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Melinda Gates Pledges $560 Million For Contraception

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the greater-good dept.

Medicine 451

theodp writes "Melinda Gates has pledged $560 million as part of a campaign to expand access to contraception for women. From the article: 'The funding commitment was unveiled on Wednesday at the London Summit on Family Planning alongside pledges totaling $4.3 billion from the British government and leaders from African nations wrestling with the health and social problems brought on by high rates of unplanned pregnancy.'"

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Buying Windows does some good in the world! (5, Insightful)

Art Popp (29075) | about 2 years ago | (#40625491)

Kidding aside.

She and her husband continue to show the best side of capitalism. For those that assume that wealth necessarily leads to avarice, it's delightful to me to see the Gates Foundation making that case more difficult to prove.

To hear her explain the contraception issue:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/415947/june-27-2012/melinda-gates [colbertnation.com]

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625523)

She and her husband continue to show the best side of capitalism.

...and the best side of marketing.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625599)

They've made their tens of billions of dollars and essentially retired to spend the rest of their lives giving away billions of dollars. Exactly what marketing do they need and what for?

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (5, Insightful)

ACTA sucks (2682615) | about 2 years ago | (#40625611)

What marketing does Bill and Melinda Gates need? It's not like they're marketing for Microsoft - they're giving away their own money to help the world. Could you be any more selfish and bitter? What do you do for the good of the world?

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626077)

If someone abuses you for more than a decade, then gets all sweet and loving... it is not time to forgive and cherish them.

captcha: enabler

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (2)

ACTA sucks (2682615) | about 2 years ago | (#40626111)

If someone abuses you for more than a decade, then gets all sweet and loving... it is not time to forgive and cherish them.

captcha: enabler

Actually, it is. Forgiveness is exactly what good people do and it's taught by bible and other ancient guidelines. Likewise, you should give people second changes and even more. In real life this can be hard but it's something you should try to do.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626201)

> Forgiveness ... it's taught by bible

No it isnt. The whole _point_ of christianity is blood sacrifice of Jesus to _atone_ for humankind's sins, because god refuses to simply forgive them.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626191)

Show me on the doll, where big bad Bill Gates touched you..

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (5, Insightful)

geekymachoman (1261484) | about 2 years ago | (#40626155)

What marketing does Bill and Melinda Gates need? It's not like they're marketing for Microsoft - they're giving away their own money to help the world. Could you be any more selfish and bitter? What do you do for the good of the world?

And if you think that the only way to do good for the world is with money(seems there are entire cultures based on this - money is your god idea), then no wonder this planet's becoming a shit hole.
What happened to just being good to each other, self sacrifice.. about actually "giving" and caring for people ? Maybe the guy you said this to is doing exactly that, but I guess that doesn't count in your eyes, yes ?

There are many ways in which you can do good.
Don't fall for strict left/right, good/bad, good guys/bad guys philosophy of thinking. Everything matters. The only difference between us is that some people may do more to help, while other less, but that doesn't mean anything. We're collectively evolving and we're in a same boat, each every one of us.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (4, Insightful)

Rockoon (1252108) | about 2 years ago | (#40625847)

The best marketing half a billion dollars can buy?

Take the tinfoil off.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625579)

She and her husband continue to show the best side of capitalism.

Err, it's not capitalism at all. It's charity. Charity is a bandaid over the wounds of capitalism.

Of course it's better to do this than to squander the money, just as it's right to help up a man who keeps falling over. But you're still treating the symptom, not the cause.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (4, Funny)

ciderbrew (1860166) | about 2 years ago | (#40625869)

Erm - I don't think not fucking is going to happen. The cause is for most normal people, immutable.
My TAX money is going towards this. One part of me asks why I have to support this. But the even louder part says, could I really ask as a guy not to fuck because he lives in a poor place with no chance of getting out. Fucking is the only free fun he has. If I have to pay the price of a beer once a year so some people can fuck and not die then I'm really ok with that.
Here have two beers and fuck her one from me.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (1)

ACTA sucks (2682615) | about 2 years ago | (#40626129)

I don't think people on Slashdot understand why you're talking about not fucking. That's normal day for everyone. Try car analogy.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (2)

ciderbrew (1860166) | about 2 years ago | (#40626159)

:) People with no shoes and money get more pussy than guys on /. - maybe the 3rd world should be sending some help this way,

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (2)

elp (45629) | about 2 years ago | (#40625949)

And the solution to capitalism is?

