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Testing for Many Designer Drugs At Once

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the collision-induced-disassociation dept.

Science 281

LilaG writes "Drug tests spot banned substances based on their chemical structures, but a new breed of narcotics is designed to evade such tests. These synthetic marijuana drugs, found in 'herbal incense,' are mere chemical tweaks of each other, allowing them to escape detection each time researchers develop a new test for one of the compounds. Now chemists have developed a method that can screen for multiple designer drugs at once, without knowing their structures. The test may help law enforcement crack down on the substances. The researchers used a technique called 'mass defect filtering,' which can detect related compounds all at once. That's because related compounds have almost equal numbers to the right of the decimal point in their molecular masses. The researchers tested their technique on 32 herbal products ... They found that every product contained one or more synthetic cannabinoid; all told, they identified nine different compounds in them — two illegal ones and seven that are not regulated. The original paper appears (behind a paywall) in Analytical Chemistry." From the article: "The research is timely, too. 'Many drugs of abuse in the Olympics are designer drugs,' he [Gary Siuzdak] says, in the steroid family. Grabenauer plans to extend her method to other designer drug families."

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The Devil Snorts Prada (5, Insightful)

cosm (1072588) | more than 2 years ago | (#40365919)

Can't wait to be forced to provide mouth swabs at airports.

Re:The Devil Snorts Prada (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40365935)

We should be so lucky.
We already get free BCSs curtesy the TSA

Re:The Devil Snorts Prada (4, Funny)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366065)

Can't wait to be forced to provide mouth swabs at airports.

It doesn't take an oracle to figure out that orifice is optimistic.

Let's smash asses, you fucker cheeks patty! (-1, Redundant)

MeteorAssTactics (2665059) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366677)

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A few months ago, I accepted what at first appeared to be a very simple job: remove a virus from someone's computer. Given the fact that I owned a PC repair shop (and I still do) and had over 15 years of experience, I was confident that I could complete the job in a timely manner without any complications along the way. Little did I know, however, that accepting this job would spiral my life into a nightmarish den of anguish and uncertainty.

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The family I thought I could count on betrayed me. My wife, whom I loved deeply, filed for a divorce. She said that she could not handle the emotional trauma of being with someone who had cancer. She apologized profusely, but no matter what I said, I could not change her mind. I screamed, I cried, and I begged her to rethink her decision, but it was all to no avail.

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Around a year ago, I was mindlessly surfing the internet (as I often do) when I came across an enigmatic web page. The page, which looked like a warning from my web browser, informed me that I had a virus installed on my computer and that to fix it, I should install a strange anti-virus program that I'd never heard of (which I found peculiar considering the fact that I already had anti-virus software installed on my computer). Despite having reservations about installing it, I did so anyway (since it appeared to be a legitimate warning).

I cannot even fathom what I was thinking at that time. Soon after attempting to install the so-called anti-virus software, my desktop background image changed into a large red warning sign, warnings about malware began making appearances all over the screen, and a strange program I'd never seen before began nagging me to buy a program to remove the viruses. What should have been obvious previously then became clear to me: that software was a virus. Frustrated by my own stupidity, I began tossing objects around the room and cursing at no one in particular.

After I calmed down, I reluctantly took my computer to a local PC repair shop and steeled myself for the incoming fee. When I entered, I noticed that there were four men working there, and all of them seemed incredibly nice (the shop itself was clean and stylish, too). After I described the situation to them, they gave me a big smile (as if they'd seen and heard it all before), accepted the job, and told me that the computer would be working like new again in a few days. At the time, I was confident that their words held a great degree of truth to them.

The very next day, while I was using a local library's computer and browsing the internet, I came across a website dedicated to a certain piece of software. It claimed that it could fix up my PC and make it run like new again. I knew, right then, merely from viewing a single page on the website, that it was telling the truth. I cursed myself for not discovering this excellent piece of software before I had taken my PC to the PC repair shop. "It would've saved me money. Oh, well. I'm sure they'll get the job done just fine. I can always use this software in the future to conserve money." Those were my honest thoughts at the time.

Two days later, my phone rang after I returned home from work. I immediately was able to identify the number: it was the PC repair shop's phone number. Once I answered, something strange occurred; the one on the other end of the line spoke, in a small, tormented voice, "Return. Return. Return. Return. Return." No matter what I said to him, he would not stop repeating that one word. Unsettled by this odd occurrence, I traveled to the PC repair shop to find out exactly what happened.

Upon arriving inside the building, I looked upon the shop, which was a shadow of its former self, in shock. There were countless wires all over the floor, smashed computer parts scattered in every direction I looked, fallen shelves on the ground, desks flipped over on the ground, and, to make matters even worse, there was blood splattered all over the wall. Being the reasonable, upstanding, college-educated citizen that I was, I immediately concluded that the current state of the shop was due to none other than an employee's stress from work. I looked around a bit more, spotted three bodies sitting against the wall, and in the middle of the room, I spotted my computer. "Ah. There it is." Directly next to it was the shop's owner, sitting on the ground in the fetal position.

When I questioned him, he kept repeating a single thing again and again: "Cannot be stopped! Cannot be stopped! Cannot be stopped!" I could not get him to tell me what was wrong, but after a bit of pondering, I quickly figured out precisely what happened: they were unable to fix my computer like they had promised. Disgusted by their failure, I turned to the shop's owner (who I now noticed had a gun to his head), and spat in his general direction. I then turned my back to him as if I was attempting to say that nothing behind me was worth my attention, and said to him, "Pathetic. Absolutely, positively pathetic. I asked you to do a single thing for me, and yet you failed even at that. Were I you, I'd be disgusted by myself, and I'd probably even take my own life. Such a worthless existence isn't even worthy of receiving my gaze!"

After saying that, I left the shop with my computer as if absolutely nothing had occurred there. And, indeed, there was nothing in that shop that was worthy of my attention. Still understandably disgusted by their inability to fulfill the promise, I said to myself, "I'll have to take this into my own hands." After getting into my car to drive home, I heard a gun shot from inside the repair shop. Being that it originated from the worthless owner of that shop, I promptly decided to ignore it.

