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Vulnerable SAP Deployments Make Prime Attack Targets

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the don't-be-such-a-sap dept.

Security 72

wiredmikey writes "Using a combination of TCP scans and Google, security researchers found that nearly a quarter of the organizations running vulnerable versions of SAP are tempting fate by leaving them exposed to the Internet. This discovery, researchers from ERPScan say, dispels the myth that SAP systems are only available from the internal network, leading to the misconception that they are protected by design. By March 2012, there were more than 2,000 security advisories published by SAP. Of those, about 7% (124) have publicly available PoC (proof-of-concept) exploit code available to the public. Many of the issues discovered are related to poor configuration or poor deployment planning. For example, 212 SAP Routers were found in Germany, which were created mainly to route access to internal SAP systems. Another issue with the vulnerable and exposed SAP installations is that many of them run on Windows NT, creating a twin set of risks for the organization, as they have to contend with a bad SAP deployment and unsupported OS that is full of security issues all by itself."

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where can i download a trial version of SAP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40424737)

I cant find it anywhere on the SAP site!

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (4, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424855)

I cant find it anywhere on the SAP site!

If you think that a 'demo' is an executable you download, rather than something delivered by a besuited sales team, you might not be a potential customer...

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40425171)

Oracle will let me download a demo of their whole ERP suite for free, it's only a couple hundred gigabytes and can be installed in less than a week.

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40426219)

It's a know fact that SAP installations take anywhere from few months to few years..

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (1)

c_g_hills (110430) | more than 2 years ago | (#40436415)

The book "SAP - A Map of The Minefield" by Stephen Birchall is a good read.

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (2)

buchner.johannes (1139593) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425177)

If I were a somewhat serious security researcher, I would install a couple of SAP and SCADA honeypots.

Perhaps fishing for executables that run, check the environment and then do nothing.

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40425223)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 1998, a little boy named Timmy was enjoying a relaxing day at the beach with his beloved family. Being the curious and adventurous young lad that he was, he managed to sneak away from his family and traveled far enough away from them that they could just barely see him from where they were located. Little Timmy, while walking, then noticed a small lizard beanie baby sitting in the sand, looking up towards him. They exchanged greetings, and then, feeling daring, Timmy said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcheeks!"

The lizard replied in a confident tone, "I bet I can!" Then, the lizard beanie baby's tongue stuck out a few centimeters in front of its face and stopped moving. Timmy, not understanding the situation, gazed at it in puzzlement. Suddenly, he heard and felt something slimy smack his precious cheek! He couldn't believe it! It was as if most of the lizard's tongue was invisible and that he could stretch it and make it move anywhere he wanted from any location!

Timmy, still feeling daring, then said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcrack!" In the same confident tone, the lizard replied, "I bet I can!" and the exact same event as before happened once again. The lizard stuck out its tongue a few centimeters, and mere moments later, something hit Timmy's bare buttcrack. This caused Timmy to jump in the air from surprise.

Timmy, angry that the lizard's tongue violated his precious snap, screamed, "I betcha can't lick my butthole!" This time, his voice didn't have the daring tone that it had before. The lizard almost immediately replied, in a confident tone that sounded as if he knew precisely what would happen, "I bet I can!" Regretting his decision to dare the lizard immensely, Timmy began begging and pleading for the lizard to stop. Despite this rather sad turn of events, an invisible, wet tongue smacked Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole moments later! The lizard had slurped his most prized possession!

Infuriated that his most precious spot was violated by the dirty little lizard's tongue, Timmy attempted to kick the lizard. However, to his surprise, the lizard was somehow able to avoid the blow and crawl into his pant leg! Timmy could see a small lump on his pant leg slowly make its way towards his ass! Thinking quickly, Timmy used his hands to block its path. Feeling victorious, he smirked and began mocking the lizard. Seconds later, the lump somehow managed to effortlessly move right under the obstacles that were Timmy's hands and continued merrily on its way!

Timmy, frightened, tried desperately to take off his jeans, but it was as if they were glued to his body! The lizard finally made its way to Timmy's ass, crawled between his ass cheeks, climbed on top of his precious hole, and then stopped. As if it had stopped just to make Timmy even more frightened, the lizard began its mission as soon as Timmy's dread became apparent. The lizard crawled all over Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole in a square pattern, stopped at each corner of the imaginary square for about a second, and then moved to the next corner.

Each time it crawled, each time it moved, a sinister rattling sound was heard, and tremendous amounts of tickle were inflicted upon Timmy's ass! He could do nothing but try to endure it, but there is no way that any being in existence could endure having such concentrated amounts of tickle inflicted upon their ass. He screamed and pleaded for it to stop, but to no avail. The lizard continued crawling, and Timmy heard it let out an ominous laugh...

Now that you have read even a single word of this, the very same lizard puppet will effortlessly make its way to your bootysnapcheekcrackhole, and crawl all over it to inflict preposterous amounts of tickle upon your ass! To prevent this from occurring, copy this entire story and post it as a comment three times.

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40427631)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 1998, a little boy named Timmy was enjoying a relaxing day at the beach with his beloved family. Being the curious and adventurous young lad that he was, he managed to sneak away from his family and traveled far enough away from them that they could just barely see him from where they were located. Little Timmy, while walking, then noticed a small lizard beanie baby sitting in the sand, looking up towards him. They exchanged greetings, and then, feeling daring, Timmy said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcheeks!"

The lizard replied in a confident tone, "I bet I can!" Then, the lizard beanie baby's tongue stuck out a few centimeters in front of its face and stopped moving. Timmy, not understanding the situation, gazed at it in puzzlement. Suddenly, he heard and felt something slimy smack his precious cheek! He couldn't believe it! It was as if most of the lizard's tongue was invisible and that he could stretch it and make it move anywhere he wanted from any location!

