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Asus Joins High Density Display Club With New Transformer Tablet

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the like-a-laptop-but-give-us-more-money dept.

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crookedvulture writes "The new iPad has received a lot of attention for its high-density display, but it's not the only tablet with extra pixels. Enter Asus' Transformer Prime Infinity, which has a 10.1" screen with a 1920x1200 resolution. The display doesn't look as good as the iPad's Retina panel, which has crisper text and better color reproduction. However, the Android-based Transformer has perks the iPad lacks, like an ultra-bright backlight, a Micro HDMI port, a microSD slot, and more internal storage. The Infinity is also compatible with an optional keyboard dock that adds six hours of battery life, a touchpad, a full-sized SD slot, and a standard USB port. The Transformer's tablet component is definitely no iPad-killer. When combined with the dock, though, the resulting hybrid offers a much more flexible computing platform."

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why not have full size hdmi? (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446029)

why not have full size hdmi? you have full size USB.

Re:why not have full size hdmi? (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446085)

Huh? Specs show no USB, much less full sized.

Re:why not have full size hdmi? (4, Informative)

Hardhead_7 (987030) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446297)

The full size USB port is on the "lapdock." Once docked, it basically has a full keyboard (better than most netbooks I've used) and a full sized usb port. With a USB to Serial adapter, I use mine to connect to Cisco switches quite often.

Re:why not have full size hdmi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446649)

You use your what? Your Transformer Prime Infinity? That's interesting since they aren't being released until July 16th and most of the major review sites haven't even been able to get their hands on a review unit yet.

Re:why not have full size hdmi? (2)

Vylen (800165) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446809)

Hardhead_7 is probably referring to the Prime Infinity's predecessor which uses the same "lapdock".

Re:why not have full size hdmi? (1)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446975)

I think this is at least the fourth Transformer model, isn't it?

Re:why not have full size hdmi? (1)

chrylis (262281) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446789)

What app(s) do you use for a serial terminal?

Re:why not have full size hdmi? (1)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447889)

I use BlueTerm for my Arduino stuff. There's a few other terminal emulators around.

Re:why not have full size hdmi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446103)

The USB port is on the dock, while I am given the believe that the micro-HDMI port is directly on the tablet component, which has a thinner form factor, hence the micro-necessity.

Re:why not have full size hdmi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446377)

Size, I don't have a transformer, but my Table has a Micro HDMI port and the USB port is a USB to go port, a full size USB or HDMI port just wouldn't fit without making the tablet a bit thinner than a full laptop.

" high density club" not really (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447175)

The "transformer prime infinity" ( kinda like Dundee middling infinity) has 2 million pixels, while the iPad has three million pixels. Not quite the same club, is it? The tpi is barely HD.

Re:" high density club" not really (4, Informative)

Nursie (632944) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447945)

In which universe does "higher resolution than any of the current HD standards" equate to "barely HD"?

Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big deal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446047)

You can use any Bluetooth keyboard with the iPad and battery docks are a dime a dozen....

http://www.kensington.com/kensington/us/us/p/1452/K39249US/powerback-battery-case-with-kickstand-and-dock.aspx

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (1)

RanCossack (1138431) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446167)

You can also use bluetooth keyboards with this. It is more like the Brydge, only, well, first party: http://thebrydge.com/ [thebrydge.com]

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (4, Insightful)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446251)

You can use any Bluetooth keyboard with the iPad and battery docks are a dime a dozen....

Because the keyboard dock turns it into an Android netbook, rather than a kludgy collection of knocked-together addons where you have to support the display with your knees?

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (1)

Karlt1 (231423) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446329)

So pairing a Bluetooth keyboard and a using a stand makes it a "kludge"?

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (5, Insightful)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446401)

So pairing a Bluetooth keyboard and a using a stand makes it a "kludge"?

Uh, yes. Is this supposed to be a trick question?

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447113)

pwnd!

What's the big deal? (1)

mveloso (325617) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447275)

With the right add-ons you can do everything this device does...except expand the internal storage. Kludge? Hardly.

Re:What's the big deal? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447393)

There is no add-on for iPad that lets you do what this one does, namely use it while holding it on your laps conveniently like you would with a laptop.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (1)

Garble Snarky (715674) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446409)

Some people are still more comfortable with the laptop form factor, and a discrete keyboard and stand do not replace that design. Maybe the laptop form factor is outdated and dying, maybe not, I don't know. But as of now there are enough people who at least want to keep that an option.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446615)

Some people are still more comfortable with the laptop form factor, and a discrete keyboard and stand do not replace that design. Maybe the laptop form factor is outdated and dying, maybe not, I don't know. But as of now there are enough people who at least want to keep that an option.

