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Facebook Says Your Email Is @Facebook

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the hey-man-that's-not-cool dept.

Facebook 346

beaverdownunder writes "Facebook has been silently changing users' default e-mail addresses to their @facebook.com address in a move that Facebook claims was 'to protect users' and to create 'consistency,' but has been blasted by many bloggers and news outlets as 'Facebook's Lame Attempt To Force Its E-Mail Service On You,' and even characterised the move as a Man-In-The-Middle (MITM) attack on users' private correspondence. From the article: 'Many articles characterized the change as a ham-fisted way for Facebook to push its email system, which it first announced in late 2010. At that time the company said its goal was to integrate conversations across multiple channels of communication — text messages, Facebook chat, email, etc. Facebook seemed surprised by the reaction. 'We basically defaulted to show your Facebook address as we rolled this out, just to keep it consistent for everyone,' said Meredith Chin, Facebook's manager of product communications. 'I'm seeing this whole meme around the idea that it's us pushing for people only to use facebook.com addresses,' Chin said. "That was not our intention. We want people to use whatever's easier for them.''"

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There is not even a way to remove it! (5, Insightful)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451193)

Just went into my profile to try to remove / disable this POS and you are not even given the option to do so...

I am so close to closing my Facebook account it is not even funny anymore.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (5, Informative)

Bill Barth (49178) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451221)

You can't get rid of the address, but you can make it so that no one sees it. You can also display to whomever you like whatever address you like. The settings updates you have to make are pretty straightforward.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451475)

Nobody sees it but everybody knows that given an url https://www.facebook.com/you there is an address at you@facebook.com
The help reads that mail received by that address goes into facebook's messages. That would be good for spammers. I tried sending a mail to myself, still waiting for it to arrive or bounce.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451227)

You can hide it from your timeline and instead display a different one.

Still, this is very bad move by Facebook.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

akboss (823334) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451233)

Just went into my profile to try to remove / disable this POS and you are not even given the option to do so...

I am so close to closing my Facebook account it is not even funny anymore.

you can if your stuck with timeline. Those of us that have been lucky to not have timeline cant change it. BTDT.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (2)

gazbo (517111) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451293)

I don't have timeline. I can change it.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (1)

SteveAyre (209812) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451353)

Well they have to find a way to make you move to timeline, obviously.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451447)

I don't have Timeline and you can prevent it from being displayed. Of course, since Facebook decided not to announce this ahead of time, the default should be it's not displayed.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Sepodati (746220) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451707)

I'm not on timeline and I just edited my settings to not show the @facebook email address.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (5, Insightful)

slyrat (1143997) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451239)

Just went into my profile to try to remove / disable this POS and you are not even given the option to do so...

I am so close to closing my Facebook account it is not even funny anymore.

Join the rest of us that left several months ago because of the increasing number of times that fb thought their views on privacy/settings/defaults was better than yours. At this point I only have a fb id so that I can be invited to events by others. Hopefully some sort of good event system will show up in one of the other social network sites.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (4, Insightful)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451601)

What use is an event system on another social network, when all the event-throwers are on facebook? It's a perfect network effect: People use facebook because people use facebook.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451675)

Jup, still happy about my decision :)

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (5, Informative)

drooling-dog (189103) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451677)

At this point I only have a fb id so that I can be invited to events by others.

Some old-timers once told me of a time when you could have friends and get invited to things without needing the services of a corporation that makes its money by knowing and selling every detail of your life, but I can't imagine how it was ever done.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451697)

Same here. I deleted my account about two months ago. I made a fake account because I play WWF with my girlfriend. Other than that, I don't miss it one bit. Its great to go to the bar and talk to my friends to catch up on life. Looking back, I don't even see a reason to be on Facebook.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (5, Interesting)

pegasustonans (589396) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451249)

I am so close to closing my Facebook account it is not even funny anymore.

Just do it.

I deleted mine over a year ago and haven't missed it for a second.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (5, Insightful)

ai4px (1244212) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451421)

Absolutely... I closed mine over a year ago when I got tired of going back into my privacy settings and ratcheting them back down. The final straw for me was the auto tagging in pictures. With facebook, you are not the customer, you are the product they market to their customers. This is why your privacy settings are undone all the time.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (3, Insightful)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451693)

With social networks, you are not the customer, you are the product they market to their customers.

