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Ask Bas Lansdorp About Going to Mars, One Way

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the bring-plenty-of-coffee dept.

Mars 540

NASA's been solicited ideas for exploring Mars, but Dutch entrepreneur Bas Lansdorp is already planning a different kind of trip than is likely to come from the U.S. government. Lansdorp's Mars One project has the goal of putting humans on Mars in 2022, with a twist that might dampen many people's hopes to be a Mars-exploring astronaut: the trip Lansdorp plans is one-way only. That means dramatically less fuel on board, because unlike typical Mars voyage plans, there would be no need (or ability) to carry the mechanism or the energy storage to return to Earth. If you (and three close companions) are willing to go be the first people to die on Mars, you'll also need to give up more than a pinch of privacy, because the Mars One plan to obtain the necessary funding is straightforward: create a media spectacle, and monetize it through advertising. (Note: If Elon Musk's optimistic sounding predictions are right, maybe one-way Marstronauts can get a return ticket, after all.) Many questions about the proposed journey are answered in the project's FAQ; check there before formulating questions. Ask Lansdorp about the practicalities and impracticalities of reaching Mars with as many questions as you'd like, but (lest ye be modded down) please only one question per post.

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Participant Psychosis? (5, Interesting)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453527)

This question may boil down to cultural differences but I'm an American, fairly non-nomadic and I have a lot of cargo -- both mentally and physically. There are places of my youth that I may never return to and I currently sit a thousand miles away from. But I'm okay with this because if I flipped out one day I could just board a plane or road trip it back. I'm aware that settlers who came to the Americas faced similar issues but they were moving to a new land that was already inhabited by humans and had new places to offer them. Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as hell. I would surmise that someone would need to be legally insane to willingly go to a place without society, without parks, without schools, without culture, without even atmosphere, without children, without the elderly and without the prospect of seeing those things first hand again. Furthermore, should a sane person make such a decision I can see no perceivable way they would remain sane. Even if the person is nomadic or adventurous in nature, you will bring them to a new world and require four of them to remain cooped up in a thousand cubic meters.

Call it cabin fever, call it space madness, call it batshit insanity, call it whatever you want but aside from bombarding them with digital crap from Earth, how are you going to combat it? I know your ratings go up but what happens when all your reality television is 90% insane ramblings of home?

If the Mars mission is brought to you as reality TV, you will see how the astronauts land on Mars, start construction on their habitat, cooperate, discuss, laugh and live.

Exactly what kind of laughter did you have in mind?

Re:Participant Psychosis? (4, Insightful)

0racle (667029) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453587)

how are you going to combat it?

You give them a way to quickly kill themselves. The whole plan is somewhat brutal, I don't see why the final step wouldn't be included.

Re:Participant Psychosis? (3, Insightful)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453643)

You give them a way to quickly kill themselves.

No need for that -- if they're on Mars, simply stepping outside will suffice.

Re:Participant Psychosis? (2)

0racle (667029) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453853)

Ya, I should have said quickly AND painlessly. Without the painless part, the whole thing is incredibly cruel.

Re:Participant Psychosis? (2)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454255)

In vacuum, or in the almost-like-vacuum kind of atmosphere that Mars has, losing pressure means losing consciousness within ten seconds or so. Not much time for pain, I'd say. If you exercise before exposing yourself, it should be even faster.

Re:Participant Psychosis? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453617)

Not everyone is the same. Some of us don't have hometowns. We moved around all of our lives and have covered most of the world. There is very little left for us to see here.

I'd make the trip to Mars, if I could be guaranteed food (or the means to grow food) and water.

Re:Participant Psychosis? (2)

SQLGuru (980662) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453687)

I would think that these types of plans would need to be preceeded by some teraforming efforts a few years (20? 50?) ahead of them. Not that a planned two-way trip ensures a return trip, but at least there's a plan. Send some extremophile algea "bombs" to blanket the landing area. Send probes to see how they progress. Start trying to set up a successful mission instead of one destined to fail.

