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Reject ACTA, European Parliament Trade Committee Recommends

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the we-are-not-amused dept.

Piracy 24

Qedward writes "The European Parliament's trade committee, INTA, voted on Thursday not to postpone a crucial parliamentary vote on the controversial Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. The committee also decided, by 19 votes to 12, to recommend to the Parliament that the trade deal be rejected. INTA is the lead committee examining the international agreement, and its recommendation will carry weight with the rest of the Parliament. The Parliamentary plenary vote on the treaty is now scheduled for July 3."

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this depends on honesty (2)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 2 years ago | (#40396791)

If they vote in secret, it won't make much of a difference what they are willing to state publicly - depending on if this is more than a rumor or not:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120616/02302019360/acta-not-dead-yet-supporters-make-final-push-eu-approval-may-seek-secret-ballot.shtml [techdirt.com]

Re:this depends on honesty (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40396869)

It was the European Commission who urged the parliament to vote in secret. The European Commission is pushing ACTA, and the parliament is standing up against them. In the press conference after the vote, MEP Amelia Andersdotter of the pirate party actually slammed the commission for trying to interfere with the democratic process at the European Parliament.

This is a great day for European democracy.

Re:this depends on honesty (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40397595)

It was the European Commission who urged the parliament to vote in secret.

Both the parent and the grand parent are wrong.

First of all, the request for a secret vote was about the vote that took place today, in the INTA (trade) Committee. It's not about the plenary vote, which cannot be secret.

Secondly, the initiative to make the vote secret came from a number of pro-ACTA members of the European Parliament, not from the Commission.

Re:this depends on honesty (1)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 2 years ago | (#40398679)

Ah, thank you. I tried to explain that it was "if this is true" (depending on if this is more than a rumor or not) because I didn't quite know the situation entirely.

Re:this depends on honesty (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40397873)

well, all I can say is: don't count your huehner before it hatches.

Re:this depends on honesty (3, Insightful)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 2 years ago | (#40397223)

If they do vote in private and approve ACTA, despite the Trade Committee's recommendation, I will be writing to my MEP questioning why I should keep him in his seat come the next election, and not spend my time and energy seeing that he is ousted at the first opportunity.

Trust is earned. If I can't trust my representatives, then I need new ones.

Re:this depends on honesty (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#40397583)

Trust is earned. If I can't trust my representatives, then I need new ones.

My friend, you're going to need lots of new ones.

Re:this depends on honesty (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 2 years ago | (#40397751)

My friend, you're going to need lots of new ones.

If getting Rage Against the Machine to 2010's Christmas No. 1 has taught us anything, it's that all that is required to make changes is organised protest. Hundreds of thousands of people were willing to spend £0.99 buying that track on iTunes, buying the album in stores etc. just to ensure that generic Britain's Got Idol Pop Factor artists wouldn't, all because one guy started a Facebook group.

"£1 to keep ACTA out of Europe" with the donation proceeds going to coffers of parties or representatives who opposed ACTA, or to cover the fees of professional speakers on the subject, media coverage, across many countries could see real change happen.

Re:this depends on honesty (2)

digitig (1056110) | more than 2 years ago | (#40398493)

If getting Rage Against the Machine to 2010's Christmas No. 1 has taught us anything, it's that all that is required to make changes is organised protest. Hundreds of thousands of people were willing to spend £0.99 buying that track on iTunes, buying the album in stores etc. just to ensure that generic Britain's Got Idol Pop Factor artists wouldn't, all because one guy started a Facebook group.

It taught us that we could replace one single released by Sony Music Entertainment with another single released by Sony Music Entertainment. In other words, even if we tackle the branches, it does no damage at all to the tree.

Re:this depends on honesty (2)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | more than 2 years ago | (#40397681)

Why does such a thing as a secret ballot [europa.eu] even exist in what is supposed to be a democracy? Democratic controls in Europe are tenuous at best, but at least we can see how the guys we voted into office are voting. Except when they don't feel like being held accountable, apparently (only 1/5th of MEPs need to agree to voting in secret)

I'm a pro-Europe constituent, but it's crap like this that casts serious doubts on the way we've implemented "Europe".

Re:this depends on honesty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40406563)

A secret ballot in a deocracy means treason

Yoda headlines write, hmmMM? (5, Funny)

MrDoh! (71235) | more than 2 years ago | (#40396949)

Odd it's written the way it was. Luckily, everyone on this site will understand Yoda speak.

Re:Yoda headlines write, hmmMM? (1)

TeRanEX (916440) | more than 2 years ago | (#40397143)

Odd it's written the way it was. Luckily, everyone on this site will understand Yoda speak.

Best comment of the day :)

Re:Yoda headlines write, hmmMM? (3, Funny)

Thanshin (1188877) | more than 2 years ago | (#40397227)

Odd it's written the way it was. Luckily, everyone on this site will understand Yoda speak.

Best comment of the day :)

The first part only. The second sentence uncomprehensible was.

Re:Yoda headlines write, hmmMM? (2)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 2 years ago | (#40397401)

Confused you are? Translate I will:

Understand Yoda speak, everyone on this site will.

Re:Yoda headlines write, hmmMM? (2)

Brucelet (1857158) | more than 2 years ago | (#40397299)

"'Quote', speaker says" is pretty standard English syntax...

Re:Yoda headlines write, hmmMM? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40398333)

Yoda headlines write, hmmMM?

Was that an attempt at Yoda speak?

Try: "Wrote headlines, Yoda did"

(Verb target-noun, actor join-verb)

Re:Yoda headlines write, hmmMM? (1)

eepok (545733) | more than 2 years ago | (#40399195)

Checked for Yoda reference, leaving satisfied.

obviously (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40397107)

the system works???

I read this as... (1)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | more than 2 years ago | (#40397537)

...12 people need to be fired.

ACTA still pushed, but contingencies already there (2)

CanEHdian (1098955) | more than 2 years ago | (#40398439)

In Europe there's new "service pack" for IPRED, things like the INDECT program, etc. etc.

For North America and Pacific Rim, there's TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership)

Don't think for a minute that the demise of ACTA changes anything.

Regulatory Capture (2)

AnalogDiehard (199128) | more than 2 years ago | (#40398911)

What worries me more is regulatory capture [wikipedia.org] . US corporations have been infiltrating federal agencies (FDA, EPA, ICC, FCC just to name a few) to place cronies in top positions who are sympathetic to the corporations rather than serving the public.

Of course the R/MAAFIA would need huge $$$ resources to do this on an international basis and we should be boycotting them to prevent them from using sleazy underhanded tactics to accomplish their greedy evil plans of world domination (look how they purposely shut out public review of ACTA/SOPA).

Not knowing the election/appointment process of the international agencies, just how vulnerable are they to regulatory capture?

Hurray * (1)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | more than 2 years ago | (#40400477)

* The weasels are already crafting Son of ACTA. They will never stop.

12 Traitors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40401523)

Who are the 12 traitors? Names please.

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