Timmy, still feeling daring, then said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcrack!" In the same confident tone, the lizard replied, "I bet I can!" and the exact same event as before happened once again. The lizard stuck out its tongue a few centimeters, and mere moments later, something hit Timmy's bare buttcrack. This caused Timmy to jump in the air from surprise.

Timmy, angry that the lizard's tongue violated his precious snap, screamed, "I betcha can't lick my butthole!" This time, his voice didn't have the daring tone that it had before. The lizard almost immediately replied, in a confident tone that sounded as if he knew precisely what would happen, "I bet I can!" Regretting his decision to dare the lizard immensely, Timmy began begging and pleading for the lizard to stop. Despite this rather sad turn of events, an invisible, wet tongue smacked Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole moments later! The lizard had slurped his most prized possession!

Infuriated that his most precious spot was violated by the dirty little lizard's tongue, Timmy attempted to kick the lizard. However, to his surprise, the lizard was somehow able to avoid the blow and crawl into his pant leg! Timmy could see a small lump on his pant leg slowly make its way towards his ass! Thinking quickly, Timmy used his hands to block its path. Feeling victorious, he smirked and began mocking the lizard. Seconds later, the lump somehow managed to effortlessly move right under the obstacles that were Timmy's hands and continued merrily on its way!

Timmy, frightened, tried desperately to take off his jeans, but it was as if they were glued to his body! The lizard finally made its way to Timmy's ass, crawled between his ass cheeks, climbed on top of his precious hole, and then stopped. As if it had stopped just to make Timmy even more frightened, the lizard began its mission as soon as Timmy's dread became apparent. The lizard crawled all over Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole in a square pattern, stopped at each corner of the imaginary square for about a second, and then moved to the next corner.

Each time it crawled, each time it moved, a sinister rattling sound was heard, and tremendous amounts of tickle were inflicted upon Timmy's ass! He could do nothing but try to endure it, but there is no way that any being in existence could endure having such concentrated amounts of tickle inflicted upon their ass. He screamed and pleaded for it to stop, but to no avail. The lizard continued crawling, and Timmy heard it let out an ominous laugh...

Now that you have read even a single word of this, the very same lizard puppet will effortlessly make its way to your bootysnapcheekcrackhole, and crawl all over it to inflict preposterous amounts of tickle upon your ass! To prevent this from occurring, copy this entire story and post it as a comment three times.

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 1998, a little boy named Timmy was enjoying a relaxing day at the beach with his beloved family. Being the curious and adventurous young lad that he was, he managed to sneak away from his family and traveled far enough away from them that they could just barely see him from where they were located. Little Timmy, while walking, then noticed a small lizard beanie baby sitting in the sand, looking up towards him. They exchanged greetings, and then, feeling daring, Timmy said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcheeks!"

The lizard replied in a confident tone, "I bet I can!" Then, the lizard beanie baby's tongue stuck out a few centimeters in front of its face and stopped moving. Timmy, not understanding the situation, gazed at it in puzzlement. Suddenly, he heard and felt something slimy smack his precious cheek! He couldn't believe it! It was as if most of the lizard's tongue was invisible and that he could stretch it and make it move anywhere he wanted from any location!

Timmy, still feeling daring, then said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcrack!" In the same confident tone, the lizard replied, "I bet I can!" and the exact same event as before happened once again. The lizard stuck out its tongue a few centimeters, and mere moments later, something hit Timmy's bare buttcrack. This caused Timmy to jump in the air from surprise.

Timmy, angry that the lizard's tongue violated his precious snap, screamed, "I betcha can't lick my butthole!" This time, his voice didn't have the daring tone that it had before. The lizard almost immediately replied, in a confident tone that sounded as if he knew precisely what would happen, "I bet I can!" Regretting his decision to dare the lizard immensely, Timmy began begging and pleading for the lizard to stop. Despite this rather sad turn of events, an invisible, wet tongue smacked Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole moments later! The lizard had slurped his most prized possession!

Infuriated that his most precious spot was violated by the dirty little lizard's tongue, Timmy attempted to kick the lizard. However, to his surprise, the lizard was somehow able to avoid the blow and crawl into his pant leg! Timmy could see a small lump on his pant leg slowly make its way towards his ass! Thinking quickly, Timmy used his hands to block its path. Feeling victorious, he smirked and began mocking the lizard. Seconds later, the lump somehow managed to effortlessly move right under the obstacles that were Timmy's hands and continued merrily on its way!

Timmy, frightened, tried desperately to take off his jeans, but it was as if they were glued to his body! The lizard finally made its way to Timmy's ass, crawled between his ass cheeks, climbed on top of his precious hole, and then stopped. As if it had stopped just to make Timmy even more frightened, the lizard began its mission as soon as Timmy's dread became apparent. The lizard crawled all over Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole in a square pattern, stopped at each corner of the imaginary square for about a second, and then moved to the next corner.

Each time it crawled, each time it moved, a sinister rattling sound was heard, and tremendous amounts of tickle were inflicted upon Timmy's ass! He could do nothing but try to endure it, but there is no way that any being in existence could endure having such concentrated amounts of tickle inflicted upon their ass. He screamed and pleaded for it to stop, but to no avail. The lizard continued crawling, and Timmy heard it let out an ominous laugh...

Now that you have read even a single word of this, the very same lizard puppet will effortlessly make its way to your bootysnapcheekcrackhole, and crawl all over it to inflict preposterous amounts of tickle upon your ass! To prevent this from occurring, copy this entire story and post it as a comment three times.

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40427645)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 1998, a little boy named Timmy was enjoying a relaxing day at the beach with his beloved family. Being the curious and adventurous young lad that he was, he managed to sneak away from his family and traveled far enough away from them that they could just barely see him from where they were located. Little Timmy, while walking, then noticed a small lizard beanie baby sitting in the sand, looking up towards him. They exchanged greetings, and then, feeling daring, Timmy said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcheeks!"

