Beta
×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

Social Networks, Suicide and Statistics

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the you-and-31-friends-like-the-black-capsule dept.

Social Networks 66

mikejuk writes "The data that is available in social networks is often used to detect the opinion of the crowd — but can it reveal the state of mind of the individual. New research suggests that some simple but non-obvious characteristics of social network use are related to suicide. Data mining is usually about determining things of economic advantage, but in this case, suicide we have a personal loss and an economic one. A new paper by a group of Japanese researchers Naoki Masuda, Issei Kurahashi and Hiroko Onari claims to have found ways of detecting suicidal tendencies — or at least the tendency to think about suicide, so-called 'suicide ideation.' The study used the Japanese social network mixi, which has over 27 million members and allows users to join any of over 4.5 million topic groups — some focusing on the subject of suicide. This provided a study and control group to compare. The most interesting finding is that while users in the suicide group had lots of friends, they didn't have as many transitive relationships i.e. where A friends B friends C friends A. This suggests that it isn't lack of friends but a lack of tight social groupings that is a factor. The same technique could be used to investigate similar problems such as depression and alcohol abuse."

Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected.

'tight social grouping' (2)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40574517)

the most interesting finding is that while users in the suicide group had lots of friends, they didn't have as many transitive relationships i.e. where A friends B friends C friends A. This suggests that it isn't lack of friends but a lack of tight social groupings that is a factor.

- or it could be just that these people are mostly unknown to each other in the real life.

Re:'tight social grouping' (5, Insightful)

Exrio (2646817) | more than 2 years ago | (#40574551)

You don't have to know each other in real life to have a tight social group. It happens online too.

I'd rephrase it as: "These are not real friends, just people they stumbled upon on the Internet."

I don't use social networks but I have a feeling that's mostly what ends up happening.

Re:'tight social grouping' (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574751)

But did you know that they HAVE DISCOVERED HIGGS BOSON AT CERN EUROPE. NERD PARTY WOOHOOO take off all the clothes and wiggle WOOOHOOO

Re:'tight social grouping' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574597)

No, it sounds plausible. Suicide is highly correlated with poor social integration. The incomplete social integration in this study supports this view without having to make an assumption of virtual vs. real friends.

Re:'tight social grouping' (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574683)

Suicide is not only connected with poor social integration, it is just one of the many reasons. And I'm speaking as someone who just tried to commit suicide but couldn't finish it. Not because of poor social integration, but continued major pain and developing skitsofrenia.

Re:'tight social grouping' (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 2 years ago | (#40576791)

I am poorly integrated socially. That doesn't make me suicidal. I'm going to stay around as long as possible to make all the sunsabitches who don't like me suffer!! Fuck suicide!

Re:'tight social grouping' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40577345)

I don't have any friends, no ones called me in 20 years.......Whatever, I'm not going anywhere..... bitches!

Re:'tight social grouping' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574695)

Methodical flaws or alternate explanations don't matter because it "sounds plausible"? Have you heard of something called the scientific method?

Re:'tight social grouping' (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574921)

Methodical flaws or alternate explanations don't matter because it "sounds plausible"? Have you heard of something called the scientific method?

Oh please. Why does science have to bother with things everybody knows? Lookit, most 'mericans believe in God, therefore mind your own beeswax. And ghosts. etc. Say Poindexter, I'll bet you're a Leo or an Aires aren't you?

Re:'tight social grouping' (4, Funny)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40574697)

"lack of tight social groupings" is the "real friends" part I suppose.

anyways, what comes out of it is that youth should be encouraged to join GANGS!

Re:'tight social grouping' (2)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40574805)

Makes sense, so you are saying that Yakuza should be recruiting from suicide forums.

Re:'tight social grouping' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574743)

Or it could just describe the specific network topology of a suicide forum, as opposed to other kinds of fora. I also don't buy the assumption that people on suicide fora are necessarily suicidal themselves. They could just be friends of suicidal people or had someone close to them kill themselves. Or they could be trying to help people who have suicidal thoughts. Or they could be trolls...

