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Reddit Cofounder Says Site Was Built By a Horde of Fake Accounts

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the setting-the-tone dept.

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derekmead writes "How, exactly, did Reddit get so big? Well, according to Reddit cofounder Steve Huffman, in the early days the Reddit crew just faked it 'til they made it.' In a video for Udacity, Huffman describes how the first Redditors populated the site's content with tons of fake accounts. These days, with the site's users are wary of people using expendable accounts to try to seed their own content. But early on, Huffman said that using fake accounts driven by the founders was key to building the tone they wanted to the site. Early on the Reddit crew could shape the discourse of the site in the direction they wanted, and as the real user base grew, those standards held allowing the fake accounts to fade away."

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Le first post (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405031)

You don't say

Simulation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405033)

Well, that's pretty much how market research works, too.

Re:Simulation (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405057)

Considering they're owned by Conde Nast, a company that benefits almost solely from market research in the form of magazine advertisements you are correct sir.

The funniest part is all the Redditors giving away all that market research for free like a bunch of tools.

Re:Simulation (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405359)

Yea, I mean its not like the owners of Slashdot NASDAQ: GKNT have any desire to monetize their user base at *all*...

Fake it 'til you make it (4, Interesting)

c0lo (1497653) | about 2 years ago | (#40406055)

I hear that sex life is like this as well. Can anyone confirm please? </grin>

Who says they stopped? (5, Insightful)

cephalien (529516) | about 2 years ago | (#40405043)

Been to r/circlejerk, lately? :)

Either way, who cares. If it hadn't taken off, they'd just end up as a bunch of weirdos talking to their multiple personalities. But it did, and the same tactic is used all the time - ever see a single dollar bill in a tip jar? Priming isn't new.

Re:Who says they stopped? (5, Funny)

girlintraining (1395911) | about 2 years ago | (#40405199)

ever see a single dollar bill in a tip jar? Priming isn't new.

Well, I have.. I took all the other bills out when the cashier had his back turned. :D Everything I learned, I learned from Batman movies.

Re:Who says they stopped? (4, Interesting)

DerekLyons (302214) | about 2 years ago | (#40405213)

ever see a single dollar bill in a tip jar? Priming isn't new.

Yep. At least according to local legend, when the built the first Costco they had the employees park close in and move their cars several times a day - to create the illusion of a busy parking lot.

Re:Who says they stopped? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405389)

Not too much different than a restaurant with windows on a busy sidewalk seating people in tables near the windows if business is slow, to make the restaurant at first glance look active...

Re:Who says they stopped? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405529)

Not too much different... if the people sitting by the windows are made of cardboard. Reddit was created with totally fake accounts. And by the looks of it, still populated with fakes.

Re:Who says they stopped? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405409)

Ever see a single dollar bill in a tip jar

Ever seen a single dollar bill in a bums cup?

Okay that doesn't make sense but you got me thinking.

Re:Who says they stopped? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40406321)

ever see a single dollar bill in a tip jar?

LOL! I thought my co-workers and I came up with that on our own. I suppose that's stupid, but I'm guessing millions by now have independently thought up the exact same idea. Funny, how ideas that work keep cropping up in our society over and over without anyone ever evangelically spreading them

Re:Who says they stopped? (5, Funny)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 2 years ago | (#40406417)

> Been to r/circlejerk, lately? :)

You mean there is a difference from reddit? ;-) /me ducks

Re:Who says they stopped? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40407033)

r/depression was really helpful to me. At least, I'm still alive because of them.

Re:Who says they stopped? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40406985)

How about r/niggers?

http://www.reddit.com/r/niggers

Re:Who says they stopped? (1)

Gideon Wells (1412675) | about 2 years ago | (#40407039)

That reminds me, my grandmother used to have a saying "It is bad luck to buy a coin bank without anything in it". In hindsight, I think she just liked tricking people into thinking they suckered her out of potential money. Usually it was just a few pennies or old washers she picked up.

Ask yourself... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405049)

Am I real?

Re:Ask yourself... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405131)

The answer is clearly no.

Re:Ask yourself... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405391)

Or maybe that's just what they want you to think and I really am real.

