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Jolla Confirms MeeGo App Store Is Coming

Unknown Lamer posted about 2 years ago | from the another-contestant-enters dept.

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DavidGilbert99 writes "Jolla Mobile's MD, Jussi Hurmola has confirmed that its first smartphone will be backed up by an app store at launch later this year — pointing out that a version of Angry Birds is already available on MeeGo. And really, all you need to make an app store successful is Angry Birds, right?" The interview from which the article is sourced has more information on Jolla's general strategy, including their plans to become "a major player."

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Fags... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40687429)

Fags and niggers. Exterminate them all.

The bad news we've all been dreading (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#40687941)

From the article:

"It is true that we have not heard too much from Open Moko for quite some time. But one has to remember that Jolla's main goal is not to create an open source phone. We aim to create a competitive smartphone almost everybody would want for themselves," Hurmola said.

"The phone will be a smartphone for mass market. It will not be a tech phone intended for Linux hackers. Consumers are not able to hack the kernel or flash new software for the device."

And I won't be buying one :-(

Re:The bad news we've all been dreading (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40688027)

This comment about consumers is targeted at basic dumb users. It just says "it will be easy to use".
It doesn't mean that it will be locked (but it doesn't dismiss it either).

Re:The bad news we've all been dreading (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#40688081)

What part of "Consumers are not able to hack the kernel or flash new software for the device" says that it might not be locked?

Re:The bad news we've all been dreading (2)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | about 2 years ago | (#40688165)

He's saying that since the average consumer cannot hack the Linux kernel or flash their own device that their focus is going to be on making the phone user friendly rather than one focused on Linux hackers.

Re:The bad news we've all been dreading (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#40694981)

I'm not native English speaker, but even I see difference between
"are not able" and "will not be able"

Re:The bad news we've all been dreading (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40688101)

And the next sentence is the same article is:

"We are however planning on creating a development version of the phone for open source community, those interested in Linux and open systems and for partners."

Re:The bad news we've all been dreading (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#40688143)

Not in the same article, but yes. Let's hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as the N950.

Re:The bad news we've all been dreading (1)

nemesisrocks (1464705) | about 2 years ago | (#40692889)

They lost me at "Jolla’s foundation is on rpm based Mer Linux distribution".

Bring back the Debian, and I'll even invest in the company. Why, oh why, won't RPM just die?

Re:The bad news we've all been dreading (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40688513)

From the article:

"It is true that we have not heard too much from Open Moko for quite some time. But one has to remember that Jolla's main goal is not to create an open source phone. We aim to create a competitive smartphone almost everybody would want for themselves," Hurmola said.

"The phone will be a smartphone for mass market. It will not be a tech phone intended for Linux hackers. Consumers are not able to hack the kernel or flash new software for the device."

And I won't be buying one :-(

So in an article explaining that you aren't the target audience, you felt it was necessary to point out that you don't feel like it's the right phone for you?

Re:The bad news we've all been dreading (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40689177)

stick to your game, boy LOL

Re:The bad news we've all been dreading (1)

Tough Love (215404) | about 2 years ago | (#40689955)

"It is true that we have not heard too much from Open Moko for quite some time. But one has to remember that Jolla's main goal is not to create an open source phone...

And I won't be buying one :-(

Note the "main goal" qualification. I do hope they backpeddle on the the "no flashing" claim. That might be something they had to say to get a carrier on board.

So Sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40687437)

"Jolla Mobile's MD, Jussi Hurmola ...

Sorry to hear that it's already ailing.

Computer mouse out of Jello (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40687469)

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Sorry for the inconvenience. -1 Offtopic?

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Are we supposed to be impressed? (1)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | about 2 years ago | (#40687487)

Even "dumb" phones I've bought have had app stores at launch.
Granted, Tetris is probably the only one I ever paid money for.