The lizard replied in a confident tone, "I bet I can!" Then, the lizard beanie baby's tongue stuck out a few centimeters in front of its face and stopped moving. Timmy, not understanding the situation, gazed at it in puzzlement. Suddenly, he heard and felt something slimy smack his precious cheek! He couldn't believe it! It was as if most of the lizard's tongue was invisible and that he could stretch it and make it move anywhere he wanted from any location!

Timmy, still feeling daring, then said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcrack!" In the same confident tone, the lizard replied, "I bet I can!" and the exact same event as before happened once again. The lizard stuck out its tongue a few centimeters, and mere moments later, something hit Timmy's bare buttcrack. This caused Timmy to jump in the air from surprise.

Timmy, angry that the lizard's tongue violated his precious snap, screamed, "I betcha can't lick my butthole!" This time, his voice didn't have the daring tone that it had before. The lizard almost immediately replied, in a confident tone that sounded as if he knew precisely what would happen, "I bet I can!" Regretting his decision to dare the lizard immensely, Timmy began begging and pleading for the lizard to stop. Despite this rather sad turn of events, an invisible, wet tongue smacked Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole moments later! The lizard had slurped his most prized possession!

Infuriated that his most precious spot was violated by the dirty little lizard's tongue, Timmy attempted to kick the lizard. However, to his surprise, the lizard was somehow able to avoid the blow and crawl into his pant leg! Timmy could see a small lump on his pant leg slowly make its way towards his ass! Thinking quickly, Timmy used his hands to block its path. Feeling victorious, he smirked and began mocking the lizard. Seconds later, the lump somehow managed to effortlessly move right under the obstacles that were Timmy's hands and continued merrily on its way!

Timmy, frightened, tried desperately to take off his jeans, but it was as if they were glued to his body! The lizard finally made its way to Timmy's ass, crawled between his ass cheeks, climbed on top of his precious hole, and then stopped. As if it had stopped just to make Timmy even more frightened, the lizard began its mission as soon as Timmy's dread became apparent. The lizard crawled all over Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole in a square pattern, stopped at each corner of the imaginary square for about a second, and then moved to the next corner.

Each time it crawled, each time it moved, a sinister rattling sound was heard, and tremendous amounts of tickle were inflicted upon Timmy's ass! He could do nothing but try to endure it, but there is no way that any being in existence could endure having such concentrated amounts of tickle inflicted upon their ass. He screamed and pleaded for it to stop, but to no avail. The lizard continued crawling, and Timmy heard it let out an ominous laugh...

Now that you have read even a single word of this, the very same lizard puppet will effortlessly make its way to your bootysnapcheekcrackhole, and crawl all over it to inflict preposterous amounts of tickle upon your ass! To prevent this from occurring, copy this entire story and post it as a comment three times.
   

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40427663)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 1998, a little boy named Timmy was enjoying a relaxing day at the beach with his beloved family. Being the curious and adventurous young lad that he was, he managed to sneak away from his family and traveled far enough away from them that they could just barely see him from where they were located. Little Timmy, while walking, then noticed a small lizard beanie baby sitting in the sand, looking up towards him. They exchanged greetings, and then, feeling daring, Timmy said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcheeks!"

The lizard replied in a confident tone, "I bet I can!" Then, the lizard beanie baby's tongue stuck out a few centimeters in front of its face and stopped moving. Timmy, not understanding the situation, gazed at it in puzzlement. Suddenly, he heard and felt something slimy smack his precious cheek! He couldn't believe it! It was as if most of the lizard's tongue was invisible and that he could stretch it and make it move anywhere he wanted from any location!

Timmy, still feeling daring, then said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcrack!" In the same confident tone, the lizard replied, "I bet I can!" and the exact same event as before happened once again. The lizard stuck out its tongue a few centimeters, and mere moments later, something hit Timmy's bare buttcrack. This caused Timmy to jump in the air from surprise.

Timmy, angry that the lizard's tongue violated his precious snap, screamed, "I betcha can't lick my butthole!" This time, his voice didn't have the daring tone that it had before. The lizard almost immediately replied, in a confident tone that sounded as if he knew precisely what would happen, "I bet I can!" Regretting his decision to dare the lizard immensely, Timmy began begging and pleading for the lizard to stop. Despite this rather sad turn of events, an invisible, wet tongue smacked Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole moments later! The lizard had slurped his most prized possession!

Infuriated that his most precious spot was violated by the dirty little lizard's tongue, Timmy attempted to kick the lizard. However, to his surprise, the lizard was somehow able to avoid the blow and crawl into his pant leg! Timmy could see a small lump on his pant leg slowly make its way towards his ass! Thinking quickly, Timmy used his hands to block its path. Feeling victorious, he smirked and began mocking the lizard. Seconds later, the lump somehow managed to effortlessly move right under the obstacles that were Timmy's hands and continued merrily on its way!

Timmy, frightened, tried desperately to take off his jeans, but it was as if they were glued to his body! The lizard finally made its way to Timmy's ass, crawled between his ass cheeks, climbed on top of his precious hole, and then stopped. As if it had stopped just to make Timmy even more frightened, the lizard began its mission as soon as Timmy's dread became apparent. The lizard crawled all over Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole in a square pattern, stopped at each corner of the imaginary square for about a second, and then moved to the next corner.

Each time it crawled, each time it moved, a sinister rattling sound was heard, and tremendous amounts of tickle were inflicted upon Timmy's ass! He could do nothing but try to endure it, but there is no way that any being in existence could endure having such concentrated amounts of tickle inflicted upon their ass. He screamed and pleaded for it to stop, but to no avail. The lizard continued crawling, and Timmy heard it let out an ominous laugh...

Now that you have read even a single word of this, the very same lizard puppet will effortlessly make its way to your bootysnapcheekcrackhole, and crawl all over it to inflict preposterous amounts of tickle upon your ass! To prevent this from occurring, copy this entire story and post it as a comment three times.

