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Chinese Firms Claims It Can Build World's Tallest Tower in 90 Days

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the tower-kills-everyone-in-part-ii dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Even since the current world's tallest builing — the Burj Khalifa in Dubai — was completed, there has been a constant battle to build the world's next tallest building. The current record holder stands tall at 828 meters and took five years to build, but a Chinese company called Broad Sustainable Building aims to smash that record by building the 838 meter Sky City tower, in Changsa, China in a mere 90 days. BSB plans to use prefab building techniques to construct the tower in record time."

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Just like their trains... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367457)

Absolutely nothing can go wrong....

Re:Just like their trains... (4, Interesting)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367499)

Re:Just like their trains... (4, Insightful)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367659)

Wonder who's now living in the identical buildings next to it.

Re:Just like their trains... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40368039)

Am I the only one feeling a bit uneasy about this thread? Some Chinese construction projects are underfunded and of poor quality, therefore all Chinese buildings are crap? Some Chinese products are rip-off of foreign products, therefore all Chinese tech is copied? All Chinamen talk funny therefore all Chinamen dumb?

Maybe I'm just reading too much into it. In this specific case we simply don't know enough about it to come to any conclusion. Occasionally Boeing or Airbus aircraft crash due to shoddy constructing, faulty equipment (that they knew was faulty), improper maintenance due to the airline being cheap and so forth. In that case we look at the nature of the problem and decide if the entire fleet is at risk, and if not happily get on the next flight of an identical aircraft flying a near identical route. Blanket assumptions about all EU/US products do not follow.

Re:Just like their trains... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367987)

First, Vehemently Denied, Then Ridiculed, then Finally Accepted as Self Evident...

Beef up YOUR buildings! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367459)

P90X for architecture?

90 Days ? (1)

JohnHegarty (453016) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367463)

Misleading headline is misleading.

Re:90 Days ? (2)

abhisri (960175) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367757)

Only misleading part is that it will actually last only 9 days. China quality. Exploding toilets and support pillars stuffed with trash! ;)

Re:90 Days ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367997)

iPad?

Jenga! (4, Funny)

Torvac (691504) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367479)

-nt-

Re:Jenga! (2)

DarkOx (621550) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367507)

Well if its anything like their bullet train, yea.

Re:Jenga! (4, Funny)

mister2au (1707664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367701)

Actually more like Tetris

Different pre-formed shapes appear on site and the trick is to slot them in place

Hopefully the bottom floors don't disappear as they are completed.

kinda cheating (5, Insightful)

smash (1351) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367487)

If you pre-fab everything on the ground then its not really "building", more like "assembling".

Re:kinda cheating (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367493)

Same as using libraries instead of writing everything from scratch is cheating right?

Re:kinda cheating (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367529)

No. In civil engineerimng they do something alien called "design" where they spend most of their time. Moving the steel beams around to find where it fits, during construction, is uniquely computer science.

Re:kinda cheating (5, Funny)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367839)

That's because people who order a skyscraper to be built don't call those contracted to design and build it halfway through construction to tell them "Oh yeah, it needs to fly and also double as a ship and a subway station" (which is later clarified to "we need a helipad in the lobby" which itself is finally clarified three months after the deadline, what they meant was "we'd like to make sure there's a second entrance near the 14th street bus stop so employees don't have to walk around the building to get in". Of course, for this to be like software development after each of these change requests they would also demand that work immediately begin on converting the building to the new specs so that by the time it's finished it has wings sticking out from the 12th floor, the basement has a subway tunnel with a large propeller in it and the front desk is placed inside a large hangar).

Re:kinda cheating (4, Informative)

MichaelJ (140077) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367859)

Civil engineers are also held legally responsible and liable if there's a problem, and it should never, ever, fail or fall down outside of extraordinary circumstances. Unlike software which warrants left and right that there is no warranty and if you're lucky you'll get a patch with a bug fix.

Or compare the licensing requirements:
Civil Engineering: get a degree, pass the Fundamentals of Engineering, optionally get another degree, work professionally for a number of years, apply to take the PE exam, take the 8-hour PE exam, if you're lucky enough to pass (most don't), you now have your Professional Engineering license in that state (only) and can sign/stamp documents and plans.