Re:Ask yourself... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405635)

is the cake a lie?

Re:Ask yourself... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405405)

How can you say that when you don't exist?

I knew it (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405059)

Everyone on Facebook and LinkedIn is fake too.

Ahhh.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405063)

...so my suspicions about using Reddit for anything WERE founded. Glad to know I could see that then.

Re:Ahhh.... (4, Informative)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | about 2 years ago | (#40405865)

Given that they are now a top-100 site, or close to it, it would be pretty stupid to infer anything about Reddit's current user base from the tactics they used in their first few weeks.

They all do it. (0)

Titan1080 (1328519) | about 2 years ago | (#40405073)

I heard this is also how World of Warcraft subscriptions stay so outrageously high.

Re:They all do it. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405097)

I heard this is also how World of Warcraft subscriptions stay so outrageously high.

reference please?

Re:They all do it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405297)

I'm sure that the FTC would frown on falsifying data given to shareholders.

I somehow doubt that there are a sizable number of WoW accounts that are just opened by Blizzard themselves.

Re:They all do it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405537)

Probably not, but I know a few guilds that are staffed primarily by dupe accounts. I.E. people playing 5-10 accounts at once.

Re:They all do it. (3, Insightful)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | about 2 years ago | (#40405835)

People do it all the time, but from the perspective of Blizzard's bottom-line it isn't a huge deal. That person still pays for each of the accounts, so the only real difference is that unlike with 5 people (each with one account), all 5 accounts could disappear at once if the person quits. That is a downside, but not enough that it merits bothering much with, imo.

Re:They all do it. (1, Insightful)

kenwd0elq (985465) | about 2 years ago | (#40405841)

Duplicate ACCOUNTS? Unlikely; you have to PAY for accounts. But each real cash-paying player may have up to 50 different ALTernate characters. You just can't have all of them online at once.

Re:They all do it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40406059)

Multi-boxing has always been common thing in MMOs, for some people if they can justify $14.99 a month for the majority of your entertainment $44.97 doesn't seem to bad ever. It is becoming even more common now that the F2P model is really taking off the barrier to entry is lower to do so.

shocking (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405195)

the biggest collection of self-important douchebags on the internet was started using self-important douchebaggery?

never saw that coming.

Re:shocking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405231)

We're talking about Reddit, not Slashdot.

Re:shocking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405269)

Slashdot is small potatoes. this is maybe the 10th or 11th largest collection of self-important douchebags

Re:shocking (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40406367)

Fuck you gay ass niggers

Matchmaking sites do the same thing (5, Interesting)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | about 2 years ago | (#40405219)

You can buy a turnkey matchmaking site, complete with a few thousand profiles to get things going. These profiles will even send messages to your "real" users. You can toggle a switch to choose if your users have to pay to see the message, pay to reply, or whatever. There's nothing wrong with what reddit did, even if it went against their own terms of service. What's the phrase..."by any means necessary".

Sentence no parses (0)

neminem (561346) | about 2 years ago | (#40405221)

Quoth the top post: "These days, with the site's users are wary of people using expendable accounts to try to seed their own content."
Would someone please explain to me how I'm supposed to parse that sentence? I'm not seeing any way of making it grammatical.

Re:Sentence no parses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405369)

Spoken with the pompous pedantry of a true redditor. o_O

Re:Sentence no parses (2)

neminem (561346) | about 2 years ago | (#40405423)

I'd like to say I've never been to reddit, but that's no longer true: I quite enjoyed Mr. Skullhead's AMA thread (Skullhead being one of the creators of KoL; I only went to reddit, and for that matter, only learned what "AMA" meant, because Skully announced it to the whole kingdom that he was doing one.)

Haven't been back since, though. Anyway, since when is requesting that sentences be grammatical English, a sign of pomposity? (Pedantry perhaps. Though, I think of myself as a staunch descriptivist!)

Re:Sentence no parses (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | about 2 years ago | (#40406277)

Really? Your english skills are so bad you can't pull the obvious meaning from that? You can't work out a word to drop to handle the author changing their train of thought in the middle?

I guess my X skills are worse than your English skills since clearly X must be your first language.

