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Ask Slashdot: How To Introduce Someone To Star Trek?

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the trouble-with-tribbles dept.

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First time accepted submitter red$hirt writes "I have a few friends, plus my girlfriend, who I would like to introduce to Star Trek. They do have a general interest to watch it, but I'm not sure what's the best way to start. There are so many series and movies and I would like to pick an order that keeps them interested. My first idea is to start off with a few good TNG episodes, and then let them watch First Contact. What does Slashdot think? I'm sure some of you have introduced others to Star Trek before. How did you do it, and how successful were you? Which particular episodes would you recommend watching for someone who is completely new to all this?"

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Khaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!! (5, Informative)

greg_barton (5551) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392609)

KHAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!

I don't know the best way (3, Informative)

2.7182 (819680) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392619)

But I am pretty sure that showing them the episode "Spock's Brain" would be the worst way.

Brain and brain! What is brain? (2)

Latent Heat (558884) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392731)

OK it's camp, but it is my favorite. The "french-fried brains" look on McCoy's face after using the Teacher helmet: Priceless.

Re:Khaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!! (5, Interesting)

magarity (164372) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392747)

Watch the original series episode that introduces Khan back to back with the movie.

Re:Khaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392861)

And while you're watching that episode, put your brain in naughty mode when Khan is talking to his female interest. I'm not sure the exact wording, but it's something like "I'm glad you came, I hope you decide to do it again". And remember in STTOS they thought that way (Kirk always getting the girl etc...).

Re:Khaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392877)

Is this a Klingon death grawl?

I would suggest turning your bedroom into a romantic scenery and then storm in b*ttn*ked with your Klingon mask.
Shout from the bottom of your lungs 'qamuSHa!' while violently pointing your weapon at her.
Don't mistake 'qamuSHa' with 'qumuSHa' because you are not butchering an bIreQtagh.

Refrain from putting of your mask because the sweat on your head might not really turn on your girlfriend.

Re:Khaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!! (3, Insightful)

kilodelta (843627) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392899)

Indeed - skip the first Star Trek movie and go directly to Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan! My favorite Star Trek movie by far, so much so that the Khan bellow is my ringtone on my phone.

As for series - start off with TOS, then I'd do ST:Enterprise, then ST:TNG, then Voyager and DS9.

Re:Khaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!! (4, Insightful)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393037)

It's fucking hard to get through the campiness of TOS, though.

I mean, Space Hippies [youtube.com] . That's pretty much the best way to make someone never want to watch a Trek show again.

Re:Khaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40393063)

I mean, Space Hippies. That's pretty much the best way to make someone never want to watch a Trek show again.

Oh, Herbert! You are stiff!

Re:Khaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40393077)

Yep, watch The Wrath of Khan. Then you might get them into it enough to watch some more, then they'll find out like the rest of us that Khan was the very best bit of the lot.

Then you can show them something really good like Farscape! Or Babylon 5!

My advice (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392613)

If you want to keep your girlfriend, forget about Star Trek.

Re:My advice (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392945)

Grow up.

Re:My advice (5, Insightful)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393043)

Or find a girlfriend that like Star Trek...

Re:My advice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40393075)

I dunno if that's bad or not. The Finnish girl in Star Wreck [starwreck.com] looks hot. Not bad for a fan-made parody.

What not to! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392615)

Please not Deep Space 9!

Re:What not to! (5, Insightful)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392673)

Why not? I think it's the best. It's pretty much a soap opera in space. Story arcs some tech babble thrown in.

Re:What not to! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392725)

The writing staff got lazy, too many dull 'filler' episodes, just like Voyager.

And, to be honest, Ferengis look stupid and because of that, the show looks dorky as fuck.

Re:What not to! (4, Interesting)

NoSleepDemon (1521253) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392879)

Most of the faults of DS9 are however made up for by the Defiant when it decides to blow shit up in what usually amount to fantastically one sided fights.