Re:Participant Psychosis? (4, Insightful)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453701)

Yeah, well, maybe you shouldn't apply for this. I'm sure there's some suitable people among the 7,000,000,000 others who live here.

Re:Participant Psychosis? (1)

Lanfranc (2670941) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453935)

Probably. The question is A) how to find them, and B) how to ensure they'll still be suitable when sent to another planet and faced with the prospect of living out the rest of their lives in a metal can with only a tiny group of people and being monitored by video cameras most of the hours in the day. Pretty tall order.

Re:Participant Psychosis? (1)

gatfirls (1315141) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453797)

The first thought that popped into my head was hours and hours of people begging into cameras to be saved from boredom, injury, etc. It's kind of a neat idea but the "no return ticket" thing is grim. They're basically being sent to a tiny prison (I can't imagine the living quarters would be much more than a jail cell) with no possibility of parole.

Re:Participant Psychosis? (1)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453929)

Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as hell

Wait I thought your name was Elvado, not Elton!

Re:Participant Psychosis? (1)

OakDragon (885217) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453983)

Exactly what kind of laughter did you have in mind?

Heeeeere's Johnny! [tumblr.com]

Re:Participant Psychosis? (0)

Sardak (773761) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454049)

I would surmise that someone would need to be legally insane to willingly go to a place without society, without parks, without schools, without culture, without even atmosphere, without children, without the elderly and without the prospect of seeing those things first hand again.

What a coincidence. Aside from the atmosphere, those are all the things I dislike about living on earth.

Re:Participant Psychosis? (1)

HapSlappy_2222 (1089149) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454269)

Eh, I can see doing it to be the documented first, the one who pioneers the way, the guinea pig, one who advances the science. Though I'd have to a) convince myself and my family why this is important and worthwhile enough to justify the sacrifices involved (assuming it actually was worth it to me; it isn't), and b) my family would need to be set for life - college educations, annuities, etc for losing me. By accomplishing both of those things, you could actually improve the future for your family, their kids, grandkids, etc. Sorta like a dude that "accidentally" drives off a cliff to give the life insurance claim to his wife; but actually accomplishing something lasting, too.

While Mars would be orders of magnitude worse, justifying the trip isn't as much different from sailing to the "New World" as you'd think. Most of those dudes never went home, either, and the landing sites were NOT inherently hospitable, though they did, of course, have breathable air, flowing water, and allowed you to walk about outside of your transport vehicle. In one or two ways, the New World was actually worse; at least on Mars, there's (probably) not indigenous folk who are PISSED you're there, and regular communication with the homeland is possible.

All that said; yeah, a one-way space trip is a very tough pill to swallow.

stretch goal: return trip! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453539)

put it on kickstarter

Re:stretch goal: return trip! (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453629)

back-kickstarter

Just Send Geeks From Prison!! (1)

zenlessyank (748553) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453549)

I am sure there are at least 400 slightly wacked 'Sheldons' that are lifers, who would love to go to Mars to die on national TV!!! Did that need to be in the form of a question??!!

Re:Just Send Geeks From Prison!! (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453625)

I am sure there are at least 400 slightly wacked 'Sheldons' that are lifers, who would love to go to Mars to die on national TV!!!
Did that need to be in the form of a question??!!

I thought it was lawyers we had too many of?

Re:Just Send Geeks From Prison!! (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453801)

Lawyers? No. Like K said in MiB: "Keep them on *this* planet".

Re:Just Send Geeks From Prison!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453907)

Lawyers? No. Like K said in MiB: "Keep them on *this* planet".

Put them on the B Ark [geoffwilkins.net] !

National vs. Commercial Interests (1, Insightful)

Pollux (102520) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453565)

Mars One plan to obtain the necessary funding is straightforward: create a media spectacle, and monetize it through advertising.

Why is it in humanity's best interest to let this initiative be led and run by business interests rather than by a government space program?

Re:National vs. Commercial Interests (4, Insightful)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453635)

What do you mean "let"? Why on Earth can't some people go to Mars if other people pay them to go?

Re:National vs. Commercial Interests (1, Insightful)

arth1 (260657) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454221)

What do you mean "let"? Why on Earth can't some people go to Mars if other people pay them to go?