I keep hearing "OMG capitalism is teh evil!", but I've yet to hear of an alternative that's even half way plausible. Humans are by nature greedy and lazy.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625965)

Humans are by nature generous and loving. At least, most of the ones I know are.

It really depends which traits you promote and which traits you repress, and who you choose to associate with. The underlying motivation for any particular regime is self-fulfilling.

Anyway, we haven't really had capitalism since the 1920s - it failed long before the Soviet experiment.

The solution is probably a balance. Certainly everything which says "X is the only way!" - e.g. "the free market is the only way!" - is wrong.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626031)

Generous and loving, right up to the point where numero uno is threatened. At which point they turn selfish.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (2)

Nursie (632944) | about 2 years ago | (#40626085)

That's because it's very much like current democracy - it's the worst system except for all the others we've come up with.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (3, Funny)

lightknight (213164) | about 2 years ago | (#40625607)

I know, it's crazy. The Gates's ability to avoid corruption, with that much power, is a skill I am envious of.

It's like putting a man on the moon. Our kids are going to think it's all fake.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (1)

Chrisq (894406) | about 2 years ago | (#40625765)

I know, it's crazy. The Gates's ability to avoid corruption, with that much power, is a skill I am envious of.

Hey, is that you David Cameron?

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625817)

Kidding aside.

She and her husband continue to show the best side of capitalism.

Which side is that? The one about a small group of people deciding what to do with wealth that's being produced by the work of a large group of people?

I'm pretty sure most slave owners had some good gesture at one point in their lives, just as the feudal lords, the kings, and the dictators all over human history.

I'm sorry but I'm disgusted by your comment as I would be by a slave commenting about the best side of slave ownership being when the owner allows some of the slaves to have a free evening for christmas.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626213)

Fuck off. What is wrong with people like you?

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625901)

She and her husband continue to show the best side of capitalism.

Hmm, I tend to think capitalism is at it's best at a small scale where there are minimal power imbalances (asymmetry in information, wealth, etc.) - for example, a regular customer at a small family restaurant: in that case, capitalism essentially provides both a framework and an incentive for both parties to be nice to each other.

On the other hand, I'm not quite sure what charity has to do with capitalism - unless the idea is that pure capitalism inevitably results in massive wealth inequality (i.e. poverty) which then creates a need for charity.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (1)

dwywit (1109409) | about 2 years ago | (#40626165)

Hey - don't be an AC! I don't waste mod points on ACs, and you deserve a +1.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (0)

jez9999 (618189) | about 2 years ago | (#40625951)

She and her husband continue to show the best side of capitalism.

I hate to piss on the parade, but it's just a shame she's a practising Catholic. Her "most revered" figure thinks condoms are evil. Kind of clashes with her message.

Catholic != papist (3, Interesting)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | about 2 years ago | (#40626003)

Where to start? The Catholic Church is not a public company with a board of directors and a CEO, though the management tries to treat it like one. It is technically the "ekklesia", the community of believers who were called out by Jesus to bear witness to his teachings. If (as is actually the case) the majority of individual Catholics ignore the Pope on a range of issues, that just shows that the leadership is out of touch; seriously, Ratzinger isn't in a position to fire all the people who disagree with him, though it would be funny if he tried.

The greatest theologian of the Catholic Church, Hans Kung, is barred from teaching doctrine by the same Ratzinger. In effect, Catholic thought has been hijacked by a relatively small clique of backward authority figures. You could say the same thing about the British Conservative Party and the Church of England. Comment on the USA would be superfluous, as HuffPost does a rather thorough job. Eventually, Popes die.

