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Analyzing Tweets To Identify Psychopaths

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the except-ones-who-know-of-the-model dept.

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nonprofiteer writes "Researchers presenting at Defcon next week have developed a psychopathy prediction model for Twitter. It analyzes linguistic tells to rate users' levels of narcissism, machiavellianism and other similarities to Patrick Bateman. 'The FBI could use this to flag potential wrongdoers, but I think it's much more compelling for psychologists to use to understand large communities of people,' says Chris Sumner of the Online Privacy Foundation. Some of the Twitter clues: Curse words. Angry responses to other people, including swearing and use of the word "hate." Using the word "we." Using periods. Using filler words such as 'blah' and 'I mean' and 'um.' So, um, yeah."

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There's a rumor going around (4, Insightful)

Dunbal (464142) | about 2 years ago | (#40722565)

I hear that if you measure their skulls you can also spot murderers. I will call this science phrenology!

Re:There's a rumor going around (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722579)

I hear that if you measure their skulls you can also spot murderers. I will call this science phrenology!

The difference being that phrenology measures a person's physical attributes (like classifying someone as a criminal because they're black), whilst this system classifies people based on their actions and ideas (content of their character).

Re:There's a rumor going around (5, Insightful)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 2 years ago | (#40722835)

No, this system tries to predict the future by reading posts on twitter. Could a certain percentage of people who commit violent crime share the common trait of psychopathy? Certainly. Do all? No. In fact, a rather large percentage of the population are psychopathic, yet lead normal, non-violent lives. Far more people that are not psychopathic commit crimes than those with psychopathy.

The end result of this research is rather clear: Watch what you say on the internet, the FBI might flag you. And that's a far more dangerous threat than a few psychopaths walking around. If you look at the biggest mass murders in human history, every single one of them was a government official. Think about that for a while.

Re:There's a rumor going around (2)

Oligonicella (659917) | about 2 years ago | (#40723053)

"whilst this system classifies people based on their actions and ideas"

No it doesn't. There's no follow up going on to match the words to people's subsequent actions. And please, the use of periods? What does that indicate? Grammar? How about my immediate excessive use of the question mark?

"(content of their character)."
Even further horseshit. There's no correlation betwixt grammar and character.

Asimov had it wrong, there is no such math.

Re:There's a rumor going around (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40723121)

And please, the use of periods? What does that indicate? Grammar? How about my immediate excessive use of the question mark?

Don't dismiss it- it's already well-established that excessive use of exclamation marks and unshifted numbers demonstrates low intelligence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111

Re:There's a rumor going around (1)

alphatel (1450715) | about 2 years ago | (#40722593)

Your Amativeness and Causality lead me to conclude a great reduction in your Alimentiveness and Form, therefor life in prison for you, my Philprogentiveness friend!

Re:There's a rumor going around (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722631)

my Philprogentiveness friend!

That is one long, undefinable, frustrating word!

Re:There's a rumor going around (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722677)

So, um, yeah. We hate your bla bla bullshit. I mean "research".

Re:There's a rumor going around (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722747)

This article is absolutely ridiculous and I pray it is shot down my mainstream psychologists because it's not fair at all. I am a law-abiding citizen who works a full-time job and spends much of my downtime educating myself and hanging out with friends. I have hobbies, I have a beautiful family, and I am a very good person. Many of the things in this article have applied to me throughout my life and I am disgusted that they would even begin their psychopath search in this manner.

Fucking incredible.

Re:There's a rumor going around (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722839)

I am a very good person. Many of the things in this article have applied to me

You seem narcissistic. I predict you will be the next Batman murderer. Please report to room 101 for preventive measures to be taken. Think of the children.

Re:There's a rumor going around (1)

postbigbang (761081) | about 2 years ago | (#40722895)

Having regrets over all of those nasty and violent tweets, are you? Should've thought about what might happen if you babbled about listening to those voices, and where to get that ammo online.

Time to get back into therapy now, and start taking those meds that you've eschewed all this time.

Or they'll nail your ass. Is that them knocking at the door? Did you hide everything?

Re:There's a rumor going around (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40723165)

You might not be a sociopath, but you seem to be retarded.

OBVIOUSLY they are not saying that whoever uses the word "hate" once on Twitter is a sociopath. OBVIOUSLY they look at things such as the frequency at which a person uses these words, and whether they use several of these words.

