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Don't Super-Size My Smartphone!

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the a-pox-on-anyone-uttering-the-word-phablet dept.

Cellphones 660

New submitter Steve Max writes "Editor Paul Ockenden wonders, 'Has anyone else noticed what's been happening to top-end smartphones recently? They've started to get big – really big. But do people really want that at the expense of carrying around such a huge, heavy lump of tech in their pocket?' The trend for bigger and bigger screens is clear, but is it what consumers want? Is it what you want?"

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Bigger != Better (3, Insightful)

jmorris42 (1458) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712857)

I carried a Palm III and then a Handspring Visor for decade. I thought the size was the biggest negative. Now phones are even larger in height and width but a little thinner in most cases. Good grief. Which is why I looked around and got a tiny import Android phone with a puny 2.3" screen, just to carry something small for a change.

If I wanted to carry a tablet around I'd buy a frickin tablet. And that might be an option to consider if a tablet could replace both my laptop and phone but they currently can't. Even if you buy a tablet with a cell link they never seem to allow them to make a call or send a SMS text, but with a BT earpiece or a good speakerphone implementation a tablet could serve as a phone, it is just an arbitrary 'product differentiation' decision that disallows the option. Meanwhile tablets with keyboards are getting close to the lower bound of laptop territory. So someday I might be able to replace two devices with one... but not today.

Re:Bigger != Better (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712973)

My phones have actually been going down in size since the early 2000s. My Treo 650 was the same size or maybe a bit smaller than my Treo 180, and my N900 is a bit smaller than my Treo 650. The only time size went up is when I went from a dumb phone (some cheapo Motorola) to a PDA-phone (Treo 180).

Re:Bigger != Better (2)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713137)

As long as the phone fits into the breast pocket of my shirt I'm good. But what I miss on modern phones is the lid that my m505 had to protect the display.

Re:Bigger != Better (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713239)

I had a Palm pilot long time ago - bought a Neoprene zip-up shell case for it. Best thing I ever bought - stop it from getting damaged. Then lost the whole thing in a telephone box in London.

Re:Bigger != Better (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713379)

Why are we even complaining about this? You can buy anything from a dumb-phone to a Galaxy Note. Pick what you like and leave people alone.

Re:Bigger != Better (5, Insightful)

dc29A (636871) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713005)

I use monthly about 4-5 minutes air time on my phone. Rest of time is maps, browsing, reading and games. Phablets are prefect for me. I keep telling people that I don't have a phone but a small tablet with a phone app.

Re:Bigger != Better (5, Funny)

dmacleod808 (729707) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713187)

Perhaps your prefect phone needs a better spell check.

Re:Bigger != Better (4, Informative)

clarkn0va (807617) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713117)

Your post is immediately more interesting than the linked article, because you actually claim experience with a larger device, albeit an archaic one that hardly resembles the smart phones the author is bemoaning.

Ockenden criticizes this 'growing' trend, quotes some twitter users criticizing the trend, and then concludes that the manufacturers of these smart phones don't know anything about their market, because consumers obviously want the old phones; great battery life and diminutive size are obviously all that matter.

This article would have been far more interesting had he actually claimed to have tried one of these newer bigger phones, or at least talked to somebody who has. I carry a Samsung Galaxy Note for work, and the biggest reservation I had coming from the much smaller HTC Desire, was its huge size and potential to eat battery life--the same concerns mentioned by Ockenden. Having read some reviews and seeing that the reviewers quickly overcame the same concerns after very short time with their Notes, I decided to take the plunge. Honesly, it took no time to get used to the size, and whenever I hold a smaller phone I'm amazed that anybody can find them useful for anything, and the battery life is at least as good as the Desire.

Re:Bigger != Better (5, Insightful)

uniquename72 (1169497) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713191)

I like big phones. I buy big phones.

The whole debate is dumb: There's no shortage of choice at the small end; there's just more choice at the bigger end.

How is more choice a bad thing?