Re:'tight social grouping' (1)

chrismcb (983081) | more than 2 years ago | (#40579883)

- or it could be just that these people are mostly unknown to each other in the real life.

Which would be the definition of "lack of tight social groupings"

Re:'tight social grouping' (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580791)

No, it's only a 'lack of tight social groupings' in that specific Internet social network.

other interesting facts (5, Insightful)

alphatel (1450715) | more than 2 years ago | (#40574521)

  • 1) People who successfully commit suicide do not poll well.
  • 2) Most that fail to commit suicide realize they shouldn't be looking for help on social networks.
  • 3) Those that fail to commit suicide and then fail to realize they shouldn't be looking for help on social networks attempt suicide again. If successful, see 1, if unsuccessful, loop until 3.

Re:other interesting facts (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 2 years ago | (#40575967)

"2) Most that fail to commit suicide realize they shouldn't be looking for help on social networks."

They should have inferred that from posts suggesting they "an hero", but some folks are a bit dense...

Re:other interesting facts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40577677)

4) For any study where A and B are correlated, you can *always* come up with some story to explain why the true causal effect of A on B is negative (i.e. A causes B to decrease).

So while your story is not ridiculous, most people's intuition will lead them interpret this study as supporting the idea that a certain kind of social network causes suicidal ideation.

Re:other interesting facts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40582253)

I don't fully agree with your #2. After my failed suicide attempt I was posting on reddit before I had enough courage/strength to be able to talk about some of my problems to real people. I was sort-of hoping someone I knew would find my reddit account and help me. That never happened, but I was finally able to walk into a medical center and ask for some help.

High suicide rate in Japan (-1, Offtopic)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40574541)

Oh, and by the way, the economic stagnation that the Japanese government is literally pushing upon the people by high level of government created inflation, preventing the society from deleveraging and restructuring the debts, preventing the economy from shaking loose of the dead weight zombie banks and other gov't propped up zombie companies, thus preventing the necessary investment capital from being available to people with business ideas and without funding... this wouldn't have anything to do with the crazy levels of stress that the Japanese are experiencing because they are stuck in these zombie companies and are scared of losing their jobs, because they wouldn't be able to find new ones? The young generations that are coming online, the crazy expectations that they must get accepted by one of those zombie companies because again, the investments are crowded out by government propping up the companies that should fail and shouldn't be around, so the young can only hope to get hired by the same failing and bailed out companies that everybody else hopes to work for because of lack of new opportunity... this wouldn't have anything to do with the depression that causes higher rates of suicide, would it?

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574737)

preventing the society from deleveraging and restructuring the debts

Now that's an interesting idea: without government stepping in and telling people "sorry, you get pennies on the dollar", how could bankruptcy work? Japan refused to permit the banks that had completely sunk themselves in their real estate crash years ago to go bankrupt, essentially turning them and their employees into debt slaves, working day in and day out for proceeds they'll never see.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (0)

HornWumpus (783565) | more than 2 years ago | (#40576445)

Exactly like Freddy and Fanny then. Except taxpayers are on the hook for loses and they refuse audits.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574855)

the economic stagnation that the Japanese government is literally pushing upon the people

Fascinating. They're using bulldozers, I take it? Fool.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (3, Informative)

Cyberax (705495) | more than 2 years ago | (#40575047)

Oh, and by the way, the economic stagnation that the Japanese government is literally pushing upon the people by high level of government created inflatio

WTF are you smoking? http://www.indexmundi.com/japan/inflation_rate_(consumer_prices).html [indexmundi.com] - Japanese inflation has been ZERO OR NEGATIVE for the 9 years of the last 12 years. Current inflation is ZERO.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (1)

misexistentialist (1537887) | more than 2 years ago | (#40575743)

Zero based on the price of certain manufactured, imported products that the government chooses to measure. But printing more money doesn't necessarily raise all prices even while it's destroying people's standard of living.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (2)

Cyberax (705495) | more than 2 years ago | (#40575799)

Zero based on the price of certain manufactured, imported products that the government chooses to measure.

