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"Mini-Factories" To Make Medicine Inside the Body

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the power-up dept.

Medicine 79

Diggester writes "A group of scientists from MIT and the University of British Columbia have created 'mini-factories' that can be programmed to produce different types of proteins, and when implanted into living cells, it should distribute those proteins throughout the body. The scientists have initially triggered these 'factories' into action through the use of a laser light to relay the message of which proteins to produce."

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Pharmaceutical Lobbyists (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40511487)

Just wait until the pharmaceutical lobbyists get our clueless lawmakers to make protein synthesis illegal.. Then, the next step will be to make the lymphatic system illegal too. Illegal copying of cells is a violation of copyright law.

Re:Pharmaceutical Lobbyists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40511673)

How about genetic patches to avoid birth defects or get some desired characteristic, but where the changed individual has to pay an annual license fees as would any later any later offspring?

Have you seen those joggers? That pounding triggers drug production, and they're addicted! Shouldn't they have to pay pharma and the alcoholic beverage industry for lost earnings, and the government for lost taxes on those?

Re:Pharmaceutical Lobbyists (3, Insightful)

MagusSlurpy (592575) | more than 2 years ago | (#40512391)

You realize who's going to make a killing manufacturing these nanofactories, right? The pharmaceutical industry. Even more amusingly, look at who funds the facility [mit.edu] where most of the research took place. Yes, those Koch Brothers.

Go pander your conspiracies somewhere else.

Re:Pharmaceutical Lobbyists (1)

Fned (43219) | more than 2 years ago | (#40521591)

"a laser light to relay the message of which proteins to produce"

Yes, those Koch Brothers.

My guess is the Koch Brothers' new "painful-death-by-simultaneous-rapid-growth-tumors-everywhere-in-your-body-at-once-don't-you-wish-you'd-read-the-fine-print-employee-attitude-adjustment laser" is going to make one of Baron Harkonnen's heartplugs look like a fucking employment benefit.

Re:Pharmaceutical Lobbyists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512675)

Why would they want it illegal, when they could patent the proteins and charge us license fees for proteins our bodies make?

Re:Pharmaceutical Lobbyists (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 2 years ago | (#40515733)

The scientists have initially triggered these 'factories' into action through the use of a laser light to relay the message of which proteins to produce.

Treatment will be $500. Now go put your hand under the blinking light. Okay, all done!

Re:Pharmaceutical Lobbyists (1)

BlackSnake112 (912158) | more than 2 years ago | (#40517601)

Just wait until the pharmaceutical lobbyists get our clueless lawmakers to make protein synthesis illegal.. Then, the next step will be to make the lymphatic system illegal too. Illegal copying of cells is a violation of copyright law.

You mean people will have to get permission to have kids? Please let that happen. Watching/reading the news about how hard it is to enforce will be funny. A pregnant woman crosses/lands into the country, police STOP! Do you have permission to duplicate those cells? Here is your $1000 fine. The lady swings what ever she is carrying and smacks the police officer in their head. It will be like a 3 stooges comedy routine, only funnier.

Re:Pharmaceutical Lobbyists (1)

uninformedLuddite (1334899) | more than 2 years ago | (#40524399)

Doesn't Mom have prior art as she wanted to use third world kid's bodies as manufacturing plants years ago.

Cool. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40511499)

Now when can i get one implanted that makes THC?

captcha:conveyor

Re:Cool. (1)

Teresita (982888) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511539)

Only in states with medical marijuana laws, like this one.

Re:Cool. (0)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511641)

Why do you need THC when your body, specifically the pineal gland, _already_ naturally makes DMT? (DMT is the psychedelic used in LSD.)

Also, "DMT occurs naturally in many species of plants"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine [wikipedia.org]

--
The fact that a natural _plant_ is _illegal_ is the height of stupidity.

Re:Cool. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40511717)

Because DMT is a serious hardcore mindfuck. Short term or not..