Re:Bigger != Better (1)

Desler (1608317) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713257)

No one is saying choice is a bad thing. And TFA nowhere says that big smartphones shouldn't be made and sold. It was just the author opining if consumers at large wanted larger smartphones.

Re:Bigger != Better (5, Insightful)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713321)

I like big phones. I buy big phones.

You got that from my head! You nailed it! The debate is dumb. Just look at the numbers...Samsung sold millions of the Galaxy Note in a few months.

And guess what: I am waiting for the next version. I spend little of my time making calls. To me, what matters is that big screen and I have come to love it.

Re:Bigger != Better (1)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713209)

I don't know, I like 3-4" phones. You can do quite a bit more with the screen real estate, ESPECIALLY if it has an on-screen keyboard. However, I'd be even more happy if the phones were twice as thick, and 3-4 times as heavy, if the space/weight were effectively spent on improving battery life and recepetion.

Re:Bigger != Better (1)

pixelpusher220 (529617) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713327)

I've run through various sizes of phones over the years Kyocera QCP-6035, Treo 650, 700p and a few of the original Palms before them.

I have an HTC Evo 4G and it's just about the right size.

Phone is 4.75" x 2.5"
Screen is 3.75" x 2.25"

So lets say 5" by 2.5" is a reasonable size for the phone itself. Big enough to see maps and such, small enough to still fit in my pockets or more importantly, on my hip.

LOL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40712891)

Maybe they are being made for the same people as the original Xbox controllers? Did gorillas recently become huge users of smartphones?

Re:LOL (1)

SebaSOFT (859957) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712965)

And huge living rooms. For the Kinect

Re:LOL (1)

DanTheStone (1212500) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713061)

Maybe they are being made for the same people as the original Xbox controllers?

I loved my Xbox controllers. The "S" controllers for Japanese children with vestigial right-palm-fingers were ridiculous.

If consumers didn't want big phones (5, Insightful)

pisces22 (819606) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712901)

...they wouldn't buy them.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (1)

rsmith84 (2540216) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712963)

Correction, they want big screens. Most of the people buying smart phones haven't the slightest clue what they are doing with them. They fail to comprehend the true computing power and potential of these "handheld media players". All they care about is a better screen to watch hulu or netflix on and let us not forget the angriest of birds.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713043)

You can have big screens without a big phone, just make the phone take up more of the screen's face (and with a landscape slider, you can still have a full keyboard). Plus pretty soon the higher-end phones will all have projectors in them anyways.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (2)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713189)

Most phones are *already* pretty much all screen. Even my highly outdated Droid I has only a small area that is not-screen - 1cm on the top and bottom, 1/2cm on the sides. And from what I've seen, newer phones tend to have even less non-screen space.

So if you want a bigger screen, you kind of have to get a bigger phone. Or a projector, but that brings in its own problems (how do you play Angry Birds on it?).

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713229)

Plus pretty soon the higher-end phones will all have projectors in them anyways.

You haven't thought about that at all. Go get a projector, keyboard and some duct tape. Duct tape the keyboard to the projector and tell me how productive you are using the projector as an interactive screen.

Now travel somewhere and find a decent private wall to project on.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713227)

>>>Correction, they want big screens

Yeah but arent they tired of carrying around a big 4 or 5 inch slab hanging off their hip? My phone measures a measley 2.5 x 1" and I already get annoyed having to carry* it around all the time.

*
*Still haven't found a good case. The snap-on kind pops off & falls to the ground, and the belt-type doesn't work when I have no belt.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713337)

Plus anyone who wears a phone clipped to themselves looks like a total asshat. That is what pockets are for. Oh, unless that is the form of birth control you prefer.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40712971)

I really don't understand the sentiment here. If you don't want a bigger screen, don't BUY one. They are still making slide out keyboard cell phones (which I find stupid) but it is no skin off my nose if anyone purchases one.