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About eight months ago, I was searching around the internet to find out why my computer was running so slowly (it normally ran quite fast, but had gradually gotten slower over time). After a few minutes, I found a piece of software claiming that it could speed up my PC and make it run like new again. Being that I was dangerously ignorant about technology in general (even more so than I am now), I downloaded the software and began the installation. Mere moments after doing so, my desktop background image was changed and warnings that appeared to originate from Windows appeared all over the screen telling me to buy strange software from an unknown company in order to remove a virus it claimed I had.

I may have been ignorant about technology, but I wasn't that naive. I immediately concluded that the software I'd downloaded was, in fact, a virus. In my rage, I broke numerous objects, punched a hole in the wall, and cursed the world at the top of my lungs. I eventually calmed down, cleared my head, and realized that the only remedy for this problem was a carefully thought out plan. After a few moments of pondering about how to handle this situation, I decided that since I barely knew how to properly handle a computer, I should turn it over to the professionals and let them fix the issue.

Soon after making the decision, I drove to a local computer repair shop and entered the building with my computer in hand. They greeted me with a smile and stayed attentive the entire time that I was explaining the problem to them. They laughed as if they'd heard it all before, told me that I'm not the only one who has trouble operating computers, and then gave me a date for when the computer would be fixed. Not only had they told me that the computer would be completely repaired in at most two days, but the price for their services was surprisingly low, and to top it all off, they even gave me advice for how to avoid viruses in the future! I left the building feeling confident in my decision to seek professional help and satisfied knowing that such kind-hearted people were the ones doing the job.

The very next day, I received a phone call from the computer repair shop whilst I was at a local library researching computer viruses. I had stumbled upon a piece of software that appeared to be very promising, and I was about to do more research on it, but seeing as how I required my computer as soon as possible, I decided to put the matter on hold. Upon answering the phone and cheerfully greeting the person on the other end, I was greeted with a high-pitched shriek. Startled, I asked what was wrong. A few moments passed where nothing was said, and suddenly, the person on the other end said to me, in a low voice oozing with paranoia, "Come pick up your computer." They hung up immediately after saying that, and I couldn't help but notice that they sounded as if they were on the verge of tears. I briefly wondered if it was due to stress from work, and then drove to the computer repair shop to acquire my computer.

I was positively dismayed upon entering the building. The inside of the computer repair shop looked nothing like the image from my memories. There were broken computer parts scattered throughout the room, ceiling tiles all over the floor, blood splattered in every direction I looked, and even a human toe on the ground. After processing this disturbing information, I began panicking and frantically looking around for my computer. I spotted an employee covered in blood sitting up against the wall, and noticed that his wrists had been slashed open. Thinking quickly, I ran up to him, grabbed him by the collar of his shirt, shook him around, and began screaming, "Where is it!? Where is my computer!?" After a moment of silence, he passed away, completely shattering my expectations. Such a thing! "What a meaningless individual," I thought.

Enraged, I tore the building up even further than it already had been in my desperate search for my computer. Eventually I discovered a door leading to an area that was normally only accessible to employees. I entered without hesitation and was met with a long, skinny hallway that a single person would have trouble moving about freely in. I proceeded down the dark hallway and bumped into the body of an employee hanging from a rope tied to something on the ceiling. I screamed, "Not only do you people have the gall to allow my computer to be endangered, but even in death you intend to block my path!?" After finally managing to push aside the worthless obstacle, I traveled down the hallway and came to a small black door. I entered without a moment's notice, and in the middle of the dark and dreary room, I spotted my computer; it was completely unharmed. With a sigh of relief, I picked it up, left the building, and drove home as if nothing of importance had occurred there.

Upon returning home and hooking up the computer (whilst wearing a cheerful expression the entire time), I, to my horror, discovered that the computer hadn't been repaired. There was nothing in the world that could have contained my fiery anger at that point. I broke almost every single one of my possessions, smashed all the windows on my house, physically abused my family, and then drove back to the computer repair shop to defile the dead lumps of meat that had failed to carry out the task I had given them. After realizing that I shouldn't be meaninglessly wasting my time with such worthless pieces of trash, I remembered the piece of software that I'd discovered earlier. With renewed confidence, I blissfully visited the local library, downloaded the software, and took it home to install on my computer.

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Re:The Devil Snorts Prada (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366189)

They already swab your hands for chemical residue if they think you might be impaired. They did it to me in Atlanta, I was shocked. And also probably logged as an entry into a database somewhere.

Re:The Devil Snorts Prada (2, Funny)

Entropius (188861) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366359)

Can't wait to be forced to provide mouth* swabs at airports.

*(or vagina)

Not Regulated... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40365921)

... means it's not illegal. Try explaining that to an employer that can't get past a "positive" test.

Re:Not Regulated... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40365987)

Knew someone who flew straight through a standard urine drug screen less than 18 hours after sparking up some synthetic... if you're positive, you're on the genuine article.

Re:Not Regulated... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366523)

Yeah and I've seen someone smoke actual marijuana and then pass a piss test 4 hours later...While still being high!
And for some reason I fail for up to 3 months after quitting :( Then there was that one time I passed when I hadn't quit at all, I just hadn't smoked that day. These "tests" aren't accurate. The 99.9999% accuracy rating they claim is in LAB RESULTS ONLY.
Seriously why don't employers just ask?!? I'm honest and not ashamed to smoke pot at all.

Re:Not Regulated... (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366003)

Well used in this way I would assume that they meant, basically identical to the illegal drugs but new enough that the law has not caught up.

as an employer I would not differentiate between an employee who is addicted to cocaine or Mephedrone.

Also, while it may be legal to drink on the job, and even to be drunk, that is normally frowned upon.

Re:Not Regulated... (3, Interesting)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366033)

This does bring up an interesting point. Do laws contain chemical nomenclature and/or diagrams to differentiate extremely similar chemicals? How the hell does anyone in office manage to work that out if so?

This topic demands investigation.

