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Apple Releases iOS 6 Beta 3 For Developers

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the brand-spanking-new dept.

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hypnosec writes "Developers of iOS apps have been blessed with another update to iOS 6 around 21 days after an update of the iOS 5 successor was doled out and it contains quite a few new features. The 3rd update, dubbed iOS 6 Beta 3, can now be applied to the existing iOS on iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch and full downloads are available from Apple's developer portal. MacRumours notes that this update doesn't come with any change list and developers seeing the over the air update get the message that iOS 6 Beta 3 contains some 'bug fixes and improvement.' The latest build contains new options under the Settings application for Apple's latest Maps software. The beta allows developers to customize certain aspects like the volume of turn-by-turn navigation, and whether to measure distances in miles or kilometers, notes Apple Insider."

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Still? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666203)

So, does it have feature parity with Froyo yet? Froyo as in the version of Android released 2 years ago. Pathetic.

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666221)

Yup. iOS outdid Froyo 2 years ago too.

Re:Still? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666263)

Stop lying to yourself. Does iOS even multi-task for real yet? No? What a piece of shit.

Re:Still? (2, Interesting)

MachDelta (704883) | about 2 years ago | (#40666795)

Android doesn't multitask apps "for real" either, just services. Which is fine because a phone wouldn't really work well with multiple tiny windows.

Re:Still? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666857)

Android doesn't multitask apps "for real" either, just services.

Bullshit, stupid. You can make use of services to run threads in the background if you want but you don't have to. And unless the developer explicitely overrides the Android lifecycle methods like onPause(), onResume(), etc. your app will keep right on running in the background even if you bring something else up. Please actually know what you are talking about next time before you bring your ignorance.

Re:Still? (2)

MachDelta (704883) | about 2 years ago | (#40666985)

Any process sent to the background has the kernel's sword of damocles hanging over it at all times - it can be killed instantly and without warning if android decides it needs the resources. That's not "for real" multitasking in my book. Android does a pretty good impression of multitasking, but it's not the same as a desktop OS. Its still my phone OS of choice, fwiw.

Re:Still? (2)

oakgrove (845019) | about 2 years ago | (#40667111)

Any process sent to the background has the kernel's sword of damocles hanging over it at all times - it can be killed instantly and without warning if android decides it needs the resources.

Well, the only real alternative to that is the entire device crashes with an OOM error. I think I would prefer the app itself to crash as at least that is going to happen either way.

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666863)

Yes the very first iPhone multi-tasked. You could browse the web at the same time as playing music on your iPhone. What it doesn't allow is apps that you aren't using from drawing the battery.

Re:Still? (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#40666931)

There is a difference between "app is not in the foreground" and "app is not performing some useful task".

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666945)

I don't find draining my battery a useful task.

Re:Still? (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#40666979)

If you can't think of any app that can do something useful in background other than draining battery, you have a seriously impaired imagination (and must have never used a real computer in your life). To give a specific example, my smartphone can torrent more videos in background while I'm watching one; can yours?

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666995)

Yes it can download a movie from iTune while watching a different movie. But even better than that, I can download it on my computer while watching a movie on my phone so I don't waste the battery.

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40667043)

Yes it can download a movie from iTune while watching a different movie.

He said torrent not iTunes.

But even better than that, I can download it on my computer while watching a movie on my phone so I don't waste the battery.

Any smartphone practically can play something downloaded on the computer. And when everything is all planned out that's great but life happens and sometimes I'm out and about away from my computer and I want to watch something specific. iTunes on my desktop isn't helping me there.

Re:Still? (1)

jsdcnet (724314) | about 2 years ago | (#40667177)

Any smartphone practically can play something downloaded on the computer. And when everything is all planned out that's great but life happens and sometimes I'm out and about away from my computer and I want to watch something specific. iTunes on my desktop isn't helping me there.

You can download music, videos, apps from the iTunes store on the phone while out and about. You don't need to be connected to a computer. Remember the whole "PC Free" thing Apple was promoting last year? You don't really need to connect an iDevice to a desktop ever any more.

Re:Still? (2)

Antarell (930241) | about 2 years ago | (#40667257)

He said torrent not iTunes.

