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Russian Wikipedia Shutters In Protest of Internet Blacklist Plans

Unknown Lamer posted about 2 years ago | from the sarah-palin-to-liberate-russian-people dept.

Censorship 84

decora writes "If you visit Russian Wikipedia today you will be forgiven for thinking the entire site has crashed. It is not a crash, but a protest of the Russian State Duma's Bill 89417-6 According to Ria Novosti, the bill is 'proposing a unified digital blacklist of all websites containing pornography, drug ads and promoting suicide or extremist ideas.' Russian Wikipedia's main page has been replaced with a redacted logo and a protest text, part of which says 'The Wikipedia community protests against censorship, dangerous to free knowledge, open to all mankind. We ask you to support us in opposing this bill.' (translation by Google Translate)"

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84 comments

"shutters"? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599225)

Is this a verb? Aren't shutters the things that go over windows in case of a storm? Didn't we just have a story about grammar?

Re:"shutters"? (4, Insightful)

Bill Currie (487) | about 2 years ago | (#40599247)

Verbing nouns is something English speakers have been doing for a very long time.

Re:"shutters"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599269)

Is it really too much to ask to type "shuts down"? "Shutters"? Come on.

Re:"shutters"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599347)

Shutter is a verb...Are you familiar with the concept of a dictionary?

Re:"shutters"? (2)

kevmitch (2220314) | about 2 years ago | (#40599507)

Appears to exist in American English [merriam-webster.com] at least.

Re:"shutters"? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599719)

I am bootyass process!
I am bootyass process!
I am bootyass process!
I am bootyass process!

Not Just English Speakers. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599319)

Verbing nouns is something English speakers have been doing for a very long time.

It's not just "English speakers". Americans have been "verbing nouns" for a long time, too.

Re:Not Just English Speakers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599357)

Try Googling that...

Re:Not Just English Speakers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599433)

Whoosh (It's a non-English word that Americams use).

Re:Not Just English Speakers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599973)

I know - hence 'Googling' :) ...I should have used quotes

Re:Not Just English Speakers. (1)

ewanm89 (1052822) | about 2 years ago | (#40600751)

I believe the verb 'to google' is in the Oxford English Dictionary when they finished the revised edition and publish it, that is.

Re:Not Just English Speakers. (3, Funny)

Datamonstar (845886) | about 2 years ago | (#40599471)

Yeah, we've been known to pork pork or buffalo Buffalo buffalo from time to time.

Badgering Badger badgers (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#40600909)

But do you badger Badger badgers anymore? Or have you ended your habit of harassing Wisconsin mustelids? Either way, have a Mushroom mushroom [newgrounds.com] .

Re:Not Just English Speakers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599899)

Do Americans speak American?

Re:Not Just English Speakers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40601777)

Most american speakers speak something they call english.

Re:"shutters"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40600179)

And yet, lexically shifting a word because you're too stupid or too lazy to find a meaningful alternative still makes you look like a dick.

Re:"shutters"? (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | about 2 years ago | (#40600927)

Ya, why didn't he "Google" that?

Re:"shutters"? (2)

mrbester (200927) | about 2 years ago | (#40599725)

It's a well established gerund - like "bridge" that serves its purpose. Unlike such idiocy as "burglarize" (burgle already exists), even most -ized words coined by the inarticulate.

"shuts down" -- too many words (1)

decora (1710862) | about 2 years ago | (#40600733)

headlines have to be short , especially when you are trying to 'scoop' the entire rest of the internet news sites. unfortunately when your story sits in the slashdot queue for several hours, the entire internet "scoops you"

Re:"shutters"? (1)

athe!st (1782368) | about 2 years ago | (#40600735)

Didn't we just have a story about grammar?

Because that should have fixed everything...

Is this a verb?

do you never google?

Re:"shutters"? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#40606107)

Is this a verb?