LOL. No kidding. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40687603)

This is just another example of the death throes of the linux/opensource/zealot industry. All these companies so desperate to compete with Apple, but unable to muster the kind of deep thinking and engineering prowess needed to play in the same league. Jolla, like so many other Linux-based efforts before it, is simply a joke and the people behind it should just give up and go back to doing whatever it was they did before this futile attempt to compete with Apple.

Think different.
Think BETTER.
Think Apple!

Re: Uh.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40687775)

deep thinking and engineering prowess

So...copying technologies that are already existing but aren't well known? And applying for bogus patents?
Well, they got at least some of it right...

Re:LOL. No kidding. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40688207)

desperate to compete with Apple, but unable to muster the kind of deep thinking and engineering prowess needed to play in the same league.

LOL! Thats was a good one

Jolla, like so many other Linux-based efforts before it, is simply a joke and the people behind it should just give up and go back to doing whatever it was they did before this futile attempt to compete with Apple.

You mean like Android. Yeah totally.

Re:LOL. No kidding. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40689157)

think lawsuits, lawsuits, lawsuits.

Re:Are we supposed to be impressed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40688189)

The summary focuses on a small part of the interview right at the end. The full interview is more interesting.

I'm certainty interested in the phone. Android is painfully slow and inefficient, iOS is too restrictive and Windows Phone is crap. The N9 looked fantastic and it's a shame Nokia killed it, but I'm hopeful Jolla can deliver a decent alternative.

BTW, is this pronounced Jolla or Yolla? I don't want to make a fool of myself.

Re:Are we supposed to be impressed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40688701)

It's pronounced Jelly Roll.

A teaching moment, necessary but not sufficient. (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#40687569)

And really, all you need to make an app store successful is Angry Birds right?

The very definition of the term "Necessary but not Sufficient".

Thanks for the life lesson MeeGo!

Re:A teaching moment, necessary but not sufficient (-1, Troll)

Microlith (54737) | about 2 years ago | (#40687703)

I would like to know how you aren't a troll. Seriously.

Come on, humor!! (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#40688579)

How is it NOT funny to note that no platform can succeed without Angry Birds while at the same time hinting that more is required?

Man Slashdot people are so stuck up these days.

Re:Come on, humor!! (1)

Microlith (54737) | about 2 years ago | (#40688759)

You're pretty "anti-everything-but-apple" so it's hard to see the humor in your posts.

Mistaken (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#40694471)

Actually I am FOR quite a lot of stuff, but you are so blinded by hated of Apple you cannot see it. For example, I have been a champion of WebOS and even in fact WP7...

Looser looser gloomy chooser!

I'lll let you have the followup response since you are far less interesting to talk to than a bad Eliza implementation, and don't appear to have functioning memory circuits.

Re:Mistaken (1)

real-modo (1460457) | about a year ago | (#40694937)

> WebOS and even in fact WP7

Riffing off Oscar Wilde: supporting one of those is an accident. Supporting both shows poor taste.

Re:A teaching moment, necessary but not sufficient (3, Informative)

Donwulff (27374) | about 2 years ago | (#40687773)

As one of the people who developed the MeeGo predecessor Maemo, I feel I have to point out that there are currently 1723 applications on my-meego.com MeeGo Harmattan software catalog. I consider this fairly well for OS where only single phone has been publically released, and has been orphaned since the get-go. Most of them are not fart-generators either, although there's a fairly high number of what are essentially custom RSS feed-readers for private feeds (there's an RSS reader built-in which feeds straight to one of the home screens).

Of course the beautiful thing as far as software ecosystem is concerned is MeeGo is pretty much full featured Linux desktop, so that almost any Linux desktop software (minus high-end games of course) can be ported to MeeGo, usually at most requiring porting the UI to Qt and touch-friendly. (Of course it's nice to see lot more thought put to integrating most apps into the MeeGo system).

Re:A teaching moment, necessary but not sufficient (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40688275)

almost any Linux desktop software (minus high-end games of course) can be ported to MeeGo, usually at most requiring porting the UI to Qt and touch-friendly.