And the difference is? The phone is still acquiring new content in the background while playing existing content in the foreground. It's just using different apps/methods. I would hate to think what torrents would do to your battery with the amount of CPU/networking effort required vs iTunes which is simple HTTP.

Re:Still? (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#40667271)

The obvious difference is that you can only download what is available on iTunes. Which is a far more limited selection compared to what's available elsewhere (and specifically via torrents).

It's the main problem with Apple's "PC free" vision - unfortunately, it's only that if you relegate yourself to Apple services exclusively. Everything else is subpar at best (like how you can't purchase books from the Kindle app), and not possible or not allowed at worst (like torrents).

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40667443)

The obvious difference is that you can only download what is available on iTunes. Which is a far more Legal selection compared to what's available elsewhere (and specifically via torrents).

Fixed that for you.

Re:Still? (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#40667513)

If you are so keen on legality, substitute "torrents" in all my comments above with the name of any alternative online video service that permits downloading videos legally - for example, Amazon Instant Video. The point still stands.

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40667639)

If you are so keen on legality, substitute "torrents" in all my comments above with the name of any alternative online video service that permits downloading videos legally - for example, Amazon Instant Video. The point still stands.

Except for selection.

Re:Still? (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#40667673)

Selection still applies, you just need to broaden the criteria - I have Amazon Prime subscription, which gives me (among other benefits, which I also rely on) access to a lot of content for free on AIV that I would have to pay for on iTunes. Why would I want to, effectively, purchase the same content twice just so that my device can download it in background?

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40667733)

Because it's not "free". You had you pay for an Amazon Prime subscription. Once you buy something on iTunes you own it forever.

Re:Still? (2)

Grudge2012 (2662391) | about 2 years ago | (#40667653)

So this discussion is actually about pirating movies, not about multitasking.

Re:Still? (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#40667735)

No, this discussion is about multitasking, with torrents as a specific example. There are many others, but apparently (judging by the fact that yours is a third reply trying to derail the discussion in exact same way), users of Apple devices just can't comprehend what multitasking is. I'm forced to conclude that there is some surgical procedure performed on the brain of those unfortunate who wander into Apple Stores before they are allowed to part with their money to ensure that they don't ever devise a usage scenario that runs into the feature limitations of iOS.

Getting back ontopic, substitute "torrents" with "Amazon Instant Video", and try to address the salient point of my post.

Re:Still? (1)

gutnor (872759) | about 2 years ago | (#40667611)

Is torrenting video the best example you can come up with ? That is like, a hood extractor in the kitchen is great to smoke without getting the pot smell all around the house.

Re:Still? (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#40667627)

I have already replied to another guy who thinks that he can pick apart my argument by latching onto "illegality" of torrents instead of acknowledging the issue. I refuse to be sidetracked in that manner, so go ahead and replace all mentions of torrents in my post above with Amazon Instant Video, and try to address the actual points that it makes.

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40667695)

No your argument is that iOS can't multi task this has be proven wrong.

Re:Still? (3, Informative)

TummyX (84871) | about 2 years ago | (#40667297)

iOS has always been a fully preemptive multitasking operating system. It's just whether the app has permission to run as such and Apple have some very stringent requirements to ensure a good user experience and acceptable battery life. There are no technical reasons why iOS should not be considered to not be a multitasking OS. For example, if your app plays music, it can continue to do everything whilst running in the background. Of course, if you do too much non music playback related stuff apple may not accept your app in the AppStore.

Re:Still? (2)

SomePgmr (2021234) | about 2 years ago | (#40666313)

Froyo? We'll tell you when Samsung and AT&T get around to releasing it. ;)

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666407)

The top selling Samsung and At&t Android phones are multiple generations ahead of Froyo. The phone I'm using now which is a Samsung phone that you can get from At&t has jellybean which was just announced less than a month ago. Get with the times, grandpa.

Re:Still? (4, Funny)

the_B0fh (208483) | about 2 years ago | (#40666491)

No wonder you had to post as AC. Samsung have not released any JellyBean phones yet. Liar liar, phone on fire

(ok, ok, you had to microwave it first...)