The point is that Melinda Gates is more typical of Catholics than is the Pope, and Hans Kung articulates the beliefs of educated Catholics far better than Ratzinger's entire hierarchy. It is the Pope that needs to go into unearned retirement.

And, for information, I'm a kind of atheist. I just think that clear thinking about what goes on in religions is much better than simple name calling.

Re:Buying Windows does some good in the world! (1, Flamebait)

Tom (822) | about 2 years ago | (#40626151)

You're a fucking moron. I'm seriously angry.

Robber barons have long played this scam, and there are still people falling for it? You're probably also a friend of drug trade, forced prostitution and shooting people, because the Mafia is known to support the local churches and in the USA the italian communities, yes?

Gates' riches are ill-gotten. That a large part of them is now given to charity is a PR stunt, but most importantly, it does not offset the damage, because monopoly rent causes more damage than it generates in profit for the monopolist.

The "look, our robber baron has turned philanthrop, all hail him" mentality is the same stupidity that still believes in "trickle down", even though it's been shown not to work for decades.
And poor people actually give more to charity than wealthy people [deseretnews.com]. So it stands to argue that if all those billions hadn't been robbed through monopoly rent from the general public, as much or more of it would have ended up going to charity.

The Gates aren't heroes, you moron. They robbed your farm and slaughtered your pigs and you applaud them for donating your goat to the poor neighbours down the road? They "show the best side of capitalism" in the same sense that the mafia don who donates to his local church shows the best side of organized crime.

Gates for the win! (1, Insightful)

Buccaneer Waggerstrm (2682059) | about 2 years ago | (#40625497)

This just shows the Gates family commitment to helping the world. Great job Melinda, slashdot appreciates your efforts!

Re:Gates for the win! (1)

Higgs Bosun (2676655) | about 2 years ago | (#40625879)

slashdot appreciates your efforts!

Say what? How would the typical /. reader appreciate women having easy access to contraception!?

(yeah yeah, someone has to write it).

I hate her now (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625513)

she is not so good person after all... son of b...!!

Re:I hate her now (2)

ACTA sucks (2682615) | about 2 years ago | (#40625625)

You hate her because she supports persons right to decide over his or her own body?

Re:I hate her now (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625681)

an unborn human is a diferent human

Re:I hate her now (1)

ACTA sucks (2682615) | about 2 years ago | (#40625757)

How far you should go with that? Are you launching little babies on the toilet paper every time you wank? Are you killing people when you... sorry, some woman chooses not to have sex with you?

Re:I hate her now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625843)

Even better than that. How about menstruation? Its one dead egg cell each time it happens. Women should have sex every time to make sure all of them develop into children. The biggest problem is that that makes only 1 of the sperms become a human. All the others are killing humans... Hmm, you know what, fuck it, I am going to kill some unborn humans.

Re:I hate her now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626009)

I repeat: In that case there is not conception. You have a different ADN from the conception.

Re:I hate her now (1, Interesting)

johnsnails (1715452) | about 2 years ago | (#40625863)

There is a big difference between wanking in the toilet n aborting a baby. No matter your position on the topic, so no that's not what was said or suggested. Unborn women have rights too don't they?

Re:I hate her now (3, Insightful)

clemdoc (624639) | about 2 years ago | (#40625883)

contraception != abortion.
I know, it's very difficult to understand the difference, but trust me, there is one...

Re:I hate her now (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626069)

ok, it's different, I know it, but the problem is what Melinda Gates donated millons of dollars to Family Planning Association:
http://www.fpa.org.uk/campaignsandadvocacy/london-family-planning-summit

and Family Planning Association support the abortion movement:
http://www.fpa.org.uk/campaignsandadvocacy/reproductiverights

thats why I think that it's terrible what Melinda Gates did.

Re:I hate her now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625929)

No, they don't. And the only differences are completely arbitrary.

