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Linux.org Quietly Comes Back To Life

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the to-feast-upon-the-penguin-food-of-the-living dept.

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jfruh writes "The venerable Linux.org site quietly relaunched some weeks ago, offering much of the original useful content on Linux as well as some new articles. The site is still associated with Michael McLagen, a somewhat controversial figure due to the fights around the Linux Standards Association back in the late '90s. McLagen has not responded to requests for comments on the relaunched site."

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52 comments

A long history of attracting nutballs (-1, Flamebait)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#40606687)

The site is still associated with Michael McLagen, a somewhat controversial figure

Has there ever been anyone associated with Linux, who WASN'T controversial? Seriously, that OS attracts more nuts than men's day at the Jif factory.

Re:A long history of attracting nutballs (4, Funny)

amiga3D (567632) | about 2 years ago | (#40606931)

Unlike rational and reasonable people like Steve Ballmer or Steven Jobs?

Re:A long history of attracting nutballs (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40607891)

Steve Ballmer or Steven Jobs?

They actually somewhat resemble real human beings, unlike the anus-licking FOSS brethren. Contrast, dipshit, contrast.

Re:A long history of attracting nutballs (2)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 2 years ago | (#40607913)

Maybe its just the computer field in general. Have you ever seen as much angst as when Microsoft or Canonical changes some small widget in their GUI?

Rational versus Irrational (-1, Redundant)

andersh (229403) | about 2 years ago | (#40608041)

What exactly do you claim Steve and Steve did that was not rational? Please, remind me.

I agree that they are/were controversial, but irrational? They seem to have done very well for themselves, their respective corporations and products.

I seem to remember mostly business decisions that other people simply didn't like or had negative effects for others. That's not irrational or unreasonable by definiton.

Re:Rational versus Irrational (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40608289)

Steve: DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
Steve: GET OUTTA HERE /CHAIR

Steve: GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE
Steve: I WILL SPEND EVERY DOLLAR THAT APPLE HAS TO BANKRUPT AND DESTROY GOOGLE. THEY ARE THIEVES!!!

Do I need to continue?

Rational Enough? (2)

andersh (229403) | about 2 years ago | (#40608493)

Yes, please do. Those are not very good examples, they're stories that prove that people act irrational at times. I'm not sure that qualifies as "irrational" in general. Look at their work instead of tabloid headlines.

After all, did Steve continue to throw chairs at work? Did they launch Microsoft Chairs XP? I suppose he has a temper, but how did that affect his business decisions? It does not seem to have been very detrimental? Microsoft is still pretty solid.

Steve Jobs' desire to bankrupt and destroy Google is hardly irrational, it's quite logical to want to beat your competitor(s). As for how he said it, he was a show man, was he not? Did Apple in fact spend every Dollar they had?

They're certainly "characters" we remember, but I don't think that's a bad thing.

Re:Rational Enough? (2)

mehemiah (971799) | about 2 years ago | (#40608843)

its reasonable to want to beat your competitors, its irrational to want to bankrupt and destroy them in the way it is irrational to want to stab other person in a race with you. I think that this goes for both of them.

Emotional Business (1)

andersh (229403) | about 2 years ago | (#40610577)

I don't take that kind of talk at its face value. On the other hand it was deeply personal for Jobs, what he really meant and felt is not for us to speculate about. If Jobs truly had put Apple on the line [to destroy Google], that would change things. He didn't.

Re:Rational Enough? (0)

gmhowell (26755) | about 2 years ago | (#40608899)

Parent AC probably thinks Patton was irrational because he slapped a deserter and threatened to shoot him.

Re:Rational versus Irrational (1)

doccus (2020662) | about 2 years ago | (#40616131)

Steve: DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS Steve: GET OUTTA HERE /CHAIR

Steve: GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE Steve: I WILL SPEND EVERY DOLLAR THAT APPLE HAS TO BANKRUPT AND DESTROY GOOGLE. THEY ARE THIEVES!!!

Do I need to continue?

"I WILL SPEND EVERY DOLLAR THAT MICROSOFT HAS TO BANKRUPT APPLE" er., wasn't that the latest headline? Like peas in a pod, brother...

Re:A long history of attracting nutballs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40607315)

Controversial compared to who?

Steve "Developers! Developers! Developers!' Ballmer? Careful-- or he might throw a chair at me.

Or Steve "I invented rounded boxes" Jobs? His boxes were perfect, and anyone who disagrees is just holding it wrong.

