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China Pirates Austrian Village

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the imitation-is-the-sincerest-form-of-flattery dept.

China 150

First time accepted submitter thecoolstacks writes "Knockoff Apple Stores are one thing...but a knockoff Austrian village? That's some hardcore piracy right there, but we guess leave it China to do what it does best. From the article: 'After a year of construction and a price tag of $940 million dollars, the Chinese have successfully recreated the Austrian village of Hallstatt in its entirety over in the Southern Guangzhou Province. And let’s just say not every Austrian’s a fan of having their UNESCO heritage site ripped off. But since China is Austria’s second largest trading partner, what are you gonna do?'"

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Pirates? (5, Insightful)

Spritzer (950539) | about 2 years ago | (#40408269)

Seriously? Pirated? How about mimics, copies, or "builds replica of". I guess the next time I build a table for a friend based on another design I'll be a patch wearing, one-legged, parrot lover too. Ridiculous!!

Re:Pirates? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408311)

re what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409877)

The average age of slashdot editors is increasing, as evidenced by the number of repeat references to old stories.

Re:Pirates? (5, Insightful)

purpledinoz (573045) | about 2 years ago | (#40408333)

I guess Las Vegas pirated the Eiffel Tower, New York, and Venice... the copy is never is good as the original.

Re:Pirates? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409917)

I'm still angry at the French for making that miniature, inferior copy of Tokyo Tower.

Re:Pirates? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40410059)

where is the checksum so we can verify your claim?

Re:Pirates? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40410087)

And then China (more specifically, in Macau) pirates Las Vegas.

Re:Pirates? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40410489)

You probably found the reason for the European economical problems. Can you imagine all those tourists in Vegas that should actually be spending their money in the Eiffel tower, Venice and others? If a CD goes for 100,000$ penalty, then a single Eiffel tower with thousands of tourists every week could probably wipe out the entire European debt.

Problem solved.

Re:Pirates? (1)

Zibodiz (2160038) | about 2 years ago | (#40410495)

Oh, definitely; I'm never going to buy the original Eiffel Tower or Statue of Liberty. Stephen Sauvestre & Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi haven't received a cent of royalties in ages! Proof that pirating hurts artists!

Re:Pirates? (0, Troll)

kamapuaa (555446) | about 2 years ago | (#40408551)

Piracy has meant that for like 500 years now, but I suppose if you make faulty semantic arguments about things you obviously understand, you might convince other Slashdot people who already agree with you anyway.

Re:Pirates? (5, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | about 2 years ago | (#40409341)

Sorry, I did not read the stories of how Blackbeard the pirate would copy someone's idea.

Yarr me maties! Le'ts copy that ship! Get out yer measurin' thingies and cameras!

Re:Pirates? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409939)

No, but he copped the whole eye-pach idea from Greybeard, the pegleg from Redbeard, and the parrot on the shoulder idea was totally Bluebeard's. Friggin' pirate.

Re:Pirates? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408611)

Is what a country can do when it has a shitload of money and pays workers nothing.

Re:Pirates? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409569)

Yeah! When pirates are backed by a sovereign state, they're called privateers.

Re:Pirates? (5, Insightful)

flyneye (84093) | about 2 years ago | (#40409591)

Yeah, I'm not sure about outrage as a response, either. Isn't the sick enticement of instant vacation to take you somewhere else, cheaply?
Disney did this decades before China. ( I notice that not unlike China, Disney also twists propaganda into stories to indoctrinate children politically)
Think about it a while and the concept is mirrored in everything from restaurants to Indian theme summer camps, from Las Vegas theme casinos to dude ranches.
Someones culture is borrowed, chewed, swallowed,digested and packaged for mass consumption. So China copies a town, big deal.

Re:Pirates? (4, Funny)

Idbar (1034346) | about 2 years ago | (#40409827)

You just wait... when the Village Industry Association of America (or Austria) comes after them... it's not going to be funny.

Pirate concept could use the irony (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40410065)

Given all the sillyness surrounding copyright, piracu, patents, etc, extra doses of critique and irony are welcome.

Re:Pirates? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40410431)

Yes, seriously, pirated.

Oh, and I totally pirated a delicious steak dinner last night. That was after I pirated a game of badminton while pirating some sunshine in my pirated backyard.