A normal person can say 'hate' or insult people or get angry once in a while or whatever...
A sociopath is likely to do MANY of these things OFTEN.

If you still don't get it, here is an example:
A car has wheels, doors, an engine and many other things that make it a car.
Something with a door, nobody concludes that it's a car - it could also be a house.
Something with wheels, nobody concludes that it's a car - it could be a wheelbarrow.
Something with an engine, nobody concludes that it's a car - it could be a water pump.
But if you see an object that has doors, wheels and an engine, then there's a high chance that it's a car (yes I know, it could be a truck too, therefore we need a little more information. But at least we have ruled out house, wheelbarrow, water pump and many other things).
Does it make sense now?

I'm sorry but you don't need to be very smart to realize this. Maybe next time try thinking before you start questioning the capacity of experts. I know in this day and age it's fun to scream "Scientists are stupid and crazy!" but that's the reason why there are people today who don't vaccinate their kids, so anybody who engages in this sort of behavior deserves to be reprimanded.
Feel free to question and criticize bad experts all you want, but in this case not only are you wrong but you clearly didn't think very long about the issue before forming an opinion.

Re:There's a rumor going around (5, Funny)

ivoras (455934) | about 2 years ago | (#40722851)

Of course, the real insight is Reverse Phrenology! Kicking people in the head to make them better people!

Good-Bye Civil Rights (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722571)

I can see this not ending well. Just another nail in the coffin

Re:Good-Bye Civil Rights (3, Interesting)

craigminah (1885846) | about 2 years ago | (#40722661)

Try doing this with skin color, religion, race, sexual preference, etc. and you'll quickly find an angry torch-wielding mod at your front door. Switching things up to look at parameters perceived to be under the control of the person and it's ok. Kind of ironic people don't see this as an even bigger potential threat to civil rights than anything else. Like anything, this will start of with good intentions and be limited in scope (e.g. Twitter) but soon, if funded, it will be used for evil and be linked to Google's database to refill prisons around the USA. Yay.

Re:Good-Bye Civil Rights (1)

ganjadude (952775) | about 2 years ago | (#40723293)

I wonder if a discrimination on the grounds of the style of speech on chooses to use could be attempted if someone from the ABC of your choice arrested you for tweets

Using Periods? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722575)

Bullshit. Using periods is simply properly using the English language. (And expletives have their proper place as well--although this one is more ironic than angry :) )

Re:Using Periods? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722605)

Bullshit. Using periods is simply properly using the English language. (And expletives have their proper place as well--although this one is more ironic than angry :) )

Fucking.a.right.

Re:Using Periods? (5, Funny)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | about 2 years ago | (#40722613)

What are you, some sort of psychopath? Flag him!

Re:Using Periods? (1)

AchilleTalon (540925) | about 2 years ago | (#40723131)

Notice from your favorite social media staff: I'm sorry, but due to your inappropriate use of periods, you are banned from our social media. We found you are in fact just asocial.

Re:Using Periods? (1)

AchilleTalon (540925) | about 2 years ago | (#40723141)

Notice to your favorite social media staff: I'm sorry, but due to your inappropriate use of profiling methods, you are banned from my list of social media. In fact, I just found you are an asocial media.

Re:Using Periods? (1)

kenh (9056) | about 2 years ago | (#40722675)

I agree, to me this points out the trivial nature of their 'research' - can I safely assume that a slavish insistence that all the words in your tweets be spelled properly is the hallmark of a feeble mind, and that truly intelligent users have mastered so-called TXT-speak?

Re:Using Periods? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722771)

Damn right. Who do these know-it-alls think they are. I mean, who doesn't hate judgmental people. We cannot let this pseudo science stand.

Full stops (1)

Roger W Moore (538166) | about 2 years ago | (#40722871)

Using periods is simply properly using the English language.

Not quite, if you are properly using the English language (and not American) you can only use periods to identify female psychopaths.

Re:Using Periods? (1)

swalve (1980968) | about 2 years ago | (#40723281)

My guess is that in an environment where brevity and casualness is the norm, using fully structured sentences and grammar is something that identifies the twitterer as A.B.Normal. (IE, failing to adhere to the social norms of the environment.) That trait itself doesn't mean anything, but combined with the other ones it can (presumably?) identify someone as being a psycho.

