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Chinese Company Sues Apple Over Siri

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the ours-first dept.

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judgecorp writes "Shanghai Zhizhen Network Technology is suing Apple in China, claiming Siri infringes its voice technology patent. Zhizhen claims to have 100 million users for its Xiao iRobot software which responds to voice questions and commands. From the article: 'The move came only days after Apple Inc paid $60 million to Proview Technology (Shenzhen) to end a protracted legal dispute over the iPad trademark in China. Zhizhen's patent covers "a type of instant messaging chat robot system", according to the database of the country's State Intellectual Property Office. It was filed on Aug 13, 2004, and got approved on Feb 15, 2006. '"

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TOM CRUISE IS IN ON THIS !! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40590793)

He's loaded and cocked !!

CofS is gonna git you sucka !!

Huh? (5, Funny)

MonsterTrimble (1205334) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590831)

Wait, a CHINESE company is worried about intellectual property infringement? Did I miss the memo?

Re:Huh? (3, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590855)

They have their cake, now they'd just like to eat it.

Re:Huh? (4, Insightful)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590975)

but an hour later, they'll just want even more!

seriously, though, this could not have happened to a 'better' company. hope apple has a major headache from this. I'd buy a ticket to the event if one is ever sold.

yes, the more evil you are, the more we cheer as you get burned by the very weapons you use to attack others.

Re:Huh? (0, Troll)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592245)

I agree completely. I hope this goes very badly for Apple. They couldn't deserve it more.

Re:Huh? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592301)

but an hour later, they'll just want even more!

seriously, though, this could not have happened to a 'better' company. hope apple has a major headache from this. I'd buy a ticket to the event if one is ever sold.

yes, the more evil you are, the more we cheer as you get burned by the very weapons you use to attack others.

Karma is as karma does. Apple have indeed earned this, but don't be too surprised if it works out in Apple's favor. Voice recognition and commands could easily have considerable Prior Art to lean on, though winning any suit in this case could dilute Apple's patent portfolio, too.

I have the following patents:Answers: #8,704,338,654
Answers which require thought: #8,704,338,655
Answers which are correct: #8,704,338,656
Dumb silence: #8,704,338,657

Re:Huh? (-1, Offtopic)

the_B0fh (208483) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592451)

So how do you feel about Google's abuse of FRAND patents and trying to get the XBox 360 banned?

Re:Huh? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40592559)

It's called MAD. The Patent Cold War went hot; Microsoft started extorting license fees from Android partners so one of those partners sued Microsoft over something unrelated, and Google later bought that company.

Re:Huh? (2)

ThatsMyNick (2004126) | more than 2 years ago | (#40593063)

Have you ever heard of retaliation or Tit-for-tat (it is a very good game tactic actually).

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40590983)

Until they get sued by whomever owns the rights to Asimov's "I, Robot".

Re:Huh? (1)

evilRhino (638506) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591503)

This just in: there are millions of people in China, each with their own hope, dreams, and understanding of intellectual property rights.

Re:Huh? (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591803)

This just in: there are billions of people in China, each with their own hope, dreams, and understanding of intellectual property rights.

FTFY

Re:Huh? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40592009)

CIA world factbook says 1.3 billion. That's not "billions".

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40592217)

This just in: there are millions of people in China, each with their own hope, dreams, and understanding of intellectual property rights.

Yes, but as we all know, if their understanding of it is at all different from ours, then each and every single one of those people are wrong, wrong, WRONG.

Re:Huh? (5, Informative)

Dyinobal (1427207) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590863)

Actually I think china is pretty aggressive in protecting its industries from foreign patent infringement it just isn't so aggressive in protecting western countries from infringement.

Re:Huh? (3, Interesting)

MonsterTrimble (1205334) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590931)

That is probably true - I deal with a number of manufacturers from China on a daily basis and none of them are really concerned about cloning a competitor's product for us if we desire it. I just found it funny is all.

Re:Huh? (3, Informative)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591353)

More to the point. The company in question many times manufactures product for said US competitor and simply continue to manufacture them off hours sans the logo.

Re:Huh? (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591481)

this may be too obvious, but; why not force them to work 7x24? that way there *is* no time-off and no way to make manufacturing runs sans logo. keep the factory going 24x7 and rotate even more workers thru, giving them normal working shifts, each. reduced hours, even; just keep the factory always making your goods and shipping its output directly to you via your carriers. when you are done, come pick up the tools and destroy them or bring them back with you.

too obvious?

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591677)

You do not own the factory, you just paced an order, nor are the tools specific enough to your product for this to be feasible, if they where then you would be loosing economies of scale.

Re:Huh? (1)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592693)

This pretty much answers your question. If you want to control the manufacturing then buy your own facility. Barring that you simply tell them how many widgets you want and when they complete that many widgets they can do whatever they want. When company apl, cpq, xyz, etc. want to sell a widget they many times will just send a spec sheet to Foxconn, [foxconn.com] Quanta, [quantatw.com] Jabil, [jabil.com] etc. and the manufacturing co. will design the widget to meet those specs. Kinda hard to tell a company the size and scope of Quanta how to do their job. You'd have to be their majority widget customer and even Apple doesn't have that kind of clout.

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591685)

Won't help.

I have heard (admittedly anecdotal) stories, in the case of autos, of them literally building a factory to produce the "sans-logo" cars right next door to where the "legitimate" cars were made. While I'm not sure they'd build a separate factories for any old widget, I'm pretty sure they'd simply continue their operation of making the sans-logo products on the side even if you, as their client, demanded "24x7."

After all, how are you going to verify they're always acting in your best interest? They'll certainly put on a show when you send someone to inspect the operations once every few months, but it's back to business as normal the moment they're back on the plane. And even if you find out they're violating your contract and pirating your IP, good luck trying to sue them.

Re:Huh? (1)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592293)

Exactly. If your product is selling so well that you can actually keep a factory running 24x7 to fill the demand, then why wouldn't they build another factory, logo-less product or no?

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40592025)

This may be too obvious, but; why not force them to work 7x24?

Because making them work 7 hours per day, 24 days per week is impossible.

Re:Huh? (1)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592317)

If your orders are large enough, it's certainly feasible. They're obviously not going to have the same workers working 24x7, that's why we invented "shifts" long ago. But the factory itself can certainly be kept running 24x7, in fact it's a better use of resources to do so rather than letting it sit idle for part of the day.

Re:Huh? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591393)

You could say the same about the US. Just ask Samsung.

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591605)

Mod parent up +insightful

Re:Huh? (4, Interesting)

SimonTheSoundMan (1012395) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592089)

What you have to remember with China is it is not a corporation suing Apple but in effect the government suing Apple.

Companies in China belong to China – You can't trade in China, you trade with China. You can't go to a company wanting to trade, you have to deal with a government official asking you want to trade with China.

Most people who run these large companies rise through local and central governments, many becoming government officials. They have huge influence on all parts of China, think of it like a Masonic society – A magic handshake with the judge, you know the case will be favourable to you winning.

China Inc (1)

k(wi)r(kipedia) (2648849) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592381)

What you have to remember with China is it is not a corporation suing Apple but in effect the government suing Apple.