And i just want a nice long mellow relaxing high and sleep well. THC is for me.

Re:Cool. (1)

Mindcontrolled (1388007) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511775)

Your body does build Anandamide [wikipedia.org] , however, which triggers the same receptor as THC - so, instead of a THC microfab in your body, just find something to trigger anandamide release. Or, more easily, smoke a spliff... ;)

I smoke like crazy and wouldn't want that! (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512503)

Not going to happen and you wouldn't want arbitrary amounts of THC in your system all the time either.
I know.. I'm on week 8 of my toke break and starting to be able to do some work again. Couldn't sit down
and type for a long while, was about to lose my job. I started getting better by week 6. Even THC is not
something you want to abuse too much, it is fat solvable and stored in body fat and I still feel like I'm
high sometimes.

Don't get me wrong, THC is still an infinitely superior alternative to anything big pharma wants to put into
you, it is a fantastic anti-depressant, controls blood pressure, moderates your immune-system (if it's too
depressed it ramps it up, if it is switched on "too high" it dampens it just like Vitamin D3 does incidentally)
and gives you anti-government thoughts and other insights into life and the universe. On the downside it
can build up in your system, destroy your concentration and it takes away your dreams during REM which
may be a huge issue all by itself. It also makes you superlazy. I know. I've smoked A LOT and at some point
the dosage you need to get high enough is also the dosage that gives you negative side effects. However that
is me smoking weed like some people smoke cigarettes so any anti-marijuana zealots lying out their asses,
don't quote me for I understand the upsides and downsides none to well both from having consumed it
and from having stopped it.

I'm week 8 of the toke break out of 12 and no there are no huge withdrawal effects (as it is still released in
my system slowly), I got no huge cravings for it and I'm quiet a bit more active and yes dreams have come
back. I'm also slightly less lazy probably coming down to my natural ingrained level of laziness at this point.
Oh I'll be back to smoking in a few weeks, on the weekends after dark because I do not want to miss out
either on the health benefits nor of course on getting high every so often but one thing I know for sure is
I would not want anything in my system that produces THC all the time ... like I said there's a downside to it too
if things get out of hand.

Re:I smoke like crazy and wouldn't want that! (1)

uninformedLuddite (1334899) | more than 2 years ago | (#40524415)

I would be posting anonymously too if I was going to claim withdrawal effects from smoking weed. The only sufferers of withdrawal from stopping smoking weed are weak minded, propaganda believing anonymous cowards (or those in the pay of the drug war).

Re:Cool. (1)

Eponymous Hero (2090636) | more than 2 years ago | (#40518411)

as an aside, the word "anand" or "ananda" means bliss in several hindi dialects.

Re:Cool. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40511983)

Because for some people the pineal gland under produces. A supplement is therefore in order.

Re:Cool. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512471)

DMT isn't "used in" LSD for any definition of "used in" I'm aware of.

Re:Cool. (2)

kermidge (2221646) | more than 2 years ago | (#40512805)

"DMT is the psychedelic used in LSD."

Uh, no: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsd [wikipedia.org]

I took plenty of acid '67-'77, ain't no DMT to it. Were occasional rumors some chemists added stuff to their blotter or whatnot, but I never saw any. Helps to know good chemists. ;)

Re:Cool. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40513679)

DMT isn't even orally active without MAO-inhibitors, and in addition the average blotter can hold only few milligrams at best, DMT takes a far greater dose.

Re:Cool. (1)

kermidge (2221646) | more than 2 years ago | (#40514917)

I don't think I ever knew that, good info to file away. Thanks.

Re:Cool. (1)

uninformedLuddite (1334899) | more than 2 years ago | (#40524425)

You would be horrified if you saw what the kids these days put into their bodies when they take a 'trip'. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm-memories of microdots

Re:Cool. (1)

kermidge (2221646) | more than 2 years ago | (#40514919)

Forgot to say, I dig your sig.