Re:A long history of attracting nutballs (2)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#40607403)

There's a lot more controversy around either Bill Gates (super villain or super philanthropist) or Steve Jobs (hippest person who ever lived, or megalomanical asshole) than anyone I can think of in the Linux community.

The Muzzies are coming (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40606699)

The Muzzies are coming, The Muzzies are coming
Everyone keep calm
They're violent and they're evil
And they mean to do us harm

Yes, but does it run Li... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40606763)

Oh wait, that's just too easy.

Quietly coming back to life.. (2)

dualboot (125004) | about 2 years ago | (#40606847)

Until we /.'d it..

Re:Quietly coming back to life.. (1)

million_monkeys (2480792) | about 2 years ago | (#40607095)

Until we /.'d it..

Do sites still get /.ed? I haven't seen it happen in a long time. I remember people used to post comments with links to mirrors so people could still see the story when the main site was down. I haven't seen that in a while either.

Re:Quietly coming back to life.. (2)

houghi (78078) | about 2 years ago | (#40607245)

Links are nowadays posted by people who are looking for traffic for the ads. Those then might link to a blog that might have the link to the original website.

Re:Quietly coming back to life.. (5, Funny)

fak3r (917687) | about 2 years ago | (#40607637)

In case the site is down, here's a mirror http://www.invitinghome.com/Mirrors/img/mirror-1534.jpg [invitinghome.com]

Re:Quietly coming back to life.. (5, Funny)

million_monkeys (2480792) | about 2 years ago | (#40607967)

In case the site is down, here's a mirror http://www.invitinghome.com/Mirrors/img/mirror-1534.jpg [invitinghome.com]

Your mirror doesn't seem to work. Either that, or I've become a vampire without realizing it.

Re:Quietly coming back to life.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40612473)

Vampires suck...

Re:Quietly coming back to life.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40645401)

ha ha ha funny! a waste of my time.

Interview (1)

vlm (69642) | about 2 years ago | (#40606895)

McLagen has not responded to requests for comments on the relaunched site.

Now that would be an epic /. interview article. Unless one of the ground rules was "the first rule about fight club is we don't talk about standard linux, err fight club"

Targeted Design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40606913)

As a technical user who uses Linux for many things, if there's one thing I've always wished more pages would have, it's a navigation bar that floats at the top of the page no matter where I scroll.

The fact that pressing Page Up and Page Down buttons to scroll ends up skipping a few lines of the page content is a nice bonus.

Re:Targeted Design (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40606967)

Why would this be useful for Linux users? They're all using Lynx, as Linux is a command-line-only OS.

Re:Targeted Design (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40607501)

Fuck you, asshole. I use telnet.

Re:Targeted Design (-1, Troll)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about 2 years ago | (#40607703)

what pot have you been smoking for the last 20 years? kde gnome android xbmc unity mate xfce cinnamon enlightement lxde none of those ring a bell?

Re:Targeted Design (5, Funny)

Penguinisto (415985) | about 2 years ago | (#40608009)

Dude - seriously, "whoosh!"

Besides, I use fread() straight off the network card to get all my website content. Doesn't everybody?

Re:Targeted Design (4, Funny)

gmhowell (26755) | about 2 years ago | (#40608925)

Dude - seriously, "whoosh!"

Besides, I use fread() straight off the network card to get all my website content. Doesn't everybody?

I hook a flashlight to the fiber link and click it on and off really fast. Network cards are for amateurs.

Re:Targeted Design (3, Funny)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#40609087)

I hook a flashlight to the fiber link and click it on and off really fast. Network cards are for amateurs

Fiber? Luxury! I pick up the telephone, dial a modem, and start making bonging noises, followed by hissing... and then a comment appears on Slashdot

Re:Targeted Design (1)

Ginger Unicorn (952287) | about 2 years ago | (#40612645)

Amateur hour. 13.7 billion years ago I created the universe with carfeully chosen initial conditions to result in this post appearing on slashdot at this precise moment.

Re:Targeted Design (2)

Ginger Unicorn (952287) | about 2 years ago | (#40612657)

But no matter how I juggled the constants, I couldn't get it to result in "carefully" being spelt correctly. So I thought fuck it, it's good enough.

Re:Targeted Design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40609441)

pff I do'nt even need a pc to browse.. I just soldered the pinouts of a PCI nic to an lcd panel controller. I use a single debounced switch to type out urls..

Re:Targeted Design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40617271)

You have a SWITCH? I touch two wires together.

Re:Targeted Design (3, Funny)

IceNinjaNine (2026774) | about 2 years ago | (#40609927)

Besides, I use fread() straight off the network card to get all my website content. Doesn't everybody?