Don't make the mistake that your details are private. These companies make money selling your information to third parties; That's all they exist for.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (1)

leonbloy (812294) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451719)

Just do it.

I deleted mine over a year ago and haven't missed it for a second.

Obligatory condescending-meme link http://zipmeme.com/meme/25624/ [zipmeme.com] But, yes, and also closed mine and never regretted it.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451251)

go to your profile, select contact information, set it to "only me" and "hidden from profile"

While I think it was a shitty move, lets not get crazy with FUD

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451257)

Yes there is: Click "About" on your profile and scroll down to your email address. Click "Edit" to change them. Click on the circle next to your Facebook email address and change its setting to "Hidden From Timeline". Click on the circle next to your other email addresses and change their settings to "Shown On Timeline". Click the Save button at the bottom of the Edit popup (Don't forget this step).

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451265)

Just went into my profile to try to remove / disable this POS and you are not even given the option to do so...

I am so close to closing my Facebook account it is not even funny anymore.

https://www.facebook.com/editprofile.php?sk=contact make it hidden

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451503)

I can't wait until someone comes up with hardware that is soley used for "social media" of the same type that facebook offers, but where all of YOUR info is kept on YOUR hardware, and shared as you wish, and how you wish. Come on Linux crowd, what can we come up with?

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (4, Informative)

History's Coming To (1059484) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451617)

You're looking for Diaspora [joindiaspora.com] . The idea is that it's a social network just like any other, except you can download the codebase and set up your own version on your own server, then you have complete control of what is/isn't available.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451683)

The FSF is way, way ahead of you. http://www.freedomboxfoundation.org/ [freedomboxfoundation.org]

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451525)

Worked fine for me. Just hid it from my wall. I think people need to take this crap a little LESS personal. I mean if they didn't give you a choice of changing it back I could see complaining. GRANTED....that doesn't mean they are right.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (2, Funny)

gbjbaanb (229885) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451533)

from the BBC's article: [bbc.co.uk]

Users wishing to undo the change can do so by clicking on the "about" link in their profile and then clicking the "edit" button next to their contact information.

They then need to click make their Facebook email address "hidden from timeline" and then - if they wish - make one or more of their other preferred addresses visible.

I think that's pretty obvious... by facebook standards.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451635)

Go to your profile. Select About. Edit your contact information. Next to the FB address, select the circle to display on your Timeline at tell it to go the hell away. Next to the address, if any, you wish to display, select the circle and tell it to display on your timeline. Fixed. Not that you should have had to in the first place.

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451653)

They can do whatever they want. WHo gives a fuck. My facebook account just exists so that people have a way to locate me. It then says in very big letters "I DO NOT USE FACEBOOK SO IF YOU WANT TO REACH ME YOU WILL HAVE TO EMAIL ME AT (address) OR CALL ME IF YOU KNOW MY NUMBER".

Re:There is not even a way to remove it! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451763)

I am so close to closing my Facebook account it is not even funny anymore.

And, as evidenced by the fact that you're talking it up rather than actually DOING something about it, you never will.

No, seriously, we've all seen that attitude before. It's not a question of what they'll have to do to make you quit, it's a betting game of what they'll get away with next for people like you. Quit Facebook or get off the pot.

Bullpoop (5, Insightful)

organgtool (966989) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451207)

"That was not our intention. We want people to use whatever's easier for them.''

Whatever's easier for them is to use the e-mail address that they set up as their default before Facebook screwed with their settings. Changing users' settings without their consent is a great way to lose users. I should know, I dumped my Hotmail account for that very reason.

Re:Bullpoop (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451403)

Changing users' settings without their consent is a great way to lose users

Not for Facebook. They're are to the "social web" as Nestle is to food. They basically own/are everything. It's like when people start a "Boycott Nestle" campaign due to some illicit/immoral practise of the company. You can't boycott them unless you live off home-grown beans forever more.

And so, for may people, Facebook *is* "the web" or "the internet".

And even for us Slashdot folks that may well know better, we're forced to keep a Facebook account due to having friends and family that don't know any better, and can only communicate with us via the medium of Facebook.