Because by international treaties, the planets belongs to humanity, and are not subject to exploitation.

Also, any hope of finding traces of life on Mars might be shot if we ship life there.

This is a plan that needs to be shot down. With Reagan's ray guns if needed.

Re:National vs. Commercial Interests (2)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453753)

Every time you go to sleep there's a chance you might not wake up. Every time you get in a car you can't say for sure if you'll get out alive.

If somebody really wants to do this, why do they need anybody's permission? They aren't dying anonymously like most people will, they're guaranteeing immortality for themselves.

Re:National vs. Commercial Interests (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453945)

You seem to get it, but why does nobody seem to understand that they'll die if they stay here, too? Everybody dies. Maybe some people are interested in actually living first, instead of just staying home and waiting for the end.

Re:National vs. Commercial Interests (1)

tmosley (996283) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453805)

You make it sound as though this is an either/or proposition.

Re:National vs. Commercial Interests (3, Insightful)

Millennium (2451) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453815)

Because for the foreseeable future, no government space program is going to do anything remotely like this. If we're going to go to Mars, business interests are pretty much all we've got.

Re:National vs. Commercial Interests (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453833)

Why is it in humanity's best interest to let this initiative be led and run by business interests rather than by a government space program?

Strawman argument. There is nothing that prevents a government space program from doing its thing. In fact, China's space program is doing quite well. Indias too. You just have to get used to the fact that the US of A is now a "me-too" nation, with the better part of a century gone since it's glory days.

That's Different (1)

dav1dc (2662425) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453575)

So the Mars One project is basically asking for volunteers to board Apollo 13 then?? Yikes! :S
You'll be famous... but you will likely never return or see your loved ones again.

Why am I suddenly reminded of the Free Willzyx episode of South Park??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Willzyx [wikipedia.org]

^_^

Power Draw? (4, Interesting)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453603)

Exactly how do you plan on broadcasting reality TV of your mission? Mars seems like a difficult place to get energy. When people's lives are at risk in a mercilessly harsh environment, isn't it a bit selfish for us to be asking them to use their solar panels to send us video of their daily lives? I understand the need for communications but how do you plan on sending enough video and audio back from the teams to make a reality show?

Is the following statement morally reprehensible to you? "I know you've had a long day but we need someone to do a walk out to dust off the south solar panels because we're not getting enough power to transmit cameras five and six to monitor you while you sleep."

Re:Power Draw? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453799)

fission, bro

Re:Power Draw? (2)

Bigby (659157) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453823)

1. Holy crap! We are on Mars! (on camera battery)
2. Set up the solar array
3. Get full-time camera online use a fraction of the power
4a. Set up rechargeable transportation vehicle (on camera)
4b. Set up airtight greenhouse (on camera)
5. Find more sources of energy through exploration (on camera)
6. Find Martian civilization (on camera)
7. Have Ewalk Return of the Jedi style party with Martians (on camera)
8. "Borrow" ship for return journey to Earth (on camera)

Re:Power Draw? (2)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453859)

You can get all the power you want with an RTG [wikipedia.org] or two.

Just one question. (3, Insightful)

dutchd00d (823703) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453605)

Just one question: Wait, what?!

Re:Just one question. (2)

Hentes (2461350) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453677)

A clever mediahack for some kind of scam, most likely.

Re:Just one question. (1)

gatfirls (1315141) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453947)

The more I think about it I am convinced the idea came to him after watching 'The Hunger Games', really that's what this would be should it ever (it won't) come to happen. Luckily it's not just a question of funding it's a logistical and technical nightmare that requires nothing less than armies of people to solve.

Re:Just one question. (2)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454229)

This - and after reading their [laughable] 'FAQ', I'd expand that to "what are you smoking?'.
 
I mean, seriously - they claim to have identified "potential suppliers" for equipment... when most of the technologies involved are barely at the "laboratory bench prototype" stage... (And keeping in mind that "things get heavier and more expensive is practically a law of nature in aerospace.) Not to mention the laughable notion that reality TV will fund even a fraction of the quoted six billion dollar cost*, let alone that someone will be insane enough to provide significant bridge funding.