Re:Not Regulated... (4, Informative)

reverseengineer (580922) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366669)

Drug laws vary widely of course, but as an example, the US DEA drug schedules [usdoj.gov] both directly specify molecules, including derivatives and precursors in some cases, and also have some entries like "barbiturates not specifically listed." In addition, they include the statement, "This document is a general reference and not a comprehensive list. This list describes the basic or parent chemical and does not describe the salts, isomers and salts of isomers, esters, ethers and derivatives which may also be controlled substances."

Re:Not Regulated... (5, Insightful)

joocemann (1273720) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366039)

As an employer that is realistic and wants good efficiency, you have no business trying to find out if employee x is on drugs unless the intox is blatant and/or dangerous.

Measure your employees by their ability to produce desired output; leave alone their human private lives and personal choices.

'Screening' employees for drugs only makes liars out of the honest people you hire. Drug tests should follow a workplace accident where intox is suspected. Otherwise you should fire them for honest reasons, like low productivity or focus or whatever real issue you observe.

Re:Not Regulated... (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366165)

But then, is measuring an employees productivity and accuracy any nicer when giving them drug tests? And it is not even possible all the time, some people don't work individually and some people are not doing work that is exactly the same as other work and therefore easy to estimate how long it should take.

And really a self inflicted efficiently loss is not the same as a nature one. There is a difference between an employee who come in drunk once a week and suffers from a 20% decrease in productivity on those days and another one who is just occasionally off their game and has a similar decrease. The first one probably deserves to be fired, while the other one might just not get any raises. There are legitimate reasons that we have a constant legal alcohol limit for driving instead of having it based off of driving skill and alcohol tolerance. Yes a good driver who is accustomed to drinking is a safer drunk driver then many sober drivers, but the sober driver is doing his best, while the drunk is willfully negligent.

One paradigm is, just hire people who have skill and potential. Make sure they are happy, healthy, and intoxicant free and assume they are doing their best and that that is all you can ask.

Re:Not Regulated... (2, Interesting)

joocemann (1273720) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366217)

The best way is to decide if they are worth what you're paying or not, and then decide based on that.

No need to meddle in private lives.

What if the hypothetical drunk you wanted to fire, instead of the mildly slow person, was an alcoholic due to bad parents and genetic propensity? Are you now judging one natural outcome against another while lacking the informed compassion to understand that the drunk never had a choice?

  Better yet, avoid being judged as an ignorant or incompassionate employer with one simple foundation: judge the employee as worth/not-worth their pay and leave their life alone.

Re:Not Regulated... (4, Insightful)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366385)

I had a very bad parent because of a genetic propensity to severe alcoholism. I am not an alcoholic. I drink but not often. My brother was an alcoholic but stopped drinking because he knew he couldn't do it responsibly so that it was all or nothing. He chose nothing. Some of my father's siblings drank too much but stopped. My grandfather was a raging drunk with a mean disposition. And so on down the line.

Stop making fucking excuses for people. People are not addicted to anything because of genetic predisposition or parenting. They get addicted because of their fucking actions. Fuck I hate... HATE this politically correct BULLSHIT. The drunk always had a choice so shut the fuck up unless you have something useful to say on the subject.

People are responsible for their actions unless they are mentally retarded, and even then many are still bright enough to be responsible. It's why many can live on their own and have jobs etc. The only people who aren't responsible for their own actions are people too mentally deficient to be or those with mental disabilities who need to live on a psyc ward. Now go find a commune and sing fucking Kumbaya with your friends and leave actual thinking to others.

Re:Not Regulated... (2, Insightful)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366475)

"People are not addicted to anything because of genetic predisposition or parenting", said the person with alcoholic parents in a family of genetically-related alcoholics, while ignoring that alcoholism rates are the exact same with monkeys that have access to alcohol as they are with humans, because it is in fact genetically determined.

Re:Not Regulated... (5, Insightful)

amRadioHed (463061) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366225)

And it is not even possible all the time, some people don't work individually and some people are not doing work that is exactly the same as other work and therefore easy to estimate how long it should take.

Just because you don't have any good metrics for measuring workers performance, why does that give you the right to make up arbitrary standards unrelated to the job?

If the tests were actual tests to measure intoxication then it would be reasonable, because you're right that you should be able to expect your employees to not be intoxicated on the job. However the tests don't measure that, they test if the user has been exposed to the drugs at any time recently. This doesn't mean they were intoxicated on the job, and for new hires probably doesn't even mean they were intoxicated while working for you.

Re:Not Regulated... (1)

joocemann (1273720) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366333)

By the way, I think the legal limit for drink driving should be so strict that one pint would breach. That's public safety.

Fortunately, the police don't screen everyone in public. Rather they observe the bad behavior, inquire, then arrest/test as necessary. And now that point should be clearly irrelevant compared to employee drug screens.

Re:Not Regulated... (1)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366483)

You directly contradicted yourself in my eyes. "Things should be this way but I'm glad they aren't." Either it is or it isn't. You don't get to choose a quantum superposition of two different opinions on the matter.

Re:Not Regulated... (2)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366481)

You are exactly why I have no faith in our education system. The "all that matters is you try" attitude is disgusting. I assume you learned this attitude via the public schools social promotion program. Pay/employ people based on whether they can do the job. I don't want doctors who try hard. I want doctors who can perform a better job effortlessly. Likewise, I don't want a cashier that tries hard. I want one that can ring me through twice as fast effortlessly.

Re:Not Regulated... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366537)

blah blah ... self inflicted efficiently[sic] loss is not the same as a nature[sic] one. There is a difference between an employee who come[sic] in drunk once a week and suffers from a 20% decrease in productivity on those days and another one who is just occasionally off their game and has a similar decrease. The first one probably deserves to be fired, while the other one might just not get any raises.

Why? They're equally productive to me as an employer --- and only the drunk actually has the potential to improve.

Re:Not Regulated... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366179)

Right. I should have no interest at all in whether or not a forklift operator in my warehouse is on drugs. What bad could come of letting a meth head drive the forklift? I should also have no interest in whether or not the office worker who is about to walk into the warehouse full of moving machinery is stoned out of his gourd, right? Surely, he wouldn't file a worker's comp claim or even possibly sue when he fails to notice the large, beeping, flashing thing coming his way and steps in front of it getting his skull caved in.