Wrong. Japan has its own analog of the The Billion Prices Project. It shows essentially the same data - zero inflation or deflation for more than 10 years now.

Besides, even the classic economic theory (i.e. Austrian economics) insists that inflation can't stay confined to a single area.

But printing more money doesn't necessarily raise all prices even while it's destroying people's standard of living.

How? Really, do you actually have any model that rationally explains how it is "destroying people's standard of living"? Can your model give predictions?

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40576587)

Inflation is huge in Japan, it prevents the prices from dropping further, it prevents companies from shutting down and it prevents unproductively used malinvested capital from being freed up and restructured.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (1)

Cyberax (705495) | more than 2 years ago | (#40576633)

Dude. You're simply delusional. Inflation is LESS THAN ZERO in Japan.

That means that prices ARE ACTUALLY FALLING. I repeat, prices are actually falling.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40576885)

Inflation is huge in Japan, inflation is money printing, price change is only a consequence of inflation. Dude.

In Japan the government is preventing prices from falling further, it's preventing the restructuring with all the money printing, which is what inflation is. Given all of the productivity and the recession in Japan the prices must be falling much faster, in real terms Japan is going through deflation, which is what would have restructured the debts and would have shut down the failed companies.

The government is fighting this every day with huge amounts of money printing, which is what inflation is, I know that you don't understand a word of what this means, so never mind.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (1)

Cyberax (705495) | more than 2 years ago | (#40577065)

Inflation is huge in Japan, inflation is money printing, price change is only a consequence of inflation. Dude.

Let met quote the dictionary definition: "In economics, inflation is a rise in the general level of prices of goods and services in an economy over a period of time."

Now GTFO until you learn at least some basics of economics instead of dumb conspiracy goldbuggery crap.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40577421)

Let met quote the dictionary definition: "In economics, inflation is a rise in the general level of prices of goods and services in an economy over a period of time."

- yes, the dictionaries today have that incorrect definition, but the definitions were changed, so you should GTFO, the Orwell was only too right.

From the 19th century up to the Eleventh New Collegiate Dictionary, issued in 2003, Webster's defined inflation as money printing.

In 2003, the definition changed to "a continuing rise in the general price level," which is only "usually attributed" to an abundance of money.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40579619)

Inflation, used in the economics realm, has always been about price levels. Since printing money doesn't necessarily mean shit to economics. Printed money could increase the money supply or could be replacing worn out bills. Any bill printed as a replacement has essentially no effect on the economy.

So.. saying inflation = printing money is about as useful to a discussion of economics as saying inflation = putting air in my tires.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580799)

used in the economics realm, has always been about price levels.

- nonsense.

Inflation has never been about prices themselves (until 2003 change in Webster dictionary), unless you are new to the whole human language thing, 'to inflate' never was 'to have rising prices'.

Prices rise and fall.

Inflation was always about expansion, in case of money it was expansion of monetary supply.

Deflation is also about monetary supply, not about falling prices.

As to your tires: they don't 'rise' or 'fall', they inflate or deflate, so your comparison there is quite apt (not that you'd know it).

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (1)

Cyberax (705495) | more than 2 years ago | (#40589303)

No it's not. GTFO.

Expansion in monetary supply is just that - expansion in monetary supply. It can lead to inflation (the general rise in prices) but it's not necessary.

Consider this scenario: US treasury mints 10 platinum coins, each of them worth 1 trillion dollars. Then buries them in a trench in Pacific Ocean. It's definitely a monetary expansion (there's 10 more trillions $ in the economy) but it won't cause inflation since the money is not in the circulation.