Re:Bullpoop (3, Insightful)

Serpents (1831432) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451593)

Forced? I've never had a FB account and never had problems staying in touch with the people I wanted to communicate with. You can always call/text/email/IM them. If you can't be bothered to do as much from time to time, either you're better off without "friends" like them or they're better off without a "friend" like you...

Re:Bullpoop (1)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451433)

I wish they would lose users because of their stupid practice, but I don't think that anyone left on facebook today would leave even if Facebook employees came to pee on their lawn and steal their dog.

Re:Bullpoop (2)

History's Coming To (1059484) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451637)

Facebook is useful in this regard, it's a centralised repository of all the crap that I really can't be bothered by. The only downside is the fact that other (useful) sites slow themselves down by linking to their scripts left right and center.

Re:Bullpoop (4, Interesting)

contrapunctus (907549) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451691)

Also I think facebook really helped reduce chain emails (and forwarded jokes) since all the stupid people just go to facebook and share and leave me alone.

It's hard to hide not caring.... (5, Insightful)

Will Steinhelm (1822174) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451213)

Funny how people are always surprised by the reaction they get when they forget to consider others when making decisions

Re:It's hard to hide not caring.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451237)

Welcome to the Republican Party! Enjoy your stay!

Re:It's hard to hide not caring.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451277)

You make it sound like they didn't do that. Advertisers and governments will love it. More communication data equals better surveillance and more targetted ads.

Re:It's hard to hide not caring.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451289)

They know full well what they are doing and how people will react. Their "surprise" is an act to cover up their nefarious activities. It's the same thing as when some world power violates a treaty or something and then acts all innocent like they didn't mean to do it.

It's nothing new, Facebook does this all the time. Some times people don't even notice (which is Facebook's ultimate triumph and goal).

Re:It's hard to hide not caring.... (5, Insightful)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451513)

Funny how people are always surprised by the reaction they get when they forget to consider others when making decisions

Funny how people are always surprised by the actions others take, when you give others the rights to make your decisions for you.

Re:It's hard to hide not caring.... (0)

SeventhGear (2054850) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451701)

I wish I had mod points for you!

Facebook logic (4, Interesting)

buchner.johannes (1139593) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451219)

'I'm seeing this whole meme around the idea that it's us pushing for people only to use facebook.com addresses,' Chin said. "That was not our intention. We want people to use whatever's easier for them.'

So we made @facebook easiest.

To some degree I understand it though. Facebook hacks/bots becoming more and more common place. For 99% of normal users, they don't just have friends as "friends" ... and every one of those potential hack victims can see your email address and potentially harvest it.

Facebook should be aware by now that users don't like Facebook (the system) forcing some changes onto them, or changing their preferences to something "that is good for you". (See privacy settings, Timeline)

Re:Facebook logic (5, Insightful)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451559)

Facebook should be aware by now that users don't like Facebook (the system) forcing some changes onto them, or changing their preferences to something "that is good for you". (See privacy settings, Timeline)

I'd say experience has taught them the exact opposite.

A forced changes causes a vocal minority to be vocal. A fraction of a percent of the user base might close their accounts, but more likely they just talk about how they're really close to doing it [slashdot.org] . The noise dies down, the vast majority of their active users accept the changes and move on (if they're even aware of them). Facebook wins. A couple months later, rinse and repeat.

It's a great strategy (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451231)

E-mail addresses are surprisingly long-lasting. There are still many vans on German roads with addresses like "XYZ-Plumbing@t-online.de" from the early days of the public internet, when having your own domain was something that would have made you an "internet professional". Getting people to actually use an @facebook.com email address probably guarantees that Facebook will be around in 20 years.

Re:It's a great strategy (2)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451309)

E-mail addresses are surprisingly long-lasting. There are still many vans on German roads

The local US equivalent of your German story is people still paying for AOL to keep their aol screenname / aol email address because they really like it, or its all over their stationary so it would be expensive to change, etc. I would guess your t-online.de is vaguely equivalent in concept to AOL?

Re:It's a great strategy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451405)

T-Online is/was German Telekom's ISP business, with some value added services, so yes, kind of like AOL.