Similarly, any car can be turned into a submarine, usually at most requiring replacing the engine, transmission and wheels.

Re:A teaching moment, necessary but not sufficient (1)

Donwulff (27374) | about 2 years ago | (#40689109)

Ooh, a snarky comment! Your car-analogy is bit lacking though, software user-interface is more akin to the "body" or case than the innards, indeed this is what we mean by the logic or computing engine of a program. So this means you'll actually be replacing all the rest while leaving engine, transmission and wheels into your car. Duh.
On a more serious note, I realize this is not always trivial, but as Qt and GTK are the only two Linux UI-frameworks usually considered, much Linux software already has a Qt UI of some sort. The rest, if they are of any value, tend to be programmed so the UI is clearly separated from the engine or backend for maintenance and portability reasons. Even when this is not the case, the UI porting is generally not a hopeless endeavour, though there are considerable advantages from re-designing such an application. In either case we're not talking about something a casual end-user would do over the weekend, of course, but a Linux developer might.
This is also why I'm saying high-end games are an exception, the UI in those tends to be so complex, specialized and tied-in with program logic (not to mention expecting desktop performance) that the effort would most likely be wasted. Of course, the first thing I did when I got hand of the original development hardware and tried to decide where to start was naturally to get Linux-DOOM running on it, using SVGAlib (and no graphics acceleration). It was... almost playable. Didn't play nicely with the windowing system, of course. But with little work they could be swapped between.

Re:A teaching moment, necessary but not sufficient (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40688381)

Great job, dude. I had the N900 right up until the USB port fell out. I considered the N9, but got an iPhone 4S instead as an insurance policy against getting ditched as a customer.
With some investment and a "one phone" policy, they just might prove viable competition on this platform. They should provide a platform for Symbian users to move to. It would be nice to have a worthy E7 successor for the masses.

Re:A teaching moment, necessary but not sufficient (1)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 2 years ago | (#40688431)

As one of the people who developed the MeeGo predecessor Maemo,

Perhaps you could confirm this for me (I hope it's true).

As far as I could tell, Maemo was a fairly standard Linux install, with all the standard Linux goodness. As a result, i'd imagine that it didn't need quite a lot of the silly apps that Android requires (an app is needed to set a static IP address. WTF?)

Would that be correct?

Re:A teaching moment, necessary but not sufficient (3, Informative)

Donwulff (27374) | about 2 years ago | (#40688859)

Apps are, of course, preferable way unless you're an unix admin. But on Maemo and MeeGo both, the underlying system is fairly complete "desktop" Linux. My N9's /usr, /usr/bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin directories have 1015 commands total, so I won't list everything that is included. Fully featured busybox build with ifconfig is included though. For N9, "developer mode" comes as standard option you can turn on from configuration menu, which will among other things add a console app to the device, as well as opening VNC or ssh connection to the device over USB or WLAN. What is annoying, and a slight warning for the home-hacker, is that N9 comes with kernel-backed Aegis security system, which means that unless you change the kernel or take other measures, changing ANY system files will brick the device so that a full re-flash over USB is needed. It's possible to disable, and allows installing uncertified apps, but a pain in the ass.

Plus, if they install the full Java as standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40689025)

Now, wouldn't that be cool, bog standard Java. The phones these days are more than capable of running it. You also get all the ~70,000 existing Java ME apps which are available as well as the Meego ones.

Do a deal with GetJar. Add them as a secondary repo.

Add recent sqlite, perl, python and ruby with QT binding libs as part of a standard install while you're at it.

My wishlist is: HDMI output + bluetooth support for keyboard, stereo audio and mouse built in. buhbye desktop and laptop.

Who cares? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40687573)

Can we please stop with all the fucking bullshit cell phone articles on slashdot? If I wanted fifty fucking stupid articles about cell phones and cell plans every day, I'd go subscribe to the Gizmodo and Engadget RSS feeds again and get spammed by *them*.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40687649)

The firehouse is your friend.

