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iOS 6 Beta 3 Jailbroken Already

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the what-took-so-long dept.

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hypnosec writes "Apple launched the iOS 6 Beta 3 just a couple of days back, and the redsn0w team has given out a jailbreak for the latest version of iOS 6 already. The only downside is that this is a tethered jailbreak, which means you will have to make sure your phone is connected to the computer whenever you need to reboot it."

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Good job (4, Funny)

pak9rabid (1011935) | more than 2 years ago | (#40691749)

Way to go guys...now they're gonna have it fixed before it's released to the public. Oh, and first post!

Re:Good job (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40691829)

Actually... this uses the limera1n exploit path, which is only for older devices, and exploits a hardware flaw. There's nothing Apple can do to fix it, and it doesn't burn an exploit.

Re:Good job (1)

noh8rz5 (2674523) | more than 2 years ago | (#40691851)

If its a hardware issue then the loop will be closed with the new phone and iPad mini.

Re:Good job (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692061)

Already been closed on the new phones. when the limera1n exploitable phones and iPods stop receiving updates, it won't work anymore.

Stop tethered jb news (4, Insightful)

microbee (682094) | more than 2 years ago | (#40691819)

Can we stop this already? There is really much less of a technical challenge to make tethered jailbreak working, and much less interesting to the jb community.

Re:Stop tethered jb news (2)

loufoque (1400831) | more than 2 years ago | (#40692091)

The above is not true. Making an untethered jailbreak from a tethered jailbreak is not a challenge, it's just annoying to do.

Re:Stop tethered jb news (3, Informative)

Pausanias (681077) | more than 2 years ago | (#40694603)

You don't know how wrong you are. There are so many things I think Slashdotters would appreciate knowing about the iOS jailbreak process:

1) The "Tethered" (easy) jailbreaks only work on pre-2011 devices.
2) 2011 and later device can only be freed using "untethered" jailbreaks.
3) "Untethered" jailbreaks using Apple's copyrighted code usually happen first, but are not distributed because they would be subject to DMCA takedown. The hackers want to do this legit.
3) Making the last untethered jailbreak (whether for the "tethered" pre-2011 devices or the other ones) actually involved what appears to me at least to be a spectacularly complicated process:

http://pod2g-ios.blogspot.com/2012/01/details-on-corona.html [blogspot.com]

TL;DR is that untethering iOS devices is spectacularly difficult, especially due to the fact that at least one of the best jailbreakers has been hired by apple [engadget.com] .

Re:Stop tethered jb news (1)

loufoque (1400831) | more than 2 years ago | (#40695745)

It's only about finding a security bug in existing apple programs and exploiting it. Once you've found a buffer overflow, it is known how to make use pf it. Then this is just used as a "gate" to install the actual jailbreak.

Re:Stop tethered jb news (2)

jquirke (473496) | more than 2 years ago | (#40696659)

It's substantially more complicated than that. If it were as simple as every buffer overflow being exploitable in this way, then jailbreaks would come thick and fast after every release.

With iOS you have:

(a) stack is never executable, so all payload must be ret-to-libC style
(b) consequently, because user space address layout is randomized with about 8 bits of entropy, you have to find a way to leak address of a symbol, or else find some more sophisticated exploit
(c) even if you defeat above, you still only have typically gained executable control over a restricted user account
(d) now you have to trigger a kernel exploit from restricted process space sandbox OR

(d)+(e) break out of the sandbox or gain root with another userland exploit in order to be able to trigger the kernel exploit, which may depend on functionality accessible from root only

Anyway you get the idea. My hat goes off to pod2g and co for their dedication.

So in other words... (3, Informative)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 2 years ago | (#40691865)

So in other words they managed to jailbreak iOS 6 beta 3using a previously known exploit which exploits things that are hard-coded... How is this exciting news? If you exploit hardware you should be able to jailbreak any OS on there, its simply just porting some software. To make it even less exciting this is a tethered jailbreak which means its useless for nearly everyone.

Re:So in other words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40691897)

The exploit has its uses. Yes, it uses the Limera1n hole, but it is extremely useful for Cydia app developers who are wanting to ensure that their stuff works in 6.x as soon as a JB for newer iDevices is found.

Releasing a tethered JB isn't giving anything away -- it is a hole Apple long since plugged [1].

[1]: Along with SHAtter. Screw you, Geohot, for blowing a low level exploit because of your ego.