Only in promiscuous mode, cause I'm a whore. ;)

Re:Targeted Design (1)

FrankSchwab (675585) | about 2 years ago | (#40607597)

So you don't run a javascript blocker, and this is the worst thing you've run across?
You must not frequent the kinds of sites I do....

Re:Targeted Design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40607775)

The fact that pressing Page Up and Page Down buttons to scroll ends up skipping a few lines of the page content is a nice bonus.

I think either the settings you are using for your terminal, or the terminal you are using is broken-- this is not an issue with the man command, nroff/groff, nor the pager less/more.

If you are using one of those "desktop environments" like gnome/kde that cater to windows users, try using a non f'd up terminal like xterm, to see how things are supposed to work. If using a normal window manager, you probably already are using xterm, and it is probably your settings.

As for floating bar? WTF?! You may want to look into some gui substitute for the man command. No idea, but I've heard rumors that such things exist. I think you overstate your technical credentials-- gui-ifying man will ruin its utility (make it slow, crappy, can't use from a text terminal, can't pipe its output to other commands... really, WTF?!)

Re:Targeted Design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40608203)

He was talking about web pages, not man pages.

Re:Targeted Design (1)

shiftless (410350) | about 2 years ago | (#40611869)

gui-ifying man will ruin its utility (make it slow, crappy, can't use from a text terminal, can't pipe its output to other commands... really, WTF?!)

The voice of ignorance speaks.

Re:Targeted Design (1)

NalosLayor (958307) | about 2 years ago | (#40607837)

I'd like to meet the web developer who spent several days re-implementing the frame set in javascript. It's probably on his resume and everything!

Re:Targeted Design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40608721)

you mean the kind that hover, obscuring the content with their laggy 'rubber band' sfx while scrolling? yuck.

Uh... (0)

interval1066 (668936) | about 2 years ago | (#40607129)

...yawn.

Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40607203)

Site like howtoforge [howtoforge.com] nixcraft [cyberciti.biz] and Linux foundation [linux.com] (official site of Linux) and others have done a great job. On other hand Q and A site like serverfault is a great for *nix problem. Why bother about linux.org? Just go to google and search..

Controversial? (3, Interesting)

poet (8021) | about 2 years ago | (#40607309)

Good lord.. since when... oh the 90s.... which were.... over a decade ago.

Follow the bouncing ball: (3, Funny)

fak3r (917687) | about 2 years ago | (#40607611)

http://www.linux.org/ [linux.org] -> http://twitter.com/LinuxDotOrg [twitter.com] -> http://twitter.com/rlsteelman/status/197909427179884544 [twitter.com] -> http://twitter.com/@rlsteelman [twitter.com] (Ronald Steelman) -> http://www.ronaldsteelman.com/ [ronaldsteelman.com]

"Welcome to CodeIgniter! The page you are looking at is being generated dynamically by CodeIgniter. If you would like to edit this page you'll find it located at: application/views/welcome_message.php"

Maybe his first article should be about setting up a site with CodeIgniter...or not!

Nostalgic impulse (1)

wrencherd (865833) | about 2 years ago | (#40607653)

It does make a person want to start dual-booting again.

Requires Facebook to login? (1)

Qubit (100461) | about 2 years ago | (#40607695)

It does say that it's an "alpha release", so perhaps we'll see local accounts or OpenID login in the future. Requiring a Facebook account to login to linux.org seems like it might alienate a number of people.

venerable linux.org site (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40607897)

Is the site notable for anything else than the highly sought for domain name?

Open source can't be hacked (3, Insightful)

hawguy (1600213) | about 2 years ago | (#40608677)

I love the "testimonial" in the Latest News box from Pivatejetscharter.com that sounds like it was written by a Linux marketing specialist:

http://www.linux.org/article/view/privatejetscharter-net-why-we-love-linux [linux.org]

Open Source software gave us an extra level of security and speed that just wasn’t available through proprietary software. Our website has unique demands and we designed customized security for it that we are constantly changing and updating. Unlike static proprietary software that can be studied and then hacked in mass, attacking unique open source sites just isn’t profitable and it is much more difficult.

Proprietary software is static and easily studied and hacked. Open source sites are unique and can't be hacked in mass.

facebook login only (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40608759)

sorry, but this site is ASS. anything to do with facebook is ASS.. slashdot is guilty of this as well.

Re:facebook login only (1)

IceNinjaNine (2026774) | about 2 years ago | (#40609937)

Bitter much?
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