I'll be getting a galaxy note (or equivalent) when it is time to retire my samsung galaxy s2

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (2)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713047)

What's stupid about slide-out keyboards? That was the #1 reason I got the phone I did. I can use a slide-out keyboard on my 3.2" screen phone with tactile feedback, or I can get some behemoth that no longer fits in my pocket and type at half the speed on the on-screen keyboard.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (2)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713113)

Does it matter? A free market can accommodate his bias, your bias, and my bias and we can all be happy. Technology doesn't have to be some fascist nightmare.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (1)

plopez (54068) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713235)

It's not a free market. Often phn manufacturers and network providers (more data used == more revenue) restrict choices and if the cost of producing a phn is greater than what you can mae from sales the model is discontinued. Not matter what you want.

Henry Ford said something like "They can have any color they want, as long as it is black." That is the situation we are in and why you cannot appeal to a free market argument.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713119)

I think the point is that they don't make just one kind of cell phone and people who like keyboards can have them and people who want bigger screens can have them too?

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (2)

Sique (173459) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713165)

Everything mechanical is prone to break prematurely. That's why I never went for a clamshell phone like the StarTAC or a Nokia Commander, and that's why I don't want a slide-out keyboard.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713075)

7-11 invented the Big Gulp, and found out people kept buying bigger and bigger cups.

We already have a continuum of large phones through tiny tablets. This issue was settled years ago.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (2)

Steve Max (1235710) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713147)

The point is: if you want a high end smartphone AND you don't want a 4.5+ inch screen, what are your options? What quad-core Android comes in such form factor?

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713253)

Not quad, but very nice dual core would be the Rezound. I am sure HTC will update this design to quad very soon.

Of course big phone get the best hardware first, it is easier to cram it in there.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (3, Funny)

LurkerXXX (667952) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713195)

Yeah, the HP Veer was just a huge success because people are really clamoring for a smaller phone.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (2)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713335)

I find the move to everything-touch-screen to be stupid. The slight out keyboard, especially on a smaller phone, is nice. No killed screen space for the keyboard.

And there are plenty of small phones.

I just wish they had a smart phone (or laptop for that matter), where you could adjust the volume while it was off, like with those old volume sliders/rollers/dials.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713007)

I wanted caller id without having to answer the phone and no camera. At the time Verizon had no such thing. If I wanted to see who was calling without answering, I needed to get the phone with the camera.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (3, Insightful)

ethanms (319039) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713015)

If I buy cable TV and it includes ESPN, does that mean I want ESPN? No.

Consumers want certain features. If those features are only available on a phone with an extra-large screen, they are forced to buy it, or otherwise skip the feature they want.

I own a iPhone, not because I'm in love with Apple or it's feature sets, but because I like the size. I do not want a larger phone.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (1)

fluffythedestroyer (2586259) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713213)

I can sell a refrigerator to an Eskimo

is a popular quote from a salesperson's career life. The kind that makes you buy anything with the right words and attitude. Fear those people. need is irrelevant in front of a veteran salesperson.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (1)

EvilBudMan (588716) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713243)

This is true bigger is better. For a phone about 5" is the max. Well with fondle slabs, the sky is the limit. My 4.3" Android is no bigger than the smaller iPhone screens and I have small hands. Not too large. Anything beyond a 5" would be a tablet.

Re:If consumers didn't want big phones (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713255)

I love my big phone (Samsung Note). It's my PC away form my PC.
(Until the I-Borg Implant phone is available someday.)

I know lots of people who hate big phones (5, Interesting)

smellsofbikes (890263) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712909)

My wife got an HP Veer specifically because it's smaller than a credit card. Most of her clothing doesn't have pockets big enough to fit an iPhone, so she got a dead-end phone with an antiquated OS because she's not going to carry a giant phone around. Her friends all think it's fantastic.

Re:I know lots of people who hate big phones (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713033)

Use the right tool for the right job, whats the problem? The phone works and does everything she expects of it. Do you really think people care what OS their phone runs outside a few assholes on this site?

Appearance versus function. (1)

sjbe (173966) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713143)

Most of her clothing doesn't have pockets big enough to fit an iPhone, so she got a dead-end phone with an antiquated OS because she's not going to carry a giant phone around. Her friends all think it's fantastic.