Drugs have no place in the workplace. Drug users have no place in the workplace. Anyone who thinks it is unfair for an employer to drug test them should go smoke another bong and dream up their own business while their third eye is open. When they're self employed they can decide who gets to be a worthless stoned sack at the office.

Re:Not Regulated... (2)

joocemann (1273720) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366227)

As far as you know, he is on meth right now and you're not legally empowered to test every day to catch it.... and you can't tell the difference.

Can you tell the diff? If you can, fire them. No drug test necessary... dangerous use of the forklift. If you can't, welcome to reality.

Re:Not Regulated... (1)

joocemann (1273720) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366281)

Let me make my point another way.

If none of your employees right now are using drugs, you can put the "stupid" sticker right on your forehead right next to your negative drug tests. Some actually are.

If none of your friends or family use drugs... guess what... you are, again, too confident in what you don't know. You lack the oversight to actually know. Some of them actually do.

Did you think your litle fantasy of work and life would escape the reality of drugs? It won't. Reality is real, with or without your acknowledgement or permission.

Fire the stoned guy because you noticed. Fire the forklift driver for being reckless.

Re:Not Regulated... (2)

Shoten (260439) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366209)

As an employer that is realistic, often you *have* to do drug screening. Many industries have external regulatory requirements mandating such testing, and many companies have customers that insist upon it from the service providers they use. I'm no fan of drug testing myself; it's too prone to false positives and the consequences of coming up with a false positive are dire. But all the same, most of the time when drug testing is in place, it's not really up to the company that's having their employees tested.

Re:Not Regulated... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366327)

while this may be true, it does not absolve companies of their complicity. one company tried to have our co. have all workers take time out of our work day on our dime and submit to the nearest state police dept. so our fbi background check could be performed and maybe blood test(i can't remember). I told my subordinates about it, we all agreed that they could suck it, and we ignored the order. i then "debated" with every higher up that had the naivety to bring up our compliance with me. These are global edicts that are about gaining control over peoples bodies and minds. just fire people that can't control their habits and organize with other companies at your company's same level and tell the higher ups to fuck off. that's like the lawyer that says, that you "have" to do something. you don't have to do shit! We only allow ourselves to be incarerated or coherced by higher ups because we decide it's in our best interests to allow the injustice temporarily so that we may position ourselves better. at some point you must say "no" and punish those that asked or demanded.

Re:Not Regulated... (1)

ERJ (600451) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366245)

Ultimately, an employee on drugs is a liability to the company. Whether that be due to dangerous situations that drugs can introduce (i.e. fork lift driver under the influence) or simply that the employee could be arrested for possession, it is not unreasonable for a company to proactively setup a certain standard when it comes to drug use.

Re:Not Regulated... (3, Informative)

joocemann (1273720) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366307)

What purpose does that standard serve? Do you, irrationally, expect the screen to prove anything?

The screen will turn your honest employee into a liar; you will select for drug users that are good at passing screens.

Reality is reality. Sorry to squash the dream.

Re:Not Regulated... (4, Interesting)

simplexion (1142447) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366257)

I love you.
A while ago I was speaking with overheard someone talking about a friend being fired for being high at work. I asked him more about it. Apparently the guy had been working in the same job (welder) for around 15 years. He had consumed cannabis at work over that entire time. It wasn't until a new manager came in and decided to fire him for this. It had nothing to do with his performance, he apparently did his job very well.

Re:Not Regulated... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366471)

It does affect different people very differently - I know a very well paid and highly thought-of sysadmin who smoked weed while he worked. It jsut didn't have the same effect on him as it does with me.

A good toke and I can barely figure out how to walk. It sparks off my imagination - my sense of humour goes ballistic, but I have to keep it separate from any work context.

Re:Not Regulated... (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366389)

Yes, but that doesn't jive with the current policy of being way too intrusive on people's private lives and being extra creepy.

Re:Not Regulated... (2)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366235)

as an employer I would not differentiate between an employee who is addicted to cocaine or Mephedrone.

What business is that of yours? If your employees are doing their job, why should you be concerned with their choices of recreational drugs?

Re:Not Regulated... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366413)

Drunk on power is smiled upon though...

Re:Not Regulated... (1)

catmistake (814204) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366581)

as an employer I would not differentiate between an employee who is addicted to cocaine or Mephedrone.

Then it is unfortunate that all testing employers do by the nature of how long these drugs are still detectable after use. You could use cannibis once in your life, and three weeks later test positive, get the boot. But you could be high on heroin or cocaine for decades, stop for two days to pass a test, then go right on using, no one ever being the wiser.

The drug screening is invariably biased against the use of cannibis... slanted heavily towards weeding out those that use weed. It is ironic that there wouldn't even be a United States of America if it wasn't for cannibis. The Founders are rolling in their graves... at least I hope they are. Meanwhile, it is the heavier drugs, like cocaine, that are tremendously detrimental to both the user and to society.

until we (5, Insightful)

nimbius (983462) | more than 2 years ago | (#40365933)

address the greater issue of biblical retribution as drug policy i dont see science being able to contribute anything meaningful. Occams razor would suggest the simple solution to whatever the hell OP means by "synthetic marijuana" is just to legalize marijuana itself.
the 'war on drugs' is such an abject failure that that not even our presidents and congress comment upon unless to reinforce the consistently disproven negative myths and stereotypes. Until we apply a modicum of science to determining what vectors cause drug abuse in society, all we're doing is inventing new ways to fill prisons.

Re:until we (5, Informative)

khasim (1285) | more than 2 years ago | (#40365997)

Until we apply a modicum of science to determining what vectors cause drug abuse in society, all we're doing is inventing new ways to fill prisons.

There are a lot of "for profit" prisons being run by corporations. So generating more inmates may be a goal. More inmates mean more revenues for those corporations.

And this is an easy way for politicians to appear "tough on crime" when they need election points.

Re:until we (1)

bigtrike (904535) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366067)

And this is an easy way for politicians to appear "tough on crime" when they need donations.