Re:I hate her now (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626033)

but the problem is what Melinda Gates donated millons of dollars to Family Planning Association:
http://www.fpa.org.uk/campaignsandadvocacy/london-family-planning-summit

and Family Planning Association support the abortion movement:
http://www.fpa.org.uk/campaignsandadvocacy/reproductiverights

thats why I think that it's terrible what Melinda Gates did.

Re:I hate her now (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625941)

> There is a big difference between wanking in the toilet n aborting a baby.

But we arent even talking about a "baby" because in the early weeks of pregnancy, there is no baby. There is a big difference between a bunch of cells that have the potential to grow into a baby and an already grown up baby.

I know that it is hard to draw an arbitrary line, but a line has to be drawn _somewhere_, since pretending that a single fertilized egg is the same as a living, breathing, feeling human baby is ridiculous.

Re:I hate her now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625885)

With a wank there is not conception. You have an different ADN from the conception.

Re:I hate her now (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625781)

Its unborn. A unmade car is a bunch of metal and so on. It could form a car, but in its current state you can turn that key in the contact as much as you wish, it will not drive.
If I have to chose between the right of a human that lives or the right of a human that does not (yet), I will give the one that lives the right. There is one huge problem with all anti abortion faggots, and its that they campaign for the wrong fucking thing. If you want to stop abortions, stop unwanted pregnancies.

Re:I hate her now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625943)

If you don't have arms and legs, you continue being a human

Re:I hate her now (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626209)

A typical Slashdotter. How pathetic. "a human that does not (yet)".

Obviously you're still a virgin, and have no understanding of what an unborn baby goes through - how big of you! You idiot.

"stop unwanted pregnancies".

And how are those of us who are against abortion supposed to do that? Most abortions are BIRTH CONTROL - i.e. the stupid women get themselves pregnant 'by accident' (yeah right, I believe you), and then kill their own babies in order to get out of it.

WHY are so many women getting pregnant "by accident"? Did you stop to think about that? It's nothing to do with a lack of contraceptives, it's to do with an increase in the dysgenic mass of selfish, worthless SCUM, who are destroying this planet by their very existence. Selfish, stupid women will have sex with violent, selfish men, who can't maintain erections while wearing condoms, and thus the women eventually get pregnant "by accident".

The problem lies with women - they choose to sleep with losers who can't maintain erections with a condom on.

Re:I hate her now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625833)

No. it isn't.

Just as an unbuilt building is not a building and an unwritten book is not a book.

Re:I hate her now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625989)

I repeat: If you don't have arms and legs and you are in a coma, you continue being a human

Re:I hate her now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626011)

And an acorn is not an oak.

I don't care. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625553)

I still won't have sex with her. It's STILL not enough protection.

idk how she didn't get the microsoft eye candy upgrades like everything else....

Re:I don't care. (0)

BurstElement (1332791) | about 2 years ago | (#40625707)

Lol... I clicked on the article and the first thing I thought (based on the picture) was Melinda Gates = Chloe from Fight Club.

Narrator: Oh, yeah, Chloe... Chloe looked the way Meryl Streep's skeleton would look if you made it smile and walk around the party being extra nice to everybody.
Chloe: Well, I'm still here. But I don't know for how long. That's as much certainty as anyone can give me. But I've got some good news: I no longer have any fear of death. But... I am in a pretty lonely place. No one will have sex with me. I'm so close to the end, and all I want is to get laid for the last time. I have pornographic movies in my apartment, and lubricants, and amyl nitrite...
[the group leader takes the mic]

Will she start with America? (3, Insightful)

able1234au (995975) | about 2 years ago | (#40625631)

... breaking down the religious monopoly on this discussion? Abstinence has been shown to not work, yet it plays to the religious agenda

False (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625719)

" Abstinence has been shown to not work"

Actually abstinence has been shown to work 100%. There is no instance of a woman not having sex getting pregnant.

Re:False (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625771)

There is no stopping the physical and psychological needs of horny teenagers. They are going to do it with or with out a condom. wouldn't you rather give them the option??

Re:False (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625827)

There is this one time that is written down in some book.

Re:False (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625979)

I think he meant that adopting abstinence as a policy fo
***WOOOOOSH***
Wtf was that?!