Really? (4, Insightful)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | about 2 years ago | (#40722583)

The ability to predict psychopaths in under 140 characters? What have all these mental health professionals been doing? All these face-to-face interviews, "sessions" and observations. Maybe if they submitted their reports in only 140 characters they would have figured all this out a long time ago. /sarcasm

Re:Really? (4, Insightful)

reub2000 (705806) | about 2 years ago | (#40722635)

Probably is bullshit. The twitter responses where compared to a survey. In other words they calibrated their instrument by simply asking people if they're a psychopath. Lets see, one of the most well known trait of psychopaths is their tendency to lie.

Re:Really? (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about 2 years ago | (#40722663)

Did I see a PERIOD there you psychopath stop Off to the happy home with you stop That is if the FBI do not come calling first stop

Re:Really? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722687)

Yes. If somebody uses Twitter, he can’t be right in his head in the first place. ^^

(There are only two types of "people" that use Twitter: 40+ midlife-crisis people who want to be "cool" again, and marketing companies posing as celebrities. No exceptions.)

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722767)

The ability to predict psychopaths in under 140 characters? What have all these mental health professionals been doing? All these face-to-face interviews, "sessions" and observations. Maybe if they submitted their reports in only 140 characters they would have figured all this out a long time ago. /sarcasm

I have a crazy idea... Maybe they use multiple tweets? Mind blowing, I know, but 2 tweets add up to 280 characters! Maybe you could even use 3! Or even more?!

Re:Really? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40723049)

The ability to predict psychopaths in under 140 characters? What have all these mental health professionals been doing? All these face-to-face interviews, "sessions" and observations. Maybe if they submitted their reports in only 140 characters they would have figured all this out a long time ago. /sarcasm

I have a crazy idea... Maybe they use multiple tweets? Mind blowing, I know, but 2 tweets add up to 280 characters! Maybe you could even use 3! Or even more?!

A longitudinal tweetment?

Re:Really? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722979)

"The ability to predict psychopaths in under 140 characters?"

***Psychopath test***
You think your crap is worth following? Check!
You follow the crap of strangers you have never seen? Check!

If one or more of the above are checked, congratulations, you're a Psychopath.

Bullshit. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722587)

By these qualifications, every twelve year old is a psychopath. Also, seriously, using periods? You mean, as in proper fucking writing? What else, proper capitalization of sentences and pronouns?

Re:Bullshit. (2)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#40722699)

By these qualifications, every twelve year old is a psychopath. Also, seriously, using periods? You mean, as in proper fucking writing? What else, proper capitalization of sentences and pronouns?

Maybe "anal retentive" is a slippery slope toward "psychopathic".

Re:Bullshit. (1)

azalin (67640) | about 2 years ago | (#40722725)

By these qualifications, every twelve year old is a psychopath. Also, seriously, using periods? You mean, as in proper fucking writing? What else, proper capitalization of sentences and pronouns?

In my experience being twelve and hitting puberty won't exactly result in stable persona. It takes them a while to get used to the changes in their live.

analyzing people (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722595)

analyzing people that are telling jokes, that's like trying to analyze Donald Duck.

Mitt Romney @MittRomney (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722599)

Ron Paul’s “Audit The Fed” bill is a reminder of his tireless efforts to promote sound money and a more transparent Federal Reserve.

Re:Mitt Romney @MittRomney (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#40722705)

Ron Paul’s “Audit The Fed” bill is a reminder of his tireless efforts to promote sound money and a more transparent Federal Reserve.

Now *that'* is indicative of a psychopath.

I especially note your use of rsquo, ldquo, and rdquo, and the absence of lsquo. We'll send *two* padded wagons to pick you up.

Re:Mitt Romney @MittRomney (1)

value_added (719364) | about 2 years ago | (#40722739)

I especially note your use of rsquo, ldquo, and rdquo, and the absence of lsquo.

I don't keep up. Is that Portuguese or Esperanto?

Re:Mitt Romney @MittRomney (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722791)

They are ISO character entities, without the amps. They can be used in Portuguese, Esperanto, English, and most other languages.

Analyzing myself (5, Interesting)

KiloByte (825081) | about 2 years ago | (#40722611)

> Curse words.
Hardly any, but mostly due to many years on a MUD with strict rules. Abusing "damn" and so on, though.

> Angry responses to other people
Hell yeah.

> including swearing and use of the word "hate."
Got a bigger vocabulary, but yeah.