Then those people should buy a laptop not an Anus Transformer with is both a piece of shit tablet and piece of shit laptop.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (2)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446983)

No, it's a pretty good Android tablet and a not so good netbook.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (0)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447779)

plop ubuntu on it and you have a pretty decent netbook and a not-so-good tablet :)

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (2)

TempestRose (1187397) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447827)

I would go so far as to say that my TF101 is a pretty good Android tablet that can double as a pretty good Android netbook. Seriously, I do love my transformer . The screen is a bit hard to use as a touchpad while docked, but not really that tough to use, unless you have CTS. The keyboard, for me, more than makes up for the awkwardness of the keyboard. Oh, and if you REALLY need a pad, you just, you know, take it out of the dock. If this one improves on the TF101, so much the better in my book.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446673)

I'm tempted even now to buy a USB or Bluetooth keyboard for my laptop. Basically so that I could elevate the monitor and have the keyboard in my lap. One of the main issues with laptops is ergonomics, all that looking down with your head and reaching up with your hands isn't good for you at all.

But, OTOH, sometimes you really do need them to be connected like on the bus.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (1)

symbolset (646467) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446869)

It's handy for watching movies in bed.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447465)

I do know. The laptop form factor isn't dying. It's just being sold to us piecemeal. The first thing people get for their new iPad is a case that stands the damn thing up. The next thing they buy is a keyboard. (Or a second charger but shut up I'm making a point here.) They are just rebuilding the laptop. The transformer is the best proof of that. People want a laptop that isn't a laptop.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (1)

Tough Love (215404) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447721)

Some people are still more comfortable with the laptop form factor, and a discrete keyboard and stand do not replace that design.

I find that it does. The only remaining issues I have are software ones... mainly, why does this have to run a cutdown hack of a UI instead of a standard UI agumented with touchscreen support?

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (2)

Anubis IV (1279820) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446621)

And at $149, it's a super-affordable accessory and doesn't push the total price up into the range of really low-end ultrabooks that have the same form factor but are likely more powerful and more compatible with software that sort of user would actually be using.

Oh. Wait.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (1)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447873)

Where?

They say this will start at $499 and the dock puts this at about $650. What really low-end ultrabook that havs more performance and software, which I guess is a full OS like Windows 7?

I know there are 10.1 inch tablets out there like the Latitude XT, but I am curious what you think is close to $650 and better, because the Latitude XT is nowhere close to that with a dock.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (1)

maccodemonkey (1438585) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447067)

http://clamcase.com/ [clamcase.com]

Magic!

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (1)

Tough Love (215404) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447703)

...the keyboard dock turns it into an Android netbook, rather than a kludgy collection of knocked-together addons where you have to support the display with your knees?

Xoom's portfolio case takes care of this nicely, it is rugged, stable and light.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446333)

Right, because there are ergonomic ways to do that.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446567)

Do you like sending your passwords over bluetooth? What about SSH?

Bluetooth keyboards: because I hate my security and want to get hacked.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (5, Informative)

JackAxe (689361) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447051)

Because along with a keyboard, it adds a track-pad, full size USB ports, "another" slot for storage expansion, and of course another full day battery. It also folds up nicely similar to a netbook for protection.

It's an actual accessory designed specifically for this particular tablet, not some 3rd party attachment designed to try and fill a void.

The keyboard and track-pad play nicely with the OS. The keyboard offers plenty of shortcuts for the OS and the track-pad offers a pointer -- which can be toggled on or off with a keyboard button; Android supports pointer input along with multi-toch unlike iOS.

And because it's Android, one can plug a hard-drive, thumb-drive, another keyboard, mouse, whatever into the added USB ports, and of course the tablet itself has Bluetooth support. So the doc makes this more than a tablet.

I own an Asus Transformer, iPad, and a few other tablets for reference. The iPad is a great for what it does, but for what I like to do, it falls way short of my Android tablets. Just adding on a Bluetooth keyboard or extending the battery to an iPad doesn't resolve its shortcomings.

Re:Why do they act like a keyboar dock is a big de (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447885)

Geeks still don't get it. iPads are not for them.