FTFY

Re:until we (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366103)

Also prison guard unions. See also California.

Re:until we (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366271)

Posting AC to preserve my vote for this post. I cannot agree with it enough. Hell, I actually had to pay $40 a day for the "privilege" of fulfilling my 48 hours of jailtime as required by the court.

Re:until we (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366349)

criminalization and the incarceration industry is how the rich convince the middle class to reimburse them for the social security slave labor goals unrealized by the poor.

Re:until we (1)

jcr (53032) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366659)

You're conflating the rich with the political class. Not all rich people participate in the crimes of the ruling class, and not all members of the ruling class are rich.

-jcr

Re:until we (2)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366399)

Indeed. It's frightening to think that the legal system has been hijacked to create a form of legal slavery.

Paramilitary Police (5, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366171)

the 'war on drugs' is such an abject failure

That depends on your definition of "success." Since its inception, there have been the following goals in the war on drugs:

  1. Harassing and arresting black people, especially black men. As far back as the debate on cocaine prohibition (yes, this was once debated), there were people, especially police officers, warning of the dangers of black men using drugs. Black men on cocaine were unstoppable monsters, and cops had no choice but to upgrade the caliber of their guns to fight them. Black men who smoked marijuana were incited to play jazz music, and white women who smoked marijuana would want to have sex with black men. Black men who use PCP will go crazy. Black people will go nuts over crack cocaine.
  2. Increasing police power. Related to the above, since we obviously need more police officers in black neighborhoods to crack down on dangerous black drug users. We also need cops attacking hippies and anti-war protesters. We need cops who carry assault rifles and grenades to fight the drug dealers (did I mention that they are black too? That's the message that the mainstream media sends.). The cops also need the power to declare drugs to be illegal, without consulting congress. The cops also need to be allowed to recycle seized assets from drug raids into their budgets. They need expanded surveillance capabilities.
  3. Corporate profits. Hemp fibers compete with synthetics. Alcohol, tobacco, and coffee companies have to compete with all those other recreational drugs, so let's make them illegal. Pharmaceutical companies get to inflate their profits by ensuring that only they legally are allowed to market entire classes of drugs (opiates, amphetamines, etc.). Firearms companies, law enforcement equipment makers, and so forth have seen big profits from the drug war. Let's not forget the private prison operators, a relatively new trend but an important one -- big profits come from big prison populations.

Notice something missing from that list? Public health and safety. That's at the bottom of the priorities list in the war on drugs, because the war on drugs never had anything to do with health or safety.

Re:Paramilitary Police (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366383)

That's a neat and tidy history there, but not actually history. I'll grant you that the first two are very persuasive arguments for contemporary motivations keeping the War on Drugs alive. But regulation of drugs in this country was absolutely driven, in the first instance, by concern over public health and safety. Snake oil salesmen roamed the country, poisoning people, and injecting poisonous substances into the stream of commerce. It became a very real issue in the early part of the 20th century.

The federal marijuana ban came on the heels of the repeal of prohibition. At this time the federal government was exceedingly reasonable and liberal about the application of alcohol and drug laws. This was a time where growing your own weed, or (during prohibition) distilling your own alcohol for consumption in your home with friends and relatives, was legal and constitutionally protected.

The present War on Drugs is a manifestation of the modern regulatory state, which _postdates_ the imposition of anti-drug legislation.

Re:Paramilitary Police (2)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366501)

You're confusing the regulation of medicinal drugs/doctors with the regulation of recreational drugs. Two separate issues, two separate vectors of regulation. The first recreational drugs were opium dens banned in San Francisco in the 1800s. This was way before FDA and regulation of snake oil salesmen. Racist "goals" happen first, ones that actually help people happen later.

Re:Paramilitary Police (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366575)

making drugs isn't just about target blacks; it's about targeting many minorities. marijuana was made illegal because arizona wanted a reasons to go after mexicans. opium was made illegal to go after chinese.

Re:until we (1)

Wrath0fb0b (302444) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366551)

address the greater issue of biblical retribution as drug policy i dont see science being able to contribute anything meaningful. Occams razor would suggest the simple solution to whatever the hell OP means by "synthetic marijuana" is just to legalize marijuana itself.

Science doesn't care whether the drugs being tested are for draconian legal policy (btw, I likely agree with you on that) or for ensuring that cheaters don't get ahead in athletic competitions. And in the latter case, I think it's absolutely abhorrent that the effective message that athletes get from the implicit tolerance in many sports is that they have to take provably harmful drugs or else be beaten by someone willing to trash their body for extra performance*. That's not fair to the athletes, effectively pressuring them to sacrifice their health for their careers, nor is it faithful to the spirit of the game.

Of course, cheating can never be perfectly eliminated from any competition with real stakes but neither science nor simplicity says we need to tolerate that or give up development of better ways to detect and punish them.

* In the spirit of this article [slashdot.org] , I suppose I'd be fine with having parallel medals/records for those that want to see what the limit of human performance under heavy doses of steroids and HGH might be. If they rage out and commit suicide or suffer a massive heart attack, at least I can say 'well, they could have chosen to stay in the no-drug league and competed on their own merits'.

Better idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40365937)

Legalize the srelatvely afe, well-known ones, and then no one will be lining up to smoke incense or snort bath salts.

Re:Better idea (3, Funny)

cosm (1072588) | more than 2 years ago | (#40365967)

Legalize the srelatvely afe, well-known ones, and then no one will be lining up to smoke incense or snort bath salts.

Somebody's snorted a few grammars lexdysia it appears...

Re:Better idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366197)

*grammers

In any case, that's what you get, taking prayer out of public schools.

Re:Better idea (1)

dark12222000 (1076451) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366231)

*grammars

I can see your school clearly had prayer.

Re:Better idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366435)

The AC had it mild. I was thinking only about testing multiple designer drugs at once.

False positives anyone? (1)

Shavano (2541114) | more than 2 years ago | (#40365973)

Banning chemicals based on their molecular mass! This sounds like a great way to ban everything. Then the government can lock us all up.