In other news... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405233)

A Nasdaq cofounder admitted today that their site was built by a horde of fake accountants.

How is this a surprise? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405261)

The Reddit groupthink is pretty overpowering. I wouldn't be surprised if there are still a horde of fake accounts designed to upvote politically favored things and downvote badthink articles right into the memory hole.

Re:How is this a surprise? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405307)

It's likely what Conde Nast wants people to think since they own the site.

Not really new news (2, Informative)

AEton (654737) | about 2 years ago | (#40405277)

I thought this was interesting when I read it in a news.ycombinator.com post from 2010 [ycombinator.com].

Re:Not really new news (2)

Johann Lau (1040920) | about 2 years ago | (#40406491)

you went through the trouble of finding that post (which has zero replies and therefore doesn't indicate any discussion having taken place btw)... just so you can show off how little this interests you? hahahaha.... yeah, hackernews. *pats head*

This is news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405321)

How is this news? I thought this was common knowledge? This has been generally known for YEARS -- and I don't even use Reddit.

So Reddit was populated entirely by sockpuppets? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405333)

Well, that explains why bonch [slashdot.org] likes it so much.

Re:So Reddit was populated entirely by sockpuppets (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405371)

Ok, we get it, you have a giant hard-on for this bonch guy. We don't need to hear about it every Slashdot article.

Re:So Reddit was populated entirely by sockpuppets (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405463)

Hey bonch. Haven't seen you in a while. Thought maybe your head got so stuck up your ass you'd suffocated. Oh well...

Re:So Reddit was populated entirely by sockpuppets (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405797)

Actually, bonch and his sockpuppets are remarkably effective for slashdot user engagement. A first post which is an obvious troll can generate a reply chain of 50-60 responses, even on a 'boring' topic that might otherwise get under 100 normal replies. So there is the argument for having users who can stir the pot.

just another flash in the pan (1)

Stalyn (662) | about 2 years ago | (#40405341)

With this new web 3.3 society it seems people get intensely focused on one site only to migrate to a newer site. Remember Digg? Remember Slashdot? Reddit will get replaced, it's only a matter of time. For me I'm going back to usenet and gopher.

Re:just another flash in the pan (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405375)

I preferred Web 3.11 for Workgroups instead.

Re:just another flash in the pan (5, Funny)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 2 years ago | (#40405419)

With this new web 3.3 society

You must have some kind of pre-release. I'm still on web 2.0.4-RC2. I think the 3.x series has more we- scale techonlogies like nosql and cloud. That will allow us to leverage javascript on every teir to make a thicker thin client with rich apps using HTML6 technology with XML for unstructured social tags. This is perfect for enterprise.

I'm looking forward to the upgrade.

Re:just another flash in the pan (4, Insightful)

horza (87255) | about 2 years ago | (#40405771)

Digg was destroyed by its owner. Slashdot and Reddit survive by... well doing nothing. How long did Slashdot go with it's appalling mess of code? And the moment they tried to clean things up including the interface... nothing but complaints! Sometimes if it ain't broke don't fix it (except secretly behind the scenes). Hell, I live in France where fax is still more respected than email.

The only reason Slashdot is dying is dilution. Nobody wants to watch TV, we don't have time, and the previous poor quality of submissions and editing was border-line acceptable as it served as a trigger-point for a lively comments thread but the pollution of slashvertisement by timothy etc makes reading bitching threads tiresome.

Getting momentum is tough. I don't think Slashdot or Reddit are going anywhere for now. However as the spectacular demise of Digg shows, things can change pretty quickly.

Phillip.

Same with their up/down voting (5, Interesting)

LulzAndOrder (2667597) | about 2 years ago | (#40405349)

Still today, if you pay attention, you can tell that the tone of the site is maintained by editorial up/down voting. I know, because my tone they hate and it consistently gets one downvote. Not a lot, just the two needed to make it negative. Then if people reply to me, that discussion is not manipulated, but that comment that started my thread sticks with the negative one. It happens over and over. Regular folks can swoop in and pour more ups or downs, but more often than not, there is a "first psas" (ha ha First!) that zooms through right away and keeps the 'jerk tone pristine. Used to be that way on Slashdot too, you can tell by how quickly the needle moves to where it "wants" to be. I don't know any more, I don't pay attention or post.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (1)

Johann Lau (1040920) | about 2 years ago | (#40405385)

hah, that's nothing. try hackernews.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405637)

Its not really a secret that the Ycombinator insiders have supermod powers. They also hellban a lot of people. Relevant because they funded Reddit and there's a big crossover.