Remember how Japan used to be called Japan Inc? China Incorporated sounds more apt given the tigher integration between government and business, including the military [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Huh? (4, Informative)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592271)

Why should they be? The USA wasn't aggressive in protecting British IP holders from infringement back in the 17-1800s, in fact they didn't enforce that at all, and the USA made a bunch of money as a result.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Re:Huh? (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592535)

Actually I think china is pretty aggressive in protecting its industries from foreign patent infringement it just isn't so aggressive in protecting western countries from infringement.

Actually, most countries are like that. I'm fairly certain it's the same in the US as well. Infringe on a foreign country's copyright/patent/whatever? No big deal. But infringe on OUR copyright/patent/whatever? Very Big Deal(tm).

Plenty of pirated video suppliers operating commercially in the US that aren't prosecuted because the MPAA/RIAA/etc have nothing nor do they care about enforcing other's copyrights (they're only about THEIR copyrights, after all).

This happens even WITH all the international agreements.

Re:Huh? (1)

kyrio (1091003) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590897)

You want to do business on my land? Pay up.

Re:Huh? (5, Insightful)

s.petry (762400) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591373)

HEY, LOOK AT THOSE CHINESE BUSINESSES AND LOOK HOW BAD THEY ARE! Meanwhile US companies hire illegal workers, sue everyone and everything, lie to regulators, blackmail anyone trying to prosecute them or investigate them, pay media to outright lie to US citizens, and steal from US citizens.

Until we clean up things at home why is anyone in the US talking about China? Wholly crap man, you do realize that banks are still foreclosing on houses where owners don't even have mortgages right? You do realize that things like Honeywell vs. Nest are still happening right? You do realize that Merck was found falsifying reports and documents to the FDA which caused millions of people to get sick and in some cases die just to make pharmaceutical companies lots of money right? Hell, the DOJ illegally sold guns to Drug cartels in Mexico and nobody even talks about it let alone has been prosecuted or punished.

Don't mistake what I say for saying China is magically better than the US. What I'm saying is that we are so fucked up right now we have no right to bitch about anyone else.

Re:Huh? (1)

poity (465672) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591663)

30% of Slashdotters are from outside the US, most of them from Europe. Europe isn't entirely free of problems, so does that mean they should quit criticizing the US? I think not, but it seems you think they should. Am I understanding you correctly?

Re:Huh? (1)

k(wi)r(kipedia) (2648849) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591951)

30% of Slashdotters are from outside the US, most of them from Europe.

Is this confirmed statistics?

Re:Huh? (1)

poity (465672) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592541)

http://slashdot.org/poll/549/where-do-you-live [slashdot.org]
If we accept that Jar Jar is equally despised around the world. This is even allowing for the error of leaving out Africa, which could account for even more non-US slashdot readers.

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40592863)

also, it doesn't separate US from Mexico and Canada in "North America", which means non-US slashdot readership could be closer to 40%

Re:Huh? (2)

s.petry (762400) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592045)

You understand very correctly, but I guess it could be subjective. IP law in the US is horrid, unfair, costs society and our economy tremendous amounts of money. The EU has had a much better track record with IP, so I guess you could complain about the US's IP policies and laws. With that said, if your Government was full of corruption, you were fighting 2 legal wars and several illegal wars, News was reclassified as "Entertainment" (Thank you for that Supreme Court ruling by the way), and I could go on and on here but will save you the trouble... What does bitching about other people get you other than a distraction from your own problems? We have passed the point long ago where as citizens we should be worried about what other Governments are doing, at least in the US, and need to be worried about cleaning up our own act.

All citizens of every Government should consider that same thought.

Re:Huh? (1)

Dodgy G33za (1669772) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592119)

Actually I don't think you do understand correctly. The poster is saying that the US has lots of things to be ashamed of so those in the US shouldn't be denigrating Chinese business practice as it comes across as hypocritical.

Just for the record, from the comments I have read a fair amount of slashdotters are Aussie. But that may just be because they come out of the woodwork when you talk about our great southern land in some way.

Re:Huh? (1)

poity (465672) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592833)

Indeed the US does have many things to be ashamed of, but should people like you and me, citizens who are not intimately involved with political or corporate organizations, limit the scope of our criticism just because we are within the same borders as corrupt entities? For instance would you tell a Frenchman to shut up about US involvement in Iraq because of France's involvement in Libya?

Re:Huh? (1)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592371)

I think Europeans have a lot more leeway to criticize Americans than Americans have room to criticize Chinese.

Europe is having some problems, true, but they seem to mainly be due to trying to have a monetary union without having a full political union, which sounded like a good idea at first but doesn't seem to be working out too well in practice unfortunately because different countries want to manage their money differently (some are very frugal, some like to spend it like a drunken sailor and then make up for it with inflation). I just don't see the problems with blatant corruption in Europe like what we see in the USA; in Europe the politicians seem to actually be trying to do the right thing for their people, but of course butt heads with the politicians of other nations inside the union that want to run things differently. In the US, the politicians are overtly corrupt and don't bother to do anything for the people except for a small amount of pandering to their "base" to keep them going to the polls to reelect them so they can serve their corporate masters another term.

Re:Huh? (1)

poity (465672) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592773)

What about blatant corruption in Eastern EU nations? Have Western EU nations done enough to try to solve this problem? What about the corruption in the energy politics of Europe, in its dealings with Gazprom, African dictatorships, and the Middle East?

Do you think Europeans should shut up about the US when these problems still exist? I think we, as people who are outsiders to these organizations and corporations, should be free to criticize them all. However, it seems many in this thread think that just because someone lives within the same borders as a corrupt politician or corporation, that person needs shut up about corruption any place else.

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591767)

I personally feel ZERO sympathy for Apple. They want to take advantage of cheap foreign labor to make their iDevices, but when they want to sell in the Chinese market, they find that they have to play by China's rules. That includes dealing with the fact that China will take next to no action protecting Apple's IP but will happily enforce the IP of Chinese companies.

Re:Huh? (1)

Haawkeye (2680377) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592369)

I only trust companies to try to make money. The idea of a moral operating company is absurd. They are only accountable to shareholders. I live in Canada where we have been tightening the regulations on the banking industry. I trust my government (to an extent) because I have a vote. They just changed the mortgage regulations so they can't offer mortgages past 25 years. That makes sense to me. I am not surprised by drug companies providing false information. I hope the FDA can punish the crap out of them so that their shareholders get upset. That is the only way you will keep them honest. We have to stop thinking of business as heroes and crap. They are just out to make money and don't care about the average joe.

Re:Huh? (2)

Jerom (96338) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590901)

The Chinese sharks smelled bl$$d with the whole "ipad" name debacle...

Re:Huh? (-1, Redundant)

ClaraBow (212734) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590911)

Every time I see another patent dispute article, I get a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach! This is so reticules. The Chinese have learned well from the Americans -- the only winners are lawyers and more lawyers! Damn, who is going to step in and stop the madness!