Re:Pirates? (1)

Culture20 (968837) | about 2 years ago | (#40410593)

Oh, and I totally pirated a delicious steak dinner last night. That was after I pirated a game of badminton while pirating some sunshine in my pirated backyard.

This made me think of a little town made of mushrooms in the woods where little blue people wearing black hats, hooks, and eye-patches live an idyllic life.

Oh God.. (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408281)

Oh God... the ninjas... they're turning into pirates!

Re:Oh God.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408833)

Oh God... the ninjas... they're turning into pirates!

Fail. Ninjas are Japanese.

Re:Oh God.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409565)

Oh God... the ninjas... they're turning into pirates!

Fail. Ninjas are Japanese.

So you're saying that the Chinese are copying the Japanese now too?!

Re:Oh God.. (5, Funny)

azalin (67640) | about 2 years ago | (#40408857)

Oh God... the ninjas... they're turning into pirates!

Thank you for the image of a black clad ninja with a wooden leg and a parrot on his shoulder. Now all they need to do is to find out how to move silently while saying "Arrrrh!" at the same time.

Already Posted to Slashdot (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408291)

This has already been posted on the main page a good fortnight ago. The article is available here: http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/06/05/2332224/china-secretly-clones-austrian-village

Re:Already Posted to Slashdot (1)

cvtan (752695) | about 2 years ago | (#40409225)

Those who have posted the cloned story about the pirated village have been sacked. Sorry. It was the mention of a "fortnight" that did it.

Dupe (5, Insightful)

DiSKiLLeR (17651) | about 2 years ago | (#40408295)

Dupe.

http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/06/05/2332224/china-secretly-clones-austrian-village [slashdot.org]

To be fair, its more than a day or two. But only 2 weeks ago.

Re:Dupe (5, Funny)

phantomfive (622387) | about 2 years ago | (#40408391)

Quick! Go find a +5 post and past it into this story! Instant karma! Like I did copying this post from the previous dupe!

Did I do this right? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409833)

Quick! Go find a +5 post and past it into this story! Instant karma! Like I did copying this post from the previous dupe!

Re:Dupe (0)

P-niiice (1703362) | about 2 years ago | (#40410337)

Okay. Quick! Go find a +5 post and past it into this story! Instant karma! Like I did copying this post from the previous dupe!

Re:Dupe (5, Funny)

ignavus (213578) | about 2 years ago | (#40408673)

Dupe.

http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/06/05/2332224/china-secretly-clones-austrian-village [slashdot.org]

To be fair, its more than a day or two. But only 2 weeks ago.

So, it is a duplicate of a story about a duplicate of a village?

Re:Dupe (2)

Planar (126167) | about 2 years ago | (#40408853)

So, it is a duplicate of a story about a duplicate of a village?

Yeah. Next on Slashdot: "Slashdot pirates itself!"

Re:Dupe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408733)

Also - the mobile version of this has "share this" and then icons down the entire right side of the screen. Unacceptable, slashdot.

Re:Dupe (5, Informative)

wvmarle (1070040) | about 2 years ago | (#40409095)

Submitters also really have a problem with the location.

First article: not mentioned.

This article: false location. It is in Guangzhou (also known by its old English name of Canton) all-right, but that's the name of a city, not a province. This city in Guangdong province, which is in the south of China. There is no "Southern Guangzhou Province" in China.

samzenpus PIRATED that story! (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | about 2 years ago | (#40409643)

The evil rotter, hang him from the highest mast, or a doorframe, whatever is closest. As long as he is hanged. The dirty pirate!

Dupe (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408301)

This is a dupe. It was on the front page a couple of weeks ago.

Re:Dupe (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408347)

Not a dupe. This one's a pirate of the original.

Re:Dupe (1)

aurashift (2037038) | about 2 years ago | (#40408377)

Can you pirate your own article on piracy? Seems to spit in the definition of the word pirate, as far as the english language is concerned.

Hmm, pirating real Austrians.... (2)

Yosho-sama (800703) | about 2 years ago | (#40408313)

...going to be more difficult. The Chinese have two alternatives.

1. They can abduct thousands of people to populate their village or more likely

2. They're going to user their citizens as knock off Chinese imitations of Austrians. In which case, I am booking a flight to China to see this place immediately.