That's because her friends don't have to actually use it. The size might actually be fantastic but that doesn't mean the phone is. I used to have a Nokia E70 "smartphone" with a fold out keyboard. It looked cool and everyone would say so but the screen was too small for practical use and the software interface sucked hard. It was easier to carry but it was a crappy phone. As you say, her phone is antiquated and there is a price to pay for that. My wire carries her phone in a belt holder for the same reason (small or nonexistent pockets). That works too and her phone is the same as mine.

Some of the android phones I've seen are starting to border on tablet size and I'm not sure they'd fit comfortably in a pocket. While I like a big screen as much as anyone, this seems like an attempt to differentiate more than filling any actual need for me at least. As long as I can fit it in my pocket and view the screen comfortably, I'm not too fussy about the exact size. Could be a bit bigger or smaller and I wouldn't care much.

Re:I know lots of people who hate big phones (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713345)

Oh yeah, I loved that phone.

I can see it now (1)

rrohbeck (944847) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712927)

The convergence of tablet and smartphone: Just put a mic and a speaker in the right places on a tablet with a cell modem.

Re:I can see it now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713333)

Too late [gizmodo.com] .

Yes No (1)

Vlijmen Fileer (120268) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712935)

Yes, I have noticed. No, it is not what I want.

Dell Streak (1)

war4peace (1628283) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712937)

The 5" Dell Streak was probably the best hardware piece I wished to own. Sadly, the software part was disastrous. I still think a 5" screen smartphone-tablet bridge device would be perfect in terms of covering both smartphone and tablet functions. Pair a Bluetooth headset with the device and all of a sudden size is no longer that important.
What I mean is I would pick a 5" screen device any day instead of carrying both a smartphone AND a tablet.
So yeah, supersized smartphones are bad if they are only considered smartphones. A small tablet with phone functions would be preferable.

It's not that... (4, Funny)

Antipater (2053064) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712947)

It's not about consumer habits. It's just that all the people who designed "bigger and better" SUVs for the auto industry got fired during the recession, so now they've started new careers making gadgets.

Yes please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40712967)

Yes I want bigger smart phones, I'm 6'8" it is so frustrating trying to poke at a tiny screen with my huge goliath hands. When the Galaxy Note II comes out I will be on it like flies on poop.

Re:Yes please (1)

dmacleod808 (729707) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713387)

You are going to stick your proboscis in it?

size matters (1)

aheadinabox (936810) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712975)

I don't like a large phone when it's in my pocket, but I do like an extended battery and a larger touchscreen when texting. So its a trade off.

Depends on what you use it for. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40712977)

If you always keep it in your pocket, the size might suck, and this is why I didn't get a Galaxy S3.

However, if you don't want a tablet, play lots of touch-screen games on your phone, and regularly use it for movies or GPS, then the large screen isn't such a problem.
Personally, I wanted a bigger screen for when I use my phone as a GPS. I currently carry a 3.5" phone in my pocket, and I would have to adjust the way I carry things if I upgraded to a 4.8" screen. I might have to start carrying a bag everywhere I go - so no thanks! For people who already always have bags with them, like some women with their purses, I could totally see the appeal of a larger screen.

Wrong trend in two dimensions (1)

medcalf (68293) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712987)

I have an iPhone 4. The screen is almost perfect on size: I can reach the whole screen with my thumb, most of it comfortably, while holding it in my palm. But it's a little too thin: it tends to get gripped too loosely because there's no depth to fill the hollow behind it. But the trend is larger screens and thinner devices. Hopefully not everyone will jump on that trend.

Re:Wrong trend in two dimensions (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713077)

I find the iPad is also too thin. There's definitely a lower limit where decreased thickness no longer makes sense. The tapered edges (to give the illusion of even lower thickness) sure don't help.

Re:Wrong trend in two dimensions (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713081)

Until Apple comes out with a bigger screen, slimmer iPhone 5, to which you'll then aver that it's the perfect size.