Re:False positives anyone? (4, Funny)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#40365977)

Possession of any polyethylene chains between 10 and 30 mers is hereby ILLEGAL! Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some microscopy to do on my water bottle...

Re:False positives anyone? (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366409)

I know, right? You'd think the government would extensively test a new substance before outlawing it, but hey, they've been losing the war on drugs, and this new test is certain to turn things around.

So, they found a better way to detect Pot? (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40365981)

The one drug that lasts for months in your system, already. The one drug that is so prevalent in tests that a number of labs refuse to test for drugs at all, because the only thing they ever detect is marijuana?, because all of the hard drugs dissipate from the system within a few days? The one drug that physicians, economists, and social agentsies around the world say should not be prohibited at all?

Glad to see we're prioritizing.

Re:So, they found a better way to detect Pot? (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366419)

Well, it's that, or they have to talk about the state of the economy. And since that's not much of a winning issue for the Party of Purple, they're going to focus on making mountains out of molehills instead.

False Positives, anyone? (5, Insightful)

0WaitState (231806) | more than 2 years ago | (#40365991)

So, um, what's the false positive rate with this test? For a while people were being convicted of cocaine trafficking because the money in their pockets had traces of cocaine. Eventually it was disclosed that ALL (US) currency has traces of cocaine.

Re:False Positives, anyone? (4, Insightful)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366023)

Doesn't matter. If there is a chance you did something illegal, in the new United States, you are automatically convicted and will serve out the maximum sentence until proven innocent. And if, by some miraculous mechanism you manage to survive that fate, well, they'll just revoke all the "privileges" you have, like driving, internet, education, leaving your house....

False positives stopped being a concern around the time that "reasonable doubt" was replaced by "irrefutable proof of innocence."

no false positives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366535)

The false positive rate for this test is zero: the tests they describe are the gold standard for confirmation of a molecular formula.

However, especially considering what's being done with these compounds (structural variations on a theme), there is some room for false positives on the structural level. Many different structures can have the same elemental composition: these isomers will have identical mass spectra. Theoretically, they could/should have different fragmentation spectra, but that will be complicated by the structural similarities.

Re:no false positives (2)

0WaitState (231806) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366555)

I'll take your second paragraph as a declaration that the false positive potential is non-zero.

Did you see Hancock movie. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366007)

He did 80 million in damages to stop a freeway chase.
That is what the government is doing to tax payers with this crap.

End the drug war and give old people back there social security.

I am sick of footing the bill for anything they can think of.

Insanity. (3, Insightful)

RyanFenton (230700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366017)

I'm the sort of guy who can't personally empathize with chemical escapism (our time in reality is far too limited as it is for my tastes, and there's far too much to explore) - but really, it just seems complete insanity to expect to help anything by denying it as harshly as we do to others, at least in the US.

The best path would seem to be to defuse the need, and eliminate the allure, rather than spend such a huge percentage of our shared wealth on prisons and enforcement, all while simply breeding worse problems.

There's endless pits of dependency - the harsh 'solutions' of endless punishment only seem to dig the holes into deeper, stranger territory - spreading the drug problem into endless splinters.

As a non-drug-user in general, I'm sick of paying the hidden tax of an inefficient drug policy. I'd rather have open drug use and pity the over-users, rather than have to pay for such an abnormally high portion of our population to remain in jail, contributing greatly to the ruin of our economy.

Ryan Fenton

Re:Insanity. (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366263)

The best path would seem to be to defuse the need

No, the best plan is to regulate drugs, so that (a) people know what they are ingesting (b) people are warned about possible unwanted effects and (c) houses do not turn into superfund sites because of underground chemical labs. People are always going to use recreational drugs; the only societies in human history that were actually "drug free" were those that had no access to drugs, and those are a rarity. People are also going to use drugs in non-recreational manners, like drinking coffee to help focus.

Re:Insanity. (2)

Artifakt (700173) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366611)

Pot and Acid are often used in non-recreational manners. There's plenty of people who took acid to explore their own minds and some whose goal was spiritual insight. (I'm not saying that it worked - I've seen some people where I'm pretty sure it didn't). Pot supposedly has some good uses as an anti-nausea drug, and LSD was used in a number of treatment programs to get people off of other drugs, drinking and some even sexually obsessive behaviors such as paedophilia in the 60s and many of these programs reported very good overall success, but a lot of the patients also claimed to have had spiritual insights that sounded like new age, world religions or 'Eastern' mystical experiences. It makes a certain amount of sense that treating such conditions as severe alcoholism might actually need a drug powerful enough to reach deep into a person's psyche, and that any drug that could help such a condition would also produce what the patient would call a 'life changing experience'.
            As it stands, these two drugs are totally banned, and the government insists they have absolutely no legitimate uses. I don't know of anyone who uses methaqmphetamine or crack for spiritual insight - ALL meth and crack use seems to be recreational/escapist in motivation, yet both drugs are on the list of substances with legitimate medical uses. The easiest way to get a drug on the 'don't even think about trying to find a legitmizing use" list for the USA is for people to mention feeling at one with the universe, wanting world peace, or using that pesky word, 'love' outside of a church. If these drugs had just made people want to listen to Laurence Welk and dress like Advertising Execs, instead of listening to Jazz and dressing like Flower Children, they would probably be mandatory today instead of banned.

Re:Insanity. (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366311)

I'm the sort of guy who can't personally empathize with chemical escapism (our time in reality is far too limited as it is for my tastes, and there's far too much to explore)

Ah, but if you indulged for a while in, your nauseatingly patronizing term, "chemical escapism" you would realize that there is yet even more reality to explore, dork.

Re:Insanity. (3, Insightful)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366439)

Ah, the power of the 'Dare' program -> it's kind of like your favorite party's or country's propaganda: you live in the best country in the world, why would you ever want to vacation elsewhere? you're already in the right party, with the right beliefs, why question those beliefs? etc.

Knowledge not gained first-hand is worth its weight in sand.

Re:Insanity. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366449)

Mod parent up.

Re:Insanity. (0)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366461)

I wish I had mod points.

-1 for signing your post like a douche.