> Using the word "we."
Check, to a big extent.

> Using periods.
You mean, so those with no punctuation are not morons but normal people? Blah. Check.

> Using filler words such as 'blah'
See above.

> and 'I mean'
Check.

>and 'um.'
"hrm", "hmm" and "ghrmblah" (see also two paragraphs above)

So, you mean, is there any hope for me?

Re:Analyzing myself (4, Funny)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | about 2 years ago | (#40722643)

So, you mean, is there any hope for me?

Sure there is. First, you'll seek twitter therapy and twitter assimilation resistance resistance. If that succeeds your tweets will be indistinguishable from 99% of the population (and most of your followers will finally be able to understand them).

If your TT&TARR fails you'll have to go to twitter court (most trials are very short) or simply go to twitter confessions and throw yourself on the mercy of 12 randomly selected twitter addicts. Once you're sentenced to twitter prison (where all you say and read are tweets) you'll be able to start paying your debt to the twitterverse. When the time comes for your parole review they'll analyze your tweets during your sentence to determine if you're ready for early tweetlease or if you need to try harder.

So yes, there is hope for you ... though not much hope for society at large if we're making DSM-V quality diagnoses based on twitter (unless we're determining that those who use twitter really have too much time on their hands).

Re:Analyzing myself (1)

KiloByte (825081) | about 2 years ago | (#40722665)

First, you'll seek twitter therapy and twitter assimilation resistance resistance.

No sane, or insane-but-ok person reads twitter already. Nullroute the blighters. I meant mailing lists and IRC. Twitter is hardly better than Fecesbook.

your tweets will be indistinguishable from 99% of the population

Since 99% of world's population doesn't use twitter, this is already done.

Re:Analyzing myself (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722765)

did you say MUD? I am feel old when I try to explain to 20 somethings one of my past times in the early nineties staying in the Unix lab with a bottle of Mountain Dew, can of priggles and getting lost in a MUD. They have no clue.

Re:Analyzing myself (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40723109)

Wait, what 20-somethings know what a Unix Lab is without knowing what a MUD is? I spent hours of time in class in high school covertly playing MUDs because unlike other games, to the average high school teacher, text on a screen means "work". Most of the gamer friends I have are well aware of MUDs as well, though I wouldn't say all put much time into them at any point. And in case it wasn't apparent, yea, I'm a 20-something.

Re:Analyzing myself (1)

hort_wort (1401963) | about 2 years ago | (#40722855)

So, you mean, is there any hope for me?

Just don't use Twitter and you'll be fine. That's the biggest thing I got out of it.

What a dumb idea... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722619)

Yeah right, have these people looked at the comments posted on youtube ?
Freaking criminals, all of them. :)

as my last therapist advised (2)

aheadinabox (936810) | about 2 years ago | (#40722629)

Psychotherapy and analysis is as much art as it is science. So in light of that little gem of info, why not analyze tweets. Might as well read tea leaves.

Re:as my last therapist advised (1)

azalin (67640) | about 2 years ago | (#40722751)

Well better tea leaves, than the intestines of small animals. Even though the later practice has been quite popular in Europe in the days before tea leaves were widely available, it is somewhat frowned upon today. Performing hepatoscopy on a regular basis, might even flag you as an psychopath these days.

Re:as my last therapist advised (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722977)

When any evidence can be used to support any theory, it's all art and no science. It's why real scientists have no respect for it. Post-1980s psychological theories and therapies (e.g., CBT, DBT, etc.) are a little better, but not by much -- just look at their refusal to use real placebos or direct comparisons to other talk therapies in studies. Psychiatry's the best of the bunch, but that's really not saying much.

Re:as my last therapist advised (1)

UpnAtom (551727) | about 2 years ago | (#40723155)

As a psychotherapist, I can say "spot on".

On the other hand, in order to eliminate variables and attempt the holy grail of double-blind testing, treatments are dumbed down into near uselessness.

Thus the interventions which are getting recognised by science are those which are ultra-simple: EMDR and CBT.

Of course, it's impossible to do any skilled face-to-face intervention as a double-blind experiment. When the scientific community recognises this, we'll be comparing therapy to therapy, or even therapist to therapist.

Re:as my last therapist advised (1)

beaverdownunder (1822050) | about 2 years ago | (#40723309)

As an aside: the problem with CBT is, to paraphrase AA, it "only works if you work it".