Re:Wrong trend in two dimensions (1)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713245)

Agreed, if they doubled the thickness with batteries that would be amazing.

Yes (1)

BradleyUffner (103496) | more than 2 years ago | (#40712989)

I would carry around a cinder-block if it had everything I want in a smart phone.

Yes I do, thanks for asking (5, Insightful)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713001)

I personally like the larger screen devices that are going on the market. Being a male of above average height and hand size, these kinds of phones are just as easy for me to carry, and offer a better visual experience (after all why have such a powerful smartphone if you are limited to 3.5" of screen space). Surely the larger phones aren't for everyone, and to that end there are still smaller screened phones you can buy, no one is making you buy a large screen phone. Choice is good!

LG Optimus Slider (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713003)

I got the LG Optimus Slider (3.2" screen) because it has the largest physical (sliderout) keyboard possible while still fitting comfortably in my pocket along with my keys and other stuff I carry all the time. I wouldn't mind a slightly taller phone (I have deep pockets), but I wouldn't want it to be any wider and certainly no thicker. My primary reason for a smartphone was email and some very light web browsing/GPS. Angry Birds works ok on it, but I'd be just as happy playing Tetris on my old Tracfone to pass the time. If I want to watch Netflix or use most apps, I'd be much more comfortable with my Nook Color (which still fits in my pocket, but only if you remove the cover and don't put anything else in the pocket).

Yes, bigger (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713011)

I bought a 3.7" phone last year, my first android or iOS device and I thought I wanted one of the smaller, but still "full power" models. I'm now eager to switch to a GS3 and a lot of that is the 4.8" screen. Somewhere between 4 and 5 inches the screen finally gets big enough to not fumble everything I try to type. And it's nearly big enough to actually see the games you're playing.

I think this 4.5" size is probably close to ideal for me. I might change my mind when I actually get a bigger phone I suppose.

Seems like... (1)

DWMorse (1816016) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713019)

This seems like it'd be better suited as a poll with options. That being said:

I like the size of the iPhone because it's just the right size. Regardless of whether Jobs would bless my holding-technique, it fits right in there, and my average-sized mitts can reach the whole screen without needing two hands. On the rare occasion I find my phone accidentally being held Landscape, I'm often initially awkward in putting two hands on the device. Just doesn't feel right.

I had a brief fling with a Droid X last year. The nice thing was the screen the size of a toaster. The problem was... the screen the size of a toaster. There were times I'd reach for an icon and... can't quite get there, damnit, ok, shift the phone a little in my hand, retry, nnngghh ok got it. Frustrating.

I compared the Lumia 800 vs 900 size (1)

davepermen (998198) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713049)

The bigger size was too big for my taste. I'm glad that there are choices. Yes. The top phones will be the big ones, but smaller ones will most likely always exist side by side.

G-NOTE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713055)

GT-N7000 Galaxy Note
Got one live it!!!!

Yes, it is! (2)

rodrigoandrade (713371) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713057)

Just look at the sales numbers for things like Galaxy Note, Galaxy S3, and HTC One X.

Huge screens = huge sales.

Personally, I'm salivating over the Gaaxy Note 2, which should have an even bigger screen than the original.

Big Phones? No. Small Computers (5, Interesting)

toygeek (473120) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713063)

They are small computers with phones built in. Anymore, people use Bluetooth headsets to talk, so hold a big thing up isn't a big deal. And when they text, which people do far more than talk anymore, on average, people want big screens and keyboards. Same goes for web browsing, pictures, etc. So, the trend is to provide a smaller portable computer and communication (and tracking, depending on who you listen to) device.

The focus has shifted.

Re:Big Phones? No. Small Computers (3, Insightful)

eobanb (823187) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713273)

I honestly do not know anyone who uses a Bluetooth headset regularly. I only make a handful of calls a day, lasting 3-4 minutes at most, so a Bluetooth headset would just be more trouble than it's worth.