Re:So in other words... (1)

jquirke (473496) | more than 2 years ago | (#40696711)

[1]: Along with SHAtter. Screw you, Geohot, for blowing a low level exploit because of your ego.

To be fair, it's possible SHAtter and limera1n would have been plugged at the same time by the same fix.

They both depend on bugs in the firmware read-back mode code in DFU mode. Limera1n exploits a bug in which the direction bit of the USB transfer is automatically trusted to match the command type, and SHAtter exploits a bug in which the read index offset (a global variable) is not reset after each call to re-initialize the USB code in the outer loop. Both bugs were "fixed" by the removal of the firmware read-back code in A5 devices.

Re:So in other words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692011)

How many times have you had to reboot your phone in the past month? How many of those times were you right by your pc (allowing a tethered boot)?

Re:So in other words... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692331)

About as many times as your mom fucks another nigger. So about 6 times a day.

Re:So in other words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692737)

How in the world does it being tethered make it useless?

Re:So in other words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40693169)

The article is not newsworthy, but the jailbreak has some benefit. This is useful for app developers who want a leg-up so they can make their apps compatible.

Does anyone else feel like Slashdot is going the way of Digg? HN is definitely more like the old Slashdot I remember from the mid 90s.

Re:So in other words... (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#40693251)

second HN reference from an AC in two days (possibly more).

i can't be bothered googling it. i'm just gonna assume astroturf and move on.

Re:So in other words... (2)

drkstr1 (2072368) | more than 2 years ago | (#40693575)

Hacker News.

Re:So in other words... (1)

fotbr (855184) | more than 2 years ago | (#40699031)

Should be called "Y-Combinator Startup News" - very little of interest unless you follow "web-fad-of-the-week" companies and have a raging hard-on for social media bullshit.

Re:So in other words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40693385)

Does anyone else feel like Slashdot is going the way of Digg?

That's funny, most people have been saying Digg went the way of Slashdot. You do know Slashdot predates Digg by 7 years? It's dropoff in popularity probably predates it by roughly as long. Not that I mind; the signal to noise ratio in the comments has improved.

Yay... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40691905)

..fucking iOS. When is Apple going to catch up with the features Android Froyo had 2 years ago?

Of course then they'd have to sue themselves.

Re:Yay... (1)

crafty.munchkin (1220528) | more than 2 years ago | (#40694859)

... such as? the froyo phone I had at my last job had less features than my 3gs... not to mention was bogged down with horrible and useless shit from both the manufacturer and telco.

Why Jailbreak? (0, Flamebait)

ThePeices (635180) | more than 2 years ago | (#40692033)

Why jailbreak an iOS device? Arnt they supposed to be the absolute pinnacle of technology where everything "Just Works", and if it doesnt work, its not the device at fault, its just that you are simply doing/holding it wrong?

I thought it was all roses and smiles and content happy thoughts in the Walled Garden?

Why modify that which is supposed to be perfect? Why Jailbreak?

Re:Why Jailbreak? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692103)

As an AppleTV owner I care. The hardware is pretty decent, and the add-ons are where the real value is (xbmc for example).
I'm not interested in apple's locked in system and really unhappy with the cat-and-mouse game of apple trying to "close" the system. I had an auto-update break my xbmc once, then i spent a lot of time trying to fix it. flashing the appletv involves sending a signature to apple to confirm this is a valid IOS to load.

This whole 'dmca' type stuff is nonsense. if i bough the hardware, why do you go out of your way to prevent me from doing what i want? If you want to behave like this, then RENT the hardware so you still own it. Why sell me something, then attempt to force me do do only what you want with it?

Re:Why Jailbreak? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692853)

This whole 'dmca' type stuff is nonsense. if i bough the hardware, why do you go out of your way to prevent me from doing what i want? If you want to behave like this, then RENT the hardware so you still own it. Why sell me something, then attempt to force me do do only what you want with it?

Why do you expect it to do anything other than what was advertised?

Re:Why Jailbreak? (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#40693745)

Who says they do? It doesn't do what they want it to do, so it gets jailbroken.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692865)

As an AppleTV owner I care. The hardware is pretty decent, and the add-ons are where the real value is (xbmc for example).
I'm not interested in apple's locked in system and really unhappy with the cat-and-mouse game of apple trying to "close" the system. I had an auto-update break my xbmc once, then i spent a lot of time trying to fix it. flashing the appletv involves sending a signature to apple to confirm this is a valid IOS to load.