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (1)

Nicolai Haehnle (609575) | more than 2 years ago | (#40577723)

I suspect you are replying to people who have in mind a definition that "inflation = increase of the money supply". Needless to say that this is a ridiculous definition to start from in modern days, since the size of the money supply is not a thing anybody cares about as a primary indicator; the only reasonable definition for inflation is via the price level. But old habits die hard, and the nuts who want the world to work differently are very vocal in this small corner of economics. Don't sweat it ;-)

Re:High suicide rate in Japan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40577183)

It's nice to know that inflation is the only indicator of economic health, period. That vastly simplifies economics. You should get a nobel prize.

july 6, 2021 (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574585)

i already have a day picked out. i have been thinking about offing myself for a really long time. i figured i better have a day so that i can get everything finished before then. the day looks far away, but i will do it sometime before. i guess you could call it my deadline. haha. been wanting to off myself since 3rd grade. just too scared to do it. 39 years old now. i see myself as a waste of resources. i consume valuable oxygen that someone deserves more. i consume crude oil. we all know how valuable it is. back to the fact - i hate me. i hate everything about me. i hate myself for feeling this way.

Re:july 6, 2021 (4, Funny)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 2 years ago | (#40574755)

i already have a day picked out. i have been thinking about offing myself for a really long time.

That's sad.

i consume crude oil.

I think I see a problem right there. That would drive me crazy as well. Have you tried smoked salmon with potato wedges instead?

Re:july 6, 2021 (1)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 2 years ago | (#40575013)

back to the fact - i hate me. i hate everything about me. i hate myself for feeling this way.

When you feel that way it's not something you can be talked out of. But you have some days when you feel better than others. On one of your better days consider that it's really just chemistry that makes you feel one way or the other. It's not "truth". Acknowledging that does not make it something you can control. But you can ignore it.

Tell everyone you know all your family. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580383)

Be honest. Face the fear.

Hopefully someone will in fact help you find reasons to live.

Re:july 6, 2021 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40584841)

As one 39 year old suicidal loser to another, go to 4chan.org/b/ and stick around for a good bawwwww thread. Hell, start one yourself. I've found that's one of the only things that helps my depression some days, that and the heroin, which obviously isn't a viable long term solution. Also, get a cat (2 is better, but you need at least one. When I start eyeballing that extension cord and garage door opener, I go play with my kitties for a bit, or just watch them as they sleep. Knowing what would happen to them if I pulled the plug (shelter,then euthanasia) has kept me alive so far. Posting AC for obvious reasons.

I Guess If You're Gonna Do it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574603)

... Go out with an audience..? The goal of every suicide is to make the world pay.

well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574621)

"but in this case, suicide we have a personal loss and an economic one"

what's the economic loss? could that be the reason for the suicide? Realizing you are a cog in the machine keeping it going, a battery in the matrix, where there is no more hope but to get used up, and when they are done with you you get thrown out for another?

That's how it feels in the US too. You can't fight back, that would be well, suicide. It's a double edged sword, you want to change the way and you protest, you get your head slammed to the ground, or you just give up and commit suicide. Keep going it's what 70 or so years as a slave to the machine?

Re:well (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574715)

As cynical as it sounds, I guess they have to mention economic loss in order to get funding for their research. I mean, teenage suicide is just taken for granted. Nobody is changing the school system because of that. Bullying is presented in pop media as a fact of life, a rite of passage that makes you stronger if you make it through. Bullying prepares you for corporate life and for the binary gender system. That is its function as an institution.

Re:well (4, Interesting)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40575187)

In my opinion, bullying isn't an "institution", it's a fact of evolution. All social animals "bully" each other as they're growing up; there are hierarchies, dominance and submissiveness within any pack animal's social group.

Now, we're obviously a bit more rational about it then, say, a litter of wolf pups, and we can find psychological reasons behind why Person A bullies Person B, but there will always be competition in any social group. The mother wolf will step in if the Alpha male in her litter is being too rough with his litter-mates, give him a nip of her own, and he'll knock it the fuck off.

I don't think the problems we have with bullying these days have anything to do with the kids, and everything to do with us. Zero-tolerance policies in schools, for instance, serve to punish both the aggressor and the victim equally, which is ridiculous. This was true even when I was in high school 15 years ago, pre-Columbine before the bullying hysteria started really ramping up, and it's even worse today. Parents aren't disciplining their kids effectively (which is why so many bullies come from broken homes or empty ones due to chronic absentee parents chasing that big brass ring to leave their kids raised by 4Chan), and they're not noticing the signs of this behavior when the kids are young enough that the behavior can really be corrected. Our definitions of what is 'bullying' are changing all the time, too. We've become more and more sensitive on a societal level to it, and I really do think that it's become a sort of moral panic at this point. "Did Jimmy call you a doody-head?! He's a dirty BULLY AND MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!!!!! Throw his 7-year-old ass in JAIL!!!!!!!!"