Re:It's a great strategy (1)

History's Coming To (1059484) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451671)

[offtopic] "XYZ-Plumbing" is almost perfectly wrong - if you read the Yellow Pages (UK business directory) you'll find most plumbers are called something like ".......AAAAAAA............111AAA......A.A.A.A.A.AAAA....1111111...11.A1AA1A1...Plumbing" - seriously, it's that silly, it's the result of a long running arms race to get to the front of the listings.

Facebook lies about it's actions..., again (4, Insightful)

Jawnn (445279) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451245)

"...a move that Facebook claims was 'to protect users' and to create 'consistency,' ... Yeah, right. Same shit, different day. I guess the amazing part is that they expect their lies to be believed.

Re:Facebook lies about it's actions..., again (5, Insightful)

localman57 (1340533) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451505)

I guess the amazing part is that they expect their lies to be believed.

I don't think they expect you to believe it...Just tollerate it. Facebook basically assumes that if they piss you off in small enough increments, that only like 10% of people are actively considering quitting at any given time, they can be successful, because the 90% provide enough gravity to pull you back in. But there's a tipping point, and studies show that there really is a disproportionate amount of gravity around "cool kids", the most social people in your family, and other social people who act like "hubs". When these people move, they tend to pull others with them.

The point of this is that FB is not a stock to have in your portfolio. Because they rely on being cool in order to continue to make money. But making more money than they currently make requires doing increasingly uncool things.

The New Evil Empire (1)

Trip6 (1184883) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451255)

How long before FB is hated and flamed as much as MS and Apple on /.?

Re:The New Evil Empire (4, Insightful)

pegasustonans (589396) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451307)

How long before FB is hated and flamed as much as MS and Apple on /.?

Probably not before it slips away into the obscure forgotten Internet shoe-box along with Myspace and Friendster.

Re:The New Evil Empire (0)

DaneM (810927) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451375)

How long before FB is hated and flamed as much as MS and Apple on /.?

You mean, this hasn't already happened?

Hmmm...must be sample bias....

Yay , bring on the spam (4, Interesting)

Monoman (8745) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451291)

"Your Facebook email is based on your public username. Email sent to this address goes to Facebook messages."

http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=224049364288051 [facebook.com]

So if I didn't want a public email address on my FB profile then why would I want one now?

Re:Yay , bring on the spam (4, Insightful)

BetterThanCaesar (625636) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451567)

Your Facebook email is based on your public username.

What this also means is that if you have someone's "public username", you don't need to see their profile to learn their email address. You can get the public username from any search or friend list, concatenate "@facebook.com" to it and start spamming.

Why? (2)

JasterBobaMereel (1102861) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451297)

My primary email is hidden, and a junk dump address anyway

If anyone sends mail to my @facebook address it be ignored ... I have no idea how to even look at this!

Facebook has posting, direct messages, and chat why would I want an email?

Why show everybody you use facebook? (1)

blackest_k (761565) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451299)

Seriously
A facebook email address says one thing about you , you use facebook. So when your boss see's it and sticks in a friend request how do you tactfully say never in a million years.

There has to be a good number of people that you don't really want accessing your facebook page for one reason or another at least you can deny being on facebook if your privacy settings are set secure enough.

Re:Why show everybody you use facebook? (3, Informative)

bannable (1605677) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451361)

Seriously A facebook email address says one thing about you , you use facebook. So when your boss see's it and sticks in a friend request how do you tactfully say never in a million years.

Personally, I would do it by declining the request. It isn't hard. If that isn't option because he's a scumbag, accept and add him to a group with the same privileges as non-friends.

I see dumb people, they're everywhere.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451305)

"We want people to use whatever's easier for them." -- I think they omitted the rest of that comment. I sure felt like it ended "As long as it's @facebook.com, which is why we forced everyone rather than presenting them a choice at login."

My issue with Facebook as a hypocritical daily user, is that Facebook treats the website like it owns everything on it. Other services in the past have instead created a communication platform where an individual could be themselves. Integration, conformity, and consistency just feels like a bad sci fi movie.. a la Orwell...

Re:I see dumb people, they're everywhere.... (1)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451619)

Integration, conformity, and consistency just feels like a bad sci fi movie.. a la Orwell...

On the other hand, Myspace.