This whole 'dmca' type stuff is nonsense. if i bough the hardware, why do you go out of your way to prevent me from doing what i want? If you want to behave like this, then RENT the hardware so you still own it. Why sell me something, then attempt to force me do do only what you want with it?

Were you unaware that Apple would make this hard? Why would you buy hardware from a manufacturer that works so hard to prevent you from using the device?

If you want to use a product to do X, and you know that the manufacturer will prevent you from doing X, writing that manufacturer a check was not a good way to protest, was it?

Re:Why Jailbreak? (5, Interesting)

mister2au (1707664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40693911)

"Why sell me something, then attempt to force me do do only what you want with it?"

Are you serious?

Because that's what they advertised it to do.
Because that's what they have to guarantee it do.
Because that's what they have to support it to do.

Letting you do whatever you want with it undermines their ability ensure it does what it should during their legal warranty period and beyond. What do you think happens when an infrastructure update breaks on your device because you've screwed with it - and you bitch and moan all over internets !

Having said that, I am strongly of the 'open hardware' view but I do understand their business problem - definitely not a apple fanboi so don't go there

Ideally they really need to sell 'open' hardware at a premium (for lost revenue stream that otherwise subsidises the hardware) with no warranty/no support and let you do whatever you want with it - basically the PC hardware model.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (2)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 2 years ago | (#40694299)

Ideally they really need to sell 'open' hardware at a premium (for lost revenue stream that otherwise subsidises the hardware) with no warranty/no support and let you do whatever you want with it - basically the PC hardware model.

Who's to say they don't already? Knowing how to "jailbreak" is the cost of entry. Look at the OSX86 world. It's not like every OS update they're making it impossible to do with installation keys and a phone home. If you make it so that anyone can do it I'm suddenly going to get support calls from my aunts who read all the cool stuff you can do with the iPhone. Toss it behind a 'jail break' and they suddenly automatically remove the warranty issues, idiots that don't know what they're doing, etc.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (1)

EthanV2 (1211444) | more than 2 years ago | (#40692117)

Because some people don't want to pay for apps? That's the only reason I can think of. All of those people saying they have done it for 'stability reasons' are talking out of their asses. I moved from an Android phone to an iPhone, and I have never regretted it. You guys may use the "It just works" slogan mockingly, but it's true. I've had my iPhone for three months now, and I haven't needed to reboot it once (after all of the first-time installation stuff). Mean-while, during the two years I had my Android device, I had countless issues with it. Some of the problems, admittedly, were hardware issues, but a large number of them were software issues.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692247)

The swipe the status bar to get at everything apple has hidden 2-3 layers deep in settings at the push of a button? Dunno why I'd want that.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (1)

Beardydog (716221) | more than 2 years ago | (#40692657)

So I can connect my Wi-Fi iPads (no GPS) to the bluetooth GPS receiver I already own.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40693463)

Most of the JB-ers have never touched Installious. In fact, if the Dev Team could block that thing from being installed, they could. JB-ing != pirating.

Want to know the reason I JB? Simple. There are a number of apps that make life easier. That, plus I like full control of my device. Simple things like tarring up some files or having a very secure stash for my gpg keys (where I can pipe files through a ssh to the device for signing/decryption) that are doable with a UNIX prompt, but no apps.

As for JB apps, here are a few:

1: 3G Unrestrictor -- I pay per gig for bandwidth, if I want to download a multi-gig app, I should be able to.

2: iBlacklist. iOS6 has rudimentary functionality for dealing with unwanted callers, but there are some numbers which you don't want to hear or read texts from, period. Having an app for that is a lot cheaper than getting a restraining order.

3: AppBackup. There is no way on iOS to copy off a game's save files, delete the app, then later on, reinstall the app and have the save files at the ready. Yes, a few apps store their files in Documents, but that is the exception.

4: Backgrounder. Woodall's Maps needs to have foreground access to complete its large downloads, so either have to keep it in the foreground, or use an app to make it think it is there.

5: Protect My Privacy. iOS hands out contact info freely to any app that asks for it. This protects against spamming of contacts.

6: Firewall IP. You would be SHOCKED at what apps try to connect to. Way too many targeting, tracking and ad sites.