Yes.
shutÂterâ â/ËÊfÊOEtÉ(TM)r/ Show Spelled[shuht-er] Show IPA
noun
1. a solid or louvered movable cover for a window.
2. a movable cover, slide, etc., for an opening.
3. a person or thing that shuts.
4. Photography . a mechanical device for opening and closing the aperture of a camera lens to expose film or the like.

verb
5. to close or provide with shutters: She shuttered the windows.
6. to close (a store or business operations) for the day or permanently.

Re:"shutters"? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#40606337)

Crap, I should have previewed, the link to reference.com broke.

did the site crash? durr (1)

noh8rz5 (2674523) | about 2 years ago | (#40599235)

If you visit Russian Wikipedia today you will be forgiven for thinking the entire site has crashed.. Russian Wikipedia's main page has been replaced with a redacted logo and a protest text, part of which says 'The Wikipedia community protests against censorship, dangerous to free knowledge, open to all mankind.

umm, i think that a reasonable person would see the protest message, and conclude that the site did not in fact crash. just sayin'

Re:did the site crash? durr (2)

boneglorious (718907) | about 2 years ago | (#40600195)

Some people don't read messages, as every current and former tech support person can no doubt attest.

Re:did the site crash? durr (1)

hackula (2596247) | about 2 years ago | (#40601245)

Correct. As any Slashdotter knows, no current of former tech support person has ever RTFA.

Re:did the site crash? durr (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | about 2 years ago | (#40600505)

Half the letters are coming out backwards and there's random digits in the middle of words. Looks like it crashed to me.

Re:did the site crash? durr (1)

weakref (2554172) | about 2 years ago | (#40601565)

Well, there is a message today. Here is the provided English translation: "Wikipedia in Russian will be closed on 10th of July because of Russian parliament’s debating of amendments to the law About information that could create real censorship of the internet — a blacklisting and filtering of internet sites. Supporters of the law’s proposition say that it is aimed only at widely prohibited content such as child pornography and information like this, but conditions for determining the content falls under this law will create a thing like the great Chinese firewall. The existing Russian law’s practice shows the high possibility of the worst scenatio, in which access to Wikipedia soon will be closed in all country. On July 11 will be held the second reading of the law in the State Duma. The law will come into force after the third reading, which date isn’t set yet."

Bot Nets (4, Funny)

zippo01 (688802) | about 2 years ago | (#40599237)

I wonder is this bill would also shut down all the Russian Bot nets. You now how many porn offers I get a day from Russia/Asia.

Re:Bot Nets (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599561)

I wonder is this bill would also shut down all the Russian Bot nets. You now how many porn offers I get a day from Russia/Asia.

No, it won;t. You see... a bot is not a Web site!

Re:Bot Nets (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599817)

I tried to chime in here http://en.ria.ru/private/register.html but in order to tell them to fuck off I had to enter my birthday or passport info....

oh the irony...

J.

Good luck (4, Interesting)

siddesu (698447) | about 2 years ago | (#40599249)

The Russian Internet has been under a very strong pressure to shut up from the political elite for a long time now (I got banned from a forum for the first time for criticizing Hutin in 2004 or thereabouts), but this law is like opening the proverbial floodgate of abuse.

Good luck fighting back. Democracy is a process, not a state -- unless the people are prepared to stand up for it, it goes.

In passing, hardly anyone would think the site has crashed -- those who use it often will read the notice, and those who don't will only go there because they've seen the news of the protest.

Hutin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599377)

Is that some sort of genetically-engineered hybrid of the Chinese president and the Russian president?

You are right - I am not American.

Re:Hutin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599441)

Apparently you are not French either, it is not an unheard of name. Although I doubt the GP was referring to French politician Christian Hutin.

Re:Hutin? (4, Informative)

temcat (873475) | about 2 years ago | (#40599821)

No, it's a simple syllable transposition "Putin - (k)hui" (Russian for "Putin is a dick") -> "(K)Hutin - pui".

Re:Hutin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599921)

It is a kind of word play: Putin - Hui (Putin is a dick) becomes Hutin - Pui, which is not only just as offensive, but also very funny.