Re:I see dumb people, they're everywhere.... (1)

cjjjer (530715) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451749)

"We want people to use whatever's easier for them."

Actually in this day and age that is pretty much true, these days people don't care about settings and options all they care about is if it works. If anything Facebook has done a service, by making these kinds of changes and then power users raising a big stink about it forces clueless users to actually go in and look at the settings to confirm what they have been oblivious about since they first opened an account.

Is there still a ./ effect? (1)

mwooldri (696068) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451315)

Just tried to go to www.facebook.com - and got a 503 error.

In any case I wonder if there is a way to re-direct email to my so-called facebook email address over to someone else at facebook... or elsewhere for that matter?

Let's try (-1, Troll)

boipeza (2670705) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451325)

Why not be open minded and try Facebook email for a couple of days and see if it works well. Then we can judge afterwards. http://www.pezahub.com/ [pezahub.com]

How many people will quit (3, Insightful)

buk110 (904868) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451329)

And how many people threaten to quit are two entirely different things. Unfortunately many people won't even notice these changes let alone care

slashdot (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451333)

slashdot should have email aliases.
I imagine anonymous.coward@slashdot.org would be a pretty popular registration at paywalls. Maybe it already is.

Facebook Down? (1)

kernelfoobar (569784) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451347)

I get a blank page going to facebook.com. Digging a bit deeper, using telnet I get:

Trying 69.171.237.16...
Connected to www.facebook.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET / HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.0 503 No server is available for the request
Server: proxygen/129
content-type: text/plain
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:00:35 GMT
Connection: close
Content-Length: 0

Connection closed by foreign host.
Is it retaliation?

Re:Facebook Down? (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451643)

If facebook went down for more that thirty seconds, we'd all have heard about it. Are you trying to connect at work?

Deleted (5, Insightful)

mfh (56) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451349)

Now that I've been off Facebook for a long time, whenever I see friends we actually have something to talk about, because I have no clue as to what's been going on with them. It's brilliant!

Try it! :)

Re:Deleted (1)

nojayuk (567177) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451471)

Who are these "friends" you speak of so glibly? Should I get some too? Does the "life" store I was directed to sell them? Do they come in six-packs?

Re:Deleted (2)

catmistake (814204) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451509)

You have confirmed what I have known all along...
Facebook is actually an anti-social network.

Likes = Adverts (4, Informative)

Harold Halloway (1047486) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451351)

I hadn't noticed this but in the last week or so I've noticed the appearance of ads masquerading as 'likes'. I'm getting all sorts of shit in my newsfeed on a regular (i.e. daily basis.) FaceBitch is definitely going out of its way to piss off users. Thank goodness for Social Fixer.

Re:Likes = Adverts (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451661)

If they drive off a third of their users but double the income-per-user in the process, that's still a net win for them.

And what-do-you-know, it's PUBLIC. (5, Informative)

DaneM (810927) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451365)

I just checked my own Facebook info page and discovered that while my gmail address was still "Friends/not shown on timeline," my new Facebook address is "Friends/shown on timeline." Depending on exactly is meant by that last bit, it could explain why I'm suddenly getting about double the spam in my Gmail account that I was getting a month ago. (I get email notifications from Facebook sent to me Gmail account, as I suspect most people do.) Thank goodness for good spam filters...

There's a good reason why I ratchet-down my email address' availability on web pages, and apparently Facebook isn't nearly so concerned (which, of course, comes as no great surprise). I'd be curious to know if someone whose normal address is set to "hidden" now has a non-hidden Facebook address.

Also, the line, "We want people to use whatever's easier for them" has a somewhat different meaning when you're actively making it easier for those looking at a user's info page to see the @facebook address, rather than the one the user intentionally put there. Either the staff is oblivious, or they're being dishonest about their intentions. (Not sure, given their track record with privacy and such...)

Re:And what-do-you-know, it's PUBLIC. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451489)

Yes, my primary email addressess is hidden for everybody. After reading this I found my facebook addresses public to my friends.

Re:And what-do-you-know, it's PUBLIC. (1)

inode_buddha (576844) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451539)

"Also, the line, "We want people to use whatever's easier for them" has a somewhat different meaning..."

This raises the question, which people do they want to make it easier for?