Worrying (1)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | about 2 years ago | (#40409471)

Which Austrians do they intend to emulate? The Habsburgs? Or Adolf Schickelgrueber?

In either case, bang goes the neighbourhood.

Re:Worrying (1)

clemdoc (624639) | about 2 years ago | (#40409563)

I see no shortage of excellent candidates when I look out (of my basement window). But really, the idea could lead to the renaissance of an excellent tradition from the founders of democracy: Ostracism!

Villages are copyrighted? (5, Insightful)

EdIII (1114411) | about 2 years ago | (#40408317)

Seriously, how do articles like this get accepted in the first place?

China made a village in the exact style, placements, etc. of an Austrian village. Piracy? Piracy, hardcore, piracy is what China does best? What kind of baseless insult is that? Is this news, or some emotional butthurt editorial from an Austrian?

Does that mean that large parts of China Town ripped off China? Las Vegas ripped off France with its mini Eiffel Tower?

Get real. I can't even believe this is an article. Should not have even made it to Idle.

Re:Villages are copyrighted? (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 2 years ago | (#40408521)

The 'China does best' is just in relation to China's well-deserved reputation as a major manufacturer of counterfeit goods and low-cost imitations of successful products. As the companies being coppied from are not Chinese, the government sees no reason to spend too much money on policing this particular crime.

Re:Villages are copyrighted? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408629)

Congratulations, you've been trolled.

Re:Villages are copyrighted? (5, Interesting)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 2 years ago | (#40408713)

Far more interesting (to me) is that they built it in just one year. We are not talking cheap high-rise blocks thrown up, there is some real skill and craftsmanship here.

Re:Villages are copyrighted? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409105)

Las Vegas ripped off France with its mini Eiffel Tower?

No, but the French ripped off the Blackpool Tower with its Eiffel Tower.

durrrr i like to pirate slashdot articles (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408353)

http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/06/05/2332224/china-secretly-clones-austrian-village

slashdot pirates their own content. jesus christ, lrn2search your own site.

The next natural step (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408365)

China does what it can (artificial Yuan devaluation) to make sure we outsource to them. It only stands to reason they'ed want a slice of the tourism pie as well. Why go all the way to France when you can visit something just as good without leaving the country? Forget that the food is nothing alike and no one can quite manage that french accent, coming here keeps your own economy strong! (And probably some bs about better moral values.)

China is Austria’s second largest trading pa (4, Informative)

node159 (636992) | about 2 years ago | (#40408367)

"China is Austria’s second largest trading partner".

Umm... I think you may have Austria and Australia confused. Austria is that tiny country in the middle of Europe known for the 'Sound of Music', the birth place of Hitler, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Josef Fritzl (serial incestual rapist), the alps ... but not so much for kangaroos.

Re:China is Austria’s second largest trading (2)

pahles (701275) | about 2 years ago | (#40408433)

No, Austria and Australia didn't get mixed up. You don't think China could be their second largest trading partner, right after, let's say, neighbor country Germany?

Re:China is Austria’s second largest trading (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408525)

Nope. Unsurprisingly, the major trade partners are mostly their immediate neighbors and other EU member states. According to the statistical office of the austrian government, the most important trading partners are (export numbers in 2011):

1) Germany: 31.1%
2) Italy: 7.6%
3) United States: 5.2%
4) Switzerland: 4.9%
5) France: 4.1%
6) Czech Republic: 3.9%
7) Hungary: 3.1%
8) UK: 3%
9) Poland: 2.8%
10) Russian Federation: 2.4%
11) China: 2.4%

That's quite a bit distant from being the second most important trade partner, so I think it's very likely that someone confused the two countries:

Re:China is Austria’s second largest trading (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409789)

this is what happens when you don't fact-check before commenting on a fact-based comment.

Re:China is Austria’s second largest trading (3, Informative)

azalin (67640) | about 2 years ago | (#40408935)

And Red Bull, the croissant, coffee names so weird it would make even starbucks blush and a generally twisted naming scheme for food (a popular sausage is called a "Eitrige" - the ulcerous). No kangaroos though.
According to Statistik Austria, China had an export share of 2.4% ranking eleventh. The top three would be Germany (31.1%), Italy (7.6%) and the United States 5.4%. They do import a lot from China (rank 4) but less than 5%.
So yes, someone probably mixed those two up or didn't check the facts.