Re:Good luck (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599413)

(I got banned from a forum for the first time for criticizing Hutin in 2004 or thereabouts)

I've gotten banned from American websites countless times for silly things. Guess that means The American Internet has been under a very strong pressure to shut up from the political elite for a long time now

Re:Good luck (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599459)

It pretty much has (or was that the corporate elite?), but not because of that.

Re:Good luck (4, Insightful)

Johann Lau (1040920) | about 2 years ago | (#40599637)

What's with the snarks? What's so funny?

http://cis471.blogspot.com/2011/01/before-twitter-revolutions-there-was.html [blogspot.com]

http://w2.eff.org/Activism/russian_coup_netuse.article [eff.org]

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 00:17:31 +0300 (MSD)

            Hi!

            Don't worry, we're OK, though frightened and angry. Moscow is full
            of tanks and military machines, I hate them. They try to close all
            mass media, they shutted up CNN an hour ago, Soviet TV transmits
            opera and old movies. But, thanks Heaven, they don't consider
            RELCOM mass media or they simply forgot about it. Now we transmit
            information enough to put us in prison for the rest of our life :-).
            Hope all will turn out well at long last...

            Polina

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 91 21:12:26 +0300 (MSD)

            Thank you, Larry!

            Now all information media are on, CNN transmites our
            "Time" TV program, and I can watch them both!
            I'v heard (may be it was CNN) that they withdraw
            armed forces from Baltics cities. I'm not near the
            parliament, I'm still at the computer, but the situation
            on the net became lighter now and I hope to sleep a little, it was
            my dream during last two days :-)

            You can't even imagine, how grateful we are for your
            help and support in this terrible time! The best thing
            is to know, that we aren't alone.

Looking at the above, and then looking at this "discussion", I have one word for all of you: regression.

Re:Good luck (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599823)

The Russian Internet has been under a very strong pressure to shut up from the political elite for a long time now

Exactly. They are creating a nyet-net.

Re:Good luck (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#40606419)

That's called PravdaNet.

Re:Good luck (2)

Robert Zenz (1680268) | about 2 years ago | (#40600401)

Maybe the admin likes Putin? I'm not sure how you relate from a private forum to the whole internet and politics debate.

Re:Good luck (2, Interesting)

siddesu (698447) | about 2 years ago | (#40600451)

Not really, hence the emphasis on the first time I recall it happening. The removal of even mildly anti-government stuff began in the early 2000s, but it didn't end there. Later on quite a few sites in the .ru TLD were told first to remove anti-government discussions and news, then raided, then finally forced to move away from the runet altogether.

There are reports that on many occasions the FSB (Federal Security Service) has requested that ISPs and sites provide information on users. Things have gotten particularly bad since the mass protests during the 2010 winter and then around the elections in 2011 and this year.

It is not only the Internet, all media are being targeted. The editors of one of the leading newspapers, the Kommersant (critical of Putin), were sacked (by the owners, who are very close to Pu) because of the way they covered the elections in 2011, the independent radio Echo of Moscow saw some editorial changes, etc. etc.

Russia is descending back to something that looks a lot like the socialism of the Brezhnev era (or stabilitism, as people joke these days, playing word games with Putin's constant calls for "stability").

Re:Good luck (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40604589)

Not really, hence the emphasis on the first time I recall it happening. The removal of even mildly anti-government stuff began in the early 2000s, but it didn't end there. Later on quite a few sites in the .ru TLD were told first to remove anti-government discussions and news, then raided, then finally forced to move away from the runet altogether.

That's interesting. What were these sites, could you provide URLs?

Russia is descending back to something that looks a lot like the socialism of the Brezhnev era (or stabilitism, as people joke these days, playing word games with Putin's constant calls for "stability").

Here's a democracy for you - that's exactly what the majority of the population wants.

Re:Good luck (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40604145)

The Russian Internet has been under a very strong pressure to shut up from the political elite for a long time now (I got banned from a forum for the first time for criticizing Hutin in 2004 or thereabouts), but this law is like opening the proverbial floodgate of abuse.