Software Engineering: n/a

Re:kinda cheating (5, Funny)

Evtim (1022085) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367937)

Three engineers were arguing about God.
God is a mechanical engineer, says one (who is, of course, himself mechanical engineer). Just look at the muscles and bones. What symphony of precision, the seamless work of joints, bones, muscles, sinews. A beauty to behold!
No, no, says the other, God is an electrical/electronics engineer. Just look at the nervous system – the myriad feedback and forward loops, the firing of the neurons in the brainenough said.
Chaps, you are both wrong, says the third. God is a civil engineer. Only civil engineer would put a drainpipe in the middle of a recreational area

Re:kinda cheating (1)

sociocapitalist (2471722) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367985)

Not to mention that in China if the building collapsed afterwards those responsible would most likely be shot.

Re:kinda cheating (1)

darkstar949 (697933) | more than 2 years ago | (#40368023)

Software Engineering: n/a

The problem is that most states (and countries for that matter) aren't exactly in a rush to provide some sort of licensing process for software engineers either. IEEE has been working on a Principles and Practices Exam [ieee.org] but until the state boards actually update their procedures to recognize software engineers and mandate some sort of license for critical systems development it is unlikely to gain much traction.

Re:kinda cheating (3, Insightful)

azalin (67640) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367551)

No, but claiming "the programming was done in one week" when you are actually only compiling it and had 2 years in advance to write the libraries and the documentation. It's still a feat when you have to do all the debugging and testing, but not as impressive as the claim tries to make it sound like.
I'll be watching it with interest but probably from a distance of 838+|x| meters.

Re:kinda cheating (2)

k(wi)r(kipedia) (2648849) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367719)

I say it depends on what those libraries, etc., are. I mean, what if we think of the prefab parts as analogous to the software that an open-source developer builds upon? Do we then say that the shiny new program took not just one Summer of Code but three decades starting from the day RMS established the Free Software Foundation?

BTW the collateral damage from a collapse is likely to be less than 838 m. Since the design is presumably modular rather than monolithic, shouldn't it fall more like childrens' blocks than like a wine bottle?

Re:kinda cheating (1)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367829)

I say it depends on what those libraries, etc., are.

Exactly. If you boast that you created a web browser in a weekend, but all you did was make a WebKit wrapper (prefab big building elements), is a whole lot story if the your modules are something like "iostream" (nails, 2x4 planks...).

Re:kinda cheating (1)

azalin (67640) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367999)

BTW the collateral damage from a collapse is likely to be less than 838 m. Since the design is presumably modular rather than monolithic, shouldn't it fall more like childrens' blocks than like a wine bottle?

You are probably right, but as I will probably not be in China during the time of construction, the value of x will probably reduce the difference to a rounding error anyhow.

Re:kinda cheating (3, Interesting)

atrizzah (532135) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367831)

In this case, I'm pretty sure that most of the pre-fabbed parts are specific to this particular building. So the manufacturing time of the pre-fabbed blocks should be considered in the total building time. A lot of software projects have components that are developed as libraries specifically for the project. These certainly would be counted in the development time. That being said, 90 days to assemble the tallest building in the world is still hugely impressive.

Re:kinda cheating (5, Funny)

outsider007 (115534) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367497)

Back in my day we smelted our own ore. And we liked it!

Re:kinda cheating (1)

nstickney (1523161) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367625)

Back in my day we used LEGOs. And we liked it!

...although I suppose that's also only "assembling"...

Re:kinda cheating (1)

Thanshin (1188877) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367691)

Back in my day we started with just an anvil, four copper bars and some booze. And it was FUN!

Re:kinda cheating (1)

Talderas (1212466) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367953)

Where's the magma? There can be no fun without magma.

Re:kinda cheating (4, Insightful)

ThatsMyNick (2004126) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367505)

This how any high rise is build. It is definitely not cheating.

Re:kinda cheating (4, Insightful)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367743)

Is it just me or should building skyscrapers not be a speed trial in any case?

Re:kinda cheating (2)

Ginger Unicorn (952287) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367553)

Taking that logic to it's conclusion, if that building contains any wood they have to factor in the decades it took for those trees to grow. Erecting a building is always a process of assembly of prefabricated elements. You don't sit up some scaffolding baking bricks, laying them as they cool.