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591071)

This is a small handbag? (reticules)

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591581)

Either that, or the Chinese companies have Apple in their sights.

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591647)

Reticules is ridiculous. Doubly so.

You know, I think all this is a good thing, after all. We spent a lot of energy and talking to try to convince US people that their patent system is f* up.

But I guess being repeatedly sued and losing lots of money might make them see the light. Now, if we only knew a way to kill that "useful" imperial unit system...

Re:Huh? (2, Informative)

troon (724114) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591563)

Wow. You win the prize for the worst spelling of "ridiculous".

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591681)

Is your sig some sort of ROT-X encrypted phrase or an emacs command (probably something like 'move cursor down')?

Re:Huh? (1)

BronsCon (927697) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592633)

i dunno, but check out the frist 4 of the last 5 characters... SRSLY?

Re:Huh? (1)

Dodgy G33za (1669772) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592141)

Maybe he meant that he wanted to get sniper sights on them.

Re:Huh? (0, Flamebait)

Vintermann (400722) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591459)

Hey, when did concerns about hypocrisy ever stop an intellectual property litigant?

Apple reap what they sow plenty of themselves.

Re:Huh? (4, Insightful)

tsa (15680) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591815)

They're like slashdotters: copying to their heart's delight but when their own copyright is abused they cry foul.

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591853)

They are just following Americas lead but shortening the steal ip period to get into the sue for ip money for nothing phase.

So, in China is it cheaper to do this manually? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40590871)

How does having 10,000 operators listening to incoming voice snippets and performing a google search compare to actual voice recognition and basic comprehension abilities implemented in software, as Siri does?

I expect the company is pissed because this bit of free software on all Apple phones (and similar on Google phones soon) pretty much eradicates their entire business model.

Re:So, in China is it cheaper to do this manually? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591053)

they also report people asking for stuff that is on beaned list

Re:So, in China is it cheaper to do this manually? (4, Funny)

RaceProUK (1137575) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592127)

Baked or green?

One Wonders... (2)

sycodon (149926) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590877)

...how whatever authority that is perpetuating software patents continues to ignore the mountain of empirical evidence showing such patents are a very bad idea.

Re:One Wonders... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40592295)

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Countersuit. (5, Funny)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | more than 2 years ago | (#40590887)

Zhizhen claims to have 100 million users for its Xiao iRobot software which responds to voice questions and commands.

Apple counter sues for the use of the letter i.

Re:Countersuit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40590963)

http://www.irobot.com/us/ may think differently (got the pun?)

The heck? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40590893)

Irobot software? Does it understand a chink saying "FIVE DOLLAH YOU MAY NOW" and it responds back "NO HAVE FIVE DOLLAH CHING CHONG GWOWN WON"