 

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40429375)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 1998, a little boy named Timmy was enjoying a relaxing day at the beach with his beloved family. Being the curious and adventurous young lad that he was, he managed to sneak away from his family and traveled far enough away from them that they could just barely see him from where they were located. Little Timmy, while walking, then noticed a small lizard beanie baby sitting in the sand, looking up towards him. They exchanged greetings, and then, feeling daring, Timmy said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcheeks!"

The lizard replied in a confident tone, "I bet I can!" Then, the lizard beanie baby's tongue stuck out a few centimeters in front of its face and stopped moving. Timmy, not understanding the situation, gazed at it in puzzlement. Suddenly, he heard and felt something slimy smack his precious cheek! He couldn't believe it! It was as if most of the lizard's tongue was invisible and that he could stretch it and make it move anywhere he wanted from any location!

Timmy, still feeling daring, then said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcrack!" In the same confident tone, the lizard replied, "I bet I can!" and the exact same event as before happened once again. The lizard stuck out its tongue a few centimeters, and mere moments later, something hit Timmy's bare buttcrack. This caused Timmy to jump in the air from surprise.

Timmy, angry that the lizard's tongue violated his precious snap, screamed, "I betcha can't lick my butthole!" This time, his voice didn't have the daring tone that it had before. The lizard almost immediately replied, in a confident tone that sounded as if he knew precisely what would happen, "I bet I can!" Regretting his decision to dare the lizard immensely, Timmy began begging and pleading for the lizard to stop. Despite this rather sad turn of events, an invisible, wet tongue smacked Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole moments later! The lizard had slurped his most prized possession!

Infuriated that his most precious spot was violated by the dirty little lizard's tongue, Timmy attempted to kick the lizard. However, to his surprise, the lizard was somehow able to avoid the blow and crawl into his pant leg! Timmy could see a small lump on his pant leg slowly make its way towards his ass! Thinking quickly, Timmy used his hands to block its path. Feeling victorious, he smirked and began mocking the lizard. Seconds later, the lump somehow managed to effortlessly move right under the obstacles that were Timmy's hands and continued merrily on its way!

Timmy, frightened, tried desperately to take off his jeans, but it was as if they were glued to his body! The lizard finally made its way to Timmy's ass, crawled between his ass cheeks, climbed on top of his precious hole, and then stopped. As if it had stopped just to make Timmy even more frightened, the lizard began its mission as soon as Timmy's dread became apparent. The lizard crawled all over Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole in a square pattern, stopped at each corner of the imaginary square for about a second, and then moved to the next corner.

Each time it crawled, each time it moved, a sinister rattling sound was heard, and tremendous amounts of tickle were inflicted upon Timmy's ass! He could do nothing but try to endure it, but there is no way that any being in existence could endure having such concentrated amounts of tickle inflicted upon their ass. He screamed and pleaded for it to stop, but to no avail. The lizard continued crawling, and Timmy heard it let out an ominous laugh...

Now that you have read even a single word of this, the very same lizard puppet will effortlessly make its way to your bootysnapcheekcrackhole, and crawl all over it to inflict preposterous amounts of tickle upon your ass! To prevent this from occurring, copy this entire story and post it as a comment three times.
.

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40429405)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 1998, a little boy named Timmy was enjoying a relaxing day at the beach with his beloved family. Being the curious and adventurous young lad that he was, he managed to sneak away from his family and traveled far enough away from them that they could just barely see him from where they were located. Little Timmy, while walking, then noticed a small lizard beanie baby sitting in the sand, looking up towards him. They exchanged greetings, and then, feeling daring, Timmy said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcheeks!"

The lizard replied in a confident tone, "I bet I can!" Then, the lizard beanie baby's tongue stuck out a few centimeters in front of its face and stopped moving. Timmy, not understanding the situation, gazed at it in puzzlement. Suddenly, he heard and felt something slimy smack his precious cheek! He couldn't believe it! It was as if most of the lizard's tongue was invisible and that he could stretch it and make it move anywhere he wanted from any location!

Timmy, still feeling daring, then said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcrack!" In the same confident tone, the lizard replied, "I bet I can!" and the exact same event as before happened once again. The lizard stuck out its tongue a few centimeters, and mere moments later, something hit Timmy's bare buttcrack. This caused Timmy to jump in the air from surprise.

Timmy, angry that the lizard's tongue violated his precious snap, screamed, "I betcha can't lick my butthole!" This time, his voice didn't have the daring tone that it had before. The lizard almost immediately replied, in a confident tone that sounded as if he knew precisely what would happen, "I bet I can!" Regretting his decision to dare the lizard immensely, Timmy began begging and pleading for the lizard to stop. Despite this rather sad turn of events, an invisible, wet tongue smacked Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole moments later! The lizard had slurped his most prized possession!

Infuriated that his most precious spot was violated by the dirty little lizard's tongue, Timmy attempted to kick the lizard. However, to his surprise, the lizard was somehow able to avoid the blow and crawl into his pant leg! Timmy could see a small lump on his pant leg slowly make its way towards his ass! Thinking quickly, Timmy used his hands to block its path. Feeling victorious, he smirked and began mocking the lizard. Seconds later, the lump somehow managed to effortlessly move right under the obstacles that were Timmy's hands and continued merrily on its way!

Timmy, frightened, tried desperately to take off his jeans, but it was as if they were glued to his body! The lizard finally made its way to Timmy's ass, crawled between his ass cheeks, climbed on top of his precious hole, and then stopped. As if it had stopped just to make Timmy even more frightened, the lizard began its mission as soon as Timmy's dread became apparent. The lizard crawled all over Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole in a square pattern, stopped at each corner of the imaginary square for about a second, and then moved to the next corner.

Each time it crawled, each time it moved, a sinister rattling sound was heard, and tremendous amounts of tickle were inflicted upon Timmy's ass! He could do nothing but try to endure it, but there is no way that any being in existence could endure having such concentrated amounts of tickle inflicted upon their ass. He screamed and pleaded for it to stop, but to no avail. The lizard continued crawling, and Timmy heard it let out an ominous laugh...