I went from being cripplingly OCD and agoraphobic to functional enough to do some pretty extraordinary things from that perspective entirely on the back of CBT, with no medication. But I WANTED to, and I think that's the real key with CBT.

Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled Slashdotting...

Narcissism? (2)

humanrev (2606607) | about 2 years ago | (#40722637)

rate users' levels of narcissism

If Twitter users are anything like Facebook's, then if you're trying to use narcissism as a rating for psychopathic behavior you're gonna get a LOT of hits.

Re:Narcissism? (3)

jaymemaurice (2024752) | about 2 years ago | (#40722679)

My awesome facebook profile is narcissism free. I only use facebook to show others me doing the awesome things I have done so they can comment in ways that make me feel good... but the band Carcass is good, just not interesting as me.

90% of people who post online Psychopaths (1)

Seizurebleak (2020360) | about 2 years ago | (#40722641)

Almost all the comments I see on the internet are narcissistic and/or angry.

The use of the period doesn't really surprise me, the biggest internet wankers absolutely relish in using perfect grammar, probably because it makes them feel superior to everybody else.

Re:90% of people who post online Psychopaths (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722671)

I wouldn't expect psychopaths to post very many angry comments, primarily because they cannot feel anger.

Re:90% of people who post online Psychopaths (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40723085)

I wouldn't expect psychopaths to post very many angry comments, primarily because they cannot feel anger.

Thanks Doc, I feel better already.

Re:90% of people who post online Psychopaths (1)

jaymemaurice (2024752) | about 2 years ago | (#40722691)

The use of the period doesn't really surprise me. The biggest internet wankers absolutely relish in using perfect grammar; probably because it makes them feel superior to everybody else.

FBI dept of Pre-crime (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722645)

Using this to try to spot someone who’s going to commit a crime is going to result in catching people who aren’t going to.

But they'll use for that purpose. precedent - TSA. We search EVERYONE without probably cause because EVERYONE is a potential terrorist.

What’s the best protection against getting a Klychopath score at some point in the future? “Make your tweets protected,” says Sumner,

Yeah, right. Like that has stopped our Government from snooping [slashdot.org] before [slashdot.org].

Twitter accounts of known psychopaths for testing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722657)

John Terry, Rio Ferdinand, Russell Brand.... cmdrtaco ? ;-)

Periods? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722669)

>"Using periods."

YOU DARE USE CORRECT GRAMMAR? YOU MUST DIE... or at least get life in prison

Re:Periods? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722805)

maybe..... umm.... perhaps they were talking about use of multiple periods.....

Um, yeah, right, so... every teenager in the world (1)

divisionbyzero (300681) | about 2 years ago | (#40722701)

will get flagged as a psychopath. Nice. What a stupid idea.

Re:Um, yeah, right, so... every teenager in the wo (1)

azalin (67640) | about 2 years ago | (#40722761)

will get flagged as a psychopath. Nice. What a stupid idea.

Well it's about time, puberty is officially recognized as a mental illness.

Re:Um, yeah, right, so... every teenager in the wo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722813)

No, you got it wrong; every teen who actually bothers to learn proper grammar will be flagged. I find it strange that neither capitalising I nor the first letter of a name or sentence is considered a sign of psychopathy.

Bruce Sterling - Distraction (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722721)

Bruce Sterling had an excellent take on this kind of technology in his book "Distraction". The US government had software to profile potential nutters, which they also lent to some less-than-savoury friends. These friends compiled their own lists of nutters, but instead of using it to track them they spammed the nutters with emails telling them to go and attack political opponents. So anyone these friends disliked had a steady series of violent and deranged people trying to kill them.

Wait, wait, I hope people aren't okay with this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722741)

"The FBI could use this to flag potential wrongdoers,"

Thought crimes!

Blah, blah, blah (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722785)

We. Hate. Using. Periods.

SEO guys will open a second business (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | about 2 years ago | (#40722825)

These Search Engine Optimization guys are well experienced in gaming the search engine algorithms. It will be child's play for them to game this twitter psychopath detection algorithms. They will branch off into side business,

"Are you afraid your tweets will trigger the FBI psychopath detection hot buttons? Are you afraid the Government jack booted thugs are going to knock down your door? Don't despair! Don't log off!! Tweet to your heart's content! Just subscribe to our UTR [*] service for just $9.99 a month and we will unobtrusively intervene and moderate your tweets! Your message will get through! FBI would not know. Subscribe now.