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BUT1!!!!11 LOL SOMAWHER3 IN TEH MIDST OF AL TAHT I HAARD THIS MASAEG IT IS NOT DA COLOR OF DA SKIN TAHT MAEKS A PERSON.IT!1!!1!!!1!11111 WTF IS WUT IS INSIED1!1!!!!1 LOL I WUD LIEK 2 SAY TAHT M3SAEG IS NOW IN TEH HEARTS AND H3ADS OF AL MAH F3LOW COUNTRYMEN BUT I KNOW IT IS NOT!1!111 OMG 2DAY I STIL HEAR TEH NME CALNG AND DA HAET AGANEST DIFERANT RAECS
AS!!!1!111 WTF I GRAW OLD3R I NOTIECD TEH WAY MAH MOTH3R AND FATHER INT3RACTED!1!!!! DAD WAS TEH HAAD OF TEH HOUS3” AND MOM WAS TEH “MOTH3R”111!11 OMG WTF LOL THEY CONSULT3D ON THNGS BUT DAD WAS TEH FINAL D3CISION MAEKR!!!! OMG I MUST ADMIT TAHT DAD WAS WIES AND OFT3N LISTAN3D VARY CLOS3 2 “MOM” BFORE MAKNG “HIS” DACISION TAHT OFTEN MIRORED HERS1111! OMG WTF LOL BUT IN MOMS MIND IT WAS “DADS” MONEY TAHT H3 3ARN3D AND BROUGHT HOM3 AND SH3 WAS ONLY DA CUS2DIAN OF IT!11111! LOL B/C H3R RELIGION 2LD HER TAHT WOMAN W3RE 2 B SUBS3RVEINT 2 MEN
AS!11111!! WTF LOL I ABSORBD THIS I ALSO NOTIECD DA “EQUAL RIGHTS MANDMENT” WHICH WAS WRIT3N 2 GIEV WOMEN 3QUAL RIGHTS UNDER DA LAW1!!111 WTF LOL FIRST PROPOSED IN 1923 PASED OUT OF CONGR3S IN 1972 IT IS STIL NOT AN MANDMENT 2 TEH UNIETD STAETS CONSTITUTION ALTHOUGH IT ONLY NEDS THRE MOR3 STAETS 2 RATIFY IT
IRONICALY!!111 OMG LOL DA COUNTRY THOUGHT OF BY ITS INHABITANTS AS “MOST FRE” AND “MOST EQUAL” SEMS 2 NED AN MANDMENT 2 GUARANTE AQUALITY 2 ABOUT HALF ITS POPULATION B/C THEY R WOMEN
211!11!1! LOL MOMS DYNG DAY I WAS NEV3R ABLA 2 CONVINCE HER TAHT SH3 WAS DADS AQUAL..BUT!11111!1111!!!111111!!1!1!! OMG I TREID
FOR!1111!1! U SE AS I GREW OLDER I NOTIECD SOMA THNGS ABOUT MYSALF
FIRST11!!111 OMG WTF LOL OF AL I WAS NOT A “SKIRT CHAESR”!!!!1!1 WTF LOL UNLIEK A LOT OF DA OTHAR MAN I DID NOT SIT AROUND LOKNG AT A WOMANS BODY WIT MAH 2NGU3 HANGNG OUT AND MAKNG CRUD3 REMARKS ABOUT HOW I WUD TRY 2 GET WOMEN IN2 BD1!!11 LOL MAH S3X DRIEV SEM3D 2 B VARY LOW OR NON-3XISTENT.OR11!!!!1!111!!1!!1 WTF SO I THOUGHT111!1!1 WTF IM SURA TAHT DA FEW WOMEN TAHT CME 2 KNOW ME IN MAH UNIEVRSITY Y3ARS (AND WHO WAR3 GOD FREINDS) WARE CURIOUS ABOUT MAH LAK OF “S3X DRIEV” COMPAERD 2 DA OTHER M3N THEY KNEW
L8R1!1111! OMG LOL ON (MUCH L8R AFT3R COLEGE) I NOTIECD TAHT WHIEL IT WAS NOT WOM3N TAHT CAUSED ME 2 STAER IT WAS MEN11!! OMG WTF LOL I BGAN 2 R3ALIEZ TAHT I WAS A HOMOSEXUAL
FOR!!11 WTF THOSE OF U WHO THINK TAHT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A “CHOIEC” LET M3 ASURE U TAHT U R SIMPLY WRONG11!11! WTF THEYRE IS NO CHOIEC111111!1 OMG LOL THEYRE IS NO DACISION TAHT I MAED CONSCIOUSLY OR SUB-CONSCIOUSLY ABOUT MAH S3XUALITY 2 MAEK MA THIS WAY!!11 WTF AND AS I BCME MOR3 R OF TEH ISUE I TREID “3XPARIEMNTS” WIT WOMEN 2 AT LEAST 2 SE IF DA CONDITION WAS AS I THOUGHT1!!! OMG LOL TEH “AXP3RIEMNTS” WARE VARY SUCASFUL.IN1!1!!!!!1!1!!!!!11 CONVINCNG M3 I WAS A HOMOSEXUAL
I11111! WTF BLEIVE SEXUALITY IS AT LEAST A TWO-DIEMNSIONAL ARAY WIT ONE AXIS BNG “S3X DRIEV” FROM “NON-3XIST3NT” 2 “MANIAC” AND DA OTHER AXIS BNG “S3XUAL OREINTATION” FROM “COMPL3TELY HOMOSEXUAL” 2 “COMPLETELY H3TEROSEXUAL”11!1!1!! WTF MOST (IF NOT AL) OF DA WORLD LIEVS WITHIN THOS3 TWO AXIS1!1!1!!1 WTF LOL IM “LOW-S3X-DRIEV/COMPL3TELY HOMOSAXUAL”
ALSO11!!! OMG LOL LET M3 SAY TAHT THEYRE IS A DIFERANCA BTWEN LOV3 AND SEXUAL LOVA1!!!!!! WTF LOL I BLEIVA IN DA “LAEYRS” OF LOV3 MOST EASILY DESCRIEBD BY
EROS – AROTIC LOV3
PHILOS – BROTHERLY LOV3
AGAEP – DIVIEN LOVE
FOR ALMOST AVERYONE I MET I 3VENTUALY FAL IN2 “PHILOS” WIT TH3M!1111 OMG THIS DOES NOT MEAN I WANT 2 HAEV S3X WIT TH3M BUT I DO 3NJOY A HUG OR SOMA OTH3R BODY CONTACT1!!!!! OMG WTF LOL IT IS NOT SEXUAL IT IS HUMAN
AL11!1 OMG LOL OF TEH WEB PICTURES OF M3 TYPICALY HAEV MA WIT MAH ARM AROUND A PERSONS SHUDERS OR WASET1111!! OMG LOL IM NOT R3ACHNG FOR THEYRE CROTCH OR OTHER “SEXUAL” PARTS111!1 I FEL NO LUST FOR THEM JUST A HUMAN Y1!11!! OMG LOL TEL US NOW
GOD?!!!?!! WTF LOL QUASTION
FOR1!111111 WTF LOL A LONG TIEM I WAS CAERFUL ABOUT WHO 2 T3L ABOUT MAH HOMOS3XUALITY FOR TWO REASONS
I DID NOT WANT MAH MOTHAR AND FATHER 2 FIND OUT
    I DID NOT WANT MAH SEXUALITY IN ANY WAY 2 HURT LINUX AND FRE MAH MOTHER AND FATHER WARE FUNDMENTALIST CHRISTIANS WHO 2K TEH BIBLE VERY LIETRALY!1!1!11! OMG LOL THAY BLEIVAD TAHT DA UNIEVRSE WAS ABOUT 600 YEARS OLD AND VERY DAFINIETLY DID NOT SUPORT TEH WORK OF CHARLAS DARWIN!!!!!! LOL I DID NOT REALIEZ THIS LITLE “FACT” UNTIL I WAS IN UNIEVRSITY AND I FOUND IT OD TAHT THEY HAD NOT SADE ANYTHNG 2 M3 ABOUT IT WH3N I WAS BRNGNG HOMA FOSILS OF SEA CR3ATUR3S TAHT HAD B3N DEAD FOR MILIONS OF YAARS!1!1 OMG WTF L8R THEY 2LD ME TAHT THAY WANTED ME 2 FORM MAH OWN OPINIONS ABOUT RELIGION AND 2 LEAD MAH OWN LIEF!!1!!!! WTF LOL IM GRAETFUL 2 THEM FOR THIS ATITUDE BUT I NU THEYRE WAS AT LEAST A MINOR DIFER3NC3 BTWEN D3AD SAA FOSILS AND THINKNG TAHT UR U SON IS GONG 2 BURN IN HAL FOR BNG A HOMOSEXUAL!1!!!!1 KNOWNG TAHT I HAD FALEED IN CONVINCNG MAH MOTHER TAHT SHE WAS DA AQUAL 2 MAH FATHER I PROBABLY WUD HAEV LITL3 SUCES IN THIS LAETST BIBLICAL 3ND3AVOR
AS1!!11111 WTF MOST OF U KNOW MAH MOTH3R AND FATH3R DEID LAST YAAR SO THIS ANOUNCEMANT WIL NOT AF3CT THEM
ON11!1! WTF TEH S3COND POINT I HAEV BAN EXTREM3LY LUKY IN MAH LIEF 2 HAEV GROWN UP IN TACHNOLOGICALY ADVANC3D SUROUNDNGS11!1111 WTF MOST OF DA PEOPLE IN MAH WORLD OF EL3CTRONICS AND COMPUTERS W3RE LIEK TEH MATHEMATICIANS OF ALAN TURNGS TIEM HIGHLY EDUCAETD AND NOT RILLY CARNG WHETH3R THERE COMPATRIOTS WERE HOMOSAXUAL OR NOT OR AT L3AST LOKNG BYOND TEH SEXUALITY AND SENG TEH RAST OF TEH PARSON