Re:Cool. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40515519)

"Why do you need THC when your body, specifically the pineal gland, _already_ naturally makes DMT?"

Have you ever gone shopping for groceries on DMT?

"(DMT is the psychedelic used in LSD.)"

LSD is the psychedelic used in LSD.....
DMT is a completely different substance.
Get your drugs facts straight.

Re:Cool. (1)

ohsmeguk (1048214) | more than 2 years ago | (#40516035)

Hey buddy, although DMT and LSD share the same indole ring structure, they are very different chemicals (and experiences). Just to be clear, DMT is not used in the manufacture of LSD

I wonder.. (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40511521)

I wonder if they could make these factories produce insulin, dependent on concentration of glucose? That would be cool for diabetics.

Re:I wonder.. (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40511535)

Yeah then they could eat even more and get even fatter until they no longer fit through the doors at Wal Mart

Re:I wonder.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40511583)

I was thinking Type 1 diabetics, they tend to be skinny, and develop the problem in childhood due to autoimmune attack on the pancreas. The fat ones who eat their way to diabetes you're thinking of tend to be insulin resistant and so wouldn't be helped as much.

Please don't lump T1DM and T2DM together, the disease process is entirely different, and it's not fair to the T1DM patients to assume they ate their way into the disease.

Re:I wonder.. (1)

axlr8or (889713) | more than 2 years ago | (#40514293)

No, please. Don't stop his logic. With that kind of natural ability he is sure to solve all the worlds problems. Let him insult.

Re:I wonder.. (1)

uninformedLuddite (1334899) | more than 2 years ago | (#40524433)

The simple solution is bigger doors at Wal Mart

Re:I wonder.. (1)

NEDHead (1651195) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511721)

Not a problem.

A company as sensitive as Walmart is to the needs of its customer base would quickly install larger doors. And initiate One-Way aisles to avoid congestion.

Re:I wonder.. (1)

uninformedLuddite (1334899) | more than 2 years ago | (#40524439)

I post a reply and the very next comment I read is essentially what I posted. The one way aisles is a good one although I suspect some of them become one way automatically when a particularly large heifer gets through.

Re:I wonder.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512067)

to a person on diabetes increased insulin causes cells to shed energy into the blood stream. more snacky foods + more insulin == heartattack or coma possibly leading to death. glucose tablets are only used if your insulin isn't ejecting energy from greedy cells.

implanting protien synthesis factories that require an external laser to operate is not more convenient than insulin pumps already on the market. and these devices are not cheaper than growing and processing soybeans into shakes for hunger supression. i am on medications that can increase blood sugar and as such i have to eat a low glycemic diet. without soy protein i would likely gain and gain more and more weight. i already get enough exercise but it is hard. not eating sweets or flour rules out a huge amount of food i otherwise would enjoy if i wasn't already overweight and concerned about not becoming a statistic becuase the damn store stocks so much high glycemic foods.

Re:I wonder.. (2)

FreedomOfThought (2544248) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511633)

Except I think it mightn't be necessary since there is another, more efficient, [slashdot.org] idea that seems to be promising.

Re:I wonder.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512091)

but where will the stemcells come from? will we harvet them from straving humans that nobody notices or what?

Re:I wonder.. (2)

slazzy (864185) | more than 2 years ago | (#40512159)

Insulin is a protein like many hormones so I'm sure this is something they are thinking about.

Still need an external device (1)

manu0601 (2221348) | more than 2 years ago | (#40514295)

But the nanoparticles still have to be pumped in the body, so this will not remove the need for device like insulin pump.

Re:I wonder.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512521)

I wonder if type-2 diabetics could just eliminate all those carbs from their diets
(sweets, soda, chips, pasta, bread, potato, rice, etc.etc.etc.) and not bother
with this shit? (Lol, well I know they can because that's how my diabetes
reversed. I never told the doctor what I did, I just went and am now on a strict
low-carb diet with lots of meat and eggs and all the good stuff). Now I don't
have to see that piece of crap at all.