Re:Big Phones? No. Small Computers (1)

shimage (954282) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713395)

I guess my hands are just on the small side (although I wear medium size gloves) because a 4.5" screen is too big for me. I have a difficult time swyping one-handed on my wife's Galaxy SII. The same task is considerably easier on my Bravo, which even has a higher resolution screen than the SII. Personally, I find having to hold the phone with both hands to be an annoyance, but maybe that's just me.

galaxy note (1)

kennethmci (1472923) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713065)

i own a galaxy note - and yes, its on the big side. but when anyone asks - i always say that the thing i now do LEAST on my phone, is phone! so for people who spend more time on the web, streaming films, playing games etc. then i think a big screen is perfect - and i agree with another poster - people vote with their wallets - and larger screen phones are being purchased in huge numbers. i personally think if apple brought out a phone with a large ( over 4 inch ) screen with a great battery they'd be onto a winner! FYI - i'm on a phone contract in the UK, that gives truly unlimited data ( no fair usage caps ) - so a large screen, plus netflix = great!

Re:galaxy note (1)

ieatcookies (1490517) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713251)

But what you do most is carry it around. Give me a small smartphone and a good tablet and I'm set.

Droid X big enough for me (1)

Thuktun (221615) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713071)

I wouldn't want anything bigger than my Droid X. It's big enough to use the screen for maps and browsing but small enough to hold for phone purposes.

If I had anything significantly bigger, I'd likely have to rely on a Bluetooth accessories all the time.

Whatever your Used to (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713087)

Its just what people are used to. I have a samsung galaxy note (5.3" screen), and what i ask myself now when using other peoples phones is why they would ever want to use something so tiny as an iPhone!

Hardware keyboard (1)

wiedzmin (1269816) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713091)

I don't want a bigger screen, I want a good phone with a solid hardware keyboard. As of right now there is virtually no alternatives to BlackBerry Bold 9900 or maybe Droid Pro (slide out keyboards don't count, they're barely better than on-screen ones and make the device size balloon even worse than large screens)... I'm sure majority of consumers want to watch videos and play videogames on their mobile devices - I want to keep using mine for communicating and a hardware keyboard just cannot be beat.

Yes, it is what I want (1)

Scott Wunsch (417) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713093)

I bought a Galaxy Note, and I love it. I'm not going to put anything else in the same pocket with it anyway, so why not fully utilize that space? The screen size makes it so much more generally useful than phones I've had in the past.

It's OK if there is choice. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713103)

For me something the size of an iPhone is about right but a little heavy. The climate here is suitable for shorts for over half of the year. I've got a wallet, car keys and a phone to fit in shorts pockets. I've had belt hanging thingy's for the phone but they scream "rob me" too loudly and, in my opinion, don't look good. Also I've tangled them in seatbelts and wrenched them off my belt more than a few times. The iPhone fits the pocket but sometimes it's like a lead brick in there.

So, personally I don't want a bigger phone. I don't mind the trend towards bigger phones as long as I have a choice of a smaller one. What I see too often is all of the manufacturers follow each other and extinguish choice.

Gonna need a Murse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713107)

Bring back the Murse........

Samsung Note is hecka big (1)

Picass0 (147474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713123)

I'm fine with a slightly larger phone as long as it's comfortable in my jeans pocket. The iphone screen is too small IMHO and I don't like typing on it. I like a big more screen real easte.

Last night was the first time I was able to demo a Galaxy 3. I held it next to my Galaxy S2 (Sprint epic touch version) The G3 is a hair longer because it has rounded edges. The screen is .5 inches longer and it's mostly accomplished by having less bezel area. I'm fine with that kind of change.

The Samsung Note is another story. That phone is huge. I don't want a phone the size of a Kindle fire.

Ever post something on /. you wish you could edit? (1)

Picass0 (147474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713201)

Somewhere a 3rd grade teacher is telling me to write "I like a bit more screen real estate" on a chalk board 300 times.

Can we have an edit button like everyone else please?