[*] UTR is the registered trademark of Under The Radar technologies, all rights reserved."

Now we won't be back to the square one. We would be back to the square negative 10. FBI is overloaded with the false positives. The real psychopaths are laughing at you too.

I Fucking Hate... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722829)

I fucking hate stupidity like this being passed off as "sciency". I mean, next up they'll claim to use palm scanners to determine my future actions. Blah! We need to vote these types of articles down. It's worthless shit!

I guess the only thing between me and a psychopath is that I don't use The Twitter.

Idiots!

So, basically, speaking English. (3, Insightful)

Arancaytar (966377) | about 2 years ago | (#40722845)

Some of the Twitter clues: Curse words. Angry responses to other people, including swearing and use of the word "hate." Using the word "we." Using periods. Using filler words such as 'blah' and 'I mean' and 'um.

Speaking English either formally or informally and either without emotion or with emotion. I have also heard that almost all of them breathed regularly and wore clothing. Those are relevant clues that might help recognize the next one early.

On the other hand, that they all owned assault weapons is purely a coincidence.

Re:So, basically, speaking English. (1)

BlueStrat (756137) | about 2 years ago | (#40722953)

"On the other hand, that they [psychopaths] all owned assault weapons is purely a coincidence."

So I guess all the slashers, stranglers, people who drop someone off a building, hit them with a car, set little kids on fire, or cops that kill somebody they've arrested while the victim is in handcuffs and face-down, or leaders that convince an entire nation to commit mass genocide (after first disarming the populace) are all shining beacons of sanity.

Gramps, who owns and carries an AR-15 sport carbine on his large ranch in the S.W. needs to be institutionalized. Same for Yukon Bob living in the Alaskan wilderness carrying a sport carbine.

Got it.

Strat

Re:So, basically, speaking English. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40723055)

A tendency to vehemently attack any criticism of private gun ownership are a common theme as well. I'll make a note to steer clear of any movie theaters you frequent.

Re:So, basically, speaking English. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40723285)

+1 funny

...ellipses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722897)

Thrice evil...

Implying those qualities are illegal (2)

loufoque (1400831) | about 2 years ago | (#40722945)

So basically, they're implying that if you're narcissist or machiavellianist, which are both valid of traits of human nature, you should be arrested?
What a nice display of tolerance.

Re:Implying those qualities are illegal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40723157)

Especially since if you want to identify physhopaths, just go find CEOs, politicians, banksters, etc. oh, wait, I just used punctuation. Uh-oh.

Um, so I don't get this fucking article at all. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722951)

I mean, we all know what these assholes at the FBI are all about. Its idiots like those that are ruining the god-damned internet. Blah! I hate when they do stuff like that!

What's the predictive power? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40722973)

Like most of the headline grabbing data-mining 'studies' they don't say what the predictive power is.

Looking at the leaderboard of the kaggle competition you can see the winner has an average accuracy of 0.86997 whereas random guessing gives 0.80657:
http://www.kaggle.com/c/twitter-psychopathy-prediction/leaderboard

How well can you predict an actual psychopath? Probably no better than by random guessing.

This kind of over-hyping and misapplication of 'data science' is a blight on the field.

Re:What's the predictive power? (1)

UpnAtom (551727) | about 2 years ago | (#40723167)

What the heck is MCAP? Surely they're not using a sample where 80.657% are 'psychopaths'?

What do you do with the data? (1)

seven of five (578993) | about 2 years ago | (#40723005)

All right. So the business about scanning tweets is kind of silly. But identifying dangerous psychopaths has value, if we can prevent things like mass shootings. What if some other technique worked? Would you put the names in a database? Lock people up just to be sure? If the FBI had this magic information, what would they do with it?

Psycho-tweet (1)

roman_mir (125474) | about 2 years ago | (#40723027)

There is nothing wrong with psychopaths, it's the so called 'normal' people that we should be all wary about.

wow, so relevant (1)

eyenot (102141) | about 2 years ago | (#40723031)

Now, I'm not going to read the article, because the poster decided to make a reference to a fictional character. Patrick Batman isn't a real person, and has no bearing on any kind of studies of any relevance to any subject that might be of any use to actual criminal studies except in some oblique, culturally related way. Could watching too many movies make you do stupid things, even kill people? Yeah, I'm 88% certain of it. Does knowing that make me a criminal psychologist? No, no it doesn't.