"What are you gonna do?" (1)

sound+vision (884283) | about 2 years ago | (#40408387)

"What are you gonna do?"
How about ... nothing? It's not like the Austrian town isn't still there in its entirety.

Somewhat related - There's a golf course near where I live that re-created portions of famous golf courses from around the world, and got sued by several of them for this. And it was fucking ridiculous.
Ref. http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1995_1309260/lawyers-make-final-arguments-in-tour-18-lawsuit.html [chron.com]

Not piracy (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408417)

You can't copyright a city. The city is not being passed off as the "original". It is not piracy by any definition of the word. And if it were every country would be in trouble. There are 30 Eiffel Towers around the globe. The Statue of Liberty is no different. Even the Taj Mahal has been copied. Does this undermines the value of the original? I don't think so. If anything, someone who visited a copy might be more willing to travel to see what the original looks like. That said, I don't see the point of copying a whole city, but maybe that's just me.

Dollars dollars (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408457)

After a year of construction and a price tag of $940 million dollars...

Does anybody else read that as "nine hundred forty million dollars dollars"?

Herp derp bigotry (4, Insightful)

sco08y (615665) | about 2 years ago | (#40408465)

That's some hardcore piracy right there, but we guess leave it China to do what it does best.

That's some writing a small child would be ashamed of, but we leave it to Slashdot editors to fail at what they fail at best.

Re:Herp derp bigotry (1)

hackula (2596247) | about 2 years ago | (#40410187)

Hate to be a grammar nazi, but don't you mean: "but we guess leave it Slashdot editors to what they does best"

ahahahah RETARDS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408515)

I swear, SlashDot is becoming tabloid. The lack of integrity, quality, and legitimacy is staggering.
Lazy Fucking Bastards!!

You wouldn't steal a car, ... (2)

El_Muerte_TDS (592157) | about 2 years ago | (#40408543)

You wouldn't steal a house, You wouldn't steal a city.

But you're free to build one exactly like it (more or less "copy it") and use it the way you like.

Not that much of problem, really... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408547)

Last I've read in an Austrian media, the people from Hallstadt rather considered it as some kind of free promotion. Who of you would have known Hallstadt if it wasn't for the Chinese?

BTW, Austrias second largest trading partner after Germany is Italy, followed by Switherland and the Netherlands.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/au.html

Re:Not that much of problem, really... (1)

Sique (173459) | about 2 years ago | (#40408681)

Because Hallstatt is one of the main finding places for certain neolithican artifacts, which thus are called Hallstatt culture [wikipedia.org]? It's like Neanderthal - everyone knows the neanderthals, but who actually ever was at the Neanderthal Train station [wikipedia.org] or walked through the Neander valley, named after the german composer Joachim Neander (which ironically is a greek translation of Neander's original family name Neumann = new man)? Most of you only know the human species Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, whose remainings were first found there.

Missing informaton... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408553)

A lot of "pirated" comments are going around here, but how was it decided that this village was pirated? Who did they check with in the village administration to verify that China didn't buy the rights to do so?

That's pretty damned cool actually (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40408697)

Next do the movie version of Rivendell! Heck, why not? A it'll snap up a billion dollars too.

The REAL Pirates Here (1)

skine (1524819) | about 2 years ago | (#40408867)

The REAL "pirates" here are thecoolstacks and samzenpus.

They've taken a story already posted by Hugh Pickens and Soulskill, and they've reposted it.

If only... (1)

hugetoon (766694) | about 2 years ago | (#40409051)

If only they did that using 3d additive printing performed by adruino/PV cells powered drones swarm that are controlled using crowd sourcing trough a cloud.

That'd be hardcore....

I applaud the Chinese and I'm Austrian. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409125)

Austria is being paved over with highways, strip malls, excessive parking, soulless suburbs and soviet style housing projects at breakneck speed. Our decadent and postmodernist elites plunck down atrocities like these [wikimedia.org] (Kunsthaus Graz [wikipedia.org]) into the middle of our beautiful town centers.
The income from tourism provides the only political motivation for some restraint. Funny how tourists aren't interested in any places or buildings that were built during the last 60 years. But even this concern is considered parochial and therefore under constant attack from the (pseudo)intellectual class. To preserve what is beautiful is disparaged as "wishing to live in a museum". A redoubled effort to build even more brutalist and grotesque structures on the other hand is alleged to bring a more "sophisticated" set of tourists.