Re:I wonder.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512965)

Now I don't have to see that piece of crap at all.

But you still have to pay for it.

Re:I wonder.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40513601)

That was the treatment for diabetes before insulin became the preferred treatment.

You aren't the only one to take that opinion or to have those results. It's considered bad medicine, but there are a few doctors that advocate that approach to the problem. http://www.menshealth.com/health/cure-diabetes

Re:I wonder.. (1)

wealthychef (584778) | more than 2 years ago | (#40514221)

Actually, the good news for diabetics is already here [medicaldaily.com]

WCPGW (1)

mattr (78516) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511541)

What could possibly go wrong. This is cool and wave of future but I'll sit back as long as I can to wait for bug testing.

Re:WCPGW (1)

Teresita (982888) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511643)

Fast forward to Los Angelese, November 2019. Tyrell Corporation asserts their 2010 patent for "single click" RNA transcription. A judge orders that the Genentech nanofactories keeping the subject alive have to be de-activated for patent infringement. The subject is dead before he leaves the table.

Re:WCPGW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512405)

Just wait till Anonymous hack them and force their enemies nanofactories to start producing a shittone of estrogen for the lulz

Re:WCPGW (1)

Shavano (2541114) | more than 2 years ago | (#40513851)

And how are they going to shine those lasers in my liver?

Nanohives (3, Insightful)

WillDraven (760005) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511549)

Did anybody else think of nanohives from Shadowrun when they read the title?

Re:Nanohives (3, Interesting)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511569)

Its definetely moving into a cyberpunk future. /slap on mirrorshades

Re:Nanohives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512179)

My first thought was "Now I'm going to need updates too". :(

Re:Nanohives (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 2 years ago | (#40515509)

Actually I thought of 'glanding' as per Iain M. Banks' Culture series.

Wow, it's like a simple cell (2)

NotSoHeavyD3 (1400425) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511589)

I mean how a cell (like bacteria) have a bit of DNA, mechanism to transcribe that to RNA and use rhibosomes to translate that into a protein. This thing does similar stuff except it isn't designed to replicate itself. Hmm, I don't have access to the original though, what does it use for energy to do all of this? (Since a cell might use a mitochondria to do cellular respiration. Ok, a bacteria doesn't have those but it can do something similar.)

Re:Wow, it's like a simple cell (3, Informative)

glk572 (599902) | more than 2 years ago | (#40514737)

skimmed the O, what they've done is combine two methods; essentially they've created an artificial cell wall and populated it's innards with the cellular machinery from e. coli bacteria. then they've introduced a piece of dna for the protein they're looking for. the factory claim comes from claims that the hybrid cells can still produce proteins under turbulence of the blood stream.
as far as i can tell they don't know where the energy is coming from, the action dies out after around 24 hours. these letters are usually incremental publications, it's very short and excludes most of the details, this may be just experimental error, there's no reason to suspect that this is potentially superior to conventional mab techniques, or is in any way safe to use in vivo. they look like they're looking for a mechanism right now, but this is mostly academic work, basic research, and most of all ignores the complexity of the mammalian immune system.
this is being published now for the sake of shopping it around for more grant money. if you want the O and can figure out how to get me your email, i can send a limited number of copies.

and when these get infected (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40511593)

you die and die fast

The next step! (1)

Commontwist (2452418) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511621)

Woot! Another step towards improving the human immune system. Something like this sounds oddly similar to something I said last October:

"It would be nice if one could program the current immune system with a broad range identifier would eliminate all but the rarest of virus infections. Then the next step would be to somehow analyze foreign invaders to give scientists advance warning. Then a way to create fixes automatically. David Weber gave a shot at imagining something like that but with alien tech implants and nanotech in his Troy series. Some DNA rewriting in the first book as well. How accurate he was I leave to you."

The 'way to create fixes automatically' part would fit in well with this article. Now they just need a detection method, a way to communicate to the human host, and something to link it all together. Whee!