* I don't have the numbers, but I would not be surprised if that adds up to the show having to be the most popular show ever - year after year for decades. Six billion is a *lot* of money, and the interest/expected ROI on the bridge funding is going to add at least billion or so more.

Solar Sail or Rocket? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453607)

Which is the most efficacious way to get there?

Because we all know Ralph Kramden could only send you so far as the Moon

Understatement of the year (5, Insightful)

Deep Esophagus (686515) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453621)

"Living on Mars cannot be considered entirely risk-free, in particular during the first few years."

Ya think?

Privacy (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453631)

"you'll also need to give up more than a pinch of privacy"... so what stops those who go from just disconnecting the camera?
Or is it going to be a glass dome with the camera outside and no spacesuit to reach it?

Re:Privacy (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453923)

Exactly. If it's a one way trip, then once they break orbit they have all they need. There would be no reason for them to need to raise money, so they would no longer need to make a spectacle of themselves.

Re:Privacy (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453985)

"you'll also need to give up more than a pinch of privacy"... so what stops those who go from just disconnecting the camera?
Or is it going to be a glass dome with the camera outside and no spacesuit to reach it?

They would just stop sending food from Earth to Mars if the camera gets turned off.

Re:Privacy (1)

TheCycoONE (913189) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454063)

They said they'd have space suits. I guess the biggest risk with disconnecting the camera is that they're not going to be sending more people and supplies in 2 years because the show went off the air, lost it's audience, and everyone involved is bankrupt.

Isn't this using human beings like lab animals? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453637)

I don't think there's much doubt that you can transport three humans to Mars, if you don't have to worry about their safety or their return. The "one way" aspect of the mission is one thing, but the idea that even reasonable expectations of the astronaut's survival can be jettisoned in the interests of commerce and "mankind breaking barriers" seems irresponsible. Yes, there will always be people who will sign up for it, just like Reality TV can always get people willing to do amazingly gross, indecent or dangerous things on camera. But shouldn't there be a lengthy discussion about the ethics involved, moderated by someone other than space entrepreneurs?

Re:Isn't this using human beings like lab animals? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453961)

But shouldn't there be a lengthy discussion about the ethics involved, moderated by someone other than space entrepreneurs?

Umm... no?

It's not up to anyone but the people involved. If someone completely understands the risks and volunteers for a one way trip, YOU don't get a say, any more than you get a say in what I'm having for breakfast today. Period. It simply isn't your place to decide for them what is acceptable to to them.

People do crazy shit like climb K2, and I'd never do that, but you don't see me trying to stop them even when there's a large risk they die in the process. It's THEIR life. Since you seem to be new to the concept of a free society, let me be the first to welcome you.

Re:Isn't this using human beings like lab animals? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40454171)

And yet, we stop people from jumping off buildings instead of clearing the sidewalks for them. Funny how that work, eh?

In-Sitiu Fuel Production? (4, Interesting)

Cap'nSmithers (2474202) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453647)

Are you exploring any possibilities for creating fuel for a return trip while on Mars? There is at least one [usra.edu] study for the possibility, most likely more. If you're planning on the trip being a one-way mission, why not at least experiment with the idea for future Mars missions? And if it works, you get a ride home, and you've made some pretty hefty contributions to space travel.

Re:In-Sitiu Fuel Production? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453857)

That's covered in Zubrin's book, "A Case for Mars" that describes his Mars Direct approach. I met him in Cookeville, TN about a decade ago - great speaker. Too bad nobody has yet given him the $20B necessary for a series of small bases.

All (3, Insightful)

JustOK (667959) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453649)

We all gotta die somewhere.

Why not shoot yourself into the sun? (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453657)

If you're looking into one way trips, you'd be the first person to land on the sun. Though I don't think it would serve much purpose to bring a flag along.

Re:Why not shoot yourself into the sun? (1)

i kan reed (749298) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453711)

Mars is easier to get to than the sun. The energy difference between the Earth's velocity and Mars' are much less than between the Earth and the Sun.