Re:What not to! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392839)

It's pretty much a soap opera in space.

That's exactly what I've been telling my dad everytime he tried to get me to watch it.

Re:What not to! (5, Interesting)

poity (465672) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393031)

I think DS9 was the best. It was the most emotionally complex Trek series, and showed a future that wasn't so clean and utopian, with people who weren't so predictable. The introspective and rather cynical view it took of the Federation was by itself enough to elevate it above other series.

I suggest alcohol and food (0, Flamebait)

Eightbitgnosis (1571875) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392627)

This is your best bet for luring them into watching a few episodes

Re:I suggest alcohol and food (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392703)

TNG episode 2: The Naked Now.

Riker: "They were just sucked into space."

Data: "Blown, sir."

-- Ethanol-fueled

Voyager (1, Informative)

Pseudonym (62607) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392639)

Start with Voyager. Seriously. Apart from the odd Q or Barclay episode, it doesn't require nearly as much pre-existing knowledge as any of the other next-gen series apart from the first season of TNG. And the first season of TNG mostly sucked.

Alternatively, you could always start with J.J. Abrams.

Re:Voyager (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392683)

Also Voyager is the worst piece of star trek fiction to choose from, so it can only get better from that. Unless your friends are autistic there is no reason at all to watch Voyager. Star Trek 5 is a better use of their time, hell. Enterprise season 1-3 is better than Voyager.

Re:Voyager (3, Informative)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392893)

Holy fuckballs, do not start with Voyager. That is terrible advice.

The Voyager characters were bland as fuck, the stories were retarded (outside of a few exceptions, Year of Hell [wikipedia.org] comes to mind) and as a committed Star Trek junkie even I had a hard damn time pushing through many of them. I mean, I've read a lot of the novels and some of the comics and enjoyed most of them more than Voyager, and there is a lot of craptacular novels, believe me.

Re:Voyager (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392897)

Yeah right. Voyager sucked.

I thought the first season of TNG was actually not that bad. In fact many of the episodes from later seasons are just "redos" of previous original Star Trek or other scifi shows. Hell some of the later episodes were almost repeats of previous episodes in the same series!

Broken Bow maybe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392641)

Broken Bow ( ENT Ep.1 ) or maybe Trouble with Tribbles?

Re:Broken Bow maybe (1)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392935)

I second Enterprise. It seems to me the only Trek series, after the first one obviously, that wasn't just catering to established fans and really wanted to attract a new audience. The show gets a bad rap, but it really wasn't any worse than most of the shit you see on TV today, and because it's a prequel series it doesn't really require much familiarity with the established canon, as the viewer gets to "discover" the various races that made up the prior series.

The ending of the series leaves a lot to be desired. The series finale is such a piece of crap, it's almost insulting. You've been warned.

TNG Recut (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392645)

Point them to TNG Recut on youtube.

Redshirts (4, Informative)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392647)

Just a plug for Scalzi's new book, "Redshirts" - it's only indirectly about Star Trek, but well worth the read if you want to get into Trek....

Re:Redshirts (2)

jbeaupre (752124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393009)

I was rather disappointed by Redshirts. It started off well. But about 1/2 through, the deux ex machina showed up. And not a very good one. I know that is sort of the point of the book (there are a couple levels of parody). But it made the story arc peak too soon. The rest was a chore.

At least that's one person's opinion. Other Scalzi books I'd happily reread. Not this one.

Schisms (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392659)

TNG - Schisms

Re:Schisms (2)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393017)

Good choice. I think a good episode that really captures the overall "feel" of The Next Generation (and Star Trek as a whole) is The Measure of a Man [wikipedia.org] . Patrick Stewart has gone on record as saying that his performance in that episode is one of the favorites of his entire career, which is saying a lot coming from such an accomplished Shakespearean actor as himself. One of my personal favorites.

Also, The Inner Light [wikipedia.org] . Another amazingly powerful episode that is a must see for Star Trek fans and non-fans alike.