I realize that's a little insensitive, and that there is much more severe forms of bullying than that, but I've heard younger parents characterize relatively innocent shit like that as bullying in conversation. Bullying is starting to come to mean any negative interaction between two kids anymore. I had my share of adversaries in school, as did most people, and while we had our dust ups, I wouldn't call the other kids bullies. We just didn't get along. That's how life is, sometimes, and guess what? It did make me stronger. It taught me how to deal with antagonistic people like that, which is a pretty useful skill, especially these days where everything has become so polarized. I learned not to let the shit get to me when I was a kid, but if we shelter kids from that shit in the misguided idea that we're going to turn school into a utopia where nobody fights with each other, they're just going to end up unable to deal with any adversity in their lives as adults. Not only are we over-sanitizing our world to the point where kids are getting sicker than they used to due to lack of exposure to germs, but we're starting to do the same thing to them socially, as well.

What happens when they start having to deal with those people when they've never learned how to deal with them before? They feel helpless, they get despondent and depressed, and they think suicide is the only solution...because they never learned how to deal with the bullshit. Their self-esteem and confidence is shot to hell because they've never had the opportunity to rise to a challenge and deal with it on their own, so when they actually are forced to deal with a situation on their own, they're powerless.

Re:well (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 2 years ago | (#40576951)

Wow - you're almost my hero. You did screw it up, though. You seem to be apologetic for your insensitivity. Don't apologize. Your friends don't need it, and your enemies won't believe or accept an apology. Just man up, and tell them, "I'm insensitive. I don't give much of a rat's ass that some punk called your twinky-ass son a 'doody-head'. You and your pussified son need to grow a pair!"

With your last sentence, I could launch into a rant on our political parties. Both parties like to have us feeling powerless, and dependent on them - but I'll leave that for another day.

Re:well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40577063)

Posting AC for obvious reasons...I've gone through all of this, not just bullying, but suicidal ideation, and a crapload of self-harm. I'm being treated right now, actually, for all of this, after hiding it very well from my family, friends, and spouse for the past 10 years.

You got some stuff right - it is about feeling helpless, and unable to cope, but it isn't that simple. Depression is bad, but if you realize you're depressed, you can write it off as something you're just going through right now, and it will eventually end, almost always. The issue comes when you pack on other things.

Fear, fear so inescapable you don't think you'll ever stop feeling it, that's hard to experience, and worse than depression, because it's a lot harder to fight, it's a lot more "base" and almost instinctual. Have a panic attack everytime you wake up because you're afraid of living another day will drive you to do insane things to try to sleep longer or just sleep forever. You feel like a caged animal, not just unable to cope, but that you don't know what will happen today, and not knowing, and consigning yourself to oblivion, is far preferable than having to find out what will happen.

Bullying plays a part, because it isolates people from people who might help - and shaming them, you're absolutely right, that shame is what drives people to hide emotions and pain, which leads into a vicious cycle of self-hatred and depression. But your solution, which seems to be stop trying to protect people and let them deal with shit, I don't agree with.

We need outreach. We need openness. We need to say it's OKAY to feel these things, it isn't shameful to feel suicidal, or want to hurt yourself, or ACTUALLY hurt yourself, it's okay. When things in schools weren't so zero-tolerance, it was basically "you're a pussy" if you do that crap - we don't need to go back to that, that will be just as bad.

The day I finally told someone I had been injuring myself, in some cases seriously enough to pass out, was the day a work colleague opened up to me about being suicidal when he was younger, and I felt like I could open up without being ashamed. That was the start of me getting help. I pray that we don't make people in my situation, but younger and even less able to cope, go through that shame and lack of understanding. I hope we show them it's okay to feel whatever you feel.