Re:kinda cheating (1)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367895)

Of course, but there is still big difference in the size and complexity of the modules. You just have to decide where to draw the line and define what counts as "cheating" and what doesn't.

Ok, if you wanted to go hardcore, I guess you could have a definition where you are not allowed to bring two or more materials attached to each other to the construction site, no pre-treatment of materials (shortening, painting...) and something like that.

Some good opportunities await (2)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367651)

If you can make buildings at the rate they claim with preparation and modular techniques it should make it simple to recover after catastrophes as well. From housing to hospitals.

Create a few universal designs. Store modular components in select locations around the world under the management of the UN or such. Then when disaster strikes; like an earthquake/typhoon/hurricane; and housing or such is needed the items could be shipped. I am not saying it would be easy, but it should be doable and now on a larger scale.

If it reduces costs so much then it could simply be used in poor countries to help house people provided steps are taken not to turn them into centers of urban blight.

Re:Some good opportunities await (4, Interesting)

vivian (156520) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367693)

At a claimed cost of 628,000,000,000 and supposedly being able to house 100,000, it's a bargain too - only 6280 per person. Here in Aus, housing costs somewhere between 50,000 to about 100,000 per person for housing. (Roughly 100000 per bedroom room for a house, on average.)

Re:Some good opportunities await (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367877)

At a claimed cost of 628,000,000,000 and supposedly being able to house 100,000, it's a bargain too - only 6280 per person.

Your math bears witness to quality of the the superior American education system, Sir.

Re:Some good opportunities await (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367881)

Cost is off by factor of 1000. Only 628,000,000. By your post it's 628,000 per person.

Re:Some good opportunities await (1)

GreatBunzinni (642500) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367907)

The cost of construction work, nowadays, is defined by labour wages, not the cost of building materials. Hence, obviously it is more expensive to build something in Australia, resorting to australian labour, than it is to build something in China, resorting to chinese labour.

And let's not even go into the issue of costs introduced by adhering to building and safety regulations.

Re:kinda cheating (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367685)

Yes and no. Nobody else starts from raw trees and raw ore. Everyone is using a degree of prefab.

Meanwhile, construction sites in a city's downtown are a major pain in the ass for both the city and the constructor. If they can pull off a record-sized tower in only 90 days of that disruptions, then that's a hell of a feat that should be looked at closely by everyone.

Re:kinda cheating (1)

GreatBunzinni (642500) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367889)

If you pre-fab everything on the ground then its not really "building", more like "assembling".

If you believe that nonsense then I have news for you: the entire construction industry has been "kinda cheating" for decades now. With steel structures, every single structural element is prefabricated somewhere and only assembled in situ. This is even the case with large projects, such as concrete bridges. Nowadays, there are a hand full of different building techniques which rely on the prefabrication of structural modules somewhere, and bring them on site just to assemble it. Take this [dormanlongtechnology.com] for example.

Like the Empire State Building (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367495)

While it may have taken more than 90 days to build the Empire State Building, the same pre-fab techniques such as off-site fabrication and on-site assembly were used to build that monument to the American spirit.

Everyone scoffs at the Chinese when they boast like this, but there really isn't any particular problem with what they are proposing. Given enough lead time and sufficient raw materials, they should be able to assemble a world-record building in the timeframe specified. Naturally, some leeway may be necessary to account for weather, but other than that, good luck to them.

Re:Like the Empire State Building (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367767)

Not everyone scoffs. It seems to be the americans scoffing. I believe the english went through a similar social paradigm as their empire contracted.

A building that tall in 90 days is difficult (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367873)

I have doubts on building a 1/2 mile tall building in 90 days for any human country in 2012. Building a 15 story building in 4 days is impressive enough, and of economic value. Most buildings do not exceed 1,000 feet, because of rising costs.

Re:Like the Empire State Building (3, Interesting)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367777)

The difference is the Empire State Building is still here decades later. This building will be moldering and falling apart five years hence. I've seen Chinese buildings built while I was in China, moved away, and then come back for a visit years later and was shocked at the deterioration.