I played with iPad competitors every time I can. Within seconds or minutes, it should be easy to see why, despite more checks on a feature list, they suck for the type of market iPad is geared for.

Ever since iPad came out it was amusing to listen to the nerdrage that a major electronics company had the audacity to release a major product that isn't catered to them.

Sadly so few (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446143)

are able to read the language of the primes.

Definitely not iPad killer? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446147)

Ok. I get it. You have to compare it to the defacto tablet, the iPad. But really? The summary is more opinion with a few marks of fact about the tablet, all comparing it to what the iPad does. Just say what the damn thing stands on in its own merits and let the reviewers give opinion. The summary comes off more as a damn review than a fucking news post. I haven't even checked the fucking article, because if the summary is any indication, this is a bullshit article compared to others out there on the same thing...

Re:Definitely not iPad killer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447179)

I know. Everywhere I look, Yak yak yak. iPad this, iPhone that. No I don't want to win a freeking iPad.? So many grassroots marketing dollars spent trying to carpet over the child-corpses from FoxConn and convince us that the iPad is relevant to anyone but arty types and fanbois. :-( Stop advertising the freeking thing - Just STOP. Saturation was reached five-fold. Even chimpanzees are trying to sell their bananas to buy one because they think that will buy them an exclusion from seeing snapple marketing.

Re:Definitely not iPad killer? (4, Interesting)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447831)

damn good point. my wife has an iPad, i have a netbook. she uses her iPad for her personal and business stuff 90% of the time, but 10% of the time she's swearing at the thing and grabbing the netbook from me.

the thing that kills iPads for me is the lack of a filesystem, the lack of proper multitasking (my 13 month old is the only one of us able to correctly swipe between apps consistently), afterthought implementations of essential functions like copypaste, and in-text editing is a pain in the arse - it's quicker to retype the sentence (including backspacing over it) then to select a bit of a word and type in 2 letters.

it's not bad for the 90%, but the 10% is not going away, no matter how much marketing is thrown at it. i'm sick to death of the Apple catch-cry of "why would anybody want to do that?" whenever confronted by a thing i do every day that their gear can't do.

battery dock??? (1)

sribe (304414) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446169)

In what circumstances does this make sense? It seems to me that when you're docking, you're going to be next to a power outlet.

Re:battery dock??? (2)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446283)

That's simply not true. I carry my laptop around with me many times without having it plugged in, even around the house. The circumstances are when you're using it as a portable computer instead of as a tablet--emphasis on portable--and not just as a lightweight desktop workstation.

Re:battery dock??? (1)

sribe (304414) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446903)

I carry my laptop around with me many times without having it plugged in, even around the house.

So do I. Yet whenever I want to plug other stuff into it I'm near power.

Re:battery dock??? (1)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447385)

Have you seen the Transformer? Do you know what the concept is behind it? You don't really plug much of anything else into it, except maybe headphones. What exactly do you think you're going to be plugging into it?

In your original message, you mentioned "docking." You seem to be under the mistaken impression that "docking" the Transformer is like docking a laptop into a docking station. That is not what it is at all. You are docking the tablet part of it into a keyboard/battery part that essentially turns it from a tablet into an Android-based laptop. If you dockect that into something else, I guess you could argue that that something else will probably be close to power. As it is, though, the "docked" Transformer is basically just a laptop--which is used in many situations where you're not close to power and portability is the key.

Re:battery dock??? (4, Insightful)

Hardhead_7 (987030) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446347)

As an owner, in my experience the nice thing about the battery dock is that you don't *have* to be near an outlet. All the internals of the tablet are in the tablet itself, so the keyboard/battery dock is just that. A keyboard with a big battery. So you can juice it up overnight and drop it into your bag when you leave the next morning. For someone like me, a field engineer, that's a godsend. I never know when I'll be near an outlet. Now, admittedly, I may be a special case. But it's definitely nice for someone who's on the move quite a bit.

Re:battery dock??? (-1, Troll)

sribe (304414) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446917)

Now, admittedly, I may be a special case. But it's definitely nice for someone who's on the move quite a bit.

So, much of the dock functionality is useless, but you want a keyboard and a big battery, and it has that in one package. OK.

Re:battery dock??? (1)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447017)

So, much of the dock functionality is useless, but you want a keyboard and a big battery, and it has that in one package. OK.

If you're going to use the dock all the time, you'd be better off buying a netbook. But it's very useful when you do want a proper keyboard and more battery life.