In ye olden days, Slashdot used to have users with infinite points (and perhaps they still do?)

Re:Same with their up/down voting (5, Insightful)

Johann Lau (1040920) | about 2 years ago | (#40406595)

I don't mind stuff getting voted down, any reader worth their salt reads at -1 (or highlights text on HN) anyway. But hellbanning for fuck all? Slowbanning for even less, for basically "not cheering instantly" --- wow haha. I'm a potty mouth, and I can see how my first accounts were expelled, but seriously, from then on I tried to behave better, but just for disagreeing or pointing out hypocrisy --- BAM, slowban, then log out and you realize your posts don't even show up for anyone. It's so petty and stupid it's hilarious. "Spammers and trolls" my ass -- that's a spineless echo chamber if I've ever seen one. And they even call themselves hacker news of all things.

Oh well, fuck these clowns. It kinda made me realize how good slashdot is all over again (you can say what you want about it, but at least it's not squeamish and deceptive); I'm just "ranting" about it here because well, I can't do it there :P

Re:Same with their up/down voting (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405387)

Maybe you're just an asshole and, indeed, nobody cares about what you have to say.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405469)

Augh, I'm out of mod points, so everybody look at this reply and mentally add +1 Insightful. Everybody should shut the fuck up about 10 times a day and ponder quietly to themselves "Maybe I'm just an asshole?" Do not continue posting on the Internet until you can demonstrate to yourself (to at least 2 sig figs) that you are not.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405543)

Please take your own advice.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40406041)

you sound like such a conceited asshole.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (1)

steelfood (895457) | about 2 years ago | (#40405559)

The +4 Interesting mod on GP says otherwise.

It's one thing to downmod comments because they're not constructive towards the discussion. It's altogether another thing to downmod individuals completely (though it happens all the time, in the form of credibility in real life, and karma on /.).

Still, I expect even trolls have interesting things to say once in a while.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (1)

craznar (710808) | about 2 years ago | (#40405801)

When you have +2000 over a week, then -4000 in one day, it is hard to imagine it has anything to do with what I'm saying.

I am just not that important.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (4, Interesting)

ffflala (793437) | about 2 years ago | (#40405447)

I know, because my tone they hate and it consistently gets one downvote. Not a lot, just the two needed to make it negative . . . . more often than not, there is a "first psas" (ha ha First!) that zooms through right away and keeps the 'jerk tone pristine.

I'm curious: how would you characterize your "tone"? Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but it sounds like you're describing your own tone as that of a jerk.

If that's the case, it just sounds like effective & efficient modding.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405509)

I'm curious: how would you characterize your "tone"?

He probably means that he's not a liberal smugfag. Default reddit is the butt-baby of John Stewart and Keith Olbermann.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405903)

Maybe he doesn't like kittens?

Re:Same with their up/down voting (1, Interesting)

LulzAndOrder (2667597) | about 2 years ago | (#40405911)

you did read it wrong :) but plenty of people do think i'm a jerk, and plenty of people don't.

I wrote 'jerk with an apostrophe as a shortening of circlejerk, meaning the site likes its own circlejerk tone, and tries to maintain it.

They downvote me because of the following: I read sites like these for learning and for humor. Most of the time, i just lurk, or really, just read along enjoying the jokes, learning here or there, and ignoring the noise. If I agree with what's being said, why comment, right? However, when somebody says something that is both wrong/uneducated, and I can tell it's emotional, bigoted, and antithetical and intolerant of things I believe in, then I get motivated to set the record straight in a way that "does not suffer fools" (yeah i realize that's not very grammatical, im lzy). As an example, I think the various Occupy movements are retarded, which is ok, it's ok to be retarded, but coupled with their venom or selfrighteousness...