Re:Who cares? (1)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | about 2 years ago | (#40692723)

Cell plans I can support you on, but smartphones is a different matter. This is 100% news for nerds. There is a change going on with a move so that most computing will be taking place on a smartphone. Within the next two years there will be more smartphones in use than computers. Within less than three years, more applications will be run on smartphones than on computers. Some time in that period, probably in a contry in Asia, the first bank will decide that supporting desktop users isn't worth it since they all have smartphones anyway.

When this happens, almost everybody on Slashdot will have their job change in one way or another. Mostly just doing the same stuff targetting a different user interface, but sometimes completely changing or, for those that got stuck with the wrong kind of desktop technology, being forced to completely leave the IT industry.

At the level of companies this change is seen very clearly. One company (Nokia) has already panicked and destroyed its self. Much more interesting is Microsoft. They have been very very aware of the mistake that IBM made at this stage and have totally committed to mobile. The thing is that it seems that they have made an even bigger mistake than IBM; they are sacrificing their desktop, compromising their traditional interface to impose metro; trying to push their mobile but finding nobody wants it. They have kicked their traditional partners - the PC manufacturers - in the teeth with Metro. They have kicked the Mobile operators in the balls with Skype. Keeping Nokia on life support and pushing Windows Phone is actually seriously eating into Microsoft's cash reserves.

If the trend continues and Microsoft collapses, or more likely is restructured into a series of smaller companies then the whole IT scene is going to change.

Not Compelling (3, Funny)

wbav (223901) | about 2 years ago | (#40687647)

Saying you've gotten Angry Birds on your platform is kind of like saying you got the prostitute down the street to spend the night with you.

It isn't a matter of principal, it is a matter of money.

Re:Not Compelling - I could be compelled (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40687963)

OK - where can I get a mego tablet that is linux compliant and is not
lock down like a common criminal?

Re:Not Compelling (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40690571)

Well, Microsoft had to write it themselves for Windows Phone.

No, really. The first version said "Microsoft Games Studio" in app author info. It's Rovio now...

Re:Not Compelling (1)

TeknoHog (164938) | about 2 years ago | (#40691461)

Saying you've gotten Angry Birds on your platform is kind of like saying you got the prostitute down the street to spend the night with you.

It isn't a matter of principal, it is a matter of money.

True, it would only be a matter of principal if I got one of my students to spend the night with me.

Re:Not Compelling (1)

Higgs Bosun (2676655) | about a year ago | (#40695435)

Agree, this is not remarkable (unless maybe they got the new space one ported too). The N9 already has Angry Birds (not the new space one) so it's probably damn near the same code and so likely only a small effort to bring it to their phone.

So not only is it like spending time with the local prostitute, but she already happened to be in the hotel you booked anyway because she was already hired to service another client there anyway!

Not Different Enough (3, Interesting)

agwadude (666995) | about 2 years ago | (#40687685)

They say they're trying to make something different from iPhone/Android/Windows, but this is disappointingly old and uninnovative thinking:

"The phone will be a smartphone for mass market. It will not be a tech phone intended for Linux hackers. Consumers are not able to hack the kernel or flash new software for the device."

They're right to be going straight for mass market (unlike OpenMoko), but why are they considering these mutually exclusive? What's wrong with letting people flash the device if they want to? The best way to get a new and innovative phone would be to make it truly open.

Re:Not Different Enough (1)

Microlith (54737) | about 2 years ago | (#40687733)

We are however planning on creating a development version of the phone for open source community, those interested in Linux and open systems and for partners.

I guess the point is to split the market? There's just not enough information and too much he can't reveal, and possibly undecided, to make any concrete statements.

