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Controlling Linux Using an Android Phone As Mouse, Keyboard, and Gamepad

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the purely-awesome dept.

Android 93

beefsack writes "Miniand have demonstrated how to control Linux using a Samsung Galaxy S2. Using an MK802 with the ARM build of Droidmote server bundled into an MK802 Lubuntu image with uinput enabled, Miniand demonstrates (video) using an Android phone as a keyboard, mouse, and gamepad over Wi-Fi to the device." Update: 07/10 00:07 GMT by U L : reader ancienthart pointed toward Premotedroid, an (possibly, I could find no license in the code but the code is there) open source alternative.

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Rube-goldberg (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580471)

802.11? Rube-goldberg much? Why not over bluetooth as a HID?

Re:Rube-goldberg (1)

hvm2hvm (1208954) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580561)

I'm guessing because not all desktops have bluetooth capability.

Re:Rube-goldberg (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580567)

Because all desktops have wifi?

Re:Rube-goldberg (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580609)

No, but they are probably connected to the internet.

Re:Rube-goldberg (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580813)

Wow, if you're being serious, then what the hell is wrong with you?

Re:Rube-goldberg (1)

cynyr (703126) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581373)

why would my stationary desktop need wifi (mine has it but I ran a cable to it anyways) when there is gigabit available? it's not like my desktop moves all that much, and by the time i unplug all the other cords, how much work is an Ethernet cord?

Re:Rube-goldberg (3, Informative)

KClaisse (1038258) | more than 2 years ago | (#40582465)

Its not the desktop that needs the wifi its the android device. The android phone connects to the local network through wifi, presumably the same network that the desktop PC is located on.

Re:Rube-goldberg (2)

GuldKalle (1065310) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581521)

Are you deliberately being stupid?
Not all desktops have wireless, but I'd wager most of them are connected to a wireless router. Especially if the owner has a smartphone. So they don't need wireless.

Re:Rube-goldberg (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580709)

All desktops have wifi? Those that bother to have wifi on the motherboard will probably have Bluetooth too.

A bluetooth dongle for usb will cost you a few dollars on ebay.

Re:Rube-goldberg (2)

NerdyLove (1133693) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580729)

Wireless bridge, duh?

Re:Rube-goldberg (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580821)

From my cursory glance, it appears to connect to a receiver like any other wireless device would, meaning anyone with a wifi router would be able to use this.

I would say this is far more available than through Bluetooth, yes.

Re:Rube-goldberg (3, Informative)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581443)

Um, it would work on a desktop with wired ethernet too... It's only the phone which would need to use wifi...

Re:Rube-goldberg (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590301)

I'm guessing because not all desktops have bluetooth capability.

no no no. it's just MUCH MUCH MUCH easier to code an app to do it over the wifi than to build an app for android(and accompanying app for desktop) that would make it act as a proper bluetooth mouse, bluetooth gamepad and as a bluetooth keyboard.

Re:Rube-goldberg (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591289)

You can buy a bluetooth dongle about the size of a dime at WalMart for $20 and it will work with any OS. With kubuntu you don't even have to install any software for it to work. Not all desktops have wifi, and a router is a little more expensive.

Re:Rube-goldberg (1)

History's Coming To (1059484) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581225)

Bluetooth is short range, so you'll be within reach of the real keyboard and mouse 99% of the time.

Re:Rube-goldberg (1)

Locutus (9039) | more than 2 years ago | (#40582815)

if it had them. Did you see the video and notice the solution shown did not remote the display and therefore required the user be close enough to see the computer display?

It could be handy for managing things like kiosks, picture frames, etc where you have a little GNU/Linux box driving a display without touch, kbd or mouse.

Getting it to work over Bluetooth shouldn't be too difficult for those wanting to do that instead of wifi or ethernet.

LoB

Re:Rube-goldberg (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590311)

Bluetooth is short range, so you'll be within reach of the real keyboard and mouse 99% of the time.

same room is usually enough.

it's just a lot more straightforward to do it over wifi(easier to find resources on how to do it).

Re:Rube-goldberg (2)

paulatz (744216) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581587)

There is one Android app [google.com] which makes your phone work as a HID over bluetooth, both as mouse and keyboard. However it needs the phone to be rooted in order to work, and I found it to be quite unstable, and severly unpolished.

But it works.

First! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580473)

Woo hoo!

EAT MOAR LARD! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580475)

Fatass, lardass, pig, glutton, beached whale, blubberbutt, ;disgusting fatbody! LOSE WEIGHT FATTIE!