Re:Insanity. (4, Interesting)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366513)

"There's far too much to explore", said the man unwilling to explore recreational drugs.

Read as "Testing Many Designer Drugs At Once" (5, Funny)

intellitech (1912116) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366037)

The real title turned out to be far less exciting.

Re:Read as "Testing Many Designer Drugs At Once" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366637)

Ive tested many designer drugs at once, 75 total in my life time. Write a news report on me for how I'm still alive and functioning

Experience (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366057)

I'm pretty sure Olympic athletes aren't smoking gas station alterna-weeds. As someone who is a regular user of cannabis and various psychedelics, I can attest that these synthetic compounds are far more destructive and unpredictable than any strain of marijuana or mushroom. Synthetic cannabinoid blends and bath salts are only used by the shadiest of shadesters, at least in the area I live in. I've watched people on them and it's not fun, or funny. Watching someone on them is always a depressing experience, because they either get too fucked up to move or they explode into a violent fury like some meth-ed up trailer trash.

As an advocate for the legalization of marijuana, even I think those JHB-based substances should be banned. There's no telling what goes into them. At least with weed you know what you're getting and what to expect. These designer 'legal highs' are a product of a failed system and only serve to further the notion that all psychotropics are destructive and without purpose.

For those who would disagree, look into the benefits of threshold does psilocybin for the treatment of cluster headaches, as well as the use of MDMA as a treatment for PTSD and alcoholism.

Re:Experience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366061)

**JWB-based

Re:Experience (0)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366517)

"I'm pretty sure Olympic athletes aren't smoking gas station alterna-weeds." Then you are one naive motherfucker, but then, I expect less of anonymous cowards.

Synthetic drugs can mess you up bad (4, Interesting)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366069)

Just like when we had prohibition of alcohol, people were going blind from stills, refusing to regulate pot means they can make poisonous alternatives. I've heard of people getting real sick and permanently maimed off of designer drugs. The worst that can happen with pot is that you try and drive somewhere intoxicated. Pot doesn't even cause lung cancer like cigarettes(You can google many mainstream scientific studies).

Legalization of pot would harm gangs who sell pot in addition to removing pot from being a gateway drug. Since people would no longer go to underground dealers for pot, they would no longer have access to the other underground connections.

Marijuana vs. lung cancer (1, Troll)

mapinguari (110030) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366233)

Google results like this one?
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/201102/does-marijuana-cause-cancer [psychologytoday.com]

or this?
http://lungcancer.about.com/od/causesoflungcance1/f/marijuana.htm [about.com]

At best, you can say that there are no definitive studies linking the two, but it appears that most combustibles emit carcinogens when burned.

I'm not saying that's a reason to ban marijuana, but, like with tobacco, users should really make informed choices.

Re:Synthetic drugs can mess you up bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366431)

If you have ever cleaned a bong in your life time, I doubt anyone in their right mind can claim pot is harmless. If it coats the lungs with any type of resin, that can't be good.

With that said, the war on drugs is more insane than using drugs. Lets stop feeding prison systems and wasting taxpayer money. Leaglize it now.

Re:Synthetic drugs can mess you up bad (1)

naroom (1560139) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366485)

The worst that can happen with pot is that you try and drive somewhere intoxicated.

Lost a friend to bad weed that was laced with meth. She smoked it and her heart stopped.

The fact that pot is illegal is by far the biggest reason it is a dangerous drug. Legalize it and regulate the hell out of it, please.

I feel safer already! (1)

nicoleb_x (1571029) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366095)

Predator drones overhead and smart drug tests underneath. What a wonderful situation for a freedom loving public. I feel safer already.

Re:I feel safer already! (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366447)

37-year old virgin singing 'I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener.'

OR (4, Insightful)

Charliemopps (1157495) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366101)

or... we could just make pot legal so people wouldn't be smoking these horrifically dangerous "Bath salts" as a replacement. Pots dangers are well known, and relatively benign in comparison to even most over the counter medications. You're far more likely to become dependent on cold medicine and even be killed by it than you are pot. But we continue to treat pot like it's some kind of hardcore child killer.

They are right, Pot is a gateway drug. But only because they made it so. They tell school children its this horrible thing. Bad kids do it. Then the kids find out just how many of their friends smoke it at parties. Holy crap! and then they try it... and it doesn't make them go insane like they've been lead to believe. If they've lied to me about pot, how bad can cocaine be right?

Make it legal to grow. Legal to smoke. Legal to give away for free to someone over the age of 18. Make it illegal to sell. Problem solved and no more bath salts.

Re:OR (1)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366133)

The "bath salts" are/were amphetamine/cocaine substitutes. Not cannabinoids.

Re:OR (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366163)

Make it legal to grow. Legal to smoke. Legal to give away for free to someone over the age of 18. Make it illegal to sell.

And the law enforcement industry can still thrive by locking up dealers for tax evasion. This is a win-win situation.

Re:OR (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366203)

or... we could just make pot legal so people wouldn't be smoking these horrifically dangerous "Bath salts" as a replacement

Bath salts are not a replacement for pot, they are a stimulant that is designed to be a legal replacement for methamphetamine (i.e. no prescription required -- yes, methamphetamine is legal by prescription, and children are sometimes given prescriptions for it). Unfortunately, the common stimulant in bath salts, MDPV, can cause psychotic episodes.

Which is why we should require a prominent warning label. "This product may cause psychotic episodes. Do not use without the assistance of a sober babysitter. Call poison control in the event of an overdose, or 911 in the event of an emergency."

Except that keeping people safe is not our goal in the war on drugs.

Synthetics are worse than the real thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366111)

As long as mere possession of weed remains a felony charge, people will continue making synthetics that are worse than the real thing, reformulating it every few months to get around the local chemical bans. Nobody has ever overdosed on the real stuff (as stupid/mindless as it might make them), but the synthetic alternatives have had more than a few reports of people blowing their brains out to rid themselves of the pain.

I don't know why the last sentence of the article summary here even mentioned the Olympics, because the issue here is clearly about synthetic cannabinoids and not the steroids that are usually involved in Olympics scandals.