Thanks a lot, there, SHERLOCK HOLMES!

CO Massacre Robert James Holmes DARPA CIA HNC (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40723051)

Colorado Movie Theater Massacre
July 20th, 2012

âoeThere is already conjecture that James Holmes may have been involved in mind-altering neuroscience researchâ

http://cryptogon.com/?p=30455 [cryptogon.com]

Where Did Robert Holmes, Father of James Holmes, Work Before 2000?

I would be interested in knowing where Robert Milton Holmes, the father of James Holmes, worked before 2000. If anyone has this information, please send it to me.

On his Linkedin profile Robert Holmes lists a University of California, Berkeley Ph.D. in Statistics from 1981. He currently works for FICO, but also lists working for HNC Software from 2000 to 2002. (HNC Software was acquired by FICO.)

We have a DARPA link in HNC Software.

This is from a 1999 company profile for HNC Software:

HNC Software Inc. is San Diegoâ(TM)s largest software company and develops predictive software solutions for business-to-consumer service companies. These solutions allow companies to make more intelligent and profitable decisions and are marketed to industries- including financial, insurance, retail, telecommunications and the Internet.

Like many San Diego-based software companies, HNC Software Inc. traces its origins to the defense industry. When the company was launched in 1986, it focused on defense-related research and development. But over the years as defense budgets shrank not only in San Diego, but nationwide, HNC quickly realized that in order to succeed and grow, other commercial applications had to be found for its products.

â¦

But perhaps the most exciting frontier awaiting exploration and commercial development by HNC is in an area that scientists still know very little about: the human brain. HNC is working on a long-term research project launched in 1998 that is jointly funded by HNC and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), part of the U.S. Defense Department, to investigate âcortronic neural networks,â(TM) a concept originally proposed by Robert Hecht-Nielsen, HNCâ(TM)s co-founder and chief scientist.

HNC hopes to develop new capabilities in the areas of textual, aural and visual representation, and to actually build three new predictive, neural-net based systems: one that reads, interprets and searches text more effectively; a second recognizing speech and other sounds, enabling users to perform audio searches; and a third that can scan for and interpret images. The ultimate goal is to integrate all three systems. The net result â" machines that someday might be able to reason like humans.

âoeThis is the most important scientific challenge of our time, and finding the answer will be the adventure of the millennium,â says Hecht-Nielsen.

â"

James Holmes: Accused Colorado Shooter Is Grandson of Decorated Veteran, Has Mamily Roots in Monterey County

Via: Contra Costa Times:

James Holmes, the man believed responsible for killing 12 people Friday during one of the largest mass shooting in U.S. history, is the grandson of a decorated military veteran who was a respected educator at prestigious York School in Monterey.

Lt. Col. Robert M. Holmes, who served in the Okinawa campaign during World War II, retired in 1963 as the last commander of the Nike missile group in San Francisco Bay. He was one of the first Turkish language students at the Army Language School, now the Defense Language Institute, graduating in 1948, a school spokesman confirmed Friday.

After his military retirement, Holmes taught math and science at York School for 17 years. He died in 1990. His wife, Mary Jane Crawford Holmes, attended Stanford University and worked at the Monterey City Library, Fort Ord Library and Pacific Grove High School before finishing her career as librarian and college counselor at York School. She died in 2010.

A 1945 graduate of Pacific Grove High School, she was also a member of numerous historical societies, including the Order of the Crown of Charlemagne, Descendants of the Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company of Boston and the Monterey Bay Colony of Mayflower Descendants, of which she served as governor.

Their personal histories, taken from their obituaries in The Monterey County Herald, are difficult to reconcile with the most indelible image of their 24-year-old grandson.

Research Credit: TR

â"

Colorado Batman Shooting Shows Obvious Signs of Being Staged

Research Credit: TR

â"

Flashback 2005: CIA Plans to Shift Work to Denver

Via: Washington Post:

The CIA has plans to relocate the headquarters of its domestic division, which is responsible for operations and recruitment in the United States, from the CIAâ(TM)s Langley headquarters to Denver, a move designed to promote innovation, according to U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials.