Seriously fuck you! There's people starving. Really fuck you fatty, there's people going hungry while you gorge on pork rinds! Fuck you fatty, get your gigantic ass the fuck out of my way! Dammit fuck you lard-ass, they shouldn't make Spandex in those sizes!

Congratulations (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580497)

You've just discovered something that many of us have been able to with Android and Windows for years.

Re:Congratulations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580575)

Apparently, the more complicated you can make things, the more geek cred you get.

Congratulations-Geek currency. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580639)

Apparently, the more complicated you can make things, the more geek cred you get.

That's why getting a date (with a woman) scores so high.

Re:Congratulations-Geek currency. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581181)

Only if you can make things as complicated as possible.
But yeah, geeks tend to do that anyway.

Re:Congratulations (2)

Anonymous Freak (16973) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580665)

Yup, I've used similar on my phone (and before that, my Palm device,) to control my HTPC for a decade now.

While it's nice to have something truly built-in on both sides, rather than my current solution, a kb/mouse VNC client on the phone and a VNC server on the HTPC, it's still rather unnecessary to make a big deal.

Re:Congratulations (1)

pinkushun (1467193) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581283)

Its less about making a big deal, and more about sharing cool news with others. I use /. for this as I dislike popup-driven buzzword riddled news sites like zdnet

Re:Congratulations (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581357)

Yes, but this isn't really that cool. Logitech had an app out for years that does a lot of the features for Mac and Windoes. I think I saw Linux code for Linux. The article makes it sound like new technology.

Re:Congratulations (1)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | more than 2 years ago | (#40587929)

This comment by AC is mis modded as flamebait. I've used my phone to control my loungeroom Linux box for ages. This story isn't news at all.

Old trick... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580505)

I used to use my resistive touch screen winmo device as a mouse literally 10 years ago. Nothing like zero haptic feedback for a controller.

Backward progress... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580543)

This is the kind of backward progress that is touted as the all-new cool thing... Sorry iOS/Android you both suck! Dumb feature phones from 2006 had bluetooth tethering, bluetooth file exchange, bluetooth mouse input, audio streaming... ALL WITHOUT carrier intervention, some special rom, jail-breaking or the need to install any special app.

Thanks for destroying bluetooth.

CAPTCHA: grapes... sour!

Re:Backward progress... (5, Insightful)

TuringCheck (1989202) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581025)

All my recent phones and tables (Nokia, Apple, Samsung) have Bluetooth, WiFi, mobile data. Only one of my computers (a laptop whose LCD died some years ago) had Blutooth on-board.

There's also the very complex way of understanding and negotiating Bluetooth profiles. Each and every feature that is defined over Bluetooth has multiple variations and quirks and can (and do) fail in mysterious ways and are pretty hard to debug. Not to mention that some of them need specific support in the hardware.

OTOH WiFi and IP networks in general just move packets. And they're pretty standard and interoperable.

The spy who steered me. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580587)

Miniand demonstrates (video) using an Android phone as a keyboard, mouse, and gamepad over Wi-Fi to the device.

And James Bond did it better with a car.

Geek points for the unique interface solution (1, Offtopic)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580653)

But then we have to take away geek cred for using a Linux box at run level 5.

However if you answer the question "emacs or vim?" correctly, you can earn those points pack. Please note, though, that a response of "xemacs" will result in further penalties.

Re:Geek points for the unique interface solution (1)

GNious (953874) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580703)

Kate

Re:Geek points for the unique interface solution (1)

repvik (96666) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581261)

The correct answer is "vi".

Re:Geek points for the unique interface solution (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581803)

no, vim. Sure in the old days vi was guaranteed and vim wasn't, especially on the more obscure 'nixes. And yes, maybe using vi instead of vim was more important when 'nix boxes had 8MB of RAM or less and when every speck of HD space mattered. But for modern Linux, you can almost guarantee vim, unless the user actually went to the trouble of uninstalling it.

In fact, on Fedora, vi is provided by the vim-minimal package.

Re:Geek points for the unique interface solution (1)

shakezula (842399) | more than 2 years ago | (#40582203)

Are you sure? I thought the correct answer was "ed."

NSA Bobble-headed Fleshlight (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580683)

John the Ripper now able to crack office files and use GPUs

4 July 2012, 12:38

http://h-online.com/-1631901 [h-online.com]

"Version 1.7.9-jumbo-6 of the John the Ripper password cracker sees significant format support enhancements. The open source tool is now able to crack password-protected office documents (Office 2007/2010 and OpenDocument) and Firefox, Thunderbird and SeaMonkey master passwords, as well as WPA-PSK keys and Mac OS X keychains. It can also request to use GPUs via CUDA and OpenCL. The suffix "jumbo" appears to be intended literally â" more than 40,000 lines of code have been added in the six months since the previous release.