Better made from Concrete+Steel+Time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367779)

Well it reminds me of this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196064/Tumbling-tower-China-Amazing-pictures-13-storey-block-flats-toppled-over.html

Because now we have concrete and steel, the structure is better made from concrete and rebar, and I'm not sure I'd like to live in a building thats been put up in 90 days. If there's a snag, I'd rather be sure they fixed the snag and let the schedule slip than just cut a few 'unnecessary' steel joins.

Re:Like the Empire State Building (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367991)

In Australia it would take more than 90 days just to get planning approval.

ERECTED in 90 days would have been more consise (0)

gagol (583737) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367509)

The building technique they use require building the material beforehand and then they simply erect it on site. It is misleading to say it can be "built" in 90 days...

Re:ERECTED in 90 days would have been more consise (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367605)

Chinese are not known for honesty, they are known for cut trough business.

Re:ERECTED in 90 days would have been more consise (1)

bytesex (112972) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367849)

That's what building is, though. You simply have to create a broader definition of what a component is. You don't count the time it costs to create a brick when you just build a house, right ?

Get me out of here! I feel like I'm pupating! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367511)

Bernard: Well, what possible harm could one insane, mutant tentacle do?

Quality? (1)

Quakeulf (2650167) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367519)

Built in 90 days, stays for 90 days?

Re:Quality? (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367897)

yup, just like everything else with a "Made in China" sticker on it = poor quality material & workmanship

Grammar Error (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367521)

"Firms Claims"

Re:Grammar Error (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367549)

Not firms claims its?

progress (3, Interesting)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367525)

Well, from raising a 30 story building in 360 hours [slashdot.org] to erecting an 830 meter tower in 90 days... why not? Sure they can do it, that's what happens in free markets - innovation and competition.

Re:progress (1)

azalin (67640) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367567)

Free markets? In China? *cough*

Re:progress (4, Insightful)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367765)

Of-course, China has much freer market than almost anybody else on the planet, all the businesses that are there, all the people, who moved their investment capital there, all the companies that produce there, you think they are there because China is communist? China is a communist like I am a ballerina.

Also, China to USA is what Germany is to Greece, except Greece cannot print money and USA can, but the rest of the relationship is the same, USA needs China much more than China needs USA. [slashdot.org] Here is one of debates on this [fora.tv] , the people in the audience don't understand it and don't want to hear about it (no surprise, so many are Chinese expatriates)

Re:progress (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367689)

Innovation? In China? *cough*

Re:progress (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367781)

You forgot to check 'post as anonymous' box in your first comment.

Changsha, not Changsa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367541)

The city is called Changsha. Apparently the linked article got it wrong (and thus the summary had it wrong, too, because it was just a verbatim copy), but the CNNgo article it linked to had it right. Go figure...

Yes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367557)

But for how long will it last? Just like the chinese produced stainless steel which rusts?

pound of raw bacon wrapped around my penis (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367563)

and it feels good!

Foundations? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367573)

Is that "90 days from foundations" or "90 days from turf"? The concept art shows quite a fat design with a lot of mass, which in turn needs a good foundation (or the tower won't last for 90 days). And good foundations need time for the concrete to settle.

Imagine - this beasts' foundations dive on one side once the scyscraper is done (or nearly done). I wonder what the chinese equivalent to the warning shout "TIMBER" is...

Re:Foundations? (4, Interesting)

jurgen (14843) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367627)

They pre-fab even the foundation. Seriously. You can see it in this video this video [cnngo.com] of them (BSB) erecting a 30-story hotel in 15 days.

why not? (0)

chittychitty!! (2139420) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367581)

You can get eggrolls, rice, wonton soup, and Szechuan chicken in 5 minutes...

Re:why not? (1)

qu33ksilver (2567983) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367761)

So you claim it to be an instant tower sort of thing, whoa that's cool.. :) These Chinese and their tendency to always do things quickly. (P.S. an intended joke)

I work with Chinese companies a lot, and... (5, Interesting)

DeathToBill (601486) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367589)

... they ALL say it'll be done in 90 days. Right up to 11:30 on the 89th day, when realistically there is still six years of work to do, they'll still insist it'll be done in the next 30 minutes.

We have people fly half way around the world to work on projects. "Will you be ready for us?" we ask as we get on the plane. "Yes!" comes the resounding response. We arrive, discover the project is nowhere near ready, go home again, come back in anywhere from eight weeks to two years when it's actually ready and charge them a hefty chunk of cash for the inconvenience.