Re:Still? (1)

Tough Love (215404) | about 2 years ago | (#40666543)

Jelly Bean is already available on multiple devices [theandroidsoul.com] including Samsung models.

There, go ahead and try to spin that as a negative.

Re:Still? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666659)

I would say it's idiotic to start running CM10 nightlies at this point, but then it's also not a great idea to run the iOS6 beta either if you're looking for your phone to actually work reliably, so there you go.

Can both crowds just agree to disagree? Why don't you both start making fun of Windows Phone; you'll find some common ground there.

Re:Still? (1)

Tough Love (215404) | about 2 years ago | (#40666677)

Why don't you both start making fun of Windows Phone; you'll find some common ground there.

Both Windows Phone and iOS are good for light comic relief, what's your bias?

Re:Still? (1)

oakgrove (845019) | about 2 years ago | (#40666695)

I would say it's idiotic to start running CM10 nightlies at this point

Why is it idiotic? Just do a nandroid backup and flash CM10 whenever you feel like it. If it doesn't work out, reflash your backup and you're right back where you started. I don't see how that is somehow "idiotic".

Re:Still? (1)

the_B0fh (208483) | about 2 years ago | (#40667021)

Cyanogen is half crippled on these phones without appropriate drivers for gps, camera etc. If that counts as "working" for you, great! More power to you!

Re:Still? (1)

oakgrove (845019) | about 2 years ago | (#40666577)

Who do you think makes this [google.com]? How did you get modded up?

Re:Still? (1)

the_B0fh (208483) | about 2 years ago | (#40667031)

I should have said *non-Nexus* Samsung phones. Oh well.

Wait! Did Samsung release the roms for this phone, or did Google...?! Heh :) I might still be safe! :)

iTouch? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666217)

There's no such Apple product as an iTouch. That's what your creepy uncle did to you as a child. Someone must be thinking of the iPod Touch.

Re:iTouch? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666239)

It's FAR too common as slang for my taste, but that's what an iPod touch is called to the masses.

frosty peeee aye nigga (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666233)

u kno wut time it is duke

Oh lord (-1, Flamebait)

Moheeheeko (1682914) | about 2 years ago | (#40666245)

"Blessed" with an update?

They really do think Apple is God.......

Re:Oh lord (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666301)

They really do think Apple is God.......

A common misconception among the Apple-rati. Me, I picked my iPad up this morning after not having touched it for several weeks and was struck by how much smoother Jellybean on my Galaxy Nexus and Xoom are compared to iOS 4 on the Apple device. Maybe iOS 5 and 6 are better but Google has really stomped iOS with the latest Android iteration. About time too. Can't wait to add the new Nexus 7 to my stable. Called Sam's Club this morning and they were completely sold out everywhere in the city. Oh well.

Re:Oh lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666325)

why don't u upgrade ur ipad then dumbass? see unlike android piece of shit craplets you can actually upgrade the os an ipad!

Re:Oh lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666417)

Because compared to my Xoom with Jellybean, the iPad is a boring functionless piece of shit. That's why I don't bother to take the 30 minutes to update it.

Re:Oh lord (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | about 2 years ago | (#40666571)

Thats great, too bad it took this long to get a good android experience. P.S. My Nexus 7 gets delivered tomorrow.

Re:Oh lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666597)

too bad it took this long to get a good android experience

What difference does it make? The fact is that you can get an Android device both phone and tablet that is fantastic with Jellybean. Step into the now and stop living in the past.

Re:Oh lord (2)

spire3661 (1038968) | about 2 years ago | (#40666669)

Tell that to all the Android device owners left out in the cold with regards to Jelly Bean. (yes i know ipad 1 is dropped from ios6) You cant just wave your arms and say 'but but its good NOW'. Every platform carries the weight of its past. I would like to point out i didnt think iOS was up to par until iOS 5 either.

Re:Oh lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666735)

Tell that to all the Android device owners left out in the cold

There are only 4 "Android" [android.com] devices at this point and none of them are being left out in the cold. If you have a phone that purports to be Android and isn't getting updated within a reasonable couple of years of ownership then maybe it isn't really Android in the first place. Maybe you should call it Touchwiz-droid or MotoBlur-droid or Sense-droid. But blaming the platform for what the OEM's do when you can quite easily avoid the whole issue by purchasing a real Android is just ludicrous. Frankly you sound like a fucking entitled crybaby.