Re:Not Different Enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40687735)

Wow, I'm thoroughly disappointed now. I can both hack the kernel and flash new software on the Galaxy Nexus that I have now. And if I want a traditional Linux environment, it's just a chroot away. Oh well. I did love my N770 though.

Re:Not Different Enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40688013)

What's wrong with letting people flash the device if they want to? The best way to get a new and innovative phone would be to make it truly open.

Support headaches, problems with getting carriers to accept it and telecoms to sell it. Telecoms don't want such devices.

That far outweighs the miniscule extra sales they'd get from the few people who'd actually care.

Re:Not Different Enough (1)

agwadude (666995) | about 2 years ago | (#40688185)

That far outweighs the miniscule extra sales they'd get from the few people who'd actually care.

It's not about the sales to the few people who would flash their phones. However, it's those few people who will innovate and experiment and improve the platform, leading to many more sales down the road to ordinary consumers. We've already got three mobile platforms where the only innovation possible by outside developers is just to develop new apps within the constraints of the platform. A truly "new" phone would allow developers to innovate everywhere

Re:Not Different Enough (0)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | about 2 years ago | (#40688417)

And your proof of more sales comes from where? Your butt?

Re:Not Different Enough (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40688739)

OH look it's Harry "SUPER FAGGOT" Squatter. Still posting faggotry you little queen? COme here and suck on this black cock you little faggot.

Re:Not Different Enough (1)

MrHanky (141717) | about 2 years ago | (#40689307)

Not quite true. There have been a number of small innovations in CyanogenMod, some of which apparently have found their way into AOSP Android (like swiping to remove notifications in ICS, I believe). At least with Android, the possibility for community innovation is there.

Re:Not Different Enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40690119)

However, it's those few people who will innovate and experiment and improve the platform, leading to many more sales down the road to ordinary consumers. We've already got three mobile platforms where the only innovation possible by outside developers is just to develop new apps within the constraints of the platform.

Well you just contradicted yourself. If the two platforms with almost 100% market share between them are constrained in that way, and the platforms that are not have failed in the market place, then this seems to point to the opposite of your claim. Those "few people innovating" are NOT needed for the platform to succeed.

Re:Not Different Enough (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about 2 years ago | (#40690765)

They say they're trying to make something different from iPhone/Android/Windows, but this is disappointingly old and uninnovative thinking:

"The phone will be a smartphone for mass market. It will not be a tech phone intended for Linux hackers. Consumers are not able to hack the kernel or flash new software for the device."

They're right to be going straight for mass market (unlike OpenMoko), but why are they considering these mutually exclusive? What's wrong with letting people flash the device if they want to? The best way to get a new and innovative phone would be to make it truly open.

sucking operator balls, pretty much. gotta be able to make the simlock stick(even if that has pretty much nothing to do with letting you flash the userland).

and selling sw and deciding who gets to sell the sw to quick setup a wifi hotspot built already in the os? that's standard nokia executive fare you know, why do you think they were considered to be in a bizarre semi black-hole even before elop?

I really hope they're not so stupid that they leave it unrootable and try to cash on petty things like that and to please operators with lockdown possibilities(cutting tethering, or building phone-home for tethering ability). but the same mistakes have been done before, by guys associated with the guys in charge of jolla :(.

they've probably sucked the mentality from nokia that they have to be lockdown friendly in order to be mass market. if they had different views they would have already have left nokia 5 years ago.....

They're not saying you CAN'T flash the phone (2)

quixote9 (999874) | about 2 years ago | (#40692417)

I think they're saying consumers won't, i.e. don't want to, flash the phone. If it's a meego phone, i.e. linux, gaining root is simple. And then flash away. Aren't people misunderstanding what Hurmola said?

It's a start (1)

downhole (831621) | about 2 years ago | (#40687853)

Just having Angry Birds on their platform isn't that impressive, but it shows that the team behind the platform at least understands that if you want to be successful in today's mobile world, you must have an app store with a competitive number and variety of apps. They've got a hell of a long way to go to compete with the major players, but at least they're not completely delusional... well, at least not in that way. The idea of a small player breaking into the market at this point... well, I'll wish them luck, but they have their work cut out for them.