Wildly unrealistic schedules and dogged insistence that they're sticking to them in the face of all the evidence is the modus operandi of Chinese construction.

Re:I work with Chinese companies a lot, and... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367647)

Also the modus operandi of most project managers at my company

Re:I work with Chinese companies a lot, and... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367669)

Maybe, but you DO realize that this specific company built this before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwvmru5JmXk&feature=related

Wrong questions (3, Insightful)

SgtChaireBourne (457691) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367707)

You are asking the wrong questions. It's a cultural thing but if you ask a question that can be answered with "yes", that's all you're going to hear. You need to ask open questions. Instead of "is it going to be done on time?, ask "how far have you gotten?" and so forth. Even then it's not guaranteed that you'll get all the info you were looking for.

Re:Wrong questions (3, Insightful)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367773)

It's not a "cultural thing", they're just a bunch of cutthroat bloody liars who never take responsibility for or even admit to failure, and I'm middlingly sick of hearing it excused as "culture, man, you have to understand the culture". It's just plain old deception to keep the funding coming for another month.

IME, the only way to deal with it is to pay for fully QA'd, stamped and sealed results, not development. Apropos to this case, I'd pay for their magical tower in annual instalments after it was put up and stayed up.

Re:Wrong questions (-1, Flamebait)

atrizzah (532135) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367811)

Racist much?

Re:Wrong questions (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40368031)

Race != culture

Re:Wrong questions (2)

Mr. Freeman (933986) | more than 2 years ago | (#40368003)

No, it's not the culture. Sure, you do have to be aware of cultural differences when dealing with other countries, but being 5 years behind schedule is not a "cultural" issue. The situation here is just Chinese businesses being very shady and deceptive in order to get contracts. Remember, these are the same companies that fake reports about the chemical content of their products in order to bypass various regulations and contracts. Given that there's little to no oversight in China and that suing a Chinese company is an exercise in futility this happens a lot.

Re:I work with Chinese companies a lot, and... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367803)

You seriously don't work on construction projects in the US do you?

"Are you done?" "Yes" "Ready for us to come do a check out?" "Yes" "If we have to come back, we're going to charge you a lot of money." "No problem, get out here and do your check out."

Show up, and the wires are still sticking out of the J-boxes. Go home.

Re:I work with Chinese companies a lot, and... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367891)

hey! wait a minute. that's what happens to the software projects that I'm on!

Re:I work with Chinese companies a lot, and... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367903)

I've worked for American companies where all projects were on schedule and completed on time. Of course, those words took on interesting meanings. For example, if a computer system crashed 99% of the time, that didn't matter. Victory was declared based on the 1% uptime.

Mike

90 days... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367643)

...and only a 16% labour fatality rate! Record breakers!

Re:90 days... (1)

toruonu (1696670) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367699)

That's one way to solve the overpopulation I guess...

Oh great! (3, Informative)

oiron (697563) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367653)

Skyscraper index [wikipedia.org] here we come again!

I don't doubt that they can build a tower (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367663)

As a structural engineer, I do not doubt at all that they are able, or anyone for that matter, to put together a prefab tower in 90 days. This is no big deal. For example, in bridge projects it's a terribly common thing to put together temporary structures assembled from tubular steel bars which are about 10-story tall, and there are pre-fabricated steel beams being marketed for this sort of temporary work which are about 20 or 24 meters tall.

And the only reason that these temp structures aren't taller is because in bridge works after about 20 meters the valleys tend to be wide enough so that it tends to be more economical to use other building techniques, such as incremental launch.

What I doubt is that this type of tower is economical or capable of handling the design loads for a specific region. After a certain scale, there are significant economical advantages to be had by optimizing structural elements, particular in steel structures, and "one size fits all" make it impossible to take advantage of this. Moreover, there isn't exactly a lot of demand for temporary skyscrappers. Even in cases where a catastrophy raises the need for temporary housing and infrastructure, you don't need a 1km-tall structure to sort things out.