Re:Oh lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666803)

My Nexus One stopped getting updates after 18 months.

Now, look, I understand they didn't want to hobble ICS just to cater to whatever graphics chip they managed to hastily source back when they started the Nexus project in 2009, but still. Upgrades are not as reliable. Frankly, they're not super reliable on iOS, either; old phones will get nominally upgraded but with features missing. The whole smartphone software stack industry is disappointingly immature.

Re:Oh lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666907)

My Nexus One stopped getting updates after 18 months.

The Nexus One got two major operating system updates to Froyo and then to Gingerbread so I wouldn't complain too much. Fortunately the One had an unlockable bootloader so loading ICS isn't too hard [androidcommunity.com].

Re:Oh lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40667301)

don't forget how the last supported iOS update for an iDevice slows the thing down to an unusable mess, so you're prompted to buy the new one. happened to my iPhone 3G and my iPad 1.

apple: not even once.

Re:Oh lord (1, Interesting)

oztiks (921504) | about 2 years ago | (#40666401)

What's even more surprising is the FPU work being done with custom compiles of Android code, If they get a Gentoo style Android solution cranking and reinvent the old adage of creating efficient code under the handheld industry it's future is looking quite bright.

I'm already expecting this to be marked troll because I haven't said anything nice about Apple. I haven't said anything bad either, I've just inferred that Android is better and done so without being AC, so go on mark me down ... I LIKE IT!!!

Re:Oh lord (1)

the_B0fh (208483) | about 2 years ago | (#40666509)

Apparently Android users liked the M part of BDSM.

Then again, they do continue to let Samsung/HTC/non-Google manufacturers screw them over...

Re:Oh lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666563)

Getting Android updates is easy. It's called get a device with the word Nexus in the name. This has been discussed ad nauseum but trolls like you just keep forgetting it for some reason. Educate yourself [android.com], fool.

Re:Oh lord (1)

oztiks (921504) | about 2 years ago | (#40666603)

Heh, i just realised BDSM is a palindrome from MSDB :) I wonder if that was on purpose LOL

Re:Oh lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666953)

Heh, i just realised BDSM is a palindrome from MSDB :) I wonder if that was on purpose LOL

The msdb database is used by SQL Server Agent for scheduling alerts and jobs. You probably meant MSDN

Re:Oh lord (1)

oztiks (921504) | about 2 years ago | (#40667721)

Either way, the joke was supposed to infer that anything Microsoft related was akin to BDSM.

Re:Oh lord (5, Funny)

busyqth (2566075) | about 2 years ago | (#40666569)

I'm right with you, brother!
It's about time someone recognized that we need a self-compiled version of Android for efficiency.
When you go to sleep, you just plug in your phone, skate over to the build app, and tap "rebuild" - all the newest code is automatically downloaded, compiled, and installed so that the OS is always up to date and optimized for your particular system.
If Google would only do this, Apple would be totally left in the dust and be a distant memory. No one would want to buy an iPhone if they could compile their own Android kernels and userland every night.

Re:Oh lord (1)

Tough Love (215404) | about 2 years ago | (#40666581)

I'm already expecting this to be marked troll because I haven't said anything nice about Apple.

They tried. Ever talked to a Scientologist?

Re:Oh lord (1)

cultiv8 (1660093) | about 2 years ago | (#40666391)

They really do think Apple is God.......

Simmer down now, I saw Apple rise from the dead, although Steve Jobs was there saying, "I"m not quite dead yet" the entire time. Maybe that's what Jesus was saying the entire time he was in his tomb. I digress.

Re:Oh lord (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666443)

They really do think Apple is God.......

When someone asks if you're a god, say YES

Re:Oh lord (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | about 2 years ago | (#40666559)

I figured the word "blessed" was sarcasm, because now ap developers have to go back and tune their code. Again. After only 21 days.

Oh NO!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666339)

Great...
" and whether to measure distances in miles or kilometers"

Now Apple's patented the metric system... buy maps while you can!!!