I hope they make a nerd phone (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40687947)

If they want to gain a foothold they will be designing a sucessor to the N900, a real nerd phone with a keyboard and xterm as well as every gadget they could stuff into the case.
The N9 was an attempt to make a slim Meego flavored iPhone, still nice but also too conventional to be outstanding.
I want a palm sized computer that I can call people with, being different like that and then marketing it well to actual humans not moble providers will sell phones, there are enough iPhone clones.
If Nokia or Jolla cant pull it off maybe Shuttleworth can build a phone with Ubuntu on it.
I dont discount the games much to Stallmans dissapointment, I like wine HalfLife2 for my laptop and the WebOS games and Angry Birds on my N900 when traveling, but the most important apps are OSS on the Maemo repos.

Sure (1)

lennier1 (264730) | about 2 years ago | (#40688177)

Remember how well that worked out for the N900?

N900 was a little premature (1)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | about 2 years ago | (#40689295)

The only things wrong with it were the resistive touchscreen and the slow processor, the result of coming out a technology cycle too early.That, and the major design fault that you could remove the telephone icon from the homescreen, which was not clever.

Re:N900 was a little premature (2)

lennier1 (264730) | about a year ago | (#40694639)

What does the fact that the N900 had a more precise screen type and the ability to fully customize it have to do with how Nokia completely ruined any hopes for a commercial app ecosystem?

Re:Sure (1)

indeterminator (1829904) | about 2 years ago | (#40689467)

Remember how well that worked out for the N900?

Well, N900 was a Nokia op. Their store for their main line of development at that point (Symbian) was a PoS, so it can hardly be expected that their experimental line with a single device gets any better.

I wouldn't dismiss Jolla's potential to become something just yet. To get developers to do the basic apps, all they need to do is to get some sales for the devices, and show commitment to the platform in relatively backward compatible way for a few years -- something Nokia never did.

As for most of Jolla being ex-Nokia, not everyone there was an imbecil. From what I have heard from the inside (people I personally know), there was a lot of good stuff brewing in the development lines, only to be crunched to pieces by management bureaucracy.

So, I want to see this thing to fail before calling it a failure.

Major player lol (1)

TheSkepticalOptimist (898384) | about 2 years ago | (#40688707)

Like Linux on the desktop, major player means, its exists.

At least someone is trying to bring Linux to the mobile world and not just complaining about the size of its code base.

Re:Major player lol (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40690065)

"It exists" means it can call itself "the third ecosystem"!

Päivän kasvo (4, Informative)

jones_supa (887896) | about 2 years ago | (#40689521)

Here's my quick translation of the Päivän kasvo [areena.yle.fi] clip if you want to know what Jussi said there about a week ago.

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Miia Lahti: The face of today is Jussi Hurmola, CEO of Jolla.

Jussi Hurmola: Thanks for taking me to the show.

ML: Jussi Hurmola wrote to Twitter in Saturday that MeeGo is not dead. That ignited an avalanche that has kept the CEO more than busy. What this all is about, is that ex-Nokians are continuing developing the MeeGo phone, that being the exact MeeGo which Nokia abandoned from the way of Windows phone. Jussi Hurmola, you probably predicted a follow up to your tweet, but was it a surprise to what it all has lead? Phone is ringing non-stop.

JH: Well, it was a total surprise. We expected some interest to MeeGo from the world, and wanted to say that MeeGo is not dead, as MeeGo was in other news last week. But the response to all this has been amazing. At about 1PM Saturday we put out first one-liner "MeeGo is not dead" and after 15 minutes the first article about it was already written, even though we hadn't done much else with it. Since then we have pretty much followed the others' lead and during Saturday evening just had to reveal something about us. The speculation was rising and people demanded information. There was already an article about us in the Wall Street Journal and you just can't prepare for something like that. I thank about all the positive feedback we have got in Twitter and, really am surprised about this.