The experiment lack a control. (4, Insightful)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 2 years ago | (#40574707)

Where's the control group of people who abstain from social networks?

Re:The experiment lack a control. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40576421)

Uh, that'd be me. It seems everyone else has joined social networks.

Re:The experiment lack a control. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40577659)

Slashdot has become a social network. One that has it's own set of social rules, commentary, and system of 'Likes'.

Re:The experiment lack a control. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40576467)

The control group was the 200,000 members they selected to analyze who were NOT members of suicide forums on mixi. Perhaps you should go learn what "control group" means, before you start shouting about a study's lack of a control group.

Re:The experiment lack a control. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40576787)

I'm fine. +1

Re:The experiment lack a control. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40577041)

They've all committed suicide due to lack of facebook friends.

Did they just outlaw introversion? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574723)

where A friends B friends C friends A.

Did they just outlaw introversion? We see you don't have the required number of friends. Please report to the nearest reeducation center immediately.

Anyone sucked in deserves what they get (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574757)

Seriously. None of it is needed or even desireable. It's like overdosing on TMZ, Entertainment Tonight, Hollywood Insider, and a bajillion other "social" networking concepts - which are all desigend to make people think they are clebrities.

Fuck them all.

Did they test it on MySpace? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40574987)

Probably got a buffer overflow.

You dont say? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40575667)

Lack of (real life) social support makes you more vulnerable to suicide?

Oh wow! That is ground breaking research!

Modern "science", discovering what everybody else already knows

"tight" social groupings may be "scenes" (2)

erice (13380) | more than 2 years ago | (#40576773)

Which often aren't tight at all. All it means that you know many of the same people. It doesn't mean you are close to any of them.

The "non-triangular" connections may actually be more important since they represent interest in the specific individual.

I would be curious about non-reciprocal links, if the social network supports the concept.

Re:"tight" social groupings may be "scenes" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40579249)

Maybe, but your story isn't consistent with this data then. And AFAIK most Facebook friendships are by definition reciprocal.

Re:"tight" social groupings may be "scenes" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580293)

Also, this all only applies to children. Once you're an adult, your social circle gets smaller. By the time you're in your thirties, you don't really have a "group". You might have A friend or TWO friends and even then, you keep in touch with them sparely. Adults have their own lives to lead and don't want to deal with the added bullshit of other people in the few hours they have to themselves.

Re:"tight" social groupings may be "scenes" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580649)

Part of getting to know people is meeting their friends. If you like the person and think of them as a friend, their other friends are probably going to have similar interests and tastes to you as well.

Whats the conclusion here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40576851)

interesting, so

- before social media it was established that suicide risk groups consisted of individuAls that did not have enough social contacts that could intervene

- with social media it is now established that these same people tend to group themselves insocial media groups that as group doesnt tend to have much social interaction with other groups

"we now present evidence thatwhen putting waterdrops in a pool, that both waterdrops and the pool as collective entity seems to follow the same behaviour"

analytics reveal behaviors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40576923)

Yawn. Yeah that's great. Social network analytics reveal behaviors, specifically suicidal indicators in this case. When I see friends and relatives with great super fun, meaningful, adventure-filled lives with loving hallmark moments 24/7 I wanna kill myself too. I coulda been somebody. I coulda been a winnah. I coulda gotten laid so much more. Who has access to these analytics? Big GOV, lil GOV, and dumbfucks in HR do.

How to find cheap NFL jerseys . (1)

qinda (2678129) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580031)