Really, most episodes from season 3-onwards of TNG were good. For a lighter choice, try Data's Day [wikipedia.org] . Data's expression while he's slow-dancing with the holographic partner is priceless.

Odd question. (5, Insightful)

methano (519830) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392663)

People either know all about Star Trek or they don't. If they don't, it's because they don't want to. You'll only annoy them by trying to "introduce" them.

Sometimes I'm glad that I'm old. Sheesh, "Introduce" somebody to Star Trek. What a weird concept.

Re:Odd question. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392851)

Wrong, wrong and wrong.

I, for instance, know very little about Star Trek (appart from the name of the main protagonists), and the only Star Trek movie I have ever watched is the 2009 one (which was okay despite a scenario full of holes).

I'd like very much to know more about its universe but the diversity of series and movies - some said to be really good and other really bad - is kind of intimidating. I'd be really glad if someone would want to introduce me properly to this universe, but sadly, nobody has done it so far...

Re:Odd question. (1)

Sparx139 (1460489) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392953)

Actually, I only caught my first episodes of the show (TNG) last year. I'd like to get more familiar with the show, but I'm wondering where to start as well. There's just so many different series that it makes it difficult to know where to begin

Well... (4, Interesting)

Sasayaki (1096761) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392667)

As someone who introduced my ex to Trek a few years back, and who's still in largely into it despite not being together anymore, I took the simple approach of "show the good, skip the crap".

More specifically, this is what I did:

- Saw Star Trek 2009. Explained beforehand, very briefly, that it was a "darker and edgier reboot" of the original series that for canon purposes took place in an alternate universe. Answer any questions she has ("Why is Spock bleeding green? What is a Romulan? What is Warp?")
- Showed her DS9 and TNG, especially First Contact, since that's one of my favourites, along with Generations.
- Watched some Voyager, some Enterprise, etc. A bit of everything.

And that was it. Again... show the good stuff, skip the crap stuff ("Threshold"? What is that? I am not aware of any episode with that title). It's a show with a huge body of content; there are some gems in there, but there are some poo nuggets too.

Re:Well... (5, Insightful)

Sasayaki (1096761) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392695)

Also, don't fucking go on a massive rant about Subject X. If she asks, "What is Warp?" Just say, "It lets the ship go faster than light." Don't regurgitate the entire Memory Alpha article that you've memorized or possibly helped write.

Re:Well... (2, Informative)

magarity (164372) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392785)

If she asks, "What is Warp?" Just say, "It lets the ship go faster than light."

That's way too technical; the correct answer is: "That's how the ship goes from one planet to another"

way over thinking this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392913)

INTERVENTION:

I hate to break this to you but... Star Trek is not a religion. It is not a sexual fetish*.

Show them the episodes you like, they'll explore further if they want. :END INTERVENTION

* yes. yes...I know. Let's not go there please.

Re:way over thinking this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40393041)

....that's exactly what he just said. Not much of an intervention.

Next Gen Q (4, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392669)

The Next Generation Q episodes are the most demented fun. From Picard waking up in bed after a sexual encounter only to be greeted by Q to my favorite exchange in the final "All Good Things" episode:

Elderly Picard: Q, where's the anomaly?
Elderly Q raises horn to ear: Where's your mommy? Why, I don't know.

Re:Next Gen Q (5, Insightful)

magarity (164372) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392813)

No, while Q was acted well, he was the worst plot device in the entire franchise and is guaranteed to put off any new viewer. Even worse than the holodeck on Voyager.

Re:Next Gen Q (2)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392865)

That seems like a joyless take on some entertaining episodes. Oh well, too each his own.

Re:Next Gen Q (1)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393073)

I'm with you, Q was one of the most entertaining characters on the show. I'd rather watch a Q episode than a goddamned Dr. Crusher episode, that's for sure. I mean, Sub Rosa [wikipedia.org] ...what a piece of shit.