I get plenty of positive karma for many things I write (i'm pretty smart and pretty well educated); karmawise I'm way net positive; and I participate in friendly back and forths with people I disagree with. However, if I "put an uneducated slob in his place", that collects a -1, and very quickly. If it were reader passion that was driving it, you'd expect more downvotes over time as more people see it, and you'd expect more downvotes on the rest of the thread. But for a certain kind of post that I make to repeatedly and quickly zoom to it's final number, and for a it to consistently be the "hinge" of a subthread means it's not governed by Poisson arrival times, and it's not passion. (clever eh, neither passion nor Poisson) My humor often gets upvoted, my informative posts often get upvoted (still talking about reddit here) but my tart rejoinders get a very precise treatment.

And btw, I rarely write stuff like this, because when i figure out a good indicator that something "is a lie", why teach the liar how to improve? Some of you are thinking "oh, like reddit cares what it says in this thread"... believe me, they are poring over it.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (4, Interesting)

ffflala (793437) | about 2 years ago | (#40406403)

Well I can think of a few simpler explanations for your experience than your claim, but I believe that you'd just find them insulting and it would shut down this exchange. So in the hope of being constructive, I will suggest an slight tweak to your approach. Try this for a week or so, and if you still run into the immediate -1 mods. If you do? Well there goes my theory, maybe you're onto something. But if you find that the downvotes disappear (as I suspect they will), well I'll leave it to you to draw your own conclusions.

(W)hen somebody says something that is both wrong/uneducated, and I can tell it's emotional, bigoted, and antithetical and intolerant of things I believe in, then I get motivated to set the record straight in a way that "does not suffer fools"

It's this shit right here that sounds to me like prime downvote bait. Here's the suggestion: next time you see something both wrong/uneducated, something that is emotional, bigoted, antithetical, and intolerant of the things you believe in, try a minor variation on your approach to setting the record straight. No need to "suffer fools" as you put it, but just stick to disputing the something they posted. Do not --no matter how strongly a negative reaction it provokes in you-- belittle, embarrass, or try insult the *person*, even by implication (such as "only idiots would think that.") Whatever you own conclusions about the person might be, don't post them. Just disagree --as vehemently as you prefer-- and explain why you disagree.

Attack the argument, not the person -- even if they're attacking others and/or you. It can be a subtle distinction, but this is the difference between civilized-but-lively debate and ego-wanking.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40406427)

A lot of dumb people think they're pretty smart. The number of individuals in the group does not have to be large for at least one to be smarter than you (you could generalize from the birthday paradox).

It is not a measure of intelligence to 'put fools in their place'. It is wrestling with a pig. When you can, stick to facts. When you don't have facts, stick to logic. When the person you're arguing with has a fundamentally different view of truth as you (e.g. skepticism vs religion), appeal to emotion. Connect with your reader, and your opponent if possible. When your argument is lost, cut your losses. This can mean preemptively censoring yourself. Often. Please.

Everyone in this world is a fool. Some of us have a small idea of the limits of our knowledge. If you wish to be influential (or at least upmoderated) you must to be polite to fools. Because, cher ami, you most certainly are one.

What you have identified is not a flaw in the system, it is a flaw in your "tone", by which we mean a social failure. You have the capacity to correct this. If you don't, no one will ever care, and that will be your punishment, Cassandra. Although really it's far more likely that you'll just be another angry idiot.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405697)

I think they would like you in r/conspiracy, but judging by this comment; I'm not surprised you've concocted this theory from basically nothing.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (0)

Johann Lau (1040920) | about 2 years ago | (#40406631)

"I'm not surprised you've concocted this theory from basically nothing."

it's based on their experience; on the other hand, what is your theory, that they made it up, based on? oh that's right, you just made it up. that's not exactly surprising either.

Re:Same with their up/down voting (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405837)

And if you mention the ongoing project of genocide directed at white people, you can expect a million downvotes from white anti-white cultural marxists.