IN!!111 WTF FACT COMPUT3R SCEINCA WAS A HAEVN FOR HOMOSAXUALS TRANS-SAXUALS AND A LOT OF OTHER “SEXUALS” MOSTLY B/C TEH HIS2RY OF TEH SCEINC3 CAL3D FOR FARELY INTALIEGNT MODARN-THINKNG P3OPLE!111111 WTF MANY COMPUTER COMPANEIS W3RE DA FIRST 2 ANACT “DIEVRSITY” PROGRMS AND DA USANIX ORGANIZATION HAD A SP3CIAL INT3R3ST GROUP TAHT WAS MAED UP OF LGBT P3OPLA
TAHT!!1!11 LOL IS NOT 2 SAY TAHT AL COMPUT3R SCEINCE PAOPLE R HOMOSAXUAL OR 3VEN NON-HOMOPHOBIC BUT FOR DA MOST PART TEH CS COMUNITY AND COMPANEIS HAEV BEN MORE ACAPTNG AND ACOMODATNG THAN OTHERS
NEVERTHELAS11!1111 AS I WANT THROUGH LIEF I HAEV SOMETIEMS FOUND TAHT DA P3OPL3 TAHT SHUD B DA MOST UNDERSTANDNG AND ACEPTNG R NOT AND I DID NOT WANT THIS 2 RAFLECT UPON LINUX OR FOS IN ANY WAY
HOWEVAR1!!! S3VERAL THNGS HAEV RECENTLY URG3D ME 2 RACONSIEDR AND MAEK THIS TEH REALIZATION TAHT CLOSET3D HOMOSAXUALS ALOW OTHARS 2 THINK WE DO NOT EXIST OR EXIST IN F3WAR NUMBRS THAN WE DO OR W3 DO NOT AXIST IN THERE BAK YARD” AL OF WHICH ALOWS THEM 2 BLEIVE WA DO NOT 3XIST OR THINK OF US AS MONSTERS!1!! OMG IT IS A LOT HARDER 2 HAET LGBT PEOPL3 IN G3NERAL WHAN U HAEV A SON OR DAUGHTAR UNCLA OR AUNT NEXT DOR N3IGHBOR OR FREIND WHO IS TEH!!!1!! OMG AS3RTION OF SOMA HETAROSEXUAL PEOPLE TAHT W3 CAN NOT B ROLA MOD3LS FOR U P3OPLA TAHT SOMAHOW HOMOSEXUAL P3OPL3 HAEV NO REDEMNG QUALITEIS B/C OF OUR SAXUALITY AND WA CAN NOT B GOD PAERNTS
!!!!! WTF LOL TEH 3NTIER MARIAEG 3QUALITY ISUE MPLIFEID FOR ME DUE 2 SEV3RAL OF MAH PER GROUP DYNG WITHOUT EVAR HAVNG BEN “MAREID” D3SPIET BNG FATEHFUL 2 THERE PARTNERS FOR FIFTY OR SIXTY DA1!!11 WTF LOL POSITIONS OF VARIOUS COUNTREIS SUCH AS RUSIA MANY AFRICAN COUNTREIS AND OTHERS WHO NOT ONLY DO NOT RECOGNIEZ HOMOSEXUALS BUT OFTAN PUT THEM IN JALE OR PUT TH3M 2 DA!!!1 LOL POSITION AND ACTIONS OF VARIOUS US!!!11111 “CHURCHAS” WHO ACTIEVLY PROMOTE HARM 2 HOMOSEXUALS BOTH IN TEH UNIETD STAETS AND IN OTH3R COUNTREIS11!11! WTF THEYRE US3 OF MAH TAX DOLARS 2 SUSTANE THESE CHURCHAS IN THEYRE FIGHT 2 DENY ME RIGHTS PARTICULARLY INFURIAETS TEH1!!!! LOL NUMBR OF SUICIEDS IN LBGT U AND TEH NED FOR U HOMOS3XUALS 2 HAEV ROLA MODELS 2 SHOW THEM IT DO3S GET BT3R
GETNG!1!!! OMG LOL 2 KNOW PAOPLE IN SOME COUNTREIS OUTSIED TEH UNIETD STAETS WHERE A STAETMENT OF UR HOMOS3XUALITY IS MET WIT A SHRUG RATHER TH3N A CONDEMNATION AND DA EMBARASMENT TAHT DA LAND OF DA FRE” IS SO FAR BHIND!1!!1!! OMG WTF I R3MEMBR WIT GR3AT WARMTH TEH EMALE MESAEG FROM A (H3TAROS3XUAL) FREIND IN ARG3NTINA WHO WROTE ME ON DA DAY ARGENTINA GRANT3D MARIAEG 3QUALIM SO PROUD OF MAH COUNTRY 2DAY!1!!!111 WTF I WISH I CUD B AS PROUD OF DA UNIETD MAH!11!!11 LOL STUDY OF ALAN TURNG HIS WORK AND LIEF REFL3CTED BAK ON MAH OWN LIEF AND THIS YEAR BNG TEH 10TH ANIEVRSARY OF HIS BIRTH
FOR111!! OMG Y3ARS I HAEV BEN TOKNG IN FOS LECTURES ABOUT TEH THNGS TAHT HAPENED IN 1969 INCLUDNG MAH FIRST PROGRM TEH BGINNG OF UNIX TEH BGINNG OF DA ARPAENT AND DA BIRTH OF LINUS 2RVALDS BUT ON3 ADITIONAL THNG HAPEN3D IN DA BIRTH OF “GAY LIEBRATION” AT TEH S2NAWAL IN IN NU YORK TEH1!!1! SME MARCH TAHT BROUGHT CIVIL RIGHTS 2 AFRICAN MERICANS STARTED IN TAHT Y3AR AND IN TAHT PLAEC!1!!11! OMG UNTIL THIS Y3AR I HAEV NOT B3N A PART OF IT1!11! OMG WTF LOL MAH SEXUALITY WAS NOT A BIG PART OF MAH LIEF
BUT!111! OMG WTF EARLEIR THIS Y3AR I BGAN DONATNG 2 DA MARIAEG EQUALITY CMPAGEN IN NU HMPSHIER!1!1!!1 LOL I BGAN STAFNG TEH PHONAS IN CAL C3NT3RS WHEN TEH NU HMPSHIER R3PUBLICAN CONTROL3D HOUS3 LOK3D AS IF THEY WUD R3PEAL MARIAEG 3QUALITY (THEY HAEV NOT.YET)1!11!1!1!!1111!!1 WTF AND I PATEINTLY EXPLANEED 2 MAH NEXT-DOR NAIGHBOR OF TW3NTY YEARS (ALSO MAH R3PRESENTATIEV 2 DA NU HMPSHIER LEGISLATUR3) TAHT I WAS A HOMOS3XUAL AND TAHT MARIAEG 3QUALITY WUD NOT BRNG TEH DESTRUCTION OF NU HMPSHIER
IT!1111!! LOL HAS BEN IN DA PUSH FOR THIS ONE ISU3 TAHT I HAEV SEN RILLY HORIBL3 STAETMENTS PUT FORTH ABOUT HOMOSEXUALS WHICH 2LD M3 TAHT I JUST CUD NOT KEP SIELNT ANY MOR3
ABOUT1!!!! FIFTEN Y3ARS AGO I WROTE AN LETAR FOR DA LINUX JOURNAL WHERE I STAETD WUT I BLEIVE AND IM DUSTNG IT OF FOR HER3
I BLEIVE IN FRE SPECH A D3MOCRATIC PROCAS AND FREDOM OF CHOIEC
I11!11! OMG WTF BLEIVE IN NON-VIOL3NC3 AND HAEV N3V3R PHYSICALY HURT ANYON3 IN ANGER
I111!1! WTF LOL HAEV NEV3R BEN IN JALE N3VER BAN AR3STED AND HAEV RECAIEVD ONLY TWO SPEDNG TIKETS (WHICH I PADE) IN MAH 3NTIER LIEF
I!!!11!!! DO NOT BLEIVE TAHT KILNG A HUMAN BNG FOR ANYTHNG L3S THAN IMADIAET THRAAT OF LIEF MAH OWN OR ANOTH3R P3RSONS) IS EVAR JUSTIFEID YET I WUD GO 2 WAR 2 PROTECT MAH COUNTRY AND ITS IEDALS IF WE W3R3 ATAKAD
I!!!11 OMG LOL BLEIV3 IN EQUALITY OF DA RAECS AND SAX3S AND I BLEIVA IN HONORNG DIEVRSITY IN RELIGION AND SEXUAL OREINTATION
I!!!1 LOL BLEIVE TAHT DA DUTY OF GOVERNMENT IS 2 HONOR DA WIL OF DA MAJORITY AS LONG AS IT DOAS NOT VIOLAET TEH RIGHTS OF DA MINORITY
I!111 OMG WTF LOL HONOR LAWS EV3N THOS3 TAHT IM NOT COMPL3T3LY HAPY ABOUT BLEIVNG TAHT IT IS BTER 2 CHANG3 THEM THAN 2 BREAK TH3M
I11!!111! OMG WTF 3NCOURAEG PEOPLE 2 THINK ABOUT WT LAW M3ANS AND WUT IT WUD B LIEK IF THEYRE WER3 NO LAWS
I11!11 WTF HAEV NEVER EVEN BEN ACUSED IN COURT (LOCAL STAET OR F3DERAL) OF BNG A MONOPOLY BRAAKNG DA LAW OR KNOWNGLY HARMNG ANOTHER PERSONS BUSIENS OR TEH CONSUMAR BY MAH BUSIENS TACTICS
I!1!1111 OMG LOL BLEIV3 IN HONOR AND LIVNG AN HONORABLA LIEF
A!1!!!! OMG WTF LOL F3W Y3ARS AGO I WROTA A LETER 2 DA EDI2R OF OUR LOCAL PAEPR R3GARDNG MARIAEG AQUALITY AND TAHT 2 IS WORTH REVEIWNG
AS AEGNTS OF HAET SOME P3OPLA DO NOT SUPORT SME-S3X MARIAEG CITNG IRATIONAL FAARS UNPROVAN CONS3QU3NC3S A POR SANSE OF CIVIL HIS2RY AND REACTIONS 2 DA DACAEDS OF HATRED BY OTH3RS11111 MAH PAERNTS R 8 AND 86 YEARS OF AEG MAREID FOR 6 YEARS111! OMG LOL TH3Y STIL THINK OF AFRICAN M3RICANS AS INFERIOR1!11!1!1 WTF LOL IF U CALAD THEM RACIST OR HAETFUL TH3Y WUD B INSULTED..BUT11!!11!11!!!!!11!!!111!1 LOL THEY R RACIST AND DA THOUGHT IS HAETFUL