Developer Solar Designer told The H's associates at heise Security that, in developing GPU support, the focus has been on modern functions which can be slow to calculate, such as WPA-PSK and Unix password hashes. For some functions, such as Ubuntu's standard hash function (sha512crypt) and the time-consuming bcrypt, there were, according to the developers, no crackers with GPU support until now, "because others were unhappy about releasing a tool with 'non-impressive' speed numbers, even if this is desirable in practice".

In the case of sha512crypt, this means that the GPU on a GeForce GTX 570 graphics card can generate around 11,000 hashes per second â" still more than five times faster than on a computer with eight CPU cores. By comparison, for SHA1 hashes, with GPU support this figure would normally be in the millions. For bcrypt, a graphics card just beats an eight-core system by a hair's breadth â" in both cases the maximum figure is around 5,000 hashes. The inability of GPUs to realise speed gains with bcrypt is due to the algorithm's design, which is very memory intensive. According to Solar Designer, the developers were primarily concerned with finding out just how slow the bcrypt implementation would be."

- http://www.openwall.com/lists/john-users/2012/06/29/1 [openwall.com]
- http://www.openwall.com/john/ [openwall.com]
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument [wikipedia.org]
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bcrypt [wikipedia.org]
- http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/vsygc/john_the_ripper_179jumbo6_adds_gpu_support/ [reddit.com]
- http://www.h-online.com/news/item/Cracking-DES-faster-with-John-the-Ripper-1273585.html [h-online.com]
* http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/John-the-Ripper-now-able-to-crack-office-files-and-use-GPUs-1631901.html [h-online.com]

crve@h-online.com
Copyright © 2012 Heise Media UK Ltd.

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Unauthorized disclosures of secrets are essential for democracy.

In response to Wikileaks background inquiries Cryptome offers that there are hundreds of online and offline sources of sensitive information security breaches which preceded Wikileaks beginning about 120 years ago. This outline traces the conflict between technological capabilities for sensitive information breaches and control by law enforcement when technical countermeasures are insufficient -- a few examples among many others worldwide:

http://cryptome.org/0002/siss.htm [cryptome.org]
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Feds Look to Fight Leaks With âFog of Disinformationâ(TM)

http://cryptogon.com/?p=30257 [cryptogon.com]

July 4th, 2012

Via: Danger Room:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/fog-computing/all/ [wired.com]

Pentagon-funded researchers have come up with a new plan for busting leakers: Spot them by how they search, and then entice the secret-spillers with decoy documents that will give them away.

Computer scientists call it it âoeFog Computingâ â" a play on todayâ(TM)s cloud computing craze. And in a recent paper for Darpa, the Pentagonâ(TM)s premiere research arm, researchers say theyâ(TM)ve built âoea prototype for automatically generating and distributing believable misinformation ⦠and then tracking access and attempted misuse of it. We call this âdisinformation technology.â(TM)â
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http://cryptogon.com/?p=30266 [cryptogon.com]

July 5th, 2012

Via: Electronic Frontier Foundation:

https://www.eff.org/press/releases/three-nsa-whistleblowers-back-effs-lawsuit-over-governments-massive-spying-program [eff.org]

"San Francisco â" Three whistleblowers â" all former employees of the National Security Agency (NSA) â" have come forward to give evidence in the Electronic Frontier Foundationâ(TM)s (EFFâ(TM)s) lawsuit against the governmentâ(TM)s illegal mass surveillance program, Jewel v. NSA.

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The three former NSA employees with declarations in EFFâ(TM)s brief are William E. Binney, Thomas A. Drake, and J. Kirk Wiebe. All were targets of a federal investigation into leaks to the New York Times that sparked the initial news coverage about the warrantless wiretapping program. Binney and Wiebe were formally cleared of charges and Drake had those charges against him dropped."
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Swarms of Maple Seed Drones (Lockheed Martin)

July 6th, 2012

http://cryptogon.com/?p=30277 [cryptogon.com]

Via: Talking Points Memo:

http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/maple-seed-drones-will-swarm-the-future.php [talkingpointsmemo.com]

Imagine a cheap, tiny, hovering aerial drone capable of being launched with the flick of a personâ(TM)s wrist and able to provide manipulable 360-degree surveillance views.