EU should 'undermine national homogeneity' says UN migration chief [bbc.co.uk]

“You’re (white people) on the endangered list. And unlike, say, the bald eagle or some exotic species of muskrat, you are not worth saving. In forty years or so, maybe fewer, there won’t be any more white people around.” – Tim Wise, “anti-racist activist”

“The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the White race.” – Noel Ignatiev, Harvard Professor

“Is it the duty of every good revolutionary to kill every newborn White baby?” – A member of the Weather Underground

UNACCEPTABLE: “Affirmative action and racial quotas are special treatment for minorities.”
ACCEPTABLE: “Affirmative action and racial quotas are necessary to overcome the legacy of slavery which is still keeping any non-Asian minority from succeeding in Post-Racial America. Besides, white people are all rich, connected, and racially privileged, so the very notion of treating them unfairly is racist and stupid, and you are racist and stupid for saying it.”

UNACCEPTABLE: “There’s black people out there, rioting, looting, and setting fire to grocery stores!”
ACCEPTABLE: “Although partially blinded by my white privilege, I think I see some oppressed minorities fighting back against institutional racism, seeking social justice through involuntary reparations, and opening a combustion-based dialogue with the Korean community.”

UNACCEPTABLE: “Black men just keep raping white women at a ridiculously high rate.”
ACCEPTABLE: “Today’s race-conscious African-American male seeks to overcome historical barriers to inter-racial unions, as well as discriminatory female consent practices.”

Re:Same with their up/down voting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40406143)

If I had mod points I would mode this "overrated".

Fake /. comment (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405357)

Setting the desired tone? Gates bad. Torvalds good. Portman hot. Jobs cool.

Re:Fake /. comment (5, Funny)

jalet (36114) | about 2 years ago | (#40405975)

> Setting the desired tone? Gates bad. Torvalds good. Portman hot. Jobs cold.

FTFY

When you pretend thing are one way, while secretly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405465)

are another.
Fraud, in other words.

4chan called it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405527)

Although there is a running joke on 4chan that "there are only two users on this site: moot and this guy named Anonymous who is a real asshole."

Oh, Reddit.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405711)

So when they started out they intentionally wanted reddit to be a cesspool of misogyny, memes, in-jokes and teenagers? Cool.

Re:Oh, Reddit.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405833)

Don't forget child porn and racism!

Stop The Presses! - (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40405819)

> Reddit was built by and remains under the control of samefags

lol some community

digg.com (1, Funny)

p51d007 (656414) | about 2 years ago | (#40406279)

So, reddit is admitting they are as fake as digg.com? LOL, dropped both sites a few years back.

Illegal? (1)

multimediavt (965608) | about 2 years ago | (#40406285)

Wouldn't what they did constitute fraud and manipulation and put them in an actionable position from their advertisers and/or actual human users, if not criminal in some locales? It's wholly unethical at best and I have been asked to create fake accounts and posts by some of my web clients and have told them so. That's just so wrong on so many levels.

Reddit hosts child porn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40406347)

Huh... I would have thought after the semi-debacle that occurred when people exposed Reddit for having subreddits where people openly traded child porn while administrators tacitly stood by and said nothing, that nothing could make me think less of Reddit. I guess this just proves that the site's operators have been disingenuous scumbags since the very beginning.

Re:Reddit hosts child porn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40406727)

The question is, does the child porn stuff still seem as bad now that you know it was just one reddit admin with a bunch of fake accounts trading kiddy porn with herself.

Much like starting anything else (3, Interesting)

mea_culpa (145339) | about 2 years ago | (#40406481)

A computer operating system requires a bootstrapper to load it into memory before it can run.
An engine on an automobile or aircraft requires rotation by an external source before it can power itself.
A business requires capital before it can generate its own.
A social media site requires 'social media' before it can launch.

Ghost towns.. (2)

jmerlin (1010641) | about 2 years ago | (#40406841)

I loathe the idea of ever living in New York City but would love to live in a ghost town. You know what they say about assumptions, man!

Reddit has jumped the shark (1)

SCHecklerX (229973) | about 2 years ago | (#40407013)

The general population of redditors and their self-masturbatory attention whoring has become annoying enough that I don't bother any more. I used to waste hours a day there, but the signal/noise ratio has turned decidedly flamboyant hipster. The resulting Imgur postings each day, however, are still worth watching, so I just subscribe to those feeds. Funny/Sexy/Nerdy content without the self-pleasuring drivel. Much better way to 'reddit'.

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