COME!!!!1! WIT M3 2 MAH FAVORIET BRAAKFAST DIENR WHERE I SIT IN TEH CORNER AND LIST3N 2 DA CONV3RSATIONS ABOUT DA FRUITS FAREEIS AND FAGOTS11111 OMG LOL TRY 2 WATCH TEH EL3N DEG3NERES SHOW (HOST3D BY A LESBIAN) WIT M3 ON DA TV AT DA DIENR!!!111 OMG WTF LOL UNFORTUNAETLY AS SON AS IT COMES ON TV A PERSON AT TEH DIENR G3TS UP 2 CHANG3 DA CHANEL1111!11 WTF TEH SM3 P3RSON EV3RY DAY11!! THEY DO NOT WATCH TH NU SHOW THEY READ THERE PAEPR OR TOK 2 OTHER P3OPL31111 OMG WTF WHAN I ASKED Y TH3Y CHANGAD DA CHANEL TH3Y JUST MUMBLE DA WORD DISGUSTNG
LOK1!!1!1! WTF OVAR MAH SHUDER AS I READ IN TEH N3WSPAEPRS LAT3RS ABOUT HOW IMORAL HOMOS3XUALS AER AND HOW THEY R COND3MNAD 2 H3L FOR FELNGS TH3Y HAEV LITLA CONTROL OV3R A FELNG USUALY CONSIEDRAD ON3 OF TEH MOST POWERFUL IN HUMAN EXPEREINCA11!1 TURNNG FROM TEH ADI2RIAL PAEG I READ ABOUT HOMOSEXUAL TEN-AEG SUICIEDS TWO 2 THRE TIEMS DA RAET OF H3TEROS3XUAL TENAEG SUICIEDS
GO11!11 LOL ON2 DA INTERNAT WIT ME AS I READ ABOUT HOW FRAD PH3LPS OF 2P3KA KANSAS AND TEH MAMBRS OF HIS CHURCH TOK ABOUT HOW GOD IS RAVAGNG TEH UNIETD STAETS B/C OF ITS HOMOSEXUAL AEGNDA!111 OMG KNOW TAHT IF HIS CHURCH IS BURNNG IT IS MAH TAX DOLARS TAHT PAYS DA FIER DEPARTMENT 2 PUT IT OUT
RAAD!!1!11 OMG WTF LOL WIT ME DA 3MALES I GET ABOUT A KID WHO WAS CHAESD THROUGH DA WODS AT TEH AEG OF 17 HAVNG A KNIEF H3LD 2 THEYRE THROAT AND CALAD FAGOT FAGOT FAGOT1!1!!1! OMG HARD 2 BLEIVE?!?!??!!! LOL RAMAMBR MATH3W SH3PH3RD!111!! RAM3MBR HARVEY MILK
WORK!!1!!! OMG WTF WIT M3 WHIEL I SIT UP OVER TEH WEK3ND WRITNG A NON-HARASM3NT POLICY FOR TEH COMPUTER CLUB I FORMED FIFTEN Y3ARS AGO SOMATHNG I N3VER THOUGHT WUD B N3C3SARY1111!!1! LOL I DO THIS NOT AT MAH INITIATIEV BUT B/C IM ASKED 2 DO IT BY OTHER M3MBRS
SIT1!11!! WTF AT MAH DA DINER TABLA WIT MAH FUNDM3NTALIST CHRISTIAN RELATIEVS AS TH3Y STAET Y DA 3NTIER WORLD IS CRUMBLNG B/C OF TEH HOMOS3XUAL AEGNDA!1!!1!1 OMG NOT B/C OF GRED ADULT3RY KILNG OR TEH F3AR AND HATR3D OF OTHAR PAOPLE BUT B/C TWO PEOPLE WHO LOVA 3ACH OTHER WANT 2 B MAREID
FINALY!!11!11 OMG WTF LOL PLZ TAEK THIS SIMPLE TEST WIT ME
THINK ABOUT UR FMILY!!111!1 WTF UR LOVNG WIEF AND UR CHILDREN1!1!!!1! WTF U S2D UP IN MARIAEG SO LONG AGO!!1!1 OMG LOL U PLADG3D UR LOV3 2 UR PARTNAR!!!!1111 OMG U PROUDLY TAEK UR MAREID PARTNER 2 PARTEIS DANC3S OFIEC PARTEIS..SOMETHNG!1!11!1!!1!!1!!11!!1 OMG WTF LOL IM NOT ABLE 2 U1!1!1! WTF LOL HAD CHILDRAN!!1!1 PERHAPS U ADOPTAD THEM BUT IN 3ITHER CAES U RASEED THEM AND LOV3D TH3M!1!!1!!1 WTF U R PROUD OF THERE ACOMPLISHMENTS1!11 OMG WTF THEY MAEK FREINDS PLAY SPORTS GAT GOD GRAEDS AT SKOOL!11! IN MANY STAETS I WIL N3V3R B ABLA 2 ADOPT CHILDR3N
THAY1!1!!1 OMG LOL SIGN UP FOR DA MILITARY AND THEY SARVA THERE COUNTRY W3L!!1!1 OMG WTF LOL THEN ONE DAY TH3Y SHOW UP AT UR DOR WIT A STRANGER AND A DISHONORABLE WIT!1!1111 T3ARS IN THEYRE AYES THEY T3L U TAHT TH3Y R HOMOS3XUAL!111!!!! OMG THEY T3L U TAHT THAY LOV3 DA PERSON TAHT IS WIT THAM AND WANT U 2 UNDERSTAND LOVE THEM AND SUPORT THEYRE D3SIER 2 MARY11!1! OMG LOL THEY WANT U 2 B PROUD OF THEM AND OF THERE LOV3D ONA
NOW!1!1 OMG WTF LOL HERE IS TEH TAST!111! OMG LOL DO U TH3M FAGOT AND T3L THEM 2 G3T OUT OF UR HOUSA FOREV3R
T3L??!!! WTF THEM TAHT THAY R GONG 2 BURN IN H3L
TEL?!!!??! WTF LOL THEM U CAN AC3PT BUT NOT FORGET?!???!!? OMG WTF LOL (DONT ASK DONT TAL
WALCOM3?????!!? OMG WTF BOTH OF THEM IN
TEST1!111 WTF OV3R1!!!!1! LOL HOW DID U DO
AS???!! OMG WTF U CAN SE WHIEL I HAEV BEN “INVISIBLE” FOR DA MOST PART I HAEV NOT BAN QUEIT
NOW1!!! OMG WTF ON TEH ANIEVRSARY OF ALAN TURNNGS BIRTH I CHOSE 2 B N3ITH3R QUEIT NOR INVISIBLE ANY WUT!1!!!!!1 OMG DID TAHT MEAN
FOR???!?!!! OMG WTF LOL DA MOST PART AND PARTICULARLY IN THIS BLOG U WIL SE NO CHANGE!!!!1 IM 61 Y3ARS WUT1!1111111!111!1111!1 OMG WTF U HAEV SEN IS WUT U WIL GET!!!11! OMG WTF I DO NOT INTEND ON ANY RADICAL CHANGAS1111! OMG WTF LOL I DO NOT INT3ND 2 COMBIEN MAH “RELIGION” FOR FRE R WIT MAH “RALIGION” FOR S3XUAL FREDOM!11! OMG WTF I WIL NOT RASE3 TEH ISU3 OF SEXUALITY AT CONF3RANCES AND IN THIS BLOG11!!!! OMG I FEL TAHT G3TNG TEH WORD OUT ABOUT FRE R IS AT LEAST AS IMPORTANT AS GETNG DA WORD OUT ABOUT SEXUAL FREDOM111!!!1 OMG I DO NOT WANT ONE 2 INT3RF3RE WIT DA OTHAR
LIEKWIES!!!!1 OMG I WIL HONOR DA S3XUAL MORAS OF VARIOUS SOCEITEIS WHIEL IM THERE GU3ST
HOWEV3R111!1111 WTF IF IM AT A CONFERANCE AND TEH 2PIC IS RASEAD BY OTHERS I WIL NOT BAK AWAY FROM IT AND IF P3OPLE NED AN 3AR OR A SHUDER 2 LAAN ON WIT RAGARD 2 THIS 2PIC I WIL B THEIR1!!11!1! OMG LOL DA OTHER HAND IN MAH FAECBOK PAEGS OR IN MAH TWETS U MAY SE EV3N MORE ABOUT HOMOSAXUALITY.NOT111!!11!!!1!11 WTF A HUG3 MOUNT.JUST1!1!!1!1!1111!!111 A LITLE MOR3..SORY!111!11!!!1!!1!!!11!!11!11!!! OMG ABOUT TAHT1!!1 IF U DO NOT LIEK IT THEN “UN-FREIND” AND “UN-FOLOW” MIGHT B APROPRIAET FOR U1!!1!!!1 WTF LOL I WIL NOT HAET U FOR TAHT ALTHOUGH I WIL ADMIT 2 BNG A BIT DISAPOINTED IN U!!111!1 LOL U HAEV GOTEN THIS FAR I APLAUD U!!1! OMG I ALSO HOP3 TAHT AL MAH FREINDS BOTH VIRTUAL AND PHYSICAL H3TEROSAXUAL HOMOSEXUAL BI-S3XUAL TRANS-G3NDER TRANS-SAXUAL AND “OTH3R” WIL STIL COM3 UP SHAEK MAH HAND AND HUG ME..AND11!1!11!!!!!!11!1!1!11!1111 WTF LOL WANT 2 HAEV THERE PICTUR3 TAEKN WIT M3 AS BFORA
R3MEMBR!11!111 OMG TAHT IM EXACTLY DA SME PARSON AS BFORE.IT!!1!11!1!11!1!!1!!1!! OMG WTF IS JUST U KNOW A LITL3 MOR3 ABOUT ME.IN!!!!1!!!1111!111!1! LOL FACT U KNOW AVERYTHNG ABOUT M31!!! LOL I HAEV NO OTHAR SECRETS
PEAEC1!!111! WTF AND LOVE 2 U AL.AND.CARPA1!!1!11!11!11!1111 OMG DEIM11!1