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âoeThink about dropping a thousand of these out of an aircraft,â said Bill Borgia, head of Lockheed Martinâ(TM)s Intelligent Robotics Lab, in a phone interview with TPM, âoeThink about the wide area over which one collect imagery. Instead of sending one or two expensive, highly valuable aircraft like we do today, you could send thousands of these inexpensive aircraft, and they are almost expendable.â

- IMAGE: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/assets_c/2012/07/samarai-drone-lockheed-martin-cropped-proto-custom_28.jpg [talkingpointsmemo.com]

"In June, Lockheed Martin released a video demo of the droneâ(TM)s capabilities, and it is clearly impressive, launched by hand and piloted using a tablet computer, which also displays the droneâ(TM)s live surveillance feed."
- VIDEO DEMO: http://youtu.be/n_q_DD_4LNg [youtu.be]

Amazing (4, Insightful)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580685)

using the latest in technology to emulate a handful of switches and a simple microcontroller, or a pair of rotary encoders and a simple micro, or some switches and a shift register

Today, we have overcome all limits!

sorry whats the point other than gee whiz factor? Its 20(fuckin)12, with a trip to radio shack a child could whip up a fart chair to signal keyboard input to any OS they choose for under 40 bucks.

Re:Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581129)

Because we don't carry all those things in our pockets everyday?

Re:Amazing (1)

ciaran.mchale (1018214) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581185)

sorry whats the point other than gee whiz factor?

I would have thought that was obvious: it's the possibility of having a Beowulf cluster of keyboards.

Re:Amazing (1)

fatphil (181876) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581215)

Here's a first step - a Beowolf cluster of keys:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Chinese_typewriter.jpg

Re:Amazing (3, Informative)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581421)

with a trip to radio shack a child could whip up a fart chair to signal keyboard input to any OS they choose for under 40 bucks.

I take it you haven't been to Radio Shack lately. The big shelf of resistors, capacitors, diodes, transistors and such? Gone, along with any employees that even remember it existed.

I don't think they even have radios anymore. Just overpriced cables and cell phones.

Re:Amazing (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#40583303)

the ones near me still have a selection of basic passives, along with propeller boards and 2 arduinos + shields, and I was just there last week.

Re:Amazing (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 2 years ago | (#40584511)

Yours is quite rare, i could barely get a m-m 1/8 phono cable the other day there. Idiots tried to sell me a cell phone charger cable. "oh, audio...did you mean bluetooth.. " . *sigh* After i drew it out 'oh, we have a bin back there of old stuff'.

R/S was always overpriced but at least they were a last minute option if you needed sometime NOW and the real store was closed.

And don't get me started about them dropping the old radios and such, which were damned good.

Re:Amazing (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 2 years ago | (#40584609)

The radio shacks (all 3 within 5 minutes of driving) all carry a full set of general use components as well as Arduino and PIC microcontrollers and a shitload of basic sensors now.

http://www.radioshack.com/category/index.jsp?categoryId=2032230 [radioshack.com]

Between the 3 stores in my area I can find basically EVERYTHING they sell online with the exception of a damn strobe transformer that they don't seem to carry anymore ... ironic considering they sell the strobe tube in the component racks.

Re:Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591431)

They went in phases:

80s: CB Radio
90s: Windows PC's
2000s: Cell Phones
2010s: Radio Shack is cool again.

Why spend money? (1)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581423)

sorry whats the point other than gee whiz factor? Its 20(fuckin)12, with a trip to radio shack a child could whip up a fart chair to signal keyboard input to any OS they choose for under 40 bucks.

Why spend $40, when you can just use the general purpose computer with multiple input devices already sitting in your pocket?

Re:Why spend money? (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 2 years ago | (#40584845)

The problem with your statement is this retarded notion that your phone is a general purpose computer.

You may be able to use it as if it is one, but it isn't. You'll do yourself a world of good if you stop trying to act like it is.

Re:Why spend money? (1)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 2 years ago | (#40589785)

The problem with your statement is this retarded notion that your phone is a general purpose computer.

I can attach a keyboard, full monitor & mouse to my android phone & use it to do pretty much whatever the fuck I like. I can run a full-blown-browser, ssh server, apache, transcode videos, anything in the entire debian software stack (via chroot).

So, explain to me, exactly why the fuck my phone is not a general purpose computer? Frankly, I think you'll find the only thing that is retarded around here is your comment.