They may be: Product What ever you are offering your client. NFLjerseys [slashdot.org] . simply to title some. The rest of this post briefly defines the elements with the B-I Triangle in general phrases to set the phase for that long term posts. I am creating these content articles to assist me create my organization design. The framework keeping the five work collectively are Mission, Management, and Group. Since I am within the method of developing my personal model, I believed it could be advantageous to other net entrepreneurs if we work via the procedure with each other. Let's operate collectively and from the finish in the collection of content, we both may have created a design for cheap jerseys several successful years of enterprise.. Immediately after establishing the design, I will have a map of what I require to accomplish to be profitable.I am within the method of producing an Net Company. As with any enterprise inside the development phase, cheap nfl jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] the very first factor I need to do is develop a business product. This article is the initial of in a collection of 9 articles designed to operate via the 8 elements of enterprise type as they relate to making an effective net business. I very suggest that each and every entrepreneur study "Before You Stop Your Job", even when you might have already quit. Management Several work opportunities which includes defining the company's mission, generating the group, trying to keep the company strong, cheap jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] developing the firm, etc. The purpose the B-I Triangle is such a good company design is the fact that the authors current the product in a quite stylish, yet easy graphic that is certainly simple to understand and bear in mind. Cash movement The meat of the issue. Communications Necessary to achieve your cheap nfl jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] clients. Obviously, my objective is for it to become productive. The framework that retains your whole business collectively includes Mission, Leadership, and Team. The type has five employment that are required for achievement. Every single 1 of these elements of the enterprise wants to be fully developed to make a genuinely productive company. Mission The true objective of one's firm Team Individuals who help the purpose of your company as well as the work essential for success. wholesale cheap NFL jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] ,Systems Organization structure necessary to assistance your business. The purpose I need to have to perform this very first is the fact that it describes the way in which my company makes funds. These 5 work opportunities of an organization are held collectively inside a framework of a profitable cheap jerseys company. Legitimate Includes numerous elements of your enterprise, beginning using the right entity structure for your business. Very first outlined are the 5 employment of the company model. Also essential for partners, investors, workers, vendors, and also other people concerned, even superficially, wholesale NFL jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] ,with your organization venture.One from the very best generic company designs I have at any time operate across may be the B-I Triangle, developed by Robert Kiyosaki with Sharon Lechter, introduced in "Rich Dad's Manual to Investing" and defined very obviously in "Rich Dad's Just before You Give up your Job". Establishing an organization model is crucial. You also need to have to keep in mind other aspects of one's company call for lawful assistance at the same time including copyrighting, partnerships, licensing, etc. The five employment are product, legitimate, methods, communications, and money stream. wholesale cheap jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] ,Without optimistic money movement your business will collapse.

You want to buy high quality cheap MLB jersey? (1)

qinda (2678129) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580059)