Re:And what-do-you-know, it's PUBLIC. (1)

DaneM (810927) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451591)

This raises the question, which people do they want to make it easier for?

Yes, quite.

Better alternative. (0)

Astr4y (962460) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451373)

What Facebook should of done is add their e-mail address as a secondary, and keep their current email set to the default. I'm sure nobody would of complained if they did it this way. Is it really that hard to think of something like this, instead of forcing people to use their email address instead and going behind our backs and changing our personal information? They can't say they didn't expect this kind of reaction, it's too obvious.

I don't have a problem with this (1)

Cro Magnon (467622) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451385)

I'd rather have the FB crap go to a spambox rather than my real email.

I have a question (1)

rossdee (243626) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451411)

I don't have a Facebook acct and don't intend to get one. However it seems that these days the only way to send feedback to TV shows, politicians and other celebrities is to "Like" them on Facebook (and follow them on Twitter).

How can I send an ordinary email to these people?

Re:I have a question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451633)

Those people actually do prefer snailmail. It's not too hard to get your message to those people either. All you need is an envelope, a blank sheet of paper, some glue and scissors to cut out letters from a magazine. Politicians, companies and celebrities seem to respond best, if you keep the messages short and simple. For instance, if you do not agree with taxing policies, or you think a service is too expensive, the short message would be: "Send money to [place]*"

*enter the spot at which you would like to hang out with the recipient of your letter, to talk about your concerns.

Re:I have a question (1)

MilwaukeeMadAss (2521372) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451659)

That's a good question. Seems like the general idea is that if you don't have/want a FB account you might as well be living out in the boonies in a small cabin with a typewriter, AM radio and a hot plate.

Depends on the politician (1)

Tim Ward (514198) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451687)

I make my email address widely available. Oh, and being a grown-up, I do have a LinkedIn profile as well ... but, being a grown-up, I don't do Facebook or Twitter.

Re:I have a question (2)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451771)

Look up their page on Google? Seriously, everyone who is interested in your feedback has an email address. If they are only asking you for "Likes" and feedback on their Facebook profile page, and follow them on Twitter, they are asking you to be a co-marketer for them and nothing else.

I don't know why your wrapped around the axle about not having a FB page for communication if you should need it. You're here on slashdot which, in the words of John Bender, is "sorta social, demented and sad, but social." Go make a profile with your throwaway gmail address (I used the one I use for /. and other online forums), use John Rossdee as your name, and pick a celebrity picture off of Google Images for your profile pic. Done. Now you can reply to all those pages you seem desperate to become part of.

I've had people find the real me off my forum handle, but it's rare and requires actual, targeted effort. It's not that hard, though I think it's only happened twice in over a decade.

I have not returned to facebook in years (1)

sjwest (948274) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451417)

So perhaps when then fb think im a bit dumb since i dont use there site (four years) they will tell me how to rejoin on there email thing (that i dont have access to) rather than to the email i use. I'm good with that foolery.

Facebook falls on its face.. again! (3, Interesting)

atomicxblue (1077017) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451431)

A better way to have handled this would be to send an email to everyone on the site and remind, or in some cases inform, them they have a @facebook.com email address that they can use and display on the site, with a way to display this if they so wish.

Facebook has shown, however, that they have no respect for basic privacy. There are many people that should never have a way to contact us. I wonder how long this will last now that sexual predators will have a way to contact children using this email address without even having to show up on their friends list first.

Re:Facebook falls on its face.. again! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451571)

While your suggestion would have absolutely been better, it wouldn't have served Facebook's interests as well. Their interest is to have the data that people send you in email. To get at that delicious, profitable data, they need to get people to send messages to your facebook email address. What better way to do that then to add it to your profile and mark it public? Now at least some people will send to that address and facebook gets to harvest the data. (Note that many people are saying it was set to public. Mine was set to not show in timeline and was set to friends only).

Facebook is the new AOL (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451483)

they are essentially reverting the internet back to what it was in the mid-90's.