My main concern is quality assessment and safety. If you are going to build a extremelly specialized and optimized structure intended to house tens of thousands people, you simply cannot rush things or cut corners on safety checks. If some bolts aren't screwed adequately, a lot of people can die. A couple of months ago there was a report on a chinese bridge being inaugurated while its safety railings weren't even bolted to the structure, which has been pointed out by a chinese engineer working on the project. If this sort of rush job is done with such a large structure, we have a calamity waiting to happen.

Re:I don't doubt that they can build a tower (1)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367783)

you assume the Chineese give a shit that people will die.

There isn't good evidence for that assumption, IMHO.

Re:Rome was built faster. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367969)

Hmmm, I thought everyone knew that Rome was built in a day! So the Italians know how to build things faster on a larger scale. That is, a whole city in a day whereas everyone else it trying to build one building in 90 days or less - or is that the whole city in one building going skyward.......

They're mainland Chinese (2)

benjfowler (239527) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367677)

They'll find a way to cheat, they always do.

Reminds me of Big Fat Gypsy Wedding or Michael Carroll.

A rich scumbag will ALWAYS be a scumbag, despite having money (or pretending to have money). It's just that the mainland Chinese and the gulf Arabs haven't gotten the memo yet.

Shema Yisrael! (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367679)

The Almighty will demolish that mandarin tower halfway in construction, so the han cannot scale into heaven and topple his sacred throne. He will then mix up the tongues of han people, so they will start to speak 1000 different, mutually exclusive dialects and that will be the end of the chinese empire. The jewish people will take over the entirety of the chinese land, as the Name promised the entire world to them, his chosen people.

Re:Shema Yisrael! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367913)

Jew, Israeli, and orthodox Rabbi here.
Why do the nuts always fixate on us. 3500 years now, still less than 1% of the world population and we are still treated like we were mythical creatures to either be adored or destroyed but apparently never left alone.
BTW the tower of Babalon was a one off event shortly after the biblical flood not a general prohibition against tall buildings, also we dont want/need/desire China.
G-d please save us from those who call out in your name.

Re:Shema Yisrael! (1)

billyswong (1858858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367929)

Not that China already have a lot of nearly mutually exclusive dialects...

What's the big deal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367737)

If you build it sideways, you can make it as tall as you like. Anybody remember Wayside?

90 days? Doubtful. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367753)

Can they do it? Sure they can! Of course the structure will be doubtful and can the building last long? Probably not! Not unlike most Chinese Products!

Possible trademark dispute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367805)

The Sky Tower in Auckland, New Zealand is owned by the Sky City Casino, I wonder if there will be a trademark dispute over the clash in names.

Re:Possible trademark dispute (1)

ledow (319597) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367819)

Yeah, because "Sky" for buildings is such a unique and non-generic name.

And unless they own the trademark in China too, it's doubtful they could even TRY to do anything about it.

Not Surprising... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367899)

...because the Chinese have long been known for their massive erections...

translation question (3, Funny)

Organic Brain Damage (863655) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367923)

How do you post a Chinese translation of "Hey y'all, watch this!"?

Soil? (4, Informative)

Guillaume le Btard (1773300) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367935)

I live in Shanghai and on the other side of the river in Pudong we have quite a lot of tall buildings (Jin Mao tower 420m, Oriental Perl Tower 468m, Shanghai World Financial Center 492m) so I have no doubt that the Chinese have had some 'inspiration' from western builders on how to construct a tower. But I am wondering how the soil can deal with such a rapid construction of such a tall, thus heavy, building. Where I come from, the Netherlands, we have to put in a pretty good foundation for our buildings or they will sink into the soil. I can imagine that if you want to build such a tall building you would need some more time to allow the soil to solidify more or you'll risk the building sinking...

Skyscraper Index (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367951)

So long China. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyscraper_Index

they said the same thing about the train station (4, Interesting)

Phoenix666 (184391) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367967)

In beijing. The sparkly, new main train station was built in half the time normally required. 6 months later you could see daylight through the cracks in the ceiling. This is the real maoist legacy: make ridiculous claims, pretend you accomplished them, then blame running dog capitalists and rightists when it al blows up.

quoting Aesop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40367975)

Hic Rhodus, hic salta

What could possibly go wrong? (1)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 2 years ago | (#40367981)

Yeah, 'cos that's just the sort of thing you want to do as absolutely fast as possible.

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