Re:Why not shoot yourself into the sun? (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453829)

There's no need to try and match velocity with the sun, though I have no idea how much energy is required to achieve a trajectory that intersects the sun (at a high velocity difference). On Mars, the point is to actually land rather than smash into it.

Re:Why not shoot yourself into the sun? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453915)

That's the beauty of it though, the sun doesn't have a solid rock layer to worry about hitting. You can plow right into that ball of plasma full speed and its own density and gravity will do all the work. All it takes is enough energy spent couter-earth-orbit to result in a nice, 5 year death-spiral toward the inferno.

Re:Why not shoot yourself into the sun? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453871)

You could go at night!

Life Insurance (1)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453659)

Since I am pretty sure that most insurance companies would attempt to deny any claim for someone who died on Mars, will you offer them a life insurance plan?

Re:Life Insurance (4, Insightful)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453785)

Huh? What? Insurance is about mitigating risk. Risk is the uncertainty of outcome. There is no risk at all in this instance... a 100% chance of death. In this case, you are offering payment for someone to essentially commit suicide. Insurance has no role here.

Re:Life Insurance (1)

Garble Snarky (715674) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453975)

Well, by that reasoning, "life insurance" can't exist for anyone, since death is always guaranteed.

Re:Life Insurance (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454253)

Speak for yourself, sir. I plan to live forever!

Re:Life Insurance (2)

SteelKidney (1964470) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454039)

There's always a 100% chance of death. Living on Earth doesn't change that.

Life insurance is about the risk of dying before the actuarial tables say you're expected to. Which is why it's difficult and expensive to get term life insurance when you're >65.

That being said, I think the insurance premiums for a Mars colonist would be roughly that of a 200 year old that routinely snorts cocaine off a diseased gibbon's rear end.

Give or take.

God damn it, Steve (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453661)

You fucker! Get back to work!

will i still have to pay child support? (5, Funny)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453667)

will i still be liable for child support if I move to Mars?

Re:will i still have to pay child support? (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453887)

Not if you die.

Re:will i still have to pay child support? (2)

HapSlappy_2222 (1089149) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454043)

Not if you die.

At which point all you'll have left is alimony. Sweet, sweet justice!

Re:will i still have to pay child support? (2)

SteelKidney (1964470) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454073)

I'd just like to point out that this program could make your sig unnecessary.

Re:will i still have to pay child support? (5, Funny)

SolitaryMan (538416) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454047)

There will be exactly zero law enforcement there. You can kill your fellow crew members in a most spectacular way and then eat their brains. All on national TV and nobody will be able to do anything about that.

I have a list of people I'd love to send to Mars! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453685)

I have a list of people I'd love to send to Mars, one-way!

Given the speed that "the Internet" raised $650,000 for Karen Klein (the bullied bus monitor), don't you think we can raise, say, $500,000,000 to send (for example) Rosie O'Donnell or Rush Limbaugh to Mars?

Re:I have a list of people I'd love to send to Mar (2)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453819)

The extra fuel for the two of them would be prohibitive.

Re:I have a list of people I'd love to send to Mar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453839)

Rosie O'Donnell and Donald Trump - together! Now that's reality TV.

Aliens (1)

Bigby (659157) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453697)

Are you going to secretly send a ship up ahead of time to plant actors imitating stereotypical Martian Aliens to bring some "action" to the Mars One plan?

what are the entertainment options like? (4, Interesting)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453703)

if i move to mars for the rest of my life what are the entertainment options? what am i supposed to do in my off time?

Re:what are the entertainment options like? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453817)

You'll be coding applications for the mobile web. It's an unpaid internship, which will make you and your crewmates the low cost bidder.

Make sure you bring a decent laptop with you.

Gender of Volunteers? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453707)

Is one gender preferential over the other? Should all participants be of the same gender or should they be mixed?

Re:Gender of Volunteers? (1)

TheCycoONE (913189) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454175)

This was in the FAQ, they want mixed gender. Supposedly because mixed gender groups tend to fair better - I think also for ratings.