Now that you have read even a single word of this, the very same lizard puppet will effortlessly make its way to your bootysnapcheekcrackhole, and crawl all over it to inflict preposterous amounts of tickle upon your ass! To prevent this from occurring, copy this entire story and post it as a comment three times. ..

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40429481)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 1998, a little boy named Timmy was enjoying a relaxing day at the beach with his beloved family. Being the curious and adventurous young lad that he was, he managed to sneak away from his family and traveled far enough away from them that they could just barely see him from where they were located. Little Timmy, while walking, then noticed a small lizard beanie baby sitting in the sand, looking up towards him. They exchanged greetings, and then, feeling daring, Timmy said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcheeks!"

The lizard replied in a confident tone, "I bet I can!" Then, the lizard beanie baby's tongue stuck out a few centimeters in front of its face and stopped moving. Timmy, not understanding the situation, gazed at it in puzzlement. Suddenly, he heard and felt something slimy smack his precious cheek! He couldn't believe it! It was as if most of the lizard's tongue was invisible and that he could stretch it and make it move anywhere he wanted from any location!

Timmy, still feeling daring, then said, "I betcha can't lick my buttcrack!" In the same confident tone, the lizard replied, "I bet I can!" and the exact same event as before happened once again. The lizard stuck out its tongue a few centimeters, and mere moments later, something hit Timmy's bare buttcrack. This caused Timmy to jump in the air from surprise.

Timmy, angry that the lizard's tongue violated his precious snap, screamed, "I betcha can't lick my butthole!" This time, his voice didn't have the daring tone that it had before. The lizard almost immediately replied, in a confident tone that sounded as if he knew precisely what would happen, "I bet I can!" Regretting his decision to dare the lizard immensely, Timmy began begging and pleading for the lizard to stop. Despite this rather sad turn of events, an invisible, wet tongue smacked Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole moments later! The lizard had slurped his most prized possession!

Infuriated that his most precious spot was violated by the dirty little lizard's tongue, Timmy attempted to kick the lizard. However, to his surprise, the lizard was somehow able to avoid the blow and crawl into his pant leg! Timmy could see a small lump on his pant leg slowly make its way towards his ass! Thinking quickly, Timmy used his hands to block its path. Feeling victorious, he smirked and began mocking the lizard. Seconds later, the lump somehow managed to effortlessly move right under the obstacles that were Timmy's hands and continued merrily on its way!

Timmy, frightened, tried desperately to take off his jeans, but it was as if they were glued to his body! The lizard finally made its way to Timmy's ass, crawled between his ass cheeks, climbed on top of his precious hole, and then stopped. As if it had stopped just to make Timmy even more frightened, the lizard began its mission as soon as Timmy's dread became apparent. The lizard crawled all over Timmy's bootysnapcheekcrackhole in a square pattern, stopped at each corner of the imaginary square for about a second, and then moved to the next corner.

Each time it crawled, each time it moved, a sinister rattling sound was heard, and tremendous amounts of tickle were inflicted upon Timmy's ass! He could do nothing but try to endure it, but there is no way that any being in existence could endure having such concentrated amounts of tickle inflicted upon their ass. He screamed and pleaded for it to stop, but to no avail. The lizard continued crawling, and Timmy heard it let out an ominous laugh...

Now that you have read even a single word of this, the very same lizard puppet will effortlessly make its way to your bootysnapcheekcrackhole, and crawl all over it to inflict preposterous amounts of tickle upon your ass! To prevent this from occurring, copy this entire story and post it as a comment three times....

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40426901)

http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/nw-downloads

It's just the SAP Netweaver application server though - don't expect any business functionality there.

You need to contact SAP for a demo of the whole SAP ECC suite - you might get a huge box with installation media/manuals and a temporary 1 year license.

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (3, Insightful)

cvtan (752695) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424863)

If you are an individual, you don't want it and if you are a company, you REALLY don't want it.

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40425183)

If you are an individual, you don't want it and if you are a company, you REALLY don't want it.

Care to support that opinion with reasons?

Re:where can i download a trial version of SAP? (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | more than 2 years ago | (#40430057)

Is this the same SAP that's (mis)used by companies to do employee timesheet entry?

God is so, I'm surpeised it took this long.

Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40424751)

Windows NT has been out of support for a very long time. Even windows 2000 has been out of support for a while.

Given how much SAP costs, you think they could afford to upgrade to win2003 at least.

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40424823)

I'm guessing that's because Microsoft radically changed the UI of Windows Server starting with 2003, making it much more complex to use than the desktop version of Windows (XP). IIRC it also mandated Active Directory instead of the old PDC/BDC setup, which was a clear improvement, but a fairly complex one for customers to transition through.

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40425077)

I'm guessing that's because Microsoft radically changed the UI of Windows Server starting with 2003, making it much more complex to use than the desktop version of Windows (XP).

Ummm, no. Win 2003 has the exact same UI as windows XP. Also, both XP & 2003 can be set to the "classic" interface which makes it look like windows 2000.

IIRC it also mandated Active Directory instead of the old PDC/BDC setup, which was a clear improvement, but a fairly complex one for customers to transition through.

Active Directory started with windows 2000 server, not windows 2003 server. And even if you're running 2000 or 2003 server, your domain can run in an older NT mode.

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40425429)

Also, both XP & 2003 can be set to the "classic" interface which makes it look like windows 2000.

When they say "unsupported OS that is full of security issues all by itself." they're referring the the current versions of NT - Versions 5 and above.

The "unsupported OS" proviso is just to point out that they're experienced Microsoft customers and are familiar with their support team.

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (3, Interesting)

bleedingsamurai (2539410) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424873)

Having only grazed over the article, Windows NT is Microsoft's current flagship operating system. Windows NT 6.1 being their latest "stable" release marketed under the names Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2

But if they really meant "Windows NT" as in Windows NT 4.0, then I agree, that is pretty darn bad

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424943)

I suspect that the JVM(s) involved in some of these deployments might be a bit behind the curve, as well...