Re:Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581667)

I think it's cool. I wouldn't know how to do this, or how to program fart chairs as keyboards.

Re:Amazing (1)

pjt33 (739471) | more than 2 years ago | (#40583431)

I've thought for a while that it might make sense to use an Android phone as a HID for a Raspberry Pi for presentations through a projector. My phone doesn't output to a projector and the bulk of a keyboard is a portability problem for the RPi, but phone and RPi together take up less than half the space of a netbook.

Re:Amazing (1)

Locutus (9039) | more than 2 years ago | (#40584163)

it has implications for using small devices like the one demo'ed without a kbd and mouse. Things like a dynamic picture frame, your own media center console or even a form of kiosk and not need to put a touch interface on it.

Just because it looks like a PC you know and love, it does not mean it can only be that way.

LoB

Open source alternative (4, Informative)

ancienthart (924862) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580699)

Premotedroid does this for (android) mouse and keyboard already. It's open source, works using bluetooth or wifi, and on any computer with java.

Re:Open source alternative (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580775)

Thanks. It's nice seeing the readers are smart at least. The editors should learn from you.

Re:Open source alternative (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581011)

on any computer with java

Fail.

Re:Open source alternative (1)

subreality (157447) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581223)

on any computer with java

Fail.

No. Compared to the OP which is a closed-source, native-binary-only solution: Win.

Re:Open source alternative (1)

ArmchairGeneral (1244800) | more than 2 years ago | (#40584623)

I had looked for something exactly like this sometime ago and I had considered writing my own. It needs more documentation, but it works nicely. Thank you for pointing out this app.

Sounds ideal for a Raspberry Pi (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580759)

If you want a Pi media/mame server on your tv without the kbd/mouse hanging off it. Tempting

Re:Sounds ideal for a Raspberry Pi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580923)

For a Raspberry Pi, this is not the solution, the Java dependency means it will be a massive memory hog.
The proposed VNC solutions may be a better fit.

Windows already has this, goto Google Play (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580771)

Why is this a story? So what if LINUX has this, it's not new. Slashdolt strikes again.

any VNC client will do (2)

khipu (2511498) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580795)

Any Android VNC client will do for remotely controlling Linux, OSX, or Windows from an Android phone; you don't need anything more complicated than that.

Re:any VNC client will do (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581015)

VNC is a remote display. This is using a phone for input. Think touchpad. In fact, you could even use this for drawing with.

Re:any VNC client will do (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581147)

VNC is a remote display and control. A VNC client on a touchscreen phone can literally do each of the things you described.

Re:any VNC client will do (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40582265)

Are you serious? Does this really need to be explained any more? Go look up x2vnc or win2vnc is display-less operation seems too hard to grasp.

Re:any VNC client will do (1)

khipu (2511498) | more than 2 years ago | (#40583689)

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Re:any VNC client will do (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590409)

VNC is a remote display AND control.

fixed that for you. point is that this article has no point, except to work as an advertisement for the project.

Re:any VNC client will do (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 2 years ago | (#40594155)

Can you run it without a display?

New feature for Android (1, Funny)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 2 years ago | (#40580839)

Okay, its not new for Android, its just that this is another one of timothy's 'I live in a box and have no fucking clue what any of the topics on this site are about ... and I'm dumber than dirt' approvals.

Why did my preference to not see timothy and kdawson go away?

Seriously, you guys are freaking worthless

My lg tv already does this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40580885)

It also has a built in plex client , browser, 3d etc

You call this a nice application? (1)

aglider (2435074) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581031)

Using wifi instead of bluetooth?
The HID part of the BT stack is already in place in your Linux/Windows/OSX/Whatever system. So, no need for extra software. Maybe a USD 10.- USB dongle.
Then you would use the touch screen of your phone as a trackpad. Or, if possible, the rear camera to understand how the phone is being moved on the desk.
I would call this a nice Android application, not the pesky one shown in the above article!

Re:You call this a nice application? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40584861)

Sadly, in the process of 'modernizing', we've gone from elegant platform agnostic solutions to messy platform specific hacks. And people gobble this up as progress...

Why not act as an USB device? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581045)

What I want is connect an Android phone via USB to any PC (not necessarily a Linux box), have the Android behave like a touchpad, keyboard, camera, whatever. All using just the existing USB device profiles. So no client special software required on the PC. This would even give me a handy USB keyboard that works during booting! (I have a PC with only bluetooth keyboard, mouse, and these are typically dead until the OS is loaded).

As these device profiles are the same for bluetooth, it should also be easy to make an Android act as bluetooth touchpad, keyboard, etc.