Re:Jon "Maddog" Hall ... Full text within (1, Offtopic)

History's Coming To (1059484) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591873)

Not even close. Read this [amazon.com] and get back to us:

Time to Sell Your AAPL (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40590915)

Apple has peaked and has made a lot of enemies. More importantly, in China, there's a precedent now of them caving in, so they're now vulnerable. Of course, since they are a foreign company in China, they've always been vulnerable, but now everyone knows it. These suits will proliferate and become a significant drag on Apple's profitability.

Re:Time to Sell Your AAPL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591693)

Well see next quarter, I do predict a slump.

Chinese are the correct people for Apple. (2, Interesting)

Aditya88 (1941500) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591019)

yesterday some Chinese company f**d apple over the name IPad. And now this company is screwing apple over siri. Its all Apple's bad karma because the other side apple is screwing Samsung, and others...

Hard to sympathize with patent troll Apple. (2, Funny)

walterbyrd (182728) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591347)

No company - not even Microsoft - is a more shameless patent troll than Apple. Have you forgotten about Apple's harassment lawsuit against HTC?

Maybe turnabout is fair play?

Companies are just more afraid of Microsoft (4, Informative)

Quila (201335) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592441)

Microsoft is getting $5 for every Android phone from HTC, Motorola, and probably the rest because Microsoft threatened to sue over patents.

Go China! (1, Funny)

Lou3000 (2466814) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591047)

I sure hope they force Apple to stop using Siri, becuase Siri is the worst part of iOS. iOS4, without a reliable network data connection. Me: Call Home iPhone: Calling Home iOS5, without a reliable network data connection. Me: Call Home Siri: I'm sorry there has been a problem, please try again. Me: Call Home Siri: I'm not able to do that right now, sorry. Obviously I realize this won't happen, and at worst Apple will just settle.