Re:battery dock??? (1)

LordKronos (470910) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447437)

If you're going to use the dock all the time, you'd be better off buying a netbook. But it's very useful when you do want a proper keyboard and more battery life.

Possibly, but not necessarily true. Are there any netbooks with a touchscreen? I personally find keyboard + touchscreen (with occasional touchpad use mixed in) to be much better than keyboard + touchpad. Thats one thing I love about my Transformer Prime.

Re:battery dock??? (1)

Shados (741919) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447645)

I actually replaced my netbook with the Transformer Prime (which isn't nearly as nice as this one, and has a few issues the Infinity is supposed to fix), and I did so because Android on that Tegra 3 is way faster than Windows on most netbook CPUs, while still having the insane -mainstream- app ecosystem (that Linux doesn't have).

And then i can remove the dock and get a tablet form factor. Bonus.

Re:battery dock??? (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447841)

sort of, but you'll be down 1 battery...

Re:battery dock??? (4, Insightful)

aus_jackd (1141789) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447397)

I agree with you. I absolutely love my Transformer Prime for the fact that I can charge it overnight and use it all day without having to recharge.

I spend perhaps 3-4 days a week in my car, visiting clients and attending trade shows etc. I never have to worry about the charge on my Prime. Does email, Citrix client, word processing, spreadsheets etc.

I also recently flew to China. On a budget airline that had no personal entertainment options, for over 10 hours. I watched several hours of TV shows during the flight. When I landed I still had more than 50% battery remaining. I stayed in several hotels with no Wifi. They had free internet over Ethernet only. A $6 USB-Ethernet adapter later and I was away. Moreover I was able to load photos from my camera directly onto the tablet through the full sized SD card slot and show them to clients/friends/family on the larger tablet screen.

At night I just left the keyboard dock in my luggage and just carried the tablet around. Visited a cafe or a bar, read a novel, surf on free WiFi. No recharging needed because during the day I had depleted the keyboard battery and not the tablet battery.

There are many reasons one would choose this form factor. I love it.

Re:battery dock??? (0)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447847)

that reads like you're using it while driving... i'm hoping that's not the case :)

Re:battery dock??? (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447835)

it makes sense when you're out and about and want to use the keyboard attachment - click the tablet into the keyboard, and suddenly you have an extra 8 hours of battery.

Not even the same thing. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446221)

I don't understand why anyone would think 1920 x 1200 is high res. I've got two monitors sitting on my desk right now running at 1920 x 1200, and they've been setting there for two years. Woop-de-doo.

Re:Not even the same thing. (1)

Vylen (800165) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446363)

It might not be so high-res when looking at the number without context, however, on a 10.1 inch screen, it translates to high DPI. Your monitors are most likely at least 24 inches in size.

High DPI vs. Standard DPI.. that's where the whoop-de-doo comes from.

Re:Not even the same thing. (1)

Ignacio (1465) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446375)

Two 10.1" monitors? Doubt it.

Re:Not even the same thing. (1)

JamesTRexx (675890) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446447)

That's because marketing made HD television resolutions the standard so any resolution that was a normal option for laptops +/- 10 years ago (1600x1200 and 1920x1200) is now considered special again.

I mainly use my laptops to work and read so I want/need high resolution. Please keep the retarded multimedia formats only in the multimedia hardware section.

Re:Not even the same thing. (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447235)

It's high res because it's a 10.1" screen. By my math thats 5.35"x8.56", at 16:10. With 1920x1200 pixels, that's 224DPI. That's magazine quality. A 24" 16:10 monitor at the same DPI would be about 4560x2850.

Re:Not even the same thing. (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447861)

commercial presses standardize their input at 300dpi... just saying.

what comes off the press is often a bit less than that, but it's hard to place it with offset printing (except for black-only text, which is often well above 300dpi)

We don't need to "kill" anything (5, Interesting)

humanrev (2606607) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446241)

The Transformer's tablet component is definitely no iPad-killer.

What's this obsession in the media with regards to consumer tech (phones, tablets, portable music players) in which products different to the current market leader are qualified as to whether or not that are a -killer? In the case of tablets, the iPad has its strength and weaknesses, and although it seems like a good all-round device it's not for everyone. Some people want more ports, more expandability, something a bit more like a portable computer than a portable appliance (which the iPad is marketed as). In this case it doesn't need to "kill" the market leader - it just has to offer something different that people want. In this way, we have choice.