Girlfriend? For how long? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392677)

Seriously? When did "girlfriend" and "Star Trek" become acceptable in the same sentence? Start showing her *any* Star Trek videos and I can guarantee you that you won't have to worry about having a girlfriend any longer.

Why would you? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392691)

It wasn't even that good.

what not to see (1, Insightful)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392693)

Don't let them watch any episodes of Enterprise (with the possible exception of "In a mirror, darkly"). It's the only way to retain your credibility.

Gotta Start with TOS (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392705)

Oddly enough, I've just been watching a few of the first episodes on Netflix - I'd really forgotten how well-done they were, dramatically. "Balance of Terror" might be the best showcase for Shatner - very low-key performance, believe it or not! The structure of the Enterprise crew is also well-highlighted, a feature that fell by the wayside all too soon, unfortunately. "Corbomite Maneuver" is along the same lines, and of course, "Naked Time" is a must-see.

Re:Gotta Start with TOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392815)

I will second the suggestion of TOS. The pacing is really great, the music is excellent, and the focus is 100% on the main characters in a self-contained story. Plus, it is so old that it no longer looks "cheezy", but has become "visually interesting" with all the bright modernist colors.

Meanwhile, the bad 1990s hairdos in TNG have not aged well yet.

Re:Gotta Start with TOS (1)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393087)

Meanwhile, the bad 1990s hairdos in TNG have not aged well yet.

OMFG the perms, I'd forgotten how much they loved their damn perms in the early seasons (I generally skip TNG seasons one and two when rewatching).

Are you serious? (1)

stephanruby (542433) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392709)

Are you serious? If you actually like Star Trek, you should start with the Start Trek series you still like, and stop with the series where you know they've jumped the shark. And I don't think we need to tell you what those are.

The Films? (2)

Keen Anthony (762006) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392711)

Perhaps go with the films? I was never a big Star Trek fan. I preferred Babylon 5. I loved the original films though. In fact, I really have liked every feature film I've seen. Maybe that can be an entry way into the TV series.

Don't bother (3, Insightful)

Charcharodon (611187) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392713)

Don't bother "introducing" anything to them, just simply pop in one of the newer movies (the reboot would probably be the best place to start) or start watching one of the newer series. If they are interested they'll join you and get "hooked". If you force it on them you are pretty much hosed and will never get them to watch any of them again.

The Inner Light (5, Informative)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392719)

Get them to watch The Next Generation episode "The Inner Light." This was by far one of the best hours of television in history. Then maybe "City on the Edge of Forever" from the original series. If those don't hook them, don't bother trying any further, it's a hopeless cause.

Re:The Inner Light (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392763)

The Inner Light was excellent, but it's so different from a typical TNG episode that it might not be the best choice.

Take it a little farther (4, Insightful)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392721)

Marry the girlfriend. Have a child with her. When the child gets old enough, start the child on Star Trek, watching it with you and the wife.

Worked for me. Although, to tell the truth, Valerie watched some Star Trek with me before Stanley came along.

The most recent Star Wars movie (-1)

OutLawSuit (1107987) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392727)

The movie might have been a quasi-reboot but it was still pretty good. Then you can point out how it was actually a sequel and you'd be willing to show them how that could be.

Re:The most recent Star Wars movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392751)

And also point out that despite their similar names, Star Wars and Star Trek are different.

Re:The most recent Star Wars movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392801)

The movie might have been a quasi-reboot but it was still pretty good. Then you can point out how it was actually a sequel and you'd be willing to show them how that could be.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Maybe.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392735)

Farscape first?

Start Rek (2)

danielpauldavis (1142767) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392767)

Save "The Wrath of Khan" for later or last, as it's the best of the "T.O.S." movies ("First Contact" is the best of the "TNG" movies.) Start with "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (star Sally Kellerman shows the early influence). Then merely show the best, while including story-important episodes such as "The Trouble with Tribbles," "A Private Little War," etc. to show the evolution of the Federation's relationship with the Klingons. Then "Balance of Terror," "The Enterprise Incident," etc. for the Romulans.