Did Putin ban you personally on that forum, or was it someone from the Russian political elite?
If not, that's hardly a good example of the oppression - forum bans because of the political squabbles happen in the USA all the time.

I have an idea (2)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 years ago | (#40599283)

Maybe if they want to block all "dangerous" sites, they should block all the Russian sites.

Re:I have an idea (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about 2 years ago | (#40599751)

Isn't that their plan?

READY !! NOVEL IDEA !! BLACLIST RUSSIA, CHINA !! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599291)

And the internet becomes safe !!

FUCK RUSSIA !!

And the internet becomes safe !!

FUCK CHINA !!

Re:READY !! NOVEL IDEA !! BLACLIST RUSSIA, CHINA ! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599927)

Damn right. Fuck Russia and China. All they do is increase the cost of business with their endless scams and spams. We should have encouraged those pricks to stay communist because they sure as hell don't contribute dick to capitalism except a pain in the ass.

Tor Discussion Forums + DNSCrypt (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599321)

# In this post:
#
# 1. Tor Discussion Forums (two hidden services)
# 2. DNSCrypt - for Linux, Mac, and Windows (from opendns)

# 1. Tor Discussion Forums (two hidden services)

We need an official Tor discussion forum.

I did not see this issue mentioned in Roger's *latest* notes post, so for now, mature adults should visit and post at one or both of these unofficial tor discussion forums, these tinyurls will take you to:

** HackBB:
        http://www.tinyurl.com/hackbbonion [tinyurl.com]

** Onion Forum 2.0
        http://www.tinyurl.com/onionforum2 [tinyurl.com]

Each tinyurl link will take you to a hidden service discussion forum. Tor is required to visit these links, even though they appear to be on the open web, they will lead you to .onion sites.

I know the Tor developers can do better, but how many years are we to wait?

Caution: some topics may be disturbing. You should be eighteen years or older. I recommend you disable images in your browser when viewing these two forums[1] and only enabling them if you are posting a message, but still be careful! Disable javascript and cookies, too.

If you prefer to visit the hidden services directly, bypassing the tinyurl service:

HackBB: (directly)
http://clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion/ [clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion]

Onion Forum 2.0: (directly)
http://65bgvta7yos3sce5.onion/ [65bgvta7yos3sce5.onion]

The tinyurl links are provided as a simple means of memorizing the hidden services via a link shortening service (tinyurl.com).

[1]: Because any content can be posted! Think 4chan, for example. onionforum2 does not appear to be heavily moderated so be aware and take precautions.

###

# 2. DNSCrypt for Linux, Windows, Mac (from opendns.com)

"In the same way the SSL turns HTTP web traffic into HTTPS encrypted Web traffic, DNSCrypt turns regular DNS traffic into encrypted DNS traffic that is secure from eavesdropping and man-in-the-middle attacks. It does not require any changes to domain names or how they work, it simply provides a method for securely encrypting communication between our customers and our DNS servers in our data centers. We know that claims alone do not work in the security world, however, so we have opened up the source to our DNSCrypt code base and it is available on GitHub"

https://www.opendns.com/technology/dnscrypt/ [opendns.com]

- Download the right package for your Linux distribution:
https://blog.opendns.com/2012/02/16/tales-from-the-dnscrypt-linux-rising/ [opendns.com]

https://github.com/opendns/dnscrypt-proxy/blob/master/README.markdown [github.com]
https://github.com/opendns [github.com]
https://blog.opendns.com/2012/05/08/dnscrypt-for-windows-has-arrived/ [opendns.com]
http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/05/dnscrypt-encrypts-your-dns-traffic-because-theres-always-someone-out-to-get-you/ [techcrunch.com]
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/DNSCrypt-a-tool-to-encrypt-all-DNS-traffic-1392283.html [h-online.com]
http://blog.opendns.com/2012/02/06/dnscrypt-hackers-wanted/ [opendns.com]
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/dnscrypt-930439/ [linuxquestions.org]

###

eof

Re:Tor Discussion Forums + DNSCrypt (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599889)

Thanks for the list of subversive and dangerous internet sites and protocols, Comrade, we've taken the liberty of blocking and flagging all such traffic.