Pioneers (5, Interesting)

tmosley (996283) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453719)

It seems to me that a mission of this type which is meant to be permanent must by necessity focus on the production of those things which are necessary for survival on Mars. This means that your colonists, and they should be called colonists, will need to focus on the production of air, water, food, living space, and manufactured goods, in that order. Media spectacle or no, that is the order that things must take, prior to wasting time with research (wasting time in the hunter-gatherer sense).

I think that the only way you are going to be able to get your colonists to do what you want them to do will be to have them earn money with their scientific research/media nonsense such that it funds resupply missions.

That said, what is your business plan with regards to production of goods on Mars, and resupply missions?

Re:Pioneers (2)

tmosley (996283) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453759)

Keeping it to one question per post: how will you avoid the pitfalls of early American settlements, where those the desires of those funding the colonization conflicted with the basic psychological needs of the colonists, ie how to avoid depression which could quickly lead to death in such a hostile environment?

Re:Pioneers (1)

tmosley (996283) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453781)

Further question: how will you deal with the inevitability of childbirth on Mars? Note that if you don't send women, the men will be much more likely to fall into depression and refuse to work, even if it means their death.

Re:Pioneers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453885)

I'd imagine the women could have their tubes tied and/or the men could get vasectomies.

Sputnik (1)

MickLinux (579158) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453731)

If you're talking about a one way trip, wouldn't a single dog or monkey be even lighter?

A huge PR high-tech group suicide seems extremely Jonestownsian to me.

And it wouldn't get the support of any right-thinking people. Suicide is not a rational solution. Ever.

Environmental Questions (5, Interesting)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453743)

I've always been of the opinion that once a private Mars mission gets close to becoming reality, scientists and the government will go in league to shut it down because of environmental contamination. The question of whether there is life on Mars is still open, and once you have a group setting up a settlement, the planet is potentially contaminated forever with Earth bacteria, which might even kill off native bacteria, if any.

My question is, are you concerned with the contamination question and do you think you might be prevented from going if scientists get the right politicians to listen? You sort-of have a FAQ question about this ("Will the mission be harmful to Mars' environment?"), but you don't really answer it.

Internet access (1)

stud9920 (236753) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453749)

Why would you live with a ping time measured in minutes until you die, however short after arriving ?

Also, they don't have peanut butter and meat croquettes on Mars, so how do you plan to survive ?

Are you taking Snooki? (4, Funny)

tekrat (242117) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453761)

First of all, I'll contribute to any project that gets reality TV stars off the planet, and then kills them.

My question is: Which reality stars are you shooting into space? Snooki? Kim Kardashian?

Or is it going to be a series like "Survivor", where 7 start out, and eventually at least 4 are voted out the airlock during the trip there? We all know reality TV is fake though, so is this really 'Capricorn One'?

Re:Are you taking Snooki? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453995)

I like the idea! Can we have a cliché plot, like the computer going mad and killing them one by one?

legendary (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453763)

whoever steps foot on a planet other than earth or moon like it or not will be legendary for quite some time to come. that is not going to be an opportunity that is going to come around frequently for anyone.

Can I Apply? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453773)

I'm really interested in doing this. What sort of people are you looking for? I may be starting Medicine at university next year. Does this put me at an advantage?

Re:Can I Apply? (1)

TheCycoONE (913189) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454219)

Again with the FAQ, they are looking for anyone of any nationality over 25 in good physical health, particularly people with niche and useful skill sets like doctors and engineers. All that said they are going to have the public vote on who actually goes, which means you also have to be good looking and have a quirky personality.

Enjoy the journey.

I'll bet you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453787)

$10000 that you don't see this project through to the end.
I'll even give you an extra 10 years.

Suicide options? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453803)

Will the astronauts be supplied with the means to end their lives if they find themselves facing hopeless circumstances (e.g., slow life-support failure, debilitating depression)?

Re:Suicide options? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40454083)

Will the astronauts be supplied with the means to end their lives if they find themselves facing hopeless circumstances (e.g., slow life-support failure, debilitating depression)?