Introducing to star trek? (1, Funny)

InspectorGadget1964 (2439148) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392771)

Get Scotty to beam them up!

Bad idea...no, worst idea. (1)

tmosley (996283) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392775)

Before doing something catastrophic, like making them watch one of the new movies, watch this: http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-trek/star-trek-first-contact/ [redlettermedia.com]

DO NOT SHOW THEM ANY OF THE NEW STAR TREK MOVIES. PERIOD.

If you want to show them movies, show them the good ones from TOS.

Tribbles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392777)

TOS
The Trouble with Tribbles is a fun episode and establishes Klingons, Scotty's love for the Enterprise
The Gorn one (Arena)
a couple more to get them used to the characters and then Amok Time - When Spock says "Jim!" at the end it's like Nimoy is breaking character but he isn't really, it's just the human half coming out.
Space Seed (the original Khan episode) the Wrath of Khan

TNG
Inner Light - It's self contained, you don't really need to know the cast and their relationships and it's probably the highest rated episode
The Borg episodes
First Contact

Begin at the beginning... (1)

Eggplant62 (120514) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392781)

The best TOS episode for that is The Cage, the pilot with Jeffrey Hunter as Captain Christopher Pike, that didn't quite make it on the network and later was incorporated into the two-part Menagerie. Follow that up with Where No Man Has Gone Before, then Charlie X, then move on through the series from there. If they don't get it with the original series, they'll be lost on the rest.

Depends on which Trek (1)

Tepar (87925) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392787)

Since much of the joy of Star Trek is about the characters, pick the characters you like the best. If you're going with the originals (a good bet since the 2009 reboot, since they're now the new "current" Star Trek), pick a couple character-driven episodes like Amok Time and Space Seed, and then go right to The Wrath of Khan and watch the TOS movies in order. By then, there should be enough interest in those characters to go back and watch more old episodes, and maybe TMP.

If you want to go with TNG, for your own sake, skip the first season. I might start, again, with something really well-written and character driven: season 2's "The Measure of a Man," and then maybe just continue with the episodes from there. There's not much of the series before that is must-watch anyway.

I'd stick to one of those two paths. DS9 is my favorite series, but I think it's better to start with TNG or TOS since they're the most well known.

Depends on the girlfriend (3, Insightful)

fiziko (97143) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392797)

What does your girlfriend like to watch? Start with the episodes/movies that are closest to that. For some people, "Star Trek: First Contact" is the best intro. For others, it's the JJ Abrams reboot, for others it's DS9, etc. "Star Trek: Insurrection" is often referred to as "Star Trek: Date Movie" for good reason; that might be a starting place.

best of both worlds (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392809)

The problem with TNG is that there were so many good episodes... and so many mediocre episodes. And several that started plot lines that were never completed.

I always considered "The Best of Both Worlds" to be a three-parter, including the episode "Family". That might be a good place to start.

Other interesting parings might be "the trouble with tribbles" followed by "more tribbles, more troubles", and "mirror, mirror", "the tholian web", and "through a mirror, darkly".

"Yesterday's Enterprise" was another really good episode.

As far as the movies are concerned, you can easily skip 1, 5, 9 and 10

DS9 (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392811)

I have gotten my very good friend and my girlfriend into DS9. I both had a general interest in Star Trek, and DS9 is my favorite series... that's how I choose. I walked them through the 2 part series premier just so that they get the general storyline and are introduced to all the characters. After that, the next episode I play is "The Jem'Hadar" Season 2, Episode 26. This is when they first encounter The Jem'Hadar / Dominion and sets the course for the rest of the series. It is a very suspenseful and action packed episode. My friend was hooked and after seeing 4-5 episodes into season 3, he suggested that we start watching them from season 1 thru the entire series and we did (that was around 10 years ago). I recently used the same tactic on my girlfriend and we have been watching 1 or 2 episodes at a time, every few days ever since. She's even the one to suggest watching it sometimes! I don't have much advice about the other series. Good luck.