So, don't assume all jailbreakers are pirates. Most of us actually pay for what we use.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40693795)

Add GuizmoVPN to this list, if you (like me) use OpenVPN at work or home.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 2 years ago | (#40694337)

apt-get. Cydia is based on the .deb. I'm still waiting for apt-get for my Android. I don't care if it's a 3rd party app but it's awesome to be able to just install stuff through apt-get (just like it is on the desktop). Someone needs to start a debian apt repository with android compiled binaries so that when I need the latest bash or coreutils It doesn't take a few minutes of googling and stuff. Plus automatic updates.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#40692141)

If Apple fans are so annoying, why are you trying to bait them? They're just going to talk more.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40696373)

Anyone on this site who questions people jailbreaking / hacking something and also feels like they need a valid or reasonable explanation to do so, are as you say clearly trolling or just being stupid.

As Steven Levy wrote in the beginning of "Hackers" explains i rather well, to me at least:
"Just why Peter Samson was wandering around in Building 26 in the
middle of the night is a matter that he would find difficult to
explain. Some things are not spoken. If you were like the
people whom Peter Samson was coming to know and befriend in this,
his freshman year at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in
the winter of 1958-59, no explanation would be required.
Wandering around the labyrinth of laboratories and storerooms,
searching for the secrets of telephone switching in machine
rooms, tracing paths of wires or relays in subterranean steam
tunnels . . . for some, it was common behavior, and there was
no need to justify the impulse, when confronted with a closed
door with an unbearably intriguing noise behind it, to open the
door uninvited."

Re:Why Jailbreak? (1)

Merle Darling (33121) | more than 2 years ago | (#40692179)

Jailbreaking has added little to my user experience, but being able to display free memory and your IP and whatnot in the statusbar is convenient for mobile dev. It's also nice to be able to SSH into the machine, poke around in app data and SCP it off to your workstation for further pokery on a system with real software.

But yeah, hooray for supposed perfection, hypocrisy inherent in the system, stick it to the man, lol@fanboyz!!11elevenoneone, etc.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692291)

Dorks like you like to steal apps. That's why.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (1)

Lieutenant_Dan (583843) | more than 2 years ago | (#40692461)

I jailbroke mine so that I can use a different cell company from the one I got my phone from. It was locked.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692917)

Why jailbreak an iOS device?

My job involves benchmarking web pages loading on a celular connection. Real connections have very high variance, so that tests run a minute appart can not be compared. I run dummynet on the phone to simulate a cellular connection in a controlled, repeatable way. Running dummynet requires jail-breaking the device on iOS 5 and below.

As a user, I see no reason to jailbreak, and I would never use a jailbroken device. As a developer, I need to modify low level settings to understand how decices behave.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 2 years ago | (#40697161)

Can you explain why won't a developer license work instead of jail breaking?

Re:Why Jailbreak? (1)

Tarlus (1000874) | more than 2 years ago | (#40700723)

This is the highest density of canned Apple flamebait I have seen to date.

There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak ... (2, Interesting)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | more than 2 years ago | (#40692363)

Get a phone from a company whose policies don't fucking suck, and where you can install whatever fucking software you want without the need to find a vulnerability.

Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (2)

Cerium (948827) | more than 2 years ago | (#40692533)

I don't believe there's an Android app for "perceived social acceptance." :(

Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40693919)

Why on earth would anyone even know which phone you are using? You don't mess with the phone while hanging out with someone, right? Keep it in your pocket, and preferably have it set to silent mode.

Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (1)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | more than 2 years ago | (#40705313)

What? Maybe it's because I don't give a fuck what other people think, or about what's socially acceptable, I have way too much important stuff to do to care about such mundane concepts, but I don't really understand your post. Like, at all. Care to elaborate on that?

Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (1)

Cerium (948827) | more than 2 years ago | (#40708171)

Generally speaking, it was a joke about/a cheap shot at people who buy Apple products, based on some anecdotal evidence.

The situation that stands out the most to me happened a few months back when I was having a discussion about mobile tech with one of my friend's siblings (who is in the 16-19 year old range). He was rocking a iPhone and studio-style Beats Audio headphone combo. When I explained to him that for the features he cared about, he could have gotten a set of actual professional studio headphones and an Android-based phone for significantly less money and superior hardware/feature sets, he just scoffed at me and said something along the lines of "these are cooler."
His purchasing decision wasn't made based on which product was best suited for doing a given task, but which has the greatest external "coolness" factor.