She is not a good person after all. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625633)

She is not a good person after all.

Her solution for the problems of the world: kill humans. It's terrible, because there is people asking job and food, and she worry about kill humans before they have rights.

That is not charity and it's not ethical!

Re:She is not a good person after all. (4, Informative)

bloodhawk (813939) | about 2 years ago | (#40625665)

The sad thing is you're probably serious and worse yet there are plenty of nutjobs in the world that support your view. This charitable donation is a big step forward for the affected people and is definitely a step towards clawing their way out of poverty.

Re:She is not a good person after all. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625723)

That's not charity. Build scholls for poor people is charity, give food to poor people is charity, so you can not compare a real charity action with that support the abortion movement.

Re:She is not a good person after all. (2)

bloodhawk (813939) | about 2 years ago | (#40626065)

What has this got to do with abortion or the support of it??? She is donating money for contraception

Re:She is not a good person after all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626107)

Read the full article:

Melinda Gates donated millons of dollars to Family Planning Association:
http://www.fpa.org.uk/campaignsandadvocacy/london-family-planning-summit

And Family Planning Association support the abortion movement:
http://www.fpa.org.uk/campaignsandadvocacy/reproductiverights

Re:She is not a good person after all. (1)

johnsnails (1715452) | about 2 years ago | (#40625891)

I didn't read the article.... but obviously contraceptives are good. But quite arguably abortion is not. Certainly not after a certain time... trimesters are a useful way of specifying what stages of development have probably taken place but does not scientifically prove when an unborn child starts having a right to live that overrides the mothers right to choice.

Re:She is not a good person after all. (5, Insightful)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 2 years ago | (#40625709)

You appear to be confusing contraception with abortion. While abortion is an issue still much debated, the ethics of contraception are more-or-less settled now for everyone except the Catholic church and a few other religious groups, and even they don't equate it with murder.

Re:She is not a good person after all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625829)

Melinda Gates donated millons of dollars to Family Planning Association:
http://www.fpa.org.uk/campaignsandadvocacy/london-family-planning-summit

And Family Planning Association support the abortion movement:
http://www.fpa.org.uk/campaignsandadvocacy/reproductiverights

Re:She is not a good person after all. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626125)

That is quite a lose chain.

It is akin to me saying you support baby killing because Slashdot made ad revenue from you visiting this page and some of the people employed for Slashdot have donated to Planned Parenthood.

See there is the proof. You are a baby killer! You are sick, disgusting person for supporting the murder of innocent children!

AC Self reply (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626157)

Okay I'm sorry. In my EWD (excessive waffle delirium) I thought it would be a good idea to watch FoxNews for a laugh.

Re:She is not a good person after all. (2)

bmo (77928) | about 2 years ago | (#40625823)

>Her solution for the problems of the world: kill humans. It's terrible, because there is people asking job and food, and she worry about kill humans before they have rights.

Every sperm is sacred, right mate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8 [youtube.com]

--
BMO

Re:She is not a good person after all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626091)

In that case there is not conception. You have an different ADN from the conception.

ADN? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626211)

You don't make any sense but I don't know what ADN means. So I looked it up. It didn't help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADN

ADN is a three-letter acronym that may refer to:

        Adobe Digital Negative (file format), a raw image format designed by Adobe Systems
        Application Delivery Network, a suite of technologies for improved delivery of applications across the Internet
        Autodesk Developer Network, a program for developers working with Autodesk software
        Aircraft Data Network, a proposed specification for data networking standards for commercial aircraft installations
        Advanced Digital Network, a leased 56k digital phone line used commonly with mainframe terminal multiplexers

        Auditory Disability with Normal hearing, a term for King-Kopetzky syndrome
        Ammonium dinitramide, a rocket propellant

        Acción Democrática Nacionalista (Nationalist Democratic Action), a political party of Bolivia
        Alleanza Democratica Nazionale (National Democratic Alliance (Italy)), a former political party of Italy