"Trekkies"! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392817)

Make them watch the documentary "Trekkies". Once they see how awesome the Star Trek fan community is, your job will be done!

First things first! (2)

Neutral_Observer (1409941) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392837)

How did you manage to even get a girl in your basement?

San Fransisco! (2)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392847)

Start with Star Trek IV, it's very accessible.

Re:San Fransisco! (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392977)

The save the whales movie? Ugh, might as well watch TOS The Way to Eden: Space hippies!

Re:San Fransisco! (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393051)

Um, no, by 1982 they had figured out how to give Star Trek characters... character. It's a cute movie and, if it's appreciated, opens the door to watch 2 and 3. Okay, it's out of order, but the Star Trek triology is a cinematic classic.

WHAT?!? (1)

humanrev (2606607) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392857)

I have a few friends, plus my girlfriend, who I would like to introduce to Star Trek.

Are you deliberately trying to sabotage your social and sex life?

Give the gift of streaming (1)

utkonos (2104836) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392859)

If you want them to really get into it, buy them a Roku and a gift membership to Netflix.

Select a few episodes that you love (1)

j33px0r (722130) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392867)

Ok, the most important aspect is for you to pick episodes that you like because your enthusiasm will be contagious like the Tarellian plague. Second, you might want to throw in a few silly episodes, something...that...shows...Shatner's...acting...skills... Newer episodes will win for special effects, older episodes will win for cult factor. Good stories are mixed amongst all of the series.

My wife loves all Star Trek except the original episodes which is a bit frustrating because the originals are my favorite. But everyone is different and you can't force someone to like something. Just expose them to it and let their own interests carry them onward where no man has gone before!

DS9 is a soap opera in space (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392869)

DS9 was written as a soap opera in space. My wife found other Star Trek series annoying, but really enjoyed watching DS9 with me.

GO OUTSIDE... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392871)

It's nice outside (In the Northern Hemisphere), go for a bike ride, a hike, a picnic, find things to do OUTSIDE! Sheez.

you lie! (4, Funny)

jjeffries (17675) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392883)

>"I have a few friends, plus my girlfriend"

Oh, c'mon... I stopped believing you right there.

Re:you lie! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392983)

Sad for you...
My girlfriend is actually a trekkie while I'm not ^^

A subject ot great concern (1)

cvtan (752695) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392911)

Are you afraid if you do it wrong something bad might happen?

Speak to her in Klingon... (4, Funny)

multiben (1916126) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392915)

...and nothing else. She will either adapt or leave you.

Start with the best (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392919)

Whichever series you start with (or could do a mixture) start with the most fun/exciting episodes. You already mentioned the First Contact movie, which is great, I like The Wrath of Khan pretty well too. For episodes from series, try

TOS - Shore Leave, Trouble with Tribbles, Balance of Terror, City on the Edge of Forever
TNG - Qpid, The Inner Light, Best of Both Worlds
DS9 - Little Green Men, Whispers, Captive Pursuit, Rocks and Shoals, ShadowPlay, The Jem'Hadar,
Enterprise - the pilot episode

Personally, LGM and Tribbles should work for just about anybody, I think.

start with the original series (4, Funny)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392921)

The one where Vader hacks off his son's hand with a laser sword.

Drinking games ... (3, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392933)

Don't foist too much of the geeky stuff on them, have fun with it ... drinking games!

Every time McCoy says "dammit", everybody drink. Every time Spock says "fascinating", drink. Every time Kirk gets his shirt off, drink. Every time an un-named red-shirt gets killed, drink. Every time Uhura says "scanning all frequencies", drink.

Of course, if you're watching next gen, any time Wesley saves the day, they mention tachyons or other particles with magic properties, or Deanna Troi wears the cheerleader outfit, or Warf drinks prune juice ... drink.