Extremist ideas indeed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599327)

If you thought it could hardly get more ludicrous, consider that Russian government attorneys had in the past claimed that the social group "government officials" is a legally protected minority similar to an ethnic or religious minority, meaning that criticizing the government can be considered a form of "extremism" akin to racism or religious discrimination, which in Russia is a criminal offense.

While nobody has so far been been in fact charged in Russian courts for criticizing the government (at least not officially, there are plenty of cases of being selectively prosecuted for other offenses where the real cause is political dissent), it could get even worse now as the government can simply claim they have full legislative grounds to block all political opposition websites as "extremist". Think of the amount of work it'd save the Russian government when they no longer have to even bother fabricating false evidence, inventing excuses, or even getting the courts involved for political suppression, but rather can do by the flick of a switch with no delays, avenues for appeal, or negative publicity that court proceedings bring.

The Russian government had long waited for an excuse to suppress political opposition online, which is currently the only reasonably politically free medium in Russia, and this looks to be their chance.

Re:Extremist ideas indeed (1)

garaged (579941) | about 2 years ago | (#40600313)

Here in México we are supposed not to be so repressive and there are plans to promote a few laws against gov criticism. Most likely to be approbed in the next months if not a lot of protests are made against it.

Hmmmmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599337)

A bill promoting an internet blacklist sure seems like an extremist idea.

whoever proposed this bill should be redacted and solve the entire problem at once.

w3m and lynx still works (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599359)

but I'm having trouble figuring out an adblock rule.

I suppport you IF . . . (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599383)

You stop flying fighter aircraft with nukes across the West Coast where I live.

I always support the Russian people, government not so much.

Re:I suppport you IF . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599901)

Wait, who loads nukes on a fighter aircraft, and then flies them across the Pacific?

I suppose Israel might have some they got from the US, but I don't think the Russians would bother with it.

I'm not even sure if the US has them in service anymore. They're not actually that good a system.

Re:I suppport you IF . . . (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | about 2 years ago | (#40602919)

WTF are you talking about?

I always support the Russian people, government not so much.

As someone with a degree in Russian studies, I can tell ya that Russians love semantic cop-outs.

Re:I suppport you IF . . . (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#40606473)

You stop flying fighter aircraft with nukes across the West Coast where I live.

As a Russian, I fully support that. Flying those aircraft is expensive and ultimately pointless (both they and their load is easy to intercept).

Nuclear subs with ICBMs, now, are a whole different kettle of fish (how many do you think are close to West Coast right now?). ~

No more coffee ads (0)

chrismcb (983081) | about 2 years ago | (#40599387)

So pornography, drug ads, extremist thought (what is extreme?) and promoting suicide are all on the same footing?
Well I guess no more coffee ads in Russia.

Re:No more coffee ads (5, Insightful)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | about 2 years ago | (#40599419)

what is extreme?

Along with "obscene," everything that the government doesn't like.

Re:No more coffee ads (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599449)

Well, it's really just a blanket law, giving the government a large amount of power. Those things which infringe but are helpful for the powers that be will be allowed, other things will be blocked.

For me, the line has already been crossed many times in many nations. I've since stopped caring about the legal/political situation and focus my energies on darknets.

Re:No more coffee ads (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599533)

I've since stopped caring about the legal/political situation and focus my energies on darknets.

Mission accomplished. To win, they don't need to control everybody, only the majority. And I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Average Joe to enter a darknet.

Extreme!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599475)

No more extreme amateur bungee jumping [youtube.com]

Russian State Dumbass?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599399)

Am I the only one who read it like that, then thinking i was mistaken, only to find that my first mis-interpretation was actually correct if they pass this bill?

...or extremist ideas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599405)

But that would mean that no American web sites would be accessible form Russia.

Russian State Duma the people (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599447)

Get it right.

You don't hate the Chinese, or Russians.

It's the govt stupid!