N900 (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581099)

N900 has been able to do this for years. I didn't even realise this was something other phones *couldn't* do!

Re:N900 (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581827)

And doesn't the N900 have an actual X server so you can use proper X11 forwarding over SSH as the goddess intended?

How about pre programming with whats typed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581121)

Imagine it typing up a batch file and then executing it, within only a second or two of typing the code having executed notepad with keys. Very easy to hack any computer that isn't locked.

Slow news day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581235)

Its a slow news day when this is a head line the n810 has been able to be a bluetooth mouse for years and there have been plenty of android apps that can do it as well

This is new? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581245)

I use a VNC control app called "Hippo Lite" on my original iPhone to act as a remote trackpad for an old PowerBook G4 I have connected to my TV. That way, I don't have to get up to change what video I'm streaming over the Internet to my TV, and I didn't have to buy a fancy wireless keyboard. It runs over Wifi and the whole set up was free.

progress (3, Funny)

hackstraw (262471) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581259)

Taking the best thing from a normal computer and using the worst things about android and what do you get???? hopefully they are not using swipe and having it crash all the time.

gamepad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581329)

haha, "gamepad." no-one games on linux, silly.

Distinction between article here and there (1)

mitzampt (2002856) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581347)

Actually this stuff is turning an android device into a keyboard/touchpad FOR ANOTHER ANDROID device... Also, for Linux and Windows. This is the client/server stuff we've seen since ever, it doesn't involve using native support for USB or Bluetooth peripherals, which would be the real achievement. It''s still cool because it works over the internet, but that's about it.

So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581395)

There are apps specifically for this. In a pinch, I've used my iconia tab as a drawing tablet. Big fucking whoopty do.

Use BlueputDroid instead (1)

Praetor.Zero (1048272) | more than 2 years ago | (#40581535)

I've been using using BluputDroid [google.com] for a while. It acts as a bluetooth HID device. It's only requirements are that the phone be rooted, and the desktop have a bluetooth adapter and the correct stack installed. It doesn't require a questionable third-party server to be installed and running on your desktop. I've used it on my two HTPCs without issue. Considering you can get a small bluetooth dongle off of eBay for $5, it's well worth the price of admission.

Already been done (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581627)

I used a NES controller app for Android that connects over WIFI or USB-ethernet, last year. It sucked because there was no tactile feel like a real controller.

Re:Already been done (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581633)

I forgot to mention, the app uses ppjoydev on the client PC side.

Why not HID? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581631)

More interesting would be a way to make an Android expose standard HID device profiles via Bluetooth and USB. And while at it you could also expose still camera, video (UVC), GPS devices. What's the big problem?

Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40581679)

Let's make Linux as insecure as Android.

The way of the future (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40582063)

If you ask me, the naysayers thus far are ignoring the future of embedded Linux-based devices and the coming "internet of things". I myself have been looking for a platform-agnostic solution to a network front-end. Websockets seem to be the current bleeding edge solution. What you'd need is a daemon that routes the system console to a websockets interface and then have a simple console HTML5 page.

droidmote (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40582555)

This tool is not a normal remote control. Droidmote simulate also a touch screen. It use indirect touch to simulate touch actions on device that not have touch screen. You can use apps and games that support only touch actions also in devices that not have touch screen. Look at xda to understand well.

BluePutDroid? (1)

wiresquire (457486) | more than 2 years ago | (#40586649)

BluePutDroid [google.com] will do the same thing. It works by turning your android device into a bluetooth Human Inteface Device (HID). So, it will work with pretty much any device that has bluetooth. Don't have bluetooth? I'm sure you can find a cheap bluetooth USB dongle.

I use it for my PS3. It also has mouse control and has a screen for the PS buttons. I can't handle the 'typing' using PS3 gamepads...

I guess I could use it as a keyboard for my laptop which has bluetooth, but i dunno why, they already built one in!

I'd rather (1)

okmijnuhb (575581) | more than 2 years ago | (#40587839)

I'd rather use a full size keyboard/mouse to control my blackberry or iPhone.

umm... its 2012 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591669)

My no tech house mate has this hocked up to windows... this is seriously outdated news

USB KB/Mouse? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40598769)

I would like to find a way to plug my Android device into a computer and have these same abilities. This would be useful since an office computer will not let you install drivers for a BTdongle, but will let you plug a USB mouse or keyboard in and use it with no problem.

Have been looking into possibilities of how to do this for a person with a disability to gain access to university computers.

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