Yes: open the airlock.

April Fools.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453889)

By April 1, 2023 some space agency will actually have put a man on mars and this won't be so funny.

Can I Apply? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453909)

I'm really interested in doing this. I may be doing Medicine at university next year. Will this put me at an advantage?

Not Impressed (2)

mfh (56) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453963)

I was not at all impressed with this guy [reddit.com] . He has no real plan other than sending people to die while getting the footage of it because he's a greed-monster. This mission might even set back human space exploration by causing generations of people to fear space.

Put your lives where your mouths are (5, Insightful)

Lanfranc (2670941) | more than 2 years ago | (#40453967)

I just have one very simple question: I understand that Mars One intend to send four people at a time to Mars. I also note that the Mars One team currently consists of four people. So are you and your three business partners willing to be the first group to go, and if not, why not?

Depends (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40453991)

Depending on the supplies & equipment they'd be willing to send with me I'd go. If it's just a couple years worth of food and a 8' (interior space) diameter capsule then the answer would be no. If it was a 8' capsule, a small inflatable greenhouse, seeds, building equipment, space suit (and repair equipment), construction gear & free communications (internet & telephone) to earth for life then I'd do it in a heartbeat. Just going there to sit around waiting to die would not be worth it, going to try to build the first (small) self sustaining colony would be.

ask mr heinlein (1)

ImSoConfused (1489285) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454027)

not true. your offspring might make it back. groke it ?

space psychosis not a problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40454055)

A lot of people are worried about these astronaughts going insane from the thought of never again seeing fresh air, interesting people, their family, their hometown, etc. But really, if they are going to save money by not packing fuel for a return trip, why not save more by not including landing gear, or more than enough food to get them to Mars and a few weeks of orbit? I can see this being interesting television during the launch, and during the first few orbits around Mars, and maybe the 6 months journey there, but other than that, not so much.

Actually, the last few days, where they are starving to death and cannabilizing each other, that I might watch.

Shipwrecking rather than Emigration (1)

fantomas (94850) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454153)

"Emigration" supposes the potential for returning: previous emigrants have always known that they have the possibility to walk back to their place of departure, or pay for passage on a ship going back home. They have the capacity to achieve a return if they really want to do this. Mars One strikes me as more similar to a shipwreck, where participants know they do not have the ability to return home even if they want to. How will you manage their psychological well being?

Also, what resources do you have in reserve to keep providing your participants with resources from Earth if their own resources fail and they are completely dependent on Earth supplies? How long can you supply them for? Can you provide support for up to 50 years / their natural lifetimes?

The Sickness of Western Society (-1, Troll)

hackus (159037) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454183)

Let me get this straight.

We are going to kill two individuals on a media blitz to Mars, to save what? an extra say 300 billion? Maybe 400 billion?

In contrast, hundreds of thousands are dying in Greece because the banksters hijacked their currency to get them into a criminal gang also known as the EU.

We gave what, 17 trillion at last count, to the banks so that all of the criminal behind the back door deals they did with their cronies, we the tax payer can cover it.

17 Trillion. Really. Yet we have to kill 2 people over 300 billion and no science or information can come back with these individuals to teach or do research on a return trip.

This Bas Landrip or whatever you call the guys name is the poster child for our times in science and technology:

NO vision, NO hope for the future is the new human vision.

Sick, and twisted and destructive.

May he reap what he sows, along with all of you who buy into this crap.

-Hack

The Moon (1)

Githaron (2462596) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454271)

Why don't we focus on colonizing a easier target before we start colonizing Mars. Baby steps.

Radiation (1, Insightful)

zrbyte (1666979) | more than 2 years ago | (#40454281)

On the surface of Mars, which lacks a magnetic field (such as that of Earth) and a thick atmosphere, the inhabitants would have to endure much higher levels of ionizing radiation [wikipedia.org] in comparison to the background radiation on Earth. How are you going to shield the people on the surface? Or will this kind of danger be just another part of the risks that the "astronauts" take, like burning up on entry in the atmosphere? How much fun will it be to watch cancer patients die on Mars?

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