Re:The next step! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512553)

Yes please do go down that route and please try to eliminate all those old-fashioned bad foods from
your diet. Only eat processed foods and make sure they are rich in sodium-benzoate and other
preservatives so you can be sure what you are putting in your mouth is as sterile as possible. Also
it is a good idea to exposure yourself to as many anti-microbial products as you can. You have no
idea how many germs live in your body, they all must go! If you're a woman you should also consider
a preemptive hysterectomy and possible also prophylactic radiation treatment of your breasts. There
is always a cancer cell stem lurking about, best you kill it before it kills you. If you're a man, prostrate
surgery is a good idea at any stage in life not when it is already too late. At least get as many
mammograms or prostrate checkups as you can. Vitamins can be outright dangerous, so make
sure to stay well below even the recommended dosage and make sure most of your vitamin intake
is from supplements. Don't get those expensive ones from health food stores, they are way too high
in dosage, interfere with your other prescription medication, and the formulations they use also do
not include many of the beneficial fillers like magnesium stearate and the like that prevent you from
taking minerals from your food. Also get on a calcium supplement. This is the one I would recommend
you can dose very high.

Die you motherfucker.

Re:The next step! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40513009)

Whoever modded this down needs to die too.

Mini factories... (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511899)

I'm going to save a ton of cash and outsource mine to India.

what is it about biotech (0)

cinnamon colbert (732724) | more than 2 years ago | (#40511935)

that brings out the 12 year old popular scientist kid lurking in every geek ? This is like so far from practical clincial use. Its fun to speculate, but we should be clear, this is *specualtion* and it is many years, and tens, if not hundreds of millions to get an FDA approved device. PS: I may not be able to spell, but I have a PhD in molecular biology, and understand stuff like highly conserved initiation factors with hyper modified histidine (hypusine) residues, the role of shine dalgarno....

Re:what is it about biotech (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512115)

Wow, now that I know you understand "highly conserved initiation factors with hyper modified histidine (hypusine) residues," I'll be compelled to believe you when you state that it will take 10s to 100s of millions of dollars to get an FDA approved device. Because, going through the FDA process is part of getting your PhD, right? What might have been more convincing would have been telling us about that other implantable device that you worked on getting through FDA. I'll definitely go to you when I've got a question about histidine residues though.

Re:what is it about biotech (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40513881)

Given the polite tone of your post, and the generous nature you betray, I'm happy to reply.

I've also worked on getting things thru the FDA, both on the device side (510(k)) and biologics (CBER)
10s of millions for a new technology like this is very optimistic - look at Alnylam if you want an recent example (and I think they are doing ocular, which is an easy administration route)
Or, more to the point, antisense and gene therapy; after 20 years, 100s of millions of dollars, these technologys are finally starting to get somewhere. (heck, just the cost of rebuilding the hybridon facility on Memorial Drive in Cambrdige MA must have cost 10 million dollars; I think the giant "hybridon" sign, cut into the stone at the top of the building, is still there, even tho hybridon is long gone)
Even injectable mAbs - the success story of recent biotech - mAbs were invented by C Milstein and his student in what, the 80s, and it was 20years later that we started to getdrugs ?
get the drift...or shd I snow some more

monsanto (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512035)

can imagine monsanto getting hold of this stuff... soon, we'll have all kinds of factorized cells.. next they'll claim we are GMH... I can see a lot of evil..

Imagine the possibilities! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40512253)

Just imagine soldiers and ordinary people with implants to make steroids inside the muscles and painkillers dripped directly the bloodstream without all those icky syringes!

Re:Imagine the possibilities! (3, Insightful)

BlueStrat (756137) | more than 2 years ago | (#40512611)

Just imagine soldiers and ordinary people with implants to make steroids inside the muscles and painkillers dripped directly the bloodstream without all those icky syringes!

I'm imagining an entire populace government-healthcare-mandated to have these laser-controlled nanofactories that can, besides their publicized abilities, also produce mild or heavy tranquilizers, or other mind/mood-altering drugs.