I understand that not everyone who buys Apple products does so for social acceptance. However, in my experience, that's generally not the case. Also, generalizations and exaggerations tend to make mediocre jokes a tad funnier. :P

Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (4, Interesting)

Pausanias (681077) | more than 2 years ago | (#40694637)

Why is it that there are so many foul mouthed, rabid comments by detractors of iOS all over the interwebs? I would like to believe that these folks are paid shills; it would make more sense.

I love FOSS, I run Ubuntu Linux on a Mac Pro, and I own a jailbroken iPhone on which I can install whatever I want using dpkg and apt-get (yes, Debian tools are the jailbreakers' favorite ones).

I have tried Android, and while I love the fact that Android is based on Linux, I have found that a jailbroken iPhone offers me much of the same flexibility.

Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (1)

AmazingRuss (555076) | more than 2 years ago | (#40697865)

Not shills... Neckbeards who have associated their identity with Android. In a word: Fanboids.

Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (1)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | more than 2 years ago | (#40705295)

"detractors of ios?"

Detractors ... interesting. You are using the same words as crazy christians who thing anybody that doesn't validate their imaginary friend is attacking them.

Good choice of words if you ask me, Apple is a religion.

Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (3, Insightful)

Tom (822) | more than 2 years ago | (#40695547)

I can install whatever fucking software I want. It's called a developer license.

Seriously, WTF is your problem at all? I've yet to find a software outside the App Store (i.e. available only for jailbroken iPhones or iPads) that I really need.

So, for all practical purposes, there is no issue here. I do see the philosophical argument, which is why my heart is with the jailbreakers. But for my day-to-day usage, I don't need it, and neither do millions of other people. So why are you so angry?

Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (1)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | more than 2 years ago | (#40705271)

You know that ain't true. It's the other way around. You install what's available, and ask yourself, why would I ever need anything again?

Truth is, it's enough for your average joe, but not for nerds.

I'm running a full Debian install on top of my Ice Cream Sandwich install on my Galaxy. That includes Apache, mysql and PHP. It's a portable webserver, and it comes in handy more than once when you are a dev. Try doing that on your phone ...

Anyway, you started your post with "it's called a developer license". You should have stopped RIGHT THERE. Do you realize you need a LICENSE to install software ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER (Yes, the iPhone is a computer)?

Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (1)

Tom (822) | about 2 years ago | (#40711179)

You know that ain't true. It's the other way around. You install what's available, and ask yourself, why would I ever need anything again?

You can't read my mind, so stop projecting yours.

I don't use an iPad as my main computer, I need it as a mobile device for when I'm on the road. I have a developer license specifically so I can write stuff for myself that's not available. Know what? I've yet to find something non-trivial that I need and that's not there. Most of what I'd love to see is iPad ports of software I use on my main computer. The issue with that is never the App Store and never will.

No, I'll be honest, thinking about it there is in fact one piece of software that will probably be available for jailbroken devices only if at all - a WiFi analyser/cracker. I've never really needed one, but it's something I could imagine I might want to have one day.

I'm running a full Debian install on top of my Ice Cream Sandwich install on my Galaxy. That includes Apache, mysql and PHP. It's a portable webserver, and it comes in handy more than once when you are a dev. Try doing that on your phone ...

I don't see why I would want to, and I am doing software development on LAMP stacks. But my phone is a client, not a server. I deploy my web apps to my server, not to my phone. But if for whatever reason you do it the other way around, hey I'm not going to stop you at all.

Do you realize you need a LICENSE to install software ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER (Yes, the iPhone is a computer)?

Yes, I do. That is why I wrote that I do see the philosophical argument. However, I should have mentioned that my profession is IT security and compliance. I understand the geek desire to have admin rights on your machine, and I understand the organisations need to limit admin rights. That's a slightly different scenario, because the organisation owns the computers, but a similar argument can be constructed.

Mod (0)

Known Nutter (988758) | more than 2 years ago | (#40692499)

Mod story Troll.

Is the purpose of this story a mystery to anyone. It's like ad TV reruns...

This just in (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692555)

Nobody cares

News Flash! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40692595)

This just in.....

Next week redsn0w will release a jailbreak for the yet designed IOS 8.

Strange cookie behavior in linked site (2)

manu0601 (2221348) | more than 2 years ago | (#40693619)

There is something wierd in linked site: http://paritynews.com/software/item/66-ios-6-beta-3-jailbroken-already [paritynews.com]

It displays a warning at the bottom of the page telling site experience is better with cookies enabled. There are two buttons to allow for this site or allow for all, both linking to "#" without javascript onclick. Probably harmless, but weird.