Now of course it will be compared to the iPad, but what's this obsession that if you're not the market leader, you're not worth buying? If that were the case there'd be no market for Android phones, or even WM7 phones. Is there perhaps some deep-seated personal feeling that if you don't buy number one, you're by extension not a winner and instead a second-class individual? Or is it just the apps?

Re:We don't need to "kill" anything (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446461)

Because iPad is dominating tablet market, a market that's growing 330% per year and is set to sell more units than traditional PCs by 2015. So everything will be compared to iPad.

Re:We don't need to "kill" anything (2, Interesting)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446795)

I have tried and tried and tried to eke out some semblance of productivity from my Xoom and my iPad for the last year and I have finally come to accept the futility of the attempt. The issues are two-fold. First, an ARM processor, even a modern Tegra2/Tegra3 is barely better than an Atom so even if you were to install some form of Linux on the Xoom and get all hardware working, you would still only have something that would choke on more than 5 tabs in the web browser and you can forget any real Eclipse or Gimp or whatever work. The closest I've gotten to that is a chroot and a very good VNC client that approximated a native setup to within 85 percent of the real thing and it is just isn't there. To do real work you need real power. I utterly despise MS to the very fiber of my being but if the only way I am going to get a tablet with the word "Core" in the processor name is to get something that comes with Windows then I might have to swallow my pride and do it. Of course, I'll wipe that sucker and put Linux on it faster than your head can spin but then I'm locked out of a touch native ecosystem. Maybe something like Bluestacks can come out for Linux and fill the gap. Speaking of which, wasn't Canonical talking about bringing an Android runtime to Ubuntu several years ago? What happened to that?

Re:We don't need to "kill" anything (1)

jasno (124830) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446913)

As soon as someone comes out with a tablet that runs android and has a >7" retina screen I'm buying one. Why? PDFs. I read a fair amount of datasheets and it would be nice to have a second display I can carry with me for that. Why not e-ink? Too slow. It's too hard to zip from one section to another or to skim the material.

Second excuse - my wrists hurt, and it would be nice to browse reddit on something other than a PC/laptop.

Re:We don't need to "kill" anything (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447567)

Since 'Retina' displays are an Apple trademark it's unlikely an Android tablet will ever have it. What resolution are you interested in rather than a marketing term?

Re:We don't need to "kill" anything (1)

humanrev (2606607) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447073)

Because iPad is dominating tablet market, a market that's growing 330% per year and is set to sell more units than traditional PCs by 2015. So everything will be compared to iPad.

Like I said, it's obvious that it will be compared to the iPad (hardly a crime to do so). But the idea that they have to topple the product (i.e. become an iPad-killer) and if they don't then they're not worth being fabrication in the first place, seems to be very short-sighted to me. As if they can't carve out their own market with those who aren't satisfied with what the iPad offers.

Re:We don't need to "kill" anything (1)

Vylen (800165) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446613)

The obsession is due to it being human nature to see who can topple over who's the top.

The iPad is the market leader - people want to see who can bring an end to Apples domination over tablet sales.

Re:We don't need to "kill" anything (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446783)

Do you have an obsession with who is going to knock over the current leader in ketchup? How about bread? Gasoline? Maybe from the tech side: printers?

There's something more going on than just "whoever is on top in a given category." Personally, I blame Gates and Osborne. One said (paraphrasing), "there can be only one," then worked hard to try to make that come true. The other convinced people of how important is was to be on a (the) winning side. I

Re:We don't need to "kill" anything (1)

feepness (543479) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447233)

Now of course it will be compared to the iPad, but what's this obsession that if you're not the market leader, you're not worth buying? If that were the case there'd be no market for Android phones, or even WM7 phones.

Actually, looking at phones, Android is the market leader.

Re:We don't need to "kill" anything (1)

humanrev (2606607) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447349)

Perhaps, but as far as what media and marketing use when they want to use a picture of a smartphone, they'll use an iPhone. It's also safe money that if you pick a random group of smartphone users, at least half will have an iPhone. I say this as a (reasonably) happy Galaxy S2 user. I think I've seen one person so far use a WM7 phone.

Re:We don't need to "kill" anything (1)

rgmoore (133276) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447741)

Actually, looking at phones, Android is the market leader.