People protesting? Flash a laser and they're not so interested any more...can't really remember what it was they were mad about. Violent mob? Flash, and they fall unconscious. Government/police wants to question someone? Flash, and they get a dose of sodium pentathol or other similar drug. Government wants to set-up someone? Flash, and they get a nice big dose of rohypnol ("rufies") and star in an embarrassing video they don't/can't remember.

There's huge potential for abuse here.

Strat

Re:Imagine the possibilities! (4, Interesting)

BlueStrat (756137) | more than 2 years ago | (#40514237)

I see my post got modded "Troll".

To those who think I'm trolling, I'm not.

Just think for a minute: What kind of wet-dream would it be for the government's "War On Some Drugs & Poor People" types to be able to make it mandatory that everyone's implants time-release constant levels of medications & proteins that would prevent a person from getting "high" from illegal substances? Or even make them violently-ill? They already make pills that make someone violently ill if they drink alcohol to treat alcoholics.

Looking back over the past, do you really trust them not to go that far. or try like hell to? Especially after a few decades?

Who gets to control the implant(s)? Can the control be overridden/hacked? How do you secure that control? How can you be sure that what they tell you it can do is all it can do?

Frankly, without so much security and personal control protections built in that it almost makes it useless for emergency-type patient-unconscious-or-unresponsive scenarios, this concept scares the crap out of me.

Strat

Re:Imagine the possibilities! (1)

PiratePete1911 (2594001) | more than 2 years ago | (#40514761)

It will be fine once we figure out how to Jailbreak ourselves.

Re:Imagine the possibilities! (2)

BlueStrat (756137) | more than 2 years ago | (#40514893)

t will be fine once we figure out how to Jailbreak ourselves.

Just beware of that "early termination" clause for unauthorized access!! I'd hate for my body chemistry to "get bricked", as it were. ;)

Strat

Re:Imagine the possibilities! (1)

sohmc (595388) | more than 2 years ago | (#40516083)

I didn't mod your post but I can see why someone would have flagged it troll. It's a bit snarky. ;-)

However, your point is still valid and came to post this exact point: will you have a choice to not accept these "ultraviolet rays"? As much as we would like to, we don't control what our cells do. And there is a lot of good that this technology can do. How long until this becomes weaponized and used not only to cure, but also to control?

I will admit, however, there is some time before this debate absolutely needs to happen, This doesn't mean that it shouldn't happen now. If all it takes is ultraviolet radiation to program the cells, all it takes is some paranoid politician or evil genius to just pump people full of insulin to make them have a coma.

Re:Imagine the possibilities! (2)

BlueStrat (756137) | more than 2 years ago | (#40516229)

I didn't mod your post but I can see why someone would have flagged it troll. It's a bit snarky. ;-)

I just don't see any "snark" there. Maybe my "snark-ometer" needs recalibration. The only thing I see that someone could get their panties in a twist over is the mention of government-run healthcare as the vehicle for universal mandatory adoption. I simply thought it current, topical, and relevant in keeping with the recent SCOTUS decision.

If that's the case, someone needs to learn to be a little less thin-skinned. It wasn't a political bash. Trust me. Anyone familiar with my past posts would know that, when I DO come down on something, there's no doubt about it. I don't mince words, and I don't mind calling a spade a spade regardless of BS PC etiquette or delicate Liberal/Progressive sensibilities.

This ain't that.

Strat

Re:Imagine the possibilities! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40521397)

I'm glad someone said it! I think it's a HORRIBLE idea to put something in your body that you can't take out that just manufactures whatever drug it's told to.

I mean, where's the common sense? Like, this is stuff straight out of horror movies.

Oh, but noooo... it's science! And science could never ever possibly be used for evil, right?

Re:Imagine the possibilities! (1)

Fned (43219) | more than 2 years ago | (#40521821)

I see my post got modded "Troll".