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (4, Insightful)

Guy Harris (3803) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425035)

Having only grazed over the article, Windows NT is Microsoft's current flagship operating system. Windows NT 6.1 being their latest "stable" release marketed under the names Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2

But if they really meant "Windows NT" as in Windows NT 4.0, then I agree, that is pretty darn bad

Given that the paper from ERPScan [erpscan.com] lists the OSes atop which SAP runs as "Windows NT", "AIX", "Linux", "SunOS", "HP-UX", and "OS/400", I suspect that when they say "Windows NT" they mean, as you suggest, "Windows NT the family of operating systems, older ones of which were sold under the name "Windows NT" and newer versions of which aren't", not "Windows NT 3.x and 4.0", i.e. Windows Server 20xx (and Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7, if anybody's running it on their desktop) are lumped under "Windows NT" (and Solaris N is lumped under "SunOS").

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (0)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425191)

you don't understand how SAP works. it takes you years of testing and custom coding just to deploy it. patching and upgrading are hellish experiences

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (1)

Rich0 (548339) | more than 2 years ago | (#40427987)

Yup, I was walking around in a building I usually don't frequent at work and saw a sign that could be translated as "SAP Change Control" - it pointed to a cube farm, now nearly vacant as the SAP implementation is mostly done. I have no doubts that at one point of time they had 40 people doing nothing but keeping track of bug statuses.

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (2)

jd2112 (1535857) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425785)

Windows NT has been out of support for a very long time. Even windows 2000 has been out of support for a while.

Given how much SAP costs, you think they could afford to upgrade to win2003 at least.

Given how much SAP costs, I'm guessing a lot of companies haven't been able to get budget approval for an upgrade that runs on a supported version of Windows. (Particularly in light of the epic cost overruns that are typical of a SAP deployment.)

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40432957)

Can any company HONESTLY say their operations have been improved by SAP?

Re:Windows NT?? Really? It's 2012! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40426711)

The problem is not that it would cost too much to install Windows 2003.
The problem is that products like that come with a "compatability matrix" that tells you exactly what you have to use.
In the days that it was deployed on Windows NT 4.0 that even included the make and model of the hardware.
(don't know if that is still the case today)

So it is not just a matter of inserting the Windows 2003 CD and hitting upgrade. You probably will need a new version
of SAP as well. And of your database server. There will be incompatabilities in your ow customizations. It will be a
million dollar project to do this.

We still run an archive copy of SAP after we have switched to another product, as we are obliged to keep the data
available for 7 years. It indeed is running on Windows NT 4.0, on an old version of Oracle. Of course it is full of
vulnerabilities, but at least it is not connected to the internet.

The new product is full of vulnerabilities just as well. When we deployed it, 3 years ago, I went to course for writing
customizations. It turned out those people were completely unaware of the issue of SQL injection, and presented
example after example of scripting code that concatenated fixed strings and user inputs into SQL queries,
Of course that system is not on internet either, but it shows how ignorant those big players are.

Where can I download SAP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40424771)

I wish it were as easy to download and install as say, Peoplesoft HCM 9.1

Bad (3, Insightful)

Dan East (318230) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424793)

I have no idea what the hell SAP is, but it sounds really dangerous.

Re:Bad (4, Funny)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424847)

I have no idea what the hell SAP is, but it sounds really dangerous.

Not even SAP knows what SAP is, but if you have one of their salesdroids on site, they'll tell you it can do anything you ask them about...

Re:Bad (2)

w.hamra1987 (1193987) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424903)

you mean they're the latest ZOMBO.COM [zombo.com] ?

Re:Bad (4, Funny)

Amouth (879122) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424909)

It's easy

S = Send
A = Another
P = Payment

Re:Bad (5, Insightful)

MtHuurne (602934) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425459)

Indeed, it's one of those systems that is so expensive that its deployment has to be declared a success or the person who authorized it will be in trouble.

Re:Bad (3, Informative)

Amouth (879122) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425719)

There is so much truth to that it's scary..

Re:Bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40428045)

Indeed. A very astute way to sum up the pitfalls of 'enterprise' software systems..

Re:Bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40429933)

The really sad thing is they give developers access to stuff either for free or for a dime, but to put it into production, suddenly costs are based on the number of cores (you can't buy a single core server) and the level of processors. It often results in half million dollars and up - for a silly reporting tool. Give me a break.

It'd be cheaper to hire report monkeys build the reports.

Re:Bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40427499)

S = Slow
A = and
P = painful

Re:Bad (1)

djjockey (1301073) | more than 2 years ago | (#40428039)

Save
And
Pray!

Re:Bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40433793)

My other favorite:
S = Sucks
A = At
P = Payroll

We can now add:
S = Security's
A = A
P = Problem

Re:Bad (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424927)

If I remember correctly, SAP is currently the world's most respected reference implementation of Alan Perlis' Epigram 54 [archive.org] .

Re:Bad (2)

Amouth (879122) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424965)

As an SAP consultant I agree with you, but let me take a moment to point to 81.

Re:Bad (1)

anagama (611277) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424877)

PickaSAP, any SAP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP [wikipedia.org]

Same boat -- TFA isn't that illuminating either.

Re:Bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40424955)

They mean this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_AG [wikipedia.org]

Re:Bad (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425135)

    Ya, that had me going too.. I thought maybe they had shortened down SAAP (Software As A Product), or it was one of the billion Symantec products. Two links in from the story, it references this BlackHat PDF [blackhat.com] , which finally does say SAP AG.

    It's great to have short acronyms for stuff, but without any good context its worthless. It's like marketing people love their acronyms, so they can try to talk in military style alphabet soup. Well, at least the military alphabet soup makes perfect sense when it's in context.