Re:Strange cookie behavior in linked site (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40696723)

The onclicks do work for me.
And it's there because of the EU law forbidding all tracking cookies without explicit opt-in.

Re:Strange cookie behavior in linked site (1)

manu0601 (2221348) | more than 2 years ago | (#40706751)

I think I get it: they means the cookie are disabled server side (i.e.: the server does not send them), this has nothing to do with the client accepting cookies or not.

Tethered jailbreak? (1)

uvajed_ekil (914487) | more than 2 years ago | (#40693639)

A "tehtered" jailbreak is like having to lug around a heavy weight chained to your ankle. You can do it, and it is better than still being in jail, but it is not ideal. This is the ball-and-chain jailbreak.

Re:Tethered jailbreak? (1)

Tarlus (1000874) | more than 2 years ago | (#40700749)

Hence, the name "tethered."

Why Jailbreak? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40694497)

Apple incorporated all the good features that you got from a jailbreak into ios 4. The only reason to jailbreak now is to pirate apps, which is pathetic.

Re:Why Jailbreak? (1)

Tarlus (1000874) | more than 2 years ago | (#40700761)

No, piracy is not the only reason. There are many legitimate purposes for an iOS jailbreak.

This is non-news for this reason.. (1)

anethema (99553) | more than 2 years ago | (#40694505)

What is not clear from the summary, is that the iPhone 4 and below have bootrom level exploits. For the newer 3GS and all the 4's these are tethered type exploits. They are in the hardware and cannot be flashed to fix or changed in any normal firmware update.

What this means is every single version you can install on these phones will be jailbroken the minute the redsn0w maintainer checks compatibility and adds probably a line of code allowing this version.

Since iOS 303087475.1.1 will be jailbreakable instantly if Apple allows it on the iPhone 4, every version that comes out does not need a news story saying there is a tethered jailbreak for it.

No new exploits were used/exposed in this jailbreak either, so there is no downside to the dev team doing this. They will never expose a new exploit to jailbreak a beta version. This tethered jailbreak does not apply for the 4S or iPad 2/3. These devices have no discovered hardware exploits (that anyone has let on anyways). The jailbreaks have relied on flaws in the backup/restore process and some other stuff.

I hate jailbreaking (2, Insightful)

Octorian (14086) | more than 2 years ago | (#40694659)

Frankly, I wish jailbreaking an iOS device was impossible. Why? Because it might actually stop people from considering iOS devices as worth buying, because of what they can do when jailbroken. As long as its easy to climb over the walls the gardener builds around his garden, far fewer people care that the walls are there in the first place.

As users, we should have the ability to run whatever damn software we please on the hardware we've bought. And no, we shouldn't have to hack our devices for that privilege. Yes, even software that the platform vendor doesn't approve of.

(Every time Microsoft even ponders things for PCs that vaguely resemble what Apple does on iOS, the community screams for blood. I only wish the same level of anger, from the same individuals, would get pointed at Apple once in a while.)

Re:I hate jailbreaking (1)

Alioth (221270) | more than 2 years ago | (#40695199)

(Every time Microsoft even ponders things for PCs that vaguely resemble what Apple does on iOS, the community screams for blood. I only wish the same level of anger, from the same individuals, would get pointed at Apple once in a while.)

That's because a PC is not a phone. A personal computer is supposed to be a general purpose computer. I don't give a damn about jailbreaking my phone, I just want something that calls, does texts, and which I can run some useful applications, and I just want it to work. I want my phone to be an appliance, in effect. Most people want their phones to be an appliance.

I bought a personal computer to be a general purpose computer, not an appliance. While I don't give a damn about my phone being locked down, it would be intolerable to do the same for a personal computer because my PC is not used like a phone. So no, it is NOT in the slightest bit unusual that people can not care about their phone being a locked down appliance but *DO* care that their computer is NOT locked down.

Re:I hate jailbreaking (1)

jaymemaurice (2024752) | more than 2 years ago | (#40695895)

But these phones are sold as general purpose smart phones - they list their speed, memory, storage and other low level hardware specifications. I do care that my phone is able to do the things I want to do with it or make it possible to do them. Being able to SCP files to and from your phone and have your media library update, without itunes like applications is awesome.

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