He was 0-3 against me and did not come close to getting a hit off me MLB jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] . I still have to show him other pitches and other locations also. It's amazing how I can remember the details from over forty years ago but I was heart broken and that's probably why I can remember it so well. I was very upset and emotional after the game and my father, God rest his soul, had a very nice chat with me. We lost the game 2-1 in extra innings. I remember his timing was disrupted and literally saw the look of bewilderment on his face after the pitch.I want to get to know him as quickly as possible wholesale cheap jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] ." Well, the only thing I knew about him was that he batted something ridiculous like . The next batter popped up to end the inning and I was done for the game, as the league rules required me to leave after six innings. We led 1-0 in the last inning and I was starting to get tired. With one out, I walked a batter.I am not making fun of Danny nor am I bragging. Our second baseman runs over about three steps to his left, is in front of the ball and it goes through his legs. Remember that even if I see that a hitter does not like a pitch in a certain location, it does not mean that I can throw that same pitch over and over and over again and expect to be successful. I had him "chopping the wood," as it's referred too. I struck out the next batter on a fastball. In two subsequent at bats, he hesitated and decided to swing at the last fraction of a second wholesale cheap MLB jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] . He may possibly close his stance just before getting ready to swing. Baseball pitching tips require clever use of the mind as well as the body and pitching is not simply getting the ball and throwing the pitch. Good hitters will make adjustments at the plate. So there is a runner on first base and two outs. I told you I had a very successful outing and that's totally true. No problem. He would progressively go from looking terrible to looking very good and that's why he's a very good hitter. The only point I'm making here is for your benefit and not mine. I now also knew, after only one pitch that he does not like my curve ball. The next batter hits a fairly easy grounder to second base. Please make sure you learn a hitter's tendencies as quickly as possible! And don't ever forget to take that sneaky look at those practice swings, one of the best cheap MLB jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] pitching tips you will ever hear!. I have to be honest and level with you here. He had smoke coming out of his ears when he came up to the plate and I thought, "Oh boy, here we go.I still need one out and they have their second best hitter up.. He swung down at the ball with the very unusual appearance that he was hammering a spike into the ground.) OK, let's get back to knowing a batter quickly." My first pitch to him was a slow curve ball. I still had to show him the fast ball because he's a good hitter for a reason and he will make adjustments. (Ouch!) I should be celebrating a 1-0 victory with a 2 hit shutout! But instead, there are now runners on first and second and still two outs. I have always and still have total respect for everyone on the baseball field.600. If I threw him only curve balls, probably about the fifth one would go over the fence. You have to pay attention, just like a batter who takes your pitch and follows it all the way into the catcher's mitt to see how your pitch is moving. wholesale MLB jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] The point is that I was able to learn a lot about this hitter after throwing one pitch! He saw fastballs off the plate and medium speed or slow curve balls the entire game. I had a two hit shutout going into the last inning. For example, a batter may have his bat curled around his head but when he's actually ready to hit, he changes and it's NOT curled any longer." My father was great and made me feel a little better but this one hurt and my tears reflected just that. I experienced this first hand when I was pitching at the age of 15. Let's make sure we are clear on something. I had a very successful outing in our championship game. wholesale jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] He kept dwelling on my solid performance and told me, "you pitched your heart out and that's all you can do. They scored in the first extra inning on a walk and then a double and beat us 2-1.. . I threw him a "mistake," a high curve ball and he singled to left center to tie the game up. Be cautious that a batter doesn't start out one way and then when he is actually swinging, he changes. We lived less than a mile from the park but my father and I drove around for about twenty minutes before returning home to break the bad news to my mother and sisters. (Thanks for letting me share my heartbreaking story with you. Please. Another example is if a batter has an open stance. Now please keep in mind the purpose of this article. cheap jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] You may start a hitter off with a curve ball and he may act like he's never seen a curve ball before. After this peculiar swing, I actually saw his eyes squint as he was shaking his head from left to right and right to left as if saying "no. A player on the other team was a feared and outstanding hitter! I knew very little about him other than that everybody knew he was a tremendous hitter.

Cheap NHL jersey you can have. (1)

qinda (2678129) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580069)

Any real design should not deviate from this range NHL jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] . This may be the name of the player or team badges and promotional signs. The quality of the original design and clothing prices high wholesale NHL jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] . Another recognition function is attached to the external design of the main material. Some companies offer online custom design or to seek these services from retailers. Small, medium and large categories according to each different measurement. The original design will be sold in an identifiable, the average price. Men's clothing design is different from a pure design clothing, ladies can be customized to suit individual preferences. This is when players or teams have fewer appearances following smaller room to create a new design wholesale cheap jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] , their goods discounted prices high to sell the remaining inventory of the shop signs. The result is a cheap jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] , fan the ultimate desire. You can change the name and phone number in a different graphic styles, create a custom one favorite team or player equipment illustrations. When the players move from one team to another, or off-season period, the most favorable price. This should be the size of the higher scale. A real design, I feel there is no weak moment, these functions run your fingers flat. Neatly unified on a regular basis in the entire garment needle sewn edge, especially the size of the color of clothes vary from other defined three types of wear. Applicable in the same shades of color. The team outlets will send the exact replica of the original design at preferential prices, therefore, give the fans a cheaper option.The Internet's rapid price change of team and player movement.. An approximate measurements to determine the approximate size of his body. This is not able to withstand a cheap NHLjerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] option that does not mean poor quality. This is wholesale cheap NHL jerseys [cheapjerseys-hot.com] the exact function of the familiar, the definition of a real design, in order to avoid false design attractive discounts and low price tag fell buyer.

Tom (1)

Cyfun (667564) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581079)

Top of their list: Tom Anderson of Myspace. He created a social networking site for the sole purpose that it would force everyone to be his friend. However, in the end, he has 11,781,293 friends, but hasn't even met one of them in person.
Check for New Comments
Slashdot Login

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?