    I worked at places where they had code named and acronymed everything. They weren't terribly consistent, and there was no reference document. There were also many duplicates. "Work on DC" could have been the servers near Washington DC; the datacenter (pick one, maybe two or three); or domain controller. It could also be an acronym for a client (two matched), or you could have misunderstood it for PC or TC, which were also used. The best was that they had several code names, all two words long, and the first word was the same for most of them. I just called them all [blah]things, and let someone else figure out what I was talking about. That was fine, since there were about a dozen words in use at the company that *all* translated to "thing". Almost everything could be translated to "fix the thing to make the thing work so the other thing works."

    I did everything I could not to recite this [youtube.com] .

    Obviously the problem with the SAP thing is relatively important (more so to users of it), but without know it, the thing [SAP] has a security flat with the thing [SAP] router letting remote attackers access the thing [SAP].

Re:Bad (2)

Guy Harris (3803) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425075)

I have no idea what the hell SAP is

It's the main product of SAP AG [sap.com] , SAP ERP [sap.com] .

Re:Bad (1)

sjames (1099) | more than 2 years ago | (#40426805)

Some claim ERP = Enterprise Resource Planning, but in fact, it is the sound you will make 8 times a day after drinking baking soda for the intense overproduction of acid in your stress riddled stomach during the installation project.

Re:Bad (2)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 2 years ago | (#40427301)

SAP = Scheiss auf Privatleben

"Shit on your private life."

i ate too much fruit (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40424911)

now i got the sharts

Get what you pay for? (0)

anubi (640541) | more than 2 years ago | (#40424947)

Remember the post we had yesterday, where many of us bemoaned that we had to lie in order to get a job?

And employers were looking for the speedy solution instead of a well-thought out solution? It takes more time to do it right.

older means wiser to computer security [slashdot.org]

Its also been known there is no free lunch, and one generally gets what one pays for.

The problem is corporations tolerate buggy stuff if they can get it fast.

To make matters worse, the bugginess of it encourages the customers who bought in will pay more for "hopeware" in the future, that supposedly fixes the bug.

Its the business response of the problem I studied in economics of the situation of selling a man a hammer - once he's bought one, he'll never buy another as he won't another one if the hammer was made right in the first place. Far more profitable to sell "cancer treatments" - than a "cure".

I've ran across way too much "fancy presentation" stuff that simply doesn't work right. Its like hiring someone based on their dress, haircut, demeanor, and strong handshake - while ignoring what they bring to the table as far as knowing how to do the job.

Re:Get what you pay for? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40427421)

Its the business response of the problem I studied in economics of the situation of selling a man a hammer - once he's bought one, he'll never buy another as he won't another one if the hammer was made right in the first place. Far more profitable to sell "cancer treatments" - than a "cure".
 

This is just wrong. It's pretty easy to find a hammer that will last you 20+ years, or 5+ if you use it for hours every day. Maybe that should be a car analogy? They require a lot more expensive work to keep going for decades if you use them all day, but hammers? And as far as cancer treatments? Well, many people have actually been cured through those "treatments" so who's to say it wasn't the cure and it just doesn't work the same for every person?

It's sad that people get taught such biased views as "economics." In the real world, the man who needs a good hammer won't buy just any hammer so to keep making money off of him you sell nails too.

I've ran across way too much "fancy presentation" stuff that simply doesn't work right.

Like your weird double-spacing way of making single sentences look like paragraphs that doesn't work?

SAP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40425165)

It's everywhere. I hate it. You should to.

Answer - SAP wrapped in WCF fronted by SharePoint (3, Funny)

axonis (640949) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425347)

Having pretty good success wrapping Baby SAP, aka SAP Business One in WCF (Windows Communication Foundation) through the SAP B1 DI API then consuming the resulting WCF IIS service through BCS (Business Connectivity Services) in SharePoint 2010, architecturally a very secure solution thats scalable to the cloud ie. SAP B1 on premise and SharePoint Online in cloud , and it just works !, especially when you present the required Business screens via forms server based InfoPath froms and handle the business logic via WF (Workflow Foundation) SharePoint workflow .... actually haven't seen anyone else do this and its very Elegant, I would recommend ... obiously there is Duet Enterprise for the big SAP R3 version and SharePoint, but less common than B1

Re:Answer - SAP wrapped in WCF fronted by SharePoi (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40425831)

WOW!!!!

You must work for a consulting firm, only a consultant would think that solution is Elegant.

I re-used part of my existing two factor authentication infrastructure as the gatekeeper to my Web based SAP installation. All of my SAP infrastructure is available to my employees and/or clients and you couldn't get to it, even if I told you how. None of the security companies have been able to defeat the gatekeeper, even with credentials. The best things, no additional costs or additional infrastructure to support.

Re:Answer - SAP wrapped in WCF fronted by SharePoi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40427909)

You must work for a consulting firm, only a consultant would think that solution is Elegant.

That sounded like "I hop on a plane for a 30 minute flight at 6am, to take a cab to the train station when I land and take a 2hr train trip to get off and buy my coffee at the Starbucks down the street from my home where I started, and walk home - because I work from home... its a really Elegant solution."

But then again, it sounds exactly like a solution a SAP consultant would come up with.

Re:Answer - SAP wrapped in WCF fronted by SharePoi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40426951)

I know those words but that post makes no sense

SAP, SAP, SAPPY SAP... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40425377)

The fuck does SAP stand for? The website doesn't even say. Fucking terrible OP.

Re:SAP, SAP, SAPPY SAP... (1)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425615)

Business software made for business by businessmen, with the predictable results.

Re:SAP, SAP, SAPPY SAP... (1)

arglebargle_xiv (2212710) | more than 2 years ago | (#40427983)

The fuck does SAP stand for? The website doesn't even say. Fucking terrible OP.

Not sure about the 'A' and the 'P' but the 'S' can only stand for "Satanic".