Great civilizations imitate and learn from the achievements of the past and others and build upon it. The modernism and postmodernism of the West on the other hand seeks to wipe the slate clean and start from scratch. The result is perpetual dilettantism.

The Chinese are on the right track. I wish they would copy more or even build an Austrian town here in Austria.

Re:I applaud the Chinese and I'm Austrian. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409175)

not everyone in china can afford to go to the actual places, it's good to learn about other cultures.
and our culture is completely alien to half of china, they got allot of internal racism problems.

Re:I applaud the Chinese and I'm Austrian. (4, Insightful)

Lazy Jones (8403) | about 2 years ago | (#40409195)

Funny how tourists aren't interested in any places or buildings that were built during the last 60 years.

That's wrong for Vienna (e.g. Hundertwasserhaus [wikipedia.org]) and it's probably just as wrong for Graz. The most prominent architecture was always novel and radical and just because some examples were simply not good, you cannot discredit modern architecture in general. Would we have the buildings like the Secession [wikipedia.org] if we had always stuck to preserving traditional styles? In a few decades, we'll wish we had built more buildings like the new Sofitel [flickr.com] (Jean Nouvel!). Sadly, people are more keen on preserving ugly 1950's buildings on the other side of the Wienkanal than having great modern architecture like the French for example.

Re:I applaud the Chinese and I'm Austrian. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409323)

The Secession was built in 1897 and doesn't fall into the time span that i object to. 1950's buildings on the other hand do and should be flattened without exception.
Hundertwasser opposed modernism and brutalism. The Sofitel building wouldn't be allowed in Paris itself.

Tourists don't come because of the odd interesting architecture, but because of walkability, scale and proportion of streets, places and buildings in relation to each other, an organic integration of mixed uses that has grown over time and is connected all the way back to some of the historical sites.

Nobody is interested in the Donauplatte Skyscrapers, SCS, Gewerbepark Stadlau, Trabrenngründe-Siedlung, or any of the vast developments or suburban sprawl of the past decades inside and outside Vienna.

Re:I applaud the Chinese and I'm Austrian. (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about 2 years ago | (#40409377)

It's because you elect leaders that are LOW IQ like we do in the USA. you CAN have new buildings built that match the existing design and does not ruin the feel. But that requires Architects that have talent and real skill, real money to be spent, and Project managers that have a clue.

Re:I applaud the Chinese and I'm Austrian. (1)

frazamatazzle (783144) | about 2 years ago | (#40410473)

That building is precisely what I like about Europe. The mixing of old traditional stuff with crazy ass modern stuff. Just casually side by side. How boring it would be if every town in Europe strictly stuck to some sort of design guide. I see buildings like this as a sort of shout saying "We're still here!", in a borderline obnoxious, yet still quite cool way.

It's a win (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409149)

"let’s just say not every Austrian’s a fan of having their UNESCO heritage site ripped off."

Instead of having just one nice, vintage austrian village worthy of UNESCO recognition, the world now has two. I say this is an improvement.

They were allowed by te mayor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409457)

So stuff your "it is pirated". There isn't even a copyright so far as I can tell, but even if there was, it would be on the local authority to hold it, and they authorized it.

Which so-called IP did they violate? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409515)

'Piracy' in the land-lubber use of the word is usually used to describe a violation of the so called 'intelectual property' rights: trademarks, patents and copyright.
To my best knowlegde a village isn't patentable nor it there a trademark involved. Leaves copyright. Besides doubting that a village is suject to copyright - after all it is the work of many individual properties, the layout of that village is old enough that even the insanely long protection periods of today would have been expired.

So the Hallstadters should be flattered since immitation is the sincerest form of flattery. And make posters to be hanged in the clone: come see the original and experience the difference.

Quite amusing actually

Lot of that going around... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40409867)

http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/06/05/2332224/china-secretly-clones-austrian-village

gg, slashdot

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