Have to disagree (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713157)

I just switched from the iPhone 4 to the Samsung Galaxy S3. As the OP was about size i'll limit my glowing to just physical dimensions. The phone is surprisingly light and fits easily in my pocket, even with the huge 4.8 inch screen. In no way does it feel over-sized or cumbersome.

Big screen for me please (1)

Iguru42 (530641) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713177)

I do want a bigger phone. I currently use an iPhone 4 and would love to have a 4.3 (or whatever the new defacto larger standard is) inch screen, but then again, I'm a big guy 6'4" so all things being relative, the iPhone is currently damn near tiny as far as I'm concerned.

NO LARGE SCREENS PLZ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713179)

I DO NOT WANT a screen larger than the current iPhone...it's dumb. Might as well get an iPad or something of the sort.

Yes. (3, Insightful)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713181)

I want the biggest screen that fits comfortable in my pocket. Thin and light would be good, too.

YMMV (1)

jtseng (4054) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713197)

Sure, this guy may not want to supersize his smartphone, but he doesn't speak for me or other people who may want the functionality of a smartphone with the usability of a tablet. Either the author doesn't realize different devices fit different needs, or the author wasn't able to think of a more interesting or pressing issue to write about.

Form vs. Function (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713199)

I want the best screen to watch movies and play games on my phone. That's my Function and I'll buy the Form to match.

I have a 4.3" qHD phone now and if I could get 720p HD or even 1080p HD and stay with the same size, I would. I don't want it bigger, but Function trumps Form in my book.

Just buy a small one if you don't like a big one (2)

tp1024 (2409684) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713205)

It's that easy. Why do people keep making prescriptions that would affect absolutely everyone, just because they personally don't like something?

If you want a small phone, buy one, period.

Anything else is just saying that your taste and your desires are more important than anybody else's. That's just not true and sure sign of pure arrogance.

HP Veer perfect size (1)

mlippert (526036) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713207)

Actually I've got an HP Veer which I really love. It is the perfect size (not for general surfing the web, but for checking email, the all important google to name an actor, and for just carrying around in my pocket).

I really like the Web OS also, and it really sucks that HP released the phone and then killed it 2 months later (I did buy a 2nd one because there's nothing else being sold right now that compares!)

Now if I was carrying the phone in a bag of some sort, a bigger phone probably wouldn't be an issue. However even a 4 inch screen really isn't big enough for comfortable web browsing, I think you need a 7" tablet for that.

In a phone? No. (2)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713249)

I had an Android phone, and now I have an iPhone - but if the rumored 7.85" iPad comes out, I'm seriously thinking about carrying that and a small dumb phone instead.

I've seen the big phones, and their screens seem like the worst of both worlds... still too small to really be useful, but big enough where the size starts to be something you have to think about. Given that I hardly ever make phone calls, I think what I'd really like is a smallish tablet that happens to have phone hardware built-in - but it would have to have the ability to vibrate/ring/alarm to really replace a phone for me. Such a device would fit in the cargo pants I usually wear or in the coat pocket I've got handy 9 months out of the year.

Bigger or smaller (0)

angel'o'sphere (80593) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713265)

Well, currently I'm using an iPhone 4S.
90% of its functionallity (preinstalled Apps etc.) I never use. Browsing the web I do very rarely on the phone as most of the time I have my iPAd with me.

I would prefer either a bigger iPhone, one inch in every direction, so I can utilize the apps better, or a much smaller one, focused on the most important stuff.

If you could get rid of the black unused part of the screen on top and the bottom of the iPhone, I think half the size, basically a square, would be perfect for phoning and text messages, an occational email and some random web browsing.