To those who think I'm trolling, I'm not.

Just think for a minute: What kind of wet-dream would it be for the government's "War On Some Drugs & Poor People" types to be able to make it mandatory that everyone's implants time-release constant levels of medications & proteins that would prevent a person from getting "high" from illegal substances? Or even make them violently-ill?

Wait, do you somehow imagine that the War on Drugs is to stop people from taking the illegal substances?!? Here are the top five lobbyists against drug legalization:

1) Police Unions. They get big budgets and more powers every year the drug war goes on. If it stops, the gravy trough dries up. They would hate this.
2) Private Prison Industry. If people aren't taking illegal drugs, we can't put them in prison, and the gravy trough dries up. They would also hate this.
3) Alcohol Industry. These guys probably wouldn't mind -- PROVIDED the implants don't affect your ability to enjoy alcohol.
4) Pharmaceutical Industry. These guys would DEFINITELY have a problem - no cocaine, no Prozac; no heroin, no Vicodin. It would be a nifty trick to selectively block some specific serotonin uptake reinhibitors or opiates but not others...
5) Prison guard unions. See 2 above, but throw in government-run prisons as well.

Re:Imagine the possibilities! (1)

gutnor (872759) | more than 2 years ago | (#40515823)

So you also miss the good old days playing Syndicate :-)

Re:Imagine the possibilities! (1)

thesandtiger (819476) | more than 2 years ago | (#40516889)

The thing is, it wouldn't really enable much in the way of behaviors that the governments of the world can't do right now, if they feel like it.

It would be a fairly trivial task to simply fake a video of someone who they want to set up, or why even bother with that when it's even easier: "So and so was found to have large amounts of child pornography on their system" and said person is basically fucked for life.Who needs to roofie them?

Sonic weapons, tear gas, other "less than lethal" tools are being used against protesters and even when they are completely abused and police are caught on camera doing horrible shit, nobody cares. Remember that veteran who had his skull cracked during the OWS protests and it was caught on film? Or how about that woman in the wheel chair who was simply trying to get away but was tear gassed and pepper sprayed and that was caught on video? Or how about those protesters who were kneeling, hands on head, and that cop walked by spraying them in the face? Nobody gives a shit except for the people protesting and a few others. We don't need a pharmacopia to turn people passive as clearly they already are.

I don't disagree that there is the potential for abuse, but not much more really than is currently available by any number of methods, and it doesn't seem like there's much of a need for it.

nice job reframing (4, Insightful)

khipu (2511498) | more than 2 years ago | (#40512329)

Don't get me wrong, this is a nice achievement.

But calling this "mini-factories", "programming", and "nanotechnology" is a clever reframing to make a combination of standard molecular biology techniques that are very far from actual medical use appear more hip and high tech.

dupe (1)

mapfortu (2567463) | more than 2 years ago | (#40512909)

It's called the immune system. If yours is not working properly it is likely because there is too much water clogging up your cellular machinery. A full fast [wikispaces.com] is recommended.

How about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40513537)

Having it release painkillers? Imagine permanent opioid high. Would be sweet.

awsiome.. they 'invented' cells.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40513573)

The whole purpose of a cell is to act like a factory producing things that the body as a whole needs. Is this going to mean that pharma is going to wage a patent cell war where people who have naturally occurring mutation 'factories' will be sued and pharma can use radiation to remove the cells?

Bloody stupid..

yeah. it's called (1)

Ralph Spoilsport (673134) | more than 2 years ago | (#40513855)

organic unprocessed whole FOOD.

Hac-hac-cough-cough (1)

pubwvj (1045960) | more than 2 years ago | (#40514223)

Hackable people.

Promising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40515961)

Call me when it can make the contents of TiKaL and PiKaL

okay (1)

Captain.Abrecan (1926372) | more than 2 years ago | (#40516149)

I hope they work on vats of cells synthesizing things that we need, in order to help people, like insulin & stuff. That would be cool.
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