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Is Oracle Really Offering 100+ Cloud Applications?

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the for-sufficiently-small-values-of-100 dept.

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Nerval's Lobster writes "Oracle CEO Larry Ellison claimed during a June 6 presentation that the upcoming Oracle Cloud would offer more than 100 enterprise-grade applications. While Oracle certainly intends on offering a broad range of cloud products, at least one analyst has questioned how the company is counting up to that magic '100 applications' total. Meanwhile, another analyst feels that, despite Oracle's commanding presence in enterprise IT, it could face a significant challenge in its fight for the cloud-computing market."

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This comment will receive +5, Insightful (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40377555)

Poop on a turd.

Re:This comment will receive +5, Insightful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40380487)

Come on, only 40 of them are cloud enabled calculators.

The rest are distributed between flashlight apps, cloud enabled fart apps, and cloud enabled dice rolling apps.

Cost concern (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40377723)

Given what Oracle charges for apps, availability in the cloud might only benefit existing customers. Even MS 360 is pricey to the point only value added users can justify it.

JJ

So what if it's not 100? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40377727)

So what if it's not 100? The piece is a 500 word waste of time. Sigh.

Captcha: vomited

Well, let's see... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40377751)

There's MySQL, MySQL+, MySQL Max, MySQL 386, MySQL Lite, MySQL with Bacon, MySQL with jalapeno, Eventum, MySQL with antioxidants, did I say MySQL already?

Re:Well, let's see... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40378015)

Alternatively, there are competent databases such as Postgresql.

Re:Well, let's see... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40378305)

Alternatively, there are competent databases such as Postgresql.

*Somebody* needs to get their snark meter checked out...

Re:Well, let's see... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40382931)

And incompetent ones, like Berkeley DB. Oracle owns that one and has conveniently let it die out by allowing the fanboys and fangirls to waste their time on really, really stupid ideas like "context sensitive filesystems" which never worked anyway while reaping the commercial customer lists.

When I heard the founder of Sleepy Cat Software, which created Berkeley DB, speak on the subject, it took me 20 minutes to stop laughing at what an *amazingly* bad idea it was to imperil your filesystem with that unstable and data eating piece of goat cheese.

Re:Well, let's see... (1)

Unordained (262962) | more than 2 years ago | (#40385111)

FYI, Google has no idea what you're talking about. The thread is OT anyway, but a link would have been nice, so we can laugh with you. Instead it looks like you either misremember, or never knew what you were talking about in the first place.

Re:Well, let's see... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40378129)

There's MySQL, egg, sausage, and MySQL. That's not got much MySQL in it.

Re:Well, let's see... (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 2 years ago | (#40381033)

There's MySQL, MySQL+, MySQL Max, MySQL 386, MySQL Lite, MySQL with Bacon, MySQL with jalapeno, Eventum, MySQL with antioxidants, did I say MySQL already?

The question is - how many apps are they missing? I think "Oracle DB" would have more than 100 variations and licensing terms already, so how many are they leaving out?

Re:Well, let's see... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40394733)

And don't forget those that have Lyn after the name! (Curse you Marky Mark!!! )

99 Cloud Applications (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40377771)

99 cloud applications from Oracle, 99 cloud applications.
Take one down and pass it around, 98 cloud applications from Oracle. ..... (for X=X-1 cloud applications while X>-1)

No more cloud applications from Oracle, no cloud applications.
Go to the store and buy some more, 99 cloud applications from Oracle.

--

By the way, I hate Oracle. I don't like any large software firm for that matter, but Oracle is especially nauseating.

Re:99 Cloud Applications (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40377917)

99 licenses from Oracle, 99 licenses from Oracle.
Take one down, pass her around, 98 licenses from Oracle! ...
No more licenses from Oracle, no more licenses from Oracle!
What can we do, if nothing actually works? Find a company better than Oracle!