Hardcore Market Trend! (0)

sudstah (2631313) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713269)

Here is my take on this, with windows 8 upcoming which will truly create a full desktop pc experience on desktop pc's, tablets and smart-phones, the only really latter device that you carry with you practically 24/7 is a smartphone. Tablets are also extremely convenient but most people don't carry them around with them all of the time because of the size, even the 7inch 1s. The galaxy note has filled the void of were somebody wants a tablet experience with them 24/7 and the obvious solution is to make a smartphone that you already carry all the time into a semi tablet experience which is just as good as a 10inch tablet in terms of use. This is an extremely attractive proposal because you get full desktop experience, full app tablet experience and the battery life that will last you easily for a full days use, and with quad core processors round the corner smart-phones have the grunt to do this as well.

It's all relative (3, Funny)

RollingThunder (88952) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713271)

As somebody that sold the Motorola "book" cell phones back in the early 90's, I find it funny calling these tiny things "huge and heavy".

Yes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713277)

Bigger is better as long as the device fits comfortably in my pocket like my Galaxy Note.

RE: a huge, heavy lump of tech in their pocket (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713299)

I have a Samsung S3 which weighs less than any of the iPhones. I don't think the trend is that phones are getting appreciably heavier.

While in 2 dimensions the phones are large, they are thin enough to fit in most pockets comfortably.

The issue I have is with usability. I have large hands and sometimes struggle to reach all parts of the screen without resorting to two handed use. YMMV

Don't supersize (0)

WankerWeasel (875277) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713325)

Best friend is all about having a bigger and bigger phone. He wants a small tablet to carry around basically. I'm perfectly fine with the current size of my iPhone and would like it to stay that way. I want a phone I can carry around in any type of pants (jeans or dress). I have a tablet but I don't want to carry it with me everywhere.

Screen Size (1)

Muramas95 (2459776) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713329)

People have it in their mind that a larger screen size is better even if the end process is not. I have a co-worker who bought the Galaxy Note because of how big it was even though the Nexus / S3 was better than it in all other regards.

Convergence (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713331)

In the other side of the spectrum, tablets are getting smaller. So next article would be "Don't undersize my tablet"?

phone/pants connector problem! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713359)

I wear these

https://www.epropper.com/products/131/productgroup/2/PROPPER%99_Men_s_Tactical_Pant_-_Lightweight.htm

or the shorts version

They have a pocket on the side that is suspiciously iPhone-shaped.

a) I don't want an iPhone
b) I don't want to pay $30 for a phone-shaped holster, if I have a special pocket just for phones in pants that are cheaper (for me) than jeans.
c) where's my 4G Android 4.1 OS that's iPhone-sized??

grr, argh...

I couldn't disagree more (1)

JestersGrind (2549938) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713363)

I just bought a Galaxy S3 two days ago. It's huge and I absolutely love it. As long as it fits in my pocket, the bigger the better.

Personally, I don't want them bigger (1)

cje (33931) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713369)

I have an IPhone 4S, and it's about the right size for me. Most days, I wear jeans to work, and anything bigger than the IPhone would be uncomfortable to carry around in my front pocket (not to mention cumbersome to take out when I need to answer it). I can see the benefits to having a larger screen with a higher resolution, but the bottom line is you have to drag it around with you.

There's always the option of using a belt clip, which would make it easier to carry around a phone with a larger form factor, but I just don't like that from an aesthetic perspective. To me, it's a compromise between screen size/resolution and convenience, and I'm perfectly happy with the 3.5" screen.

4" or Bust. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713381)

I like the iPhone but I would like it a little bigger. I HATE all of these behemoth 4.5-6" phones. I want something that rests comfortably in my palm but still has maximum screen real estate.

Why are technology writers so insufferable? (2)

not already in use (972294) | more than 2 years ago | (#40713383)

When technology writers happen upon a slow news day, it seems the first thing that comes to mind is to cry about something meaningless. Often times, it's a trend driven by consumer demand that they don't particularly like, that they're not at all obligated to take part in. Seriously, what's next, somebody crying that that the packaging for some tablet device isn't aesthetically pleasing enough?

HTC Aria (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40713389)

The HTC Aria is a fantastic size 103.8 x 57.7 x 11.7mm, but at this point the hardware is a bit outdated.
Hopefully someone puts out a 100mm Android 4 phone soon, I'm about ready to update.

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