Re:Oh NO!!!! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666503)

This is contrary to the current setting of.. not having a setting.. If you happen to map a route within the US, you get miles. Canada or elsewhere, kilometers. I can think in terms of both, but not everyone can.. It's a little thing, but damn it'll be nice.

omg news for nerds! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666371)

Thanks slashdot for this breaking story about a new BETA release of iOS. I can't imagine what anyone would do without this breaking story about BETA software that applies to nearly nobody. I can't imagine what the serious iOS developers would do without slashdot's story of a new BETA release for testing.

Please post more iPhone 6s LTE HD+ Mini rumors while you're at it because slashdot just doesn't post enough fluff stories.

I'm an Apple fanboy... (3, Insightful)

Anubis IV (1279820) | about 2 years ago | (#40666377)

...and even I don't care about this. Let me know when a release date for iOS 6 is announced. Until then, let's hear some real news for nerds.

Re:I'm an Apple fanboy... (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | about 2 years ago | (#40666435)

I'm inclined to agree. I mean even the summary says:

MacRumours notes that this update doesn't come with any change list and developers seeing the over the air update get the message that iOS 6 Beta 3 contains some "bug fixes and improvement".

Non-story.

Re:I'm an Apple fanboy... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666473)

Right, because none of the "nerds" who read Slashdot are developers who happen to make a living from the platform. Are you serious with this horse shit or are you just trolling?

Miles or Kilometers? (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about 2 years ago | (#40666409)

When will the rest of the world catch up to the awesomeness of imperial units?

Re:Miles or Kilometers? (1)

busyqth (2566075) | about 2 years ago | (#40666587)

Kilometers suck because 100 Km/h is too slow to be such a nice round number.

Re:Miles or Kilometers? (3, Funny)

pegasustonans (589396) | about 2 years ago | (#40666705)

Kilometers suck because 100 Km/h is too slow to be such a nice round number.

Problem solved, just go 100 Km per minute. Elon Musk should be able to help you.

Re:Miles or Kilometers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666965)

Ah, but 100 meters per second is wunderbar.

Re:Miles or Kilometers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666593)

40 rods to the hogshead, etc.

Re:Miles or Kilometers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666653)

That's just about 0.85 meters per liter.
40 is a more convenient number than 0.85.
Q.E.D.

Re:Miles or Kilometers? (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about 2 years ago | (#40666983)

Just out of curiosity, is it smart enough to figure out that--at least by default--I want metric units if I'm in Europe and Imperial units if I'm in Liberia?

Re:Miles or Kilometers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40667015)

Yes, unlike Android.

Adjustable volume (1)

amRadioHed (463061) | about 2 years ago | (#40666483)

Nice, adjustable volume for the turn-by-turn navigation. Maybe eventually Android will get this feature and catch up with current iOS and also Android from a year ago, before Google in their infinite wisdom removed the option.

Re:Adjustable volume (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666527)

protip: someone has a pattent for that. both adding it and removing it. go figure

Use Waze (0)

Picass0 (147474) | about 2 years ago | (#40666535)

Waze is the best turn by turn GPS for either Andriod or iOS. Supports real time traffic conditions submitted by other waze users (police visible, traffic jams, construction and road hazzards, etc...)

Free app. It's worth installing.

Waze, bitches! (0)

Wraithlyn (133796) | about 2 years ago | (#40667229)

OMG I just installed this yesterday, cannot believe something this amazing is free.

I mean, virtually all other options with turn-by-turn voice navigation have either a $50 price tag (TomTom, Navigon, Magellan), or a recurring subscription price (TeleNav Scout, MotionX, GoKivo, etc).

Add to that the awesomeness of crowd-sourced realtime updates, and solidly implemented features like automatic route recalculation, and Waze is a real winner. And it's FREE! TomTom and Garmin must be shitting bricks right about now.

Re:Adjustable volume (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666547)

Many apps could benefit from a custom (slider) volume. For example, just because I want high volume on a phone call doesn't mean I want high volume on I-radio.