Now it is, but would it have gotten there if everyone had the attitude that they needed to pick the market leader or nothing? Maybe the iPhone would have managed to overtake the Blackberry that way- it was clearly more popular from the day it was introduced- but Android took a long time to get really competitive. Would Google have kept pursuing that market for as long as they did if nobody bought their phones until they were better than the iPhone? Would they have been able to make them competitive with the iPhone if they hadn't been selling enough phones to get some useful customer feedback?

Transformer (4, Funny)

arcite (661011) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446275)

Clearly, its more than meets the eye.

WUXGA finally (again) ! (3, Insightful)

spongman (182339) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446315)

finally the 16:9 fad is over. maybe soon i'll be able to replace my 15" WUXGA D830...

Re:WUXGA finally (again) ! (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446417)

I tore apart my WUXGA D830 with nvidia graphics apart with my bare hands....damn thing always overheated and one day I had had enough.

Re:WUXGA finally (again) ! (1)

spongman (182339) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446525)

sorry to hear that. i had the same thing happen to me a while back. i took it apart and cleaned out the heatsync and it was as good as new...

i have replaced the motherboard since then, though. i'd love to get a new machine, but I can't bare to lose the WUXGA :(

Re:WUXGA finally (again) ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446583)

The closest computer mutilation I have come to is a Dell mouse and partially a graphics card, also a Seagate external case. (GOD DAMN THOSE THINGS ARE TANKS! WHY?!)

The Dell mouse was unbalanced for god knows what reason. It annoyed me stupid.
I eventually just removed the USB, swung the mouse around and straight off the wall. Shattered in to god knows how many pieces.
I never did find one part of it.
I just recently found the casing for it and the hard drive.

Graphics cards fan wire was hitting the blades.
It was also vibrating a little.
I tried 3 separate times to fix it, but it always returned.
I ripped the entire fan off and crushed it in my hands.
Luckily I had bought a replacement fan I held on to for a year which I never used until just that time.
I also put the fan in a completely different position and it runs so much cooler. A whole 15C cooler on average. Up yours Nvidia.

Seagate. I don't think I need to explain why. Stupid crappy USB interfaces that break so easily.
Also never buying anything from them ever again. That and another 2 hard drives were my lessons. Worthless company. I have hard drives older than my sister that have lasted longer than all 3 of them. (just accessed a 40gig drive which had been sitting in storage for years just last week, works fine)

The rage from computers sometimes just makes me want to go psycho against all electronics around me.
You'd think people making these things would have tried to make things effortless. Yet drivers are still a problem even today. Honestly...

Re:WUXGA finally (again) ! (2)

viperidaenz (2515578) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446851)

Sounds like you have two problems. 1) Anger management issues and 2) Lack of DIY skills.

Halfway there. (1, Interesting)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446439)

Not enough. I've seen properly produced printed content on The New iPad(tm) and it's like I'm holding a [slightly small] magazine page in my hand. Highly detailed images, razor sharp text. I've been hearing about 2560x1600 10.1" displays from Samsung for over a year and 11.6" for about half a year. 1920x1080 is a real let-down for Android after seeing The New iPad(tm).

Re:Halfway there. (2)

locopuyo (1433631) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446723)

Yeah the resolution is great but I wouldn't go far as to say it is like holding a magazine page. The color gamut and contrast aren't there yet.

Re:Halfway there. (1)

xigxag (167441) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447451)

You're calling it a "real let-down" before even glancing at it. The new iPad only has 28% greater pixel density on the short axis and 7% on the long one. In other words, the TF700 has 27% fewer pixels overall. The difference is probably noticeable for someone with sharp vision, but not huge. In fact, the TF700 has almost the same (slightly more) pixel density as the new "retina" MacBook Pro. So it could share the "retina" moniker were it not trademarked for Apple machines.

Re:Halfway there. (1)

Zaiff Urgulbunger (591514) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447879)

Looking at the zoomed-in screen shots in TFA, I can't help feeling that Apple's font rendering was better even allowing for their higher DPI.

Laptop? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446635)

I'm still holding on to an ancient Dell, simply because nobody builds a replacement in 2012. After 5 years I demand at least equal resolution, and aghast improving on the 1920x1200 WUXGA screen is not an option.

Re:Laptop? (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446811)

I'm still holding on to an ancient Dell, simply because nobody builds a replacement in 2012. After 5 years I demand at least equal resolution, and aghast improving on the 1920x1200 WUXGA screen is not an option.

Have you been to Apple's website lately?