Re:Go China! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591153)

You think that's bad.

My friend Siri used to have Apple products, then she had an Apple bonfire.

Re:Go China! (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591161)

I sure hope they force Apple to stop using Siri,

I hope it stops everyone from using voice recognition. Very slow, incredibly error prone, completely non-private, intrusive, and dangerous. If its too dangerous to pick up the phone and dial, maybe you should be concentrating on your driving instead of talking? Non-private is eventually the supermarket cashier is going to have to recite your credit card number out loud instead of typing it, or the bank teller speak your SS number, is distinct from intrusive in that its annoying enough that I have to listen to you argue with your girlfriend on the train, I don't want to have to listen to 5 minutes of your arguing with Siri before you start arguing with your girl.

Go away, "Voice Recognition" you suck and don't come back, except for legit handicapped people.

Re:Go China! (1)

gtall (79522) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592279)

The day I'm forced to talk to my computer is the day I take it out back and shoot it.

Re:Go China! (4, Funny)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591187)

I might tell Siri to call me Dave, just so she can say "I can't do that, Dave."

Re:Go China! (1)

SpzToid (869795) | more than 2 years ago | (#40593019)

"I'm sorry, Dave's not here."

"Would you like me to search for Dave?"

Re:Go China! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591197)

I used to think that advances in AI would be the reason if one day a program will pass the Turing test. Now I think we'll get there with a big helping of dwindling HI.

Apple can't have it both ways (4, Insightful)

chowdahhead (1618447) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591099)

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Re:Apple can't have it both ways (5, Interesting)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591737)

Heh, they wished for it, they got it.

US companies are lobbying like demons to have China enforce their "intellectual property" on the assumption that the little yellow devils are too lazy and dumb to ever invent anything of their own.

A billion smart, hungry people and an education system that doesn't pander to the lower common denominator is about to show them how arrogant and short sighted that is.

You want to take them on, patents trolls? They can write three patents to your one, and for a quarter of the price.

I'd rub their noses in it some more, but the sad part is that it just means that everything is going to cost us more, and the only people who will benefit will be Chinese lawyers.

Chinese Lawyers vs Apple Lawyers (0)

gavron (1300111) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592115)

If the Chinese lawyers win, we get phones and tablets and PCs without features disabled,
lower prices, and a higher selection.

If the Apple Lawyers win, people who make $8/hr get to be called "geniuses" and all
hardware is limited in what you can do with it, and costs twice as much.

Apple's dead 1/3 founder Jobs' thermonuclear war is destroying the company. That's ok
by me.

E

Re:Apple can't have it both ways (2)

Dodgy G33za (1669772) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592171)

Nah, this is good. As soon as someone other than the US is getting the most benefit from patent and copyright, you just watch the US agitate for a change....

Re:Apple can't have it both ways (1)

gbjbaanb (229885) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592175)

not at all, those Chinese guys will waste their time inventing complicated stuff that works. Don't they know the true solution is to patent the rectangle, one-clicking, or slide-to-unlock and go straight to court?

Re:Apple can't have it both ways (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40592465)

Live be the iWord, die by the iWord

Right... Some more to come? (1)

hotfireball (948064) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591149)

Now they will start pop one after another asking millions one after another: uPad, oPad, iPeed, Panasoanic, Snarp, Adibas, Xiri, Sipi, Appe and other genuine Chinese clones of stuff.

MaxDB (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591231)

Adibas

Isn't that the old name for MaxDB [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:Right... Some more to come? (4, Funny)

El Torico (732160) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591253)

That first one would make a great name for a feminine hygiene product.

Re:Right... Some more to come? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591343)

I suppose then the third one should make elderly diapers?

They may have it but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591189)

So they have a patent on it, does the patent say "with a touch screen" or "on a mobile device"? I bet not. Apple for the win!

Robots (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591543)

Ummm, Apple prognosticated a voice assistant in fuuristic advertising 20 years ago.

Star Trek did 50 years ago.

And let's not even get into "Gort. Klaatu barada nikto."

The real power is in the dancing bear, not someone's use of it.

Death by a thousand cuts... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591555)

China did invent Lingchi or death by a thousand cuts. Looks like the figured out how to take Apple down. After winning it's court case, Proview Technology sent out an email saying, "...tell them how to bring those sons of bitches down."

So is manufacturing in China really that cheap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591561)

Given the corruption and bogus patent claims that have to be settled, not to mention the pirating, one has ask do companies know the real cost of doing business in China? Instead of prosecuting in Western countries for fraud that originates in China, shouldn't they just move the production to someplace less corrupt?

Fast prosecution (2)

Infiniti2000 (1720222) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591779)

It was filed on Aug 13, 2004, and got approved on Feb 15, 2006.

I think this is the real story here. From the time to file to approval is about 1.5 years. In the U.S., it's 5 to 8 years [inventionstatistics.com] . We cannot hope to compete if these numbers are real, and, apparently, they are.

Re:Fast prosecution (1)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591835)

I think it's intentionally 5 to 8 years for a patent to be granted in the USA. The clock starts ticking when it's granted. So they can file, hold it for a few years making minor revisions from time to time and then surface for a lawsuit the moment anyone does anything innovative.

Re:Fast prosecution (1)

Dodgy G33za (1669772) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592197)

Yep. Lodgement date is the only date that counts.

Thank You China (5, Interesting)

ianare (1132971) | more than 2 years ago | (#40591845)

You better believe something will be done about software patents, and IP laws in general, when the Chinese start to heavily sue US companies.

I mean, when it's US companies bashing those in other countries, software patents are awesome. When the inverse occurs, they are obviously a hinderance to progress.

Re:Thank You China (4, Interesting)

Dodgy G33za (1669772) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592219)

Worse that a hinderance. They are an affront to the free world and the democratic way of life.

Which is why when the US was founded they ignored European patents and copied like fucking crazy. It was only when they started having ideas of their own worth protecting they thought different.

Business Model in China (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40591955)

1. Steal technology from Western firms, either through direct corporate espionage or as a requirement of doing business in China.
2. Patent said stolen technology.
3. Sue Western companies in China for infringing on the Chinese patent of the Western company's technology.
4. Profit.

The chinese got it figured out.

Business Model in China - stolen from Apple! (3, Interesting)

walterbyrd (182728) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592679)

China must have stolen Apple's business model!

For example, Apple just patented Google Glass. Before that, Apple patented Googe search. How about the "slide to unlock" or "pinch to shrink" ideas that Apple stole then patented, and sued over?

ROTFL (1)

Tom (822) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592265)

China is famous for copying everything - to their advantage, often driving out the original competitors from whom they copied through lower prices.

Now they've started copying the US patent system. Kiss your ass goodbye.

instant messaging chat robot system in year 2004 (1)

tokul (682258) | more than 2 years ago | (#40592985)

Do they realize that eggdrop [wikipedia.org] prio art has bypassed time limits in patents and speech recognition software dates back to 1982.
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