But, in the end, maybe just let sleeping dogs lie ... your friends may never really appreciate your beloved Trek, and in the end may decide it's not something they like. It isn't everybody's cup of tea.

Just keep in mind... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392941)

Keep your girlfriend very, *very* far away from any of the TNG movies.

I'm actually introducing it to my sister, and I'm just going to show her episode 1 of TNG. It's a good episode and it explains the concept very well.

Real Star Trek or the Crap? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392955)

If you want them to know "real" Star Trek, you need to introduce them to TOS, TNG and the first handful of movies. Anything written, directed, or at least approved by Roddenberry.
Voyager made a solid attempt to follow Roddenberry's vision, but his vision has a very select audience, and so we have the new crap that isn't even in the same genre as what Roddenberry created.
DS9 was an attempt to compete with Babylon 5(a futurist soap-opera).
Enterprise was a reboot that couldn't figure out what to do with itself. And ended up following a bad formula(series turned never-ending mini-series).

Roddenberry wrote character-driven morale plays based in a near-utopian science fiction.

The latest movie and it's upcoming sequel are space fantasy action adventures.
As stated, they aren't even in the same genre and as such it upsets me to seem them rape Roddenberry's dream like that.

As a space fantasy action adventure film, Star Trek(2009) wasn't a bad film. It just wasn't a Star Trek film(and neither was First Contact, for that matter). In fact, I'd say that I wish Lucas had done that good with the horrible excuses for films that he recently did(which were also space fantasy action adventure films[I'm referring to the prequels, for you slower readers]).
You can call me a purist or whatever you want, but the fact is that they changed the genre in an attempt to appeal to a broader and dumber audience. At that point, it was no longer Star Trek to me.

- end of line

Everything (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392971)

Star trek is pretty standalone from series to series. The movies would need back material from the specific series. Other then that show them the first show from each and keep watching the series that they liked from the introduction. Chronological probably would work best for continuity but really isn't needed.

First... (2)

Un pobre guey (593801) | more than 2 years ago | (#40392979)

The first rule of introducing Star Trek to people who have never seen it is: Do not introduce Star Trek to people who have never seen it.

The second rule of introducing Star Trek to people who have never seen it is: Do not introduce Star Trek to people who have never seen it.

DS9 - S06E19 - In The Pale Moonlight.avi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392981)

This is the episode that got my wife addicted to Star Trek.

Having recently been introduced to Trek... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392985)

After years of avoiding Trek I told my girlfriend I'd watch. The caveat is I wanted to begin at the beginning.

I'm really enjoying it. Currently in third season of Original, moving closer and closer to the movies.

Now then why? Well, what eventually got me interested in Trek was learning about how groundbreaking it was when it first started. TNG may have been a better product, but I feel it wasn't as cutting edge.

Live Performance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40392993)

Dress up as Admiral Kirk and lip-sync to William Shatner's first album.

WTF???? (1)

inode_buddha (576844) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393007)

You sound like yer trying to introduce them to yer religion or something that actually matters.

ST:TOS - best 5 and worst 5 episodes (1)

mfnickster (182520) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393011)

Best:

1. City on the Edge of Forever
2. Balance of Terror
3. The Trouble with Tribbles
4. Devil in the Dark
5. A Piece of the Action

Worst:

1. Spock's Brian
2. The Omega Glory
3. The Way to Eden
4. Patterns of Force
5. A Piece of the Action

War Without End (1)

notadragon (558853) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393023)

Start with that, explaining the characters and sketching the history of their relationships between scenes, as well as filling in details from Babylon Squared.

Then go back to season 1. Skip infection, fast-forward through the mutai in TKO. You'll both be hooked until at least the end of season 4.

Marry her first (1)

dlb (17444) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393025)

You'll be out of luck once the tribble is out of the bag.

Three Words (1)

Otis B. Dilroy III (2110816) | more than 2 years ago | (#40393071)

Three words. "Balance of Terror" Frightened me as a six year old. It still does.
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