

Re:Targeted Ads. (1)

jhobbs (659809) | more than 2 years ago | (#40352607)

I will say this, Hulu is a much better solution than Cable and a Tivo. I just wish they would put a little more effort into targeting ads. This probably has as much to do with the advertisers as anything. I'm sure after a half century of television advertising models, the advertisers till tag their ads as "Gender", "Region", "Time of day" or something similar. Perhaps as ad targeting evolves, both advertisers and media companies will relize the benefits of specific targeting.

Instead of expensive blanket advertising, much cheaper limited run, very targeted ads could gain traction as lots of smaller companies can then afford to get a higher turn for dollars spent. The media companies could benefit from this as well, making money on volume instead of a few deep pocketed advertisers.

It would stand to reason that this would make sense to the companies relying on advertising revenue as it would make them less susceptible to the whims of a few large clients.

It's very simple... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40348913)

First, companies should not be allowed to distributed, publish, mine or otherwise use their customer's personal data for purposes other than what is required to provide the contracted services.

Second, customers should pay for the contracted services.

What made everything foobar is that everyone wants something for nothing, and companies felt at liberty to ignore all sense of responsible behavior as a result. This is why there are so many sleezy products out there that either try to steal your information, or find ways to trick you into paying for something that is "free" (think "micro-payments" and all the ways in which free/low-cost mobile apps try to bleed you with hidden payments).

If customers would grow up and realize that they have to pay for services and companies could be held to reasonable codes of conduct, the world would be so much better off.

You're already being paid. (1)

Bootsy Collins (549938) | more than 2 years ago | (#40349257)

You're already being paid for your personal information.

You're being paid with access to Farmville, or other Facebook features, or whatever.

I thought this was obvious to everyone.

That's such a visionary idea (2)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 2 years ago | (#40349531)

I for one welcome this idea, and I move to extend it to its logical conclusion. I *also* want to be able to sell my wife(1), my kids(2), and my kidneys(3) if I want to, too. It's too hard to think about enforcing all those arbitrary rules, let's just let the market decide(4)!

1) The neighbour stups her already when I'm in the office, so there's a market. I should be compensated in money terms.

2) There's that paedophile I see every day in the park, so there's a market. It's inevitable he'll grab my 7 year old anyway, I should be compensated in money terms.

3) The rich old woman down the street really needs a kidney. She might just get lucky on the waiting list, so I want to get in on the action now. She'll pay anything!

4) I really need the money! Honest!

Re:That's such a visionary idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40350131)

I *also* want to be able to sell my wife(1), my kids(2), and my kidneys(3) if I want to, too.

I may believe you have 3 kidneys, and I'll even accept you have a wife. But no way a slashdotter has kids, you aren't fooling anyone virgin.

Re: (1)

moneybabylon (2226376) | more than 2 years ago | (#40350253)

Won't work. Data wants to be free.

Suicide rates go up (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40350499)

I don't think the average fat, stupid American can handle the fact that they are not worth the thousands they think they are, online.

Or worse, a new breed of hipster emerges for no other purpose than the brag about how high their fake online value is.

90% of the net can disappear tomorrow (well, the non-porn side) and no one would miss it.

You DO get paid for it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40350639)

You get paid for it by getting those services for free. When is the last time you gave Facebook or Google money?

Copyright your SSN + name combination. (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 2 years ago | (#40350667)

Then sue anyone reporting bad credit history about you. Profit!!!

No no no (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 2 years ago | (#40352689)

You don't SELL your personal information. You LICENSE it and charge for yearly updates.

Plus it comes with DRM that requires you to be logged into my server while you use it.

And the whole process is patented.

LAWL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40352981)

FTA: "...And if we take over the selling of our data, all those companies using it now have to respect us and abide by our standards.'"

Give me an R! GIVE ME AN O! GIVE ME AN F! GIVE ME AN L!

ROFL!!!!!!!!!

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