Re:99 Cloud Applications (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40380443)

Can I join your I HATE ORACLE club? They seem to take decent products and make them horrible. And I challenge you to find something specific on their website. Oh, and their constantly suing everyone in the valley!

Larry miscounted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40377823)

By my count, they have 102, but I think the East German judge and the French judge scored them lower

Fusion Middleware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40377985)

Maybe they are counting other companies apps that rely on things such as Fusion Middleware since every time one of those is sold, Oracle also ends up getting paid for another license for the middleware.

Since when is the number of applications... (2)

MrBandersnatch (544818) | more than 2 years ago | (#40378117)

a metric useful in judging the viability of a cloud offering? Personally I want to know about things such as ease of use, integration into 3rd party offerings, scalability, pricing etc. *sigh*

Useless PR aimed at boosting the share price a few points, how did this ever make the front page?

Re:Since when is the number of applications... (1)

MrBandersnatch (544818) | more than 2 years ago | (#40378139)

Oh wait, sorry, I forgot that Slashdot has to make money somehow....

Re:Since when is the number of applications... (1)

SDrag0n (532175) | more than 2 years ago | (#40379253)

With Oracle, I generally assume "ease of use" is a 0.... Depending, it can be difficult to get Oracle ODBC drivers installed, much less use anything else they make.

Just my 2 cents though.

People soft (2)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 2 years ago | (#40378157)

Just call each module an app, and call it 'cloud ready'. There is your 100.

mod 3own (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40378199)

o-ps or any of the feel an obligation

Slashdot article with link to ... Slashdot??? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40378331)

Isn't that like a garbage dump opening up its own resteraunt?

Unlikely (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40378341)

I can provision an instance of Salesforce in under five minutes. On June 6th I provisioned an instance of the new Oracle "cloud" and it has yet to be provisioned. Oracle cloud == vaporware.

The Actual List (5, Informative)

sadyoshi (2665811) | more than 2 years ago | (#40378347)

TFA links to the actual list that Oracle claims, why isn't this in the summary so that people can judge for themselves:
http://constellationrg.com/blog/2012/06/oracles-list-100-plus-cloud-applications [constellationrg.com]

I don't see why this is news though. Marketing department chooses a convenient level of granularity to get a shiny number. Isn't that like, all marketing?

Re:The Actual List (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40379095)

At least Heinz was under-stating the case.

They were making more than fifty-seven varieties at the time.

Re:The Actual List (1)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | more than 2 years ago | (#40379127)

It's not news. It's just an underhanded way to get people to view the SlashBI/Cloud sections of Slashdot that no one cares about. They probably noticed that those sections get near zero hits.

Really dont care (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40378949)

Oracle can bite it....

They long ago took over the "Most Evil Empire" title and broke my prediction that CA would graduate to that role.

Number is meaningless (1)

fatp (1171151) | more than 2 years ago | (#40380971)

It is too easy to make up nearly any number one like, by dividing the functionalities into different applications.

BTW, Oracle E-Business Suite (i.e., Oracle Apps) alone has over 100 'applications' according to Oracle's classification.

Different ones (1)

CBravo (35450) | more than 2 years ago | (#40381347)

I guess we expect different applications instead of variations of applications when Or acle makes a call like that.

Well it would hardly be the first time Oracle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40381437)

...made outlandish claims. Like the time they made pretty much the entire Linux community spit-take its Mt. Dew when it claimed it had made an "unbreakable" Linux.

Larry Ellison is a bloviating billionaire who makes crappy software that he is very good at selling (ergo, he's a billionaire). Otherwise, I wouldn't buy much of what he has to say.

Oracle HR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40382233)

My company uses "Oracle HR" for time recording and goals tracking. It turns out Oracle's quality standard for "enterprise grade" isn't all that high...

quantity vs quality. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40383635)

Don't doubt... but its not the quantity, its the quality, and so far Oracles quality is... um... lacking. Ellison is all about compensating for... something... this is a step in that direction.

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