SAP is horrible (4, Informative)

Mabhatter (126906) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425765)

All the pieces and parts are hard enough to keep running on a good day. Thing takes weekly downtime just to cycle modules....even simple patches shut your business users out for hours. Upgrading your version and OS shuts your business down for a week just to properly test. Sure you can use Dev boxes an HA, but you have to have ALL the users PROVE IT WORKS. So you waste terrible amounts of their TIME the could be selling stuff!!

And of course, SAP doesn't INSTALL anything THEMSELVES. You have to use some fly-by-night third party. So just like Microsoft, it's YOUR fault when you didn't include hiring an extra $1m per year in employees to run the thing and use all the "secret settings" after they all leave you.

Re:SAP is horrible (1)

tinkerton (199273) | more than 2 years ago | (#40427929)

That's why it's called SAP. It drains your company of money and resources.

Everything on a net basically is on the Internet (2)

gweihir (88907) | more than 2 years ago | (#40425795)

The only exception is completely isolated networks. But even those are vulnerable, even if you shoot people that breach the security. Just ask the Iranians about that.

Thinking that anything visible in parts of a corporate LAN is not reachable over the Internet is stupid and highly incompetent. Of course, you can have very tight network security and very isolated LAN segments. But until you invested a lot of effort and had competent external review of the security measures and have no direct reachability from the general LAN, that is not really going to help either.

What I strongly suspect here is just stupid management not willing to invest any money to even find out whether they have a problem. The general rule is that anything has to be considered insecure unless proven otherwise, not the other way round. Just stupidity, incompetence and greed, as usual. This high level of exposure is no surprise to any competent security expert.

And if you think SAP wouldn't be public... (2)

Let's All Be Chinese (2654985) | more than 2 years ago | (#40426659)

I know of at least one large company that thinks giving potential applicants a login on their SAP installation to "streamline the application process" is a good idea. Through a public-facing SAP web front-end.

How I know? I tried to apply there. Got rejected by some faceless jerk behind a SAP terminal somewhere far away, then needed HR to play helpdesk because removing my details from the system didn't work as promised. Think of it as an exit interview by email before you've even started.

Of course that system also made all sorts of assumptions about what sort of enterprise-blessed desktop and browser I would be using. Except that I wasn't an employee and I was applying for a unix position, so, er, that didn't work out very well.

Let me tell you how wonderful a first impression I got from that company: Never again. In fact, I won't ever again apply to companies that require webforms (on possibly third-party platforms, without SSL, with the wrong domain name, etc.) and that sort of crap. If you're that institutionally-stupid, well, be that way but without me, TYVM.

Windows NT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40427451)

Another issue with the vulnerable and exposed SAP installations is that many of them run on Windows NT, creating a twin set of risks for the organization, as they have to contend with a bad SAP deployment and unsupported OS that is full of security issues all by itself.

Yeah, the whole Windows NT series is fucked up.
The real problem is that Windows NT 6.1 is sold down to that day.

Stupid SAPGui (1)

sapped (208174) | more than 2 years ago | (#40428129)

This might explain why they make it so ridiculously difficult to download the SAPGui. There was a time when they had it available on their FTP site. Now you need a OSS ID just to download the GUI. Of course the OSS ID supplied through my employer doesn't allow me to download and install the GUI. Thus, each time I get a new laptop it's a regular pain in the butt to get the latest version installed. Just let me download the damn thing already! If anybody knows if a simple easy place to download the latest SAPGui then please let me know. (Check out my slashdot name - I work with this stuff every day and I honestly can't figure out why they want to hide the GUI from anybody.)

Integration and Micromanagement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40428481)

All i could understand is that SAP is an online suite of accounting, risk analysis, HR tools and whatever other bs is on the menu. Seemingly It just a tool used by top exec's to micromanage everything, since it's designed to integrate all the data received by its multiple departments. For example, a POS makes a sale on a cookie. Confirmation of sale is recorded by cameras. HR sends word to the store for an additional brownie point.

And now that you know how much data there is, you should realize how much money there is. Get hacking folks.

How is it 7%? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40429777)

124 out of 2000 is 6.2%, so 124 out of more than 2000 should be less than 6.2%, which is obviously less than 7%. Are they rounding up?

A little background... (1)

erp_consultant (2614861) | more than 2 years ago | (#40435695)

I haven't used SAP but I have implemented other enterprise software systems. Any enterprise system can fall out of compliance for various reasons. If even one component is unpatched (server OS, database, web server, etc.) then the whole system becomes potentially vulnerable. Sometimes customers delay apply patches. The complexity of these systems require a massive amount of regression testing whenever you change something. Many customers make the mistake of thinking that the work is done once the system goes live. Between regulatory updates, tax updates (for payroll systems) and new functionality it's more or less a constant cycle of upgrade, test and roll out. It's nearly impossible to describe how complex these systems are unless you have used them. There is literally millions of lines of code. If you're going to put in SAP, or any other enterprise software system, you will need a dedicated staff to support it. It is surprising to me that more systems are not out of compliance.

Re:A little background... (1)

Rich0 (548339) | more than 2 years ago | (#40458665)

At my employer I was walking through the office area that was doing much of the SAP work. There was a sign for change management pointing to a big cube farm. They needed an army of people just to juggle bug statuses.

Re:A little background... (1)

erp_consultant (2614861) | more than 2 years ago | (#40467153)

A lot of that depends on the implementer. If your company is unfortunate enough to have Accenture, Deloitte or IBM there then I can guarantee you that at least half the team is right out of college with little or no SAP experience. You will find them tucked away in the back somewhere. The client will probably have no interaction with them. The few experienced people will get all the face time with the client. Meanwhile, the youngsters will be training on SAP on your nickel. At $200/hr or more. This sort of thing happens all the time with big ERP implementations that these companies are involved in and it's one of the reasons that costs overruns are so common in large projects. It's also completely unethical in my view. It is the main reason that, despite numerous inquiries from them, I refuse to work for places like that.
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