Not news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40446713)

As the article mentions, the Transformer Infinity was announced some six months ago. I've been wanting to buy one ever since, but ASUS still hasn't released it yet.

Too Small (1)

sunfly (1248694) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446717)

I'd like a tablet about the size of a piece of paper or legal pad. Build this in a 13" size (7.8" x 10.4") and I might just buy it!

Re:Too Small (1)

darjen (879890) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446995)

Acer just came out with a 13 inch tablet. Might want to check them out.

Backlight (3, Informative)

philj (13777) | more than 2 years ago | (#40446897)

"However, the Android-based Transformer has perks the iPad lacks, like an ultra-bright backlight" The iPad 3 backlight is very bright. I doubt you could make a brighter display without having a negative affect.

Re:Backlight (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447037)

I doubt you could make a brighter display without having a negative affect.

What is the negative affecting?

Re:Backlight (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447163)

Washed out colors, burning eyeballs, the usual things.

Re:Backlight (1)

Swampash (1131503) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447493)

I've never run my iPad brightness higher than about 60 percent because I want to retain the ability to see. That shit is BRIGHT.

Re:Backlight (3, Informative)

Shados (741919) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447593)

Its mainly for use in plain sunlight. The transformer prime at max brightness indoor will destroy your eyes, but outdoor it just makes it bright enough to see very well even if the sun is behind you. Thats it really :)

A little less bias please. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447063)

Try giving fair descriptions that don't make uneducated people lean more in one direction or the other. Just state the facts and let people decide. a little more like this:

Screen Resolution, Ipad: xxxx, Transformer xxxx
Ram, Ipad: xxxx, Transformer xxxx
CPU, Ipad: xxxx, Transformer xxxx
Ports, Ipad: xxxx, Transformer xxxx
OS, Ipad: xxxx, Transformer xxxx

Your statement ignores the fact that other than 'slightly' higher screen resolution everything else hardware is better in the transformer. In the process trying to make it sound as if there was something the ipad has that the transformer does not. Operating system excluded of course because everyone has a preference.

Acer Iconia Tab A700 got there first (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447117)

Slashgear reviews it here: http://www.slashgear.com/acer-iconia-tab-a700-review-25235533/

Not sure why it got ignored. I'm still waiting for mine to arrive so I can't say much about the "hands on" user experience, but these "cutting edge" Android devices are very similar. Reviews from the last generation of Android Tablets from Acer and Asus suggest that while Asus got the buzz for some reason, Acer actually built a better quality tablet. The Acer Iconia A500 got great reviews for things like the case design, the quality and placement of the stereo speakers, the quality and sturdiness of the pluggable ports (micro USB, power, headphones) - the Asus came across as more cheaply made when the reviewer focused on things like that. Since the specs are otherwise pretty similar, I'm really not sure why the Acer is being ignored. For those interested in quality over buzz, I'd advise you to seek out reviews that focus on the actual build quality of the devices and decide for yourselves which seems better. The few honest reviews I found gave the impression that the Acer Tablets were better constructed than the Asus tablets. Do your research before you commit. Give it a few weeks if you aren't in a hurry.

Tech journalism please die (1)

Swampash (1131503) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447487)

If something's good, tell me it's good. If something's bad, tell me it's bad. Stop trying to be balanced. I'm fucking sick of reviews in the form this thing is amazing... but it's really not that good.

What kind of name is that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447569)

Asus' Transformer Prime Infinity

Sometimes I just miss the days of numbered names.

Sold! (1)

Tough Love (215404) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447677)

It's the tablet I've been waiting for. Somebody inherits my trusty Xoom.

Re:Sold! (1)

Tough Love (215404) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447763)

...well, at least I thought that until I found there's no USB port on the tablet itself. The Xoom will do just fine for now and I'll just keep my wallet shut.

Trickle up now please? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40447781)

Ok, I'm getting really sick of every premium phone, tablet, and small sized laptop, having a far sharper display than my desktop. When are we going to break through the measly ~100 PPI, that's all we've been able to buy for years and years. Most netbooks in the past 3 years have beaten this. ;_;

Still a 1GB ceiling (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | more than 2 years ago | (#40447927)

Does it (a) cost substantially more (b) take up significantly more space (c) drain battery life to use notebook SO-DIMMs?

I'd be nice to have a touchscreen ARM laptop running desktop Linux that doubles as an Android tablet but 1GB for an ultra portable laptop is so 2004!

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