        Allgemeiner Deutscher Nachrichtendienst, the state news agency of East Germany
        Anchorage Daily News, an Alaskan newspaper
        ADN (newspaper), a Spanish free daily newspaper

        Associate Degree in Nursing, similar to Associate of Science in Nursing
        Assistant Director of Nursing

        Abbreviated dialing number
        ADN, IATA airport code for Andes Airport in Andes, Antioquia, Colombia
        ADN, National Rail code for Ardrossan Town railway station, United Kingdom
        "Any Day Now", as abbreviated in text messaging

        Ashley, Drew and Northern Railway, a defunct railroad in Arkansas

Making new kinds of rocket fuel every time I have a kid seems fun though.

Re:She is not a good person after all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626149)

She is not a good person after all.

Her solution for the problems of the world: kill humans. It's terrible, because there is people asking job and food, and she worry about kill humans before they have rights.

That is not charity and it's not ethical!

Don't worry, they're only *brown* humans so they're not really wanted.

Philanthropy (4, Insightful)

dark grep (766587) | about 2 years ago | (#40625653)

Many may well consider such acts of philanthropy completely altruistic. Whether you agree with the cause or not, only the most cynical of people would view it as 'marketing' or 'self promotion', and even if it actually is that; so what? The people who will benefit from it wont care - it doesn't matter what the motivation for doing it is, the end result is what is important.

Personally, I think the motivation is truly altruistic and comes from a genuine desire to do good in the world. The point I would make is; anyone 'richer than God' is going to acquire the same philosophy. Why are mega rich people altruistic? Because they can be. When every conceivable want and desire is met, what is left but to be generous to your fellow man?

I for one would welcome the opportunity to do exactly that myself. If only I had some software I could sell to IBM.

Re:Philanthropy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625881)

HAHAHAHAHHAAHAaaaa yeah go on believing that Gina Rinehart, soon to be the world's richest person is Altruistic, You're Dreaming Mate.

Re:Philanthropy (1)

geekmux (1040042) | about 2 years ago | (#40626015)

Many may well consider such acts of philanthropy completely altruistic. Whether you agree with the cause or not, only the most cynical of people would view it as 'marketing' or 'self promotion'...

...or simply a very wise business decision as a tax shelter. Am I cynical, or am I simply recognizing the most obvious benefit of philanthropy?

Regardless, your latter point stands. People will benefit from this. Many, many people, and that is ultimately what counts.

Re:Philanthropy (1)

Tom (822) | about 2 years ago | (#40626189)

If you are right about the tax shelter, though, part of the Gates charity bill will be footed by you because those missing taxes have to come from somewhere. Guess who that's going to be.

Re:Philanthropy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626103)

Kantian ethics would say that philanthropy needs to be done due to your moral duty and that if you try gain anything from it (pride, happiness, inner peace, heaven, etc.) then you are behaving immorally. Thus, it is beyond belief that any corporation or church could ever be altruistic and moral at the same time. Only individuals who have a deep sense of duty to their fellow human beings could ever be altruistic and moral.

To summarize, if the goal of philanthropy is the individual you are helping, then it is moral. If the goal is something you gain from it then it is immoral. Human beings must be the ends and not the means to an end.

Re:Philanthropy (1)

dgym (584252) | about 2 years ago | (#40626137)

It isn't just the end result that is important, it is also the means.

Would we celebrate bank robbers, drug dealers and fraudsters if they were to spend a little of their money on charity? No we wouldn't because that money was gained as the result of illegal and immoral actions.

While Gates was running Microsoft it was found guilty of abusing its desktop monopoly to take out competition in other markets. Arguably their dominant and stagnant position has set back the computing industry many years. Significant amounts of money were made as the result of illegal and immoral actions taken while Mr. Gates was running the show, and this has cost society. Giving a little back now doesn't make it alright.

Re:Philanthropy (0)

Tom (822) | about 2 years ago | (#40626177)

Why are mega rich people altruistic? Because they can be.

Everyone can be. In fact, studies have shown (I just posted a link in another comment) that the poor are generally more altruistic than the rich.