ML: So there is a lot of interest outside the borders of Finland?

JH: Absolutely! Almost...well...I'm starting to boast a bit here... English media, Chinese media, Russian media, our little news item has got a really wide coverage.

ML: We all are probably interested about how Nokia has reacted to this.

JH: Yep! As you mention Nokia, and many have been asking, I really have to send a thank you to them. I myself have had a 12 year career at Nokia and I have colleagues that have been 25 years on that path. Currently about half of our group is from Nokia. Nokia had this Bridge project by which we cooperated to make sure people from Nokia don't fall into oblivion but can continue working. Thanks for that! And a little thing we heard from Nokia today was that there is room for both firms. So I am pleased.

ML: Were they aware at Nokia that you were going to continue the development?

JH: Well, it was the project at Nokia to start new companies. We pulled it together and information went both ways. Yet looking forward at the timeline, we didn't expect the huge interest in Saturday and we'll see where we are going next. But we have been open to each other.

ML: So how can a small 50 person company like Jolla be bold enough to begin developing a smartphone?

JH: That's a good question. Just like the name Jolla (dinghy) says, we are navigating a little boat to the open seas. There we are among big players and we can't be small anymore. We try to build big enough base for Jolla to redeem its place within this industry. How I see Jolla's position, we are the company that makes possible in this world time, and its state, and the state of technology, to really create something new and important. That is how I see Jolla. And we are company of 50 for sure, but we have 6,000 followers in Twitter right now. Aside the market situation, the industry has changed in a way that you can buy lots of components off-shelf. Reference implementations for hardware...there's all sorts of Internet services. So you can assemble it together really quickly. Absolutely not are we starting everything from zero.

ML: You said you are about to create something new. Can you uncover any of that?

JH: If we talk about devices, I'm not ready to reveal details about them. Later this year we are going to present the line-up. We are a bit careful, as we want to deliver the things we promise. The new things we are doing here - someone knows MeeGo, some don't - but we are to deliver completely new user experience. That's one reason for choosing MeeGo. We looked at Android and things like that, when we started sketching things. Android is the typical solution. With Android you can only follow. Others control the game. For our business it was important for us to hold the leadership. MeeGo provided us a way to lead in design and technology, and to create a new experience for the users.

ML: Where and how are you going to manufacture the phones?

JH: That will be arranged via partners. There's a lot of ODMs and chipset vendors which make the actual hardware. Jolla concentrates on the appearance and feeling of it. But the actual labour and factories, circuit board technology and other, comes from the ODM partners.

ML: Where are they located?

JH: They are big, big multinational corporations that make this stuff. And as we know, most of the goods in the world are made in Asia.

ML: Jussi Hurmola, if you can imagine 10 years from now, where do you see Jolla? Is it the next Nokia of Finland, a new economy flagship?

JH: No, there won't be coming a new Nokia. Nokia is a marvellous company, they have a great history and they shall advance on their own path. When we talk about 10 years, the industry as we know it does not exist anymore. Nowadays the changes are so rapid that even two years before today we couldn't have predicted the current outcome. Think about the waves that Apple brought on the market, the waves Nokia brought, the waves of Android. How devices advance... We talk about smartphones, feature phones and tables, but in practice they contain the same technology but are merely marketed differently. I believe the industry is going to change so fast that predicting 10 years is impossible. But looking at Jolla, our mission is to be actually large in 2 years. That far we can see what the markets want.

ML: And for sure there is no shortage of talent in Finland.

JH: Talent, yes, that can be found from Finland. If we go abroad and say we are from Finland, there will be interest. Everyone knows the track record of Finland in this industry and in design. And some game company has made excellent numbers lately... Finland is in in many places.

ML: Jussi Hurmola, thank you for the interview, and good luck!

JH: Thanks!

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