Re:Facebook is the new AOL (3, Insightful)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451753)

Everything computer-related has been going backwards since the mid/late 2000s. That was the golden age of openness, apparently.

bullshit-o-meter is in the red (4, Insightful)

slashmydots (2189826) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451485)

"That was not our intention. We want people to use whatever's easier for them.'' -- BULLSHIT! They want to control and read as many people's e-mails as possible so they can show them relevant ads and make money. More people, more money, the end. What exactly do they think such an unbelievable lie will accomplish? Ironic, considering Mark Z is all about openness.

Re:bullshit-o-meter is in the red (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451705)

Mark Z is all about openness.

LOLOLOLOL

Openness of your data to himself perhaps.

E-mail (1)

fa2k (881632) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451491)

I'm surprised Facebook still requires an email to sign up. Seems like they really want to replace all open and closed internet communications protocols (except VoiP and games). I give it about two years before most consumers no longer have e-mail addresses. I don't really like it, but SMTP seems like a perfect target for the likes of Facebook and Google to replace, because it's so open, valuable and a bit clumsy/anachronistic.

Re:E-mail (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451725)

Except VoIP and games? You can bet they'll roll out their own VoIP service at some point (once they're big enough to take on the telcos and have the voice recognition capability) and they're already a medium for games.

Big whoop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451511)

You really deserve what you get if you use Facebook.

"We want people to use what's best for them" (2)

trnk (1887028) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451527)

I suspect this is less about trying to get everyone using Facebook for their email and more about usurping any third party apps that will automatically sync with Facebook contacts (iOS 6 anyone?). All you're going to get now is a load of garbage contacts.

Facebook is shocked at the response, REALLY? (5, Insightful)

realsilly (186931) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451537)

The entire purpose around user settings is to allow users to display what they want and to see what they want. So that means DON'T FUCK WITH MY SETTINGS. That means with every update don't check boxes that I didn't have checked before, don't force me to accept a change that gives me no way to say "No Thank You"

And the fact that Facebook was not prepared for the reaction it received is a bold-faced lie. If they didn't expect this reaction, it would not have be implemented so quietly. Facebook knew there would be controversy, again, thus the hush-hush.

On the other hand, Facebook is free to use, so it is in Facebook's interest to change the email address extension. If you were paying for your Facebook account do you really think there would be as many people on the site? Nope. So sadly, you're getting what your pay for, no fees, no freedom no privacy.

If you don't like the TOS, leave Facebook.

Re:Facebook is shocked at the response, REALLY? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451733)

And the fact that Facebook was not prepared for the reaction it received is a bold-faced lie.

At least it wasn't Comic Sans. That would be a real slap in the face!

My Facebook friends suck anyway (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40451621)

Facebook has put me face-to-face with the fact that my online "friends" all suck. Almost all of my network turns out to be people I knew in high school and haven't talked to in 20 years, half of them are religious or political nuts, and none of them are really my "friends". My real friends don't use Facebook.

Facebook is a fad. It's going to be a very long-lived fad, which is fine. But it's hard to see them as anything other than a clearinghouse for data that isn't worth distributing any other way. I do not care about what happened to you today in MobWars.

Where's the "Primary" ? (1)

MichaelJ (140077) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451685)

So if this sets the primary email to a Facebook address, and notifications are sent to the primary email address, and incoming email becomes Facebook messages, whose arrival triggers notifications, I'm sensing a bit of an obvious problem here. But looking over a friend's shoulder at their account, the Facebook address is not set to primary and in fact there appears to be no option to even make it primary.

Bullshit (3, Insightful)

Bob9113 (14996) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451709)

'I'm seeing this whole meme around the idea that it's us pushing for people only to use facebook.com addresses,' Chin said, 'That was not our intention.'

Ahem;

Bullshit.

That is all.

I've missed *another* clever meme??!! (1)

catmistake (814204) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451723)

said Meredith Chin, Facebook's manager of product communications. 'I'm seeing this whole meme [wikipedia.org] around the idea that it's us pushing...

Can someone please explain to me wtF she's babbling about? Did I, yet again, miss another round of an occasionally hilarious meme [imgur.com] , further isolating me from the collective consciousness of my people?

Got IPO? (2)

garyoa1 (2067072) | more than 2 years ago | (#40451765)

Cool. Another domain to add to my "do not even open it just auto delete it" spam box.

Interesting. Company beginning to fall apart, offer IPO, take money, screw with customers to speed up it's demise, run.

What a train wreck.

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