So, based on the numbers in that article, if the money that Gates made had instead been made by the 99%, twice as much would've gone to charity.

So your point was?

$560M? That's a lot of f*cking (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625673)

Not a lot of f*cking money, just a lot of f*cking

What a farce? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625703)

Do you really "all" believe that this is philanthropy?

IT IS KILLING GOD'S CHILDREN !! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625733)

And the Pope has a lot more money than she does !! And at least I've seen the Pope !! And he's got a better army !! Let the warring begin !!

Re:IT IS KILLING GOD'S CHILDREN !! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625795)

How Many Divisions Does the Pope Have?

And the church is morally bankrupt. Having a pedophile supporting pope is hopefully the final nail in its coffin on its long overdue death.

Re:IT IS KILLING GOD'S CHILDREN !! (1)

Stormthirst (66538) | about 2 years ago | (#40626025)

The church was morally bankrupt centuries ago. Just the latest incarnation (pun intended) is better highlighted thanks to world news coverage

A Notable Omission (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625807)

Please note the absence of Bill Gates' name from this project.

Re:A Notable Omission (1)

Stormthirst (66538) | about 2 years ago | (#40626037)

Why is that notable exactly?

Bill Gates and Melinda Gates aren't joined at the hip! Or are you telling me that she's not allowed to do something with the money that's legitimately hers, because she's a woman?

What would YOU do? (3, Interesting)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about 2 years ago | (#40625921)

I'm no fan of abortion for controlling overpopulation, so birth control is the lesser of two evils. To their credit, the Gate's are being pro-human with their fortune, and I wonder what I would do in their position. Do I build bridges, dig wells, hand out laptops? Money/food/supplies sent to poor countries never seems to get to the people in need, getting stolen by corrupt local officials somewhere along the distribution line. So, if you were in the Gate's position, how would YOU spend your money for the common good?

Re:What would YOU do? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626135)

If I was a world dictator, I would ban car seatbelts, they are a sin and encourage reckless driving. The only solution against car crashes is abstaining.

Re:What would YOU do? (4, Insightful)

Tom (822) | about 2 years ago | (#40626167)

So, if you were in the Gate's position, how would YOU spend your money for the common good?

Give it back to the people I stole it from through monopoly rent and hope that at least some of the additional damage I've done to the economy can still be undone.

Do Economy 101 again and listen carefully on the part about monopolies.

Re:What would YOU do? (3, Insightful)

u38cg (607297) | about 2 years ago | (#40626183)

I'd spend it on institutional development. Fund anti-bribery agencies, pay for policy development in countries that can't afford it, endow independent newspapers, fund education abroad for future leaders. In short, give countries the tools to create the structures that allow real economic development.

why did she donate this money? (0, Troll)

rh775 (963558) | about 2 years ago | (#40625927)

Fine, any money is good. But this doesn't "give capitalism a heart" or "human face" as some people seem to suggest. Often these types of donations are done to avoid taxes or act as leverage when investing in other regional markets /commodities. We are talking about capitalists here, self interest is king.

Re:why did she donate this money? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626173)

Or maybe they just think it's the right thing to do and you are an asshole. You decide.

Pretty stiff price, if you ask me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625971)

I heard the religious right was a really strong force in the US, but really, having to pay $560 million just to get some contraception seems to me to be a bit exaggerated, no?

Anyway, anything which prevents the Gates' genes from spreading further is a good cause. Glad to see they're still keeping up the good work!

selfish gene (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625977)

I'd like to suggest "The Selfish Gene" as a possible explanation to this altruistic behaviour and to other gates foundation endeavors.

Better than another kid from Bill, I presume. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40625997)

I can type more than that for my comment.

Why don't the MEN wear condoms? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40626007)

The pill doesn't stop STDs, does it?
Why are the MEN not wearing condoms, then? Why are women sleeping with men who don't care about them enough to even wear a condom?

Why are MOST women attracted to violent, uncaring men?

If MOST women were attracted to caring, kind men, then that's exactly what most men would become, overnight...

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