Re:Synthetics are worse than the real thing (1)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366525)

Mere possession of weed is not a felony charge. Not unless a state decides for it to be.

If You Were Self-Employed... (1)

zenlessyank (748553) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366113)

...You would not have to worry about such idiocies. Family business USED to be something you inherited from good parents, now it is little dicked mobfuck wanna-be's who cry if they can't have their own way that we watch on television drama sitcoms.

Thank God! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40366135)

We figured out how to thwart "designer" marijuana users. Now we can focus on dealing with more serious issues like banning soda.

Read between the lines... (1)

Genda (560240) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366183)

The DEA is playing wack-a-mole with synthetic cannabinoids and wants to come up with a simple way to outlaw the entire CLASS of drugs that contain anything vaguely resembling a cannabinoid. The problem is that if they use this technique to stomp on this class, it will open up a whole can of worms involving other drugs which are also the subject of synthetic analogs. The problem is these drugs all ping receptors in the brain for naturally occurring chemistry that may or may not be chemically similar. This is just a pop-corn fart away from making a great big unintended mess, that I'm betting Big Pharma might just be able to leverage in its favor. Rather than trying to come up with a magic bullet to prevent people from using something they've been using consistently now for about the last 10,000 years (it was one of the first human cultivated crops), or wasting billions of dollars, man-hours, productive law enforcement resources on this silliness, relax, have a joint, rethink your priorities. There are plenty of bad things out there that you can fail to regulate. Methamphetamines come to mind. Go out have fun, bust bad guys. The whole pot thing was a loser from the start and now that cotton is king again, it shouldn't be afraid of hemp. Really, suck on that skunk, that's a good boy, now leave the buds alone and go play somewhere else... Ta!

Re:Read between the lines... (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366223)

There are plenty of bad things out there that you can fail to regulate. Methamphetamines come to mind

Methamphetamine is legal by prescription, it is prescribe to children, and the production of pharmaceutical grade methamphetamine is well regulated. The problem is that people who want to use it to get high cannot find a legal source, so they turn to illegal sources, which have extremely poor quality control. Much of the damage caused by methamphetamine abuse is caused by adulterants in the drug, leftovers from poorly controlled production.

The obvious answer is to create legal sources for recreational methamphetamine, which have well defined doses, quality, and big warning labels ("This product may cause psychosis. Recreational use of this product is known to cause brain damage. Call poison control immediately in the event of an overdose, or 911 in the event of an emergency.").

Another solution would be... (3, Funny)

Lord_of_the_nerf (895604) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366191)

...to just get a sample of Keith Richard's blood and run a comparison. If he hasn't done it, you don't want it.

Not for Human Consumption (1)

relikx (1266746) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366237)

Compared to THC, which is a partial agonist at CB1 receptors, JWH-018 (and many of its analogues) are full agonists. THC has been shown to inhibit GABA receptor neurotransmission in the brain via several pathways. JWH-018 may cause intense anxiety, agitation, and, in rare cases (generally with non-regular JWH users), has been assumed to have been the cause of seizures and convulsions by inhibiting GABA neurotransmission more effectively than THC. Cannabinoid receptor full agonists may present serious dangers to the user when used to excess.

The war on drugs is insane that up until recently this could get sold at convenient stores and was by definition safer than the Schedule I THC. Marijuana is way safer than any of this fake stuff.

Re:Not for Human Consumption (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366473)

Nonsense. It's part of the grander conspiracy theory to get human test subjects for unsafe chemicals. Outlaw the tested drugs, throw in some untested drugs (yet strangely freely available, so it's 'voluntary'), collect the results, wash, rinse, repeat. This entire society is a bomb on stilts.

Might I interest you in my elephant detector? (2)

Adrian Lopez (2615) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366249)

"The researchers tested their technique on 32 herbal products ... They found that every product contained one or more synthetic cannabinoid; ..."

Sounds like a pretty good reason to doubt the reliability of the test in question.

Simple question... (4, Insightful)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366345)

These synthetic marijuana drugs, found in 'herbal incense,' are mere chemical tweaks of each other, allowing them to escape detection each time researchers develop a new test for one of the compounds. Now chemists have developed a method that can screen for multiple designer drugs at once, without knowing their structures. The test may help law enforcement crack down on the substances.

Why? Do we not have enough people in prison to make it sufficiently profitable for the new privatized penal industry?

Isn't the meteoric increase in worker productivity over the past decades enough for our economic overlords? Is it just to make sure we all know who's boss?

Did you know that the industry-funded legislative group ALEC is behind many of the new harsher drug laws? I really don't understand it. Why is an industry-funded lobbying group so concerned about marijuana, gay marriage, gun laws and keeping the poor, students and the elderly from voting?

Legalize everything. (5, Insightful)

thesandtiger (819476) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366375)

Let people smoke, shoot, drink, or otherwise ingest anything they want. Tax drugs, use part of the tax to pay for the societal costs of drug abuse, and go from there.

Intoxication should be considered an aggravating factor in any crime, and should be made a crime in and of itself in certain situations (see driving under the influence).

Making better tests is interesting in an academic way, and possibly useful for certain professions where sobriety is absolutely essential (law enforcement, for one example), but honestly, who gives a fuck for most anything else? If drug use affects your work you'll get fired in time anyway, and if you do harm to another person while high you're screwed anyway.

I'm saying this as someone who works in public health - the damage done by this kind of prohibition VASTLY outweighs the societal benefit of restricting drug use. There's absolutely no question about it.

Let people do drugs, and let them rot (-1, Flamebait)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366453)

Let people do drugs, and if you have drugs in your system and mess yourself up, you're on your own - no government safety net, no insurance coverage, nothing. Welcome to being homeless, crazy, and dead.

Darwin FTW.

Re:Let people do drugs, and let them rot (5, Insightful)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#40366533)

Fine: But you don't get to go to bars anymore, you're not allowed to go skiing, play football, or anything else that I deem unnecessary to your life which might raise my group insurance plan rates. Also, you have to wear a helmet outside. This is my polite way of saying fuck you and your flawed philosophy.
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