Connect the dots, the resultant map, can't be much different than the psychopaths in the USA

Putin lost the election (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599457)

Putin lost the election but won the count. He can suppress the printed media and television discussing the documented election fraud, but doesn't have a mechanism to suppress the Internet. THIS gives him that power. He's facing protests in Moscow, the election was as phoney as it gets, with him announcing a classic USSR win of 63% with the rest having 6%-17% of the count.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/world/europe/observers-detail-flaws-in-russian-election.html?pagewanted=all

Dmitry Medvedev was never in power, as you can see by the South Ossentian invasion, Putin was the one making the announcements on that, yet in theory Medvedev was supposed to be in power. Then come the next election Medvedev steps down for Putin, saying he would make a much better president!

It's the same old story, KGB loses control, KGB reestablishes control. The difference this time is the Internet and why he's so keen to lock it down to prevent dissenting information being spread.

Re:Putin lost the election (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#40606505)

I have a bunch of friends in Russia who are strongly against Putin and were observers from the opposition in both parliament and presidential elections. They have all said that, from their personal observations, the parliament elections had a lot of fraud in them, but presidential ones, not so much - all of them agree that, even accounted for all the irregularities, Putin would have got the 50%+1 he needed to be elected in the first round even with a completely fair vote count.

What a country! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599467)

In the US, you edit Wikipedia.

In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia edits you!

I just got up from sleep (3, Funny)

torsmo (1301691) | about 2 years ago | (#40599481)

...and all I saw: "If you visit Russian Wikipedia today you will be forgiven for thinking". May I be blessed.

hmmm (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599577)

Add child to pornography, replace ads with sales, and promoting suicide with cyberbullying, and things sound eerily similar to what US lawmakers keep trying to push.

Re:hmmm (1)

Shalcker (989572) | about 2 years ago | (#40600695)

Russians are playing catch-up with American legal system! Just recently they passed their own version of FARA [wikipedia.org] ; and it's "child pornography" in text of this new law already, not just any pornography.

russians are fucking scum (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599675)

they make viruses and then pretend to "discover them" like what twice a month now? get those creeps off the internet.

Re:russians are fucking scum (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599737)

Stereotype much? Xenophobia is your friend I see.

Re:russians are fucking scum (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599815)

Any ambitious and ethical Russian would have moved to America or the UK. Only the bottom feeders are left over there.

Re:russians are fucking scum (1)

Phrogman (80473) | about 2 years ago | (#40600485)

And when they got there discovered that while things are better, they are headed much the same way...
Russia is just ahead of the US and UK in controlling the minds and lives of their "citizens" thats all. Sadly for me, Canada is rushing to get ahead under our current PM.

Re:russians are fucking scum (1)

gdy (708914) | about 2 years ago | (#40601075)

>ambitious and ethical Russian You mean like yourself? "Bottom feeders", really? Hate to break your heart but you should probably take a class on ethics or something.

Just shut the thing down (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40599703)

"unified digital blacklist of all websites containing pornography, drug ads and promoting suicide or extremist ideas."

Wait, there are sites that DONT have any of the above?

Re:Just shut the thing down (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40601493)

Not Russian ones.

I'm pretty extreme (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about 2 years ago | (#40600065)

Does that mean they'll blacklist all of my ideas?

The ultimate solution - worldwide ad-hoc network (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40602543)

To put it bluntly the people in power hate the internet and want to shut it down. They want to roll back the world to the mid 20th century when a very few large corporations had total control over production and dissemination of information.

What the 99% need is a network that nobody controls. Freenet was a good idea but it is not usable by non-techies and it relies on existing infrastructure.

We need a mesh network that bypasses the existing infrastructure and where anyone can set up a node using cheap commercial hardware. Possibly the ability to set up clandestine nodes such throwing a solar powered "wifi grenade" on the roof of building or replace a power outlet with one that has a hidden transmitter.

Governments and corporations simply cannot be trusted to have power over information.

The statement "power corrupts" isn't right. Power itself is corruption and only inherently sociopathic individuals seek it.

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