About $20 million has been tentatively budgeted to relocate employees of the CIAâ(TM)s National Resources Division, officials said. A U.S. intelligence official said the planned move, confirmed by three other government officials, was being undertaken âoefor operational reasons.â

A CIA spokesman declined to comment. Other current and former intelligence officials said the Denver relocation reflects the desire of CIA Director Porter J. Goss to develop new ways to operate under cover, including setting up more front corporations and working closer with established international firms.

â"

Update: âoeI am The Jokerâ

Via: AP:

Holmes was studying neuroscience in a Ph.D. program at the University of Colorado-Denver, university spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery said. Holmes enrolled a year ago and was in the process of withdrawing at the time of the shootings, Montgomery said.

ABC News reported that Holmes told police âoeI am the Joker,â according to NYPD police commissioner Ray Kelly. The report also says Holmes had died his hair like The Joker.

â"End Updateâ"

Via: CNN:

The man suspected of shooting up an Aurora, Colorado movie theater screening the new Batman film early Friday, killing 12 and wounding 59, also left his apartment rigged with traps, police said.

âoeItâ(TM)s booby trapped with various incindiery and chemical devices and trip wires,â Aurora police chief Dan Oates said, adding that it could take days to work through the apartment safely.

Five buildings around suspect James E. Holmesâ(TM) Aurora apartment were evacuated, Oates said.

Police say Holmes, 24, dressed head-to-toe in protective tactical gear, set off two devices of some kind before spraying the theater with bullets from an AR-15 rifle, a 12-gauge shotgun and at least one of two .40-caliber handguns police recovered at the scene.

Oates said investigators are confident that Holmes acted alone.

The shooting unfolded inside a darkened theater packed with Batman fans, some in costume for the premiere of the movie âoeThe Dark Knight Rises.â Screaming, panicked moviegoers scrambled to escape from the black-clad gunman, who wore a gas mask and randomly shot as he walked up the theaterâ(TM)s steps, witnesses said.

It was a scene âoestraight out of a horror film,â said Chris Ramos, who was inside the theater.

âoeHe was just literally shooting everyone, like hunting season,â Ramos said.

Holmes surrendered without resistance within minutes of the first calls from panicked moviegoers reporting a shooting inside the Century 16 theater, Oates said. He is scheduled to appear in court on Monday, court officials said.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-holmes/4/47b/24a [linkedin.com]
http://www.leavcom.com/hm_hnc.htm [leavcom.com]
http://www.contracostatimes.com/rss/ci_21124710?source=rss [contracostatimes.com]
http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html [naturalnews.com]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/05/AR2005050501860.html [washingtonpost.com]
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/national/james-holmes-suspected-aurora-colorado-dark-knight-rises-shooter-i-am-the-joker [abcactionnews.com]
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 [cnn.com]
http://theintelhub.com/2012/07/15/preparing-for-civil-war-chart-shows-dhs-has-bought-hundreds-of-millions-of-rounds-of-ammo-since-2009/ [theintelhub.com]

Why not expand the field a bit? (1)

Minwee (522556) | about 2 years ago | (#40723163)

DrDave Dave Holden
@leon You are in a desert, walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down...

Oh NOOOO (1)

cleveralias (1823186) | about 2 years ago | (#40723197)

no no, I am not a psychopath. I just work with a herd of alpha males and have to speak fluent alpha to interact with them.

Using Periods? (1)

Steve1952 (651150) | about 2 years ago | (#40723243)

Oh great, after years of grammar in er, grammar school, now I'll have to unlearn ending sentences with a period

Do we want pre-crime? (1)

trout007 (975317) | about 2 years ago | (#40723255)

Instead of the gun/anti-gun debate I think it would be more appropriate to talk about if we want to live in a surveillance state where our every action and word is scoured to see if we are a threat. I would prefer to have the police and courts concentrate on catching, prosecuting, and detaining people that have already committed a crime. The reason these types of crimes receive attention is because of how random and pointless they seem. But many more lives could be saved more cheaply if we would concentrate our efforts on keeping people behind bars that have been convicted of a violent crime and release everyone convicted of non-violent offenses.

Um (1)

badzilla (50355) | about 2 years ago | (#40723287)

I don't understand why Slashdot posts with "um" annoy me so much, but they do. Um often seems to accompany a reply when not only disagreeing with someone but implying that they were stupid as well. Maybe there is something to this research. Anyway, um-people, please put yourselves on the psycho list.

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