Re:Adjustable volume (1)

amRadioHed (463061) | about 2 years ago | (#40666617)

Yup, and Google is going in the exact wrong direction on this. First tying navigation volume to music volume, then tying notifications to the ringer volume. I love my Android phone, but some of these decisions are just stupid.

Re:Adjustable volume (2)

Tough Love (215404) | about 2 years ago | (#40666623)

Tim Cook will soon follow up Apple's groundbreaking Retina display[tm] innovation with Eustachian Tube[tm] speakers.

Rapid Release Hell (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666557)

Wonderful... Apple has drunk the Rapid Release Kool-Aid [lizardwrangler.com]. Hey Apple, take a look at how Mozilla and their flagship application Firefox turned out when they started Rapid Releasing things.

*gets off soapbox*

Re:Rapid Release Hell (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40667035)

This is a beta; Apple is continuing the yearly iOS updates. Could you at least try to pretend to have a point?

Fix Siri (1)

Picass0 (147474) | about 2 years ago | (#40666625)

By many accounts, including Woz himself, Siri is giving poorer quality answers as Apple dials back the processing time allowed on it's servers for individual queries.

Apple has invested a great deal of their clout in the Siri app. Siri could easily become the poster child for buggy portable apps if Apple lets this slide.

quick button for onboard mic vs BT mic. (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | about 2 years ago | (#40666627)

The best thing they added to Siri is a little button next to her button that allows you to force Siri to use the phone mic instead of whatever is on the other end of the BT connection.

supporting apple = supporting shady patents (-1, Offtopic)

StripedCow (776465) | about 2 years ago | (#40666657)

How can developers who are active on apple's platforms even look at themselves in the mirror anymore?
Come on guys, show some balls, and stop supporting this greedy lawfirm.

Re:supporting apple = supporting shady patents (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666717)

Yes, developers should fall in behind Google instead. It's totally not building a patent arsenal [infoworld.com], that's just unfounded speculation [google.com]....

Face it, corporations are scum. Microsoft is scum, Apple is scum, and Google is doing the world no favors.

Re:supporting apple = supporting shady patents (0)

scot4875 (542869) | about 2 years ago | (#40666821)

There's a big difference between building a patent arsenal -- which is what every tech company has been doing for decades now -- and unleashing your 'patent' arsenal in an offensive assault in an effort to keep competitors out of the market. It's especially egregious in Apple's case, as they have practically zero R&D to speak of.

--Jeremy

Re:supporting apple = supporting shady patents (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40666879)

It's especially egregious in Apple's case, as they have practically zero R&D to speak of.

Facts say other wise. [shareholder.com]

Research and Development Expense (“R&D”)
R&D expense increased $260 million or 45% to $841 million during the second quarter of 2012 compared to the same period of 2011 and increased $443 million or 38% to $1.6 billion during the first six months of 2012 compared to the same period in 2011. These increases were due primarily to an increase in headcount and related expenses to support expanded R&D activities.

Re:supporting apple = supporting shady patents (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 2 years ago | (#40666991)

How can developers who are active on apple's platforms even look at themselves in the mirror anymore?
Come on guys, show some balls, and stop supporting this greedy lawfirm.

Easy, iOS still makes lots of money. To make money on Android (yes, it's possible) means having to put in a bunch of ads in your app, which then gets the Android community in a tizzy because now you need "Full internet connectivity," "Phone State," and "Contact List" access in order to support your ad platform.

Or you could, I guess, starve.

If Google really wanted to kill iOS (and they probably won't, since AdMob still produces a lot of money for them on iOS), all they really have to do is increase ad rate payouts and such on Android so developers make much more money on Android. Or find ways to get people into the play store and buying lots of apps so developers can rake in money.

Re:supporting apple = supporting shady patents (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40667061)

Or get people with money who want good apps to buy Android. Most Android users are losers who live in their mom's basement and have no money; or people who just needed a phone and the carrier gave them a low end POS Android.

Either way, they aren't people that will pay money for apps.

Re:supporting apple = supporting shady patents (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40667089)

if u want more android apps write them urself, its open source(tm) after all!

Yes there are release notes (1)

mhocker (607466) | about 2 years ago | (#40667295)

... you just have to be a developer under NDA to read them. There are lots of changes and improvements but it's still beta software.

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