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16GB Nexus 7 Sold Out On Google Play Store

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the hot-cakes dept.

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hypnosec writes "Just days after it was officially made available on Google Play, Google's Nexus 7 16GB version has been sold out and is not available for order. Google's probable answer to Amazon's Kindle has been selling like hot cakes from day one, and was available with two different amounts on-board storage: 8GB and 16GB. Considering that people now-a-days want more space on their portable computing device, the 16GB version was selling more than its 8GB sibling. Another reason for the 16GB to outsell the 8GB variant is that the price difference between the two is just $50."

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$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735405)

n/t

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (1)

durrr (1316311) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735449)

For larger format tablets it's generally $100 for 16, same thing....

Anyway, are people buying the nexus 7 because they've been dreaming of a 7" tablet or because they've been dreaming of a sub-$300 tablet? Or did this catch on due to some other arcane explanation such as hype and everyone else buying one?

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735485)

No, it's because they can watch porn on it.

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (5, Insightful)

C_Kode (102755) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735493)

For me it was both.

Form factor of an eReader, power of an iPad, and half the price of an iPad.

I got a 16GB. I would have definitely bought a 32GB if it were available. I don't quite understand why they even produced an 8GB if it doesn't have an SD slot and doesn't have G4. If you drop a movie or two on it, you have no room left for your music, pictures, and other apps / data.

This thing would have been golden with an SD slot.

Compare to movie rentals (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735511)

If you drop a movie or two on it

How many movies does one usually get from the Redbox at once? Load one movie on, watch it, and load another on once you're back at fixed line broadband.

Re:Compare to movie rentals (1)

Grizzley9 (1407005) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735821)

Last I checked this didn't have a disc drive so the number of Redbox movies you'll be putting on it is zero.

Re:Compare to movie rentals (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735847)

You don't have a computer with a disk drive?

Handbrake is free and makes this very easy.

Re:Compare to movie rentals (2)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735963)

look man, fuck that. I used to roll with a 160gb ipod classic. I'd like a device that can really provide the same functionality. It's not like our summer cottages have redbox rentals near them. there's 3g though so spotify works.

the big space is good because then you don't have to decide in advance what you want to watch.

Re:Compare to movie rentals (2)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736091)

You can get this [archos.com] Archos Android tablet with 250GB of storage. Is that enough?

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735751)

What no G4 how will I watch Ninja Warrior!!! Also I got my Galaxy Tab from Google IO and it is TOTALLY worth it. It looks great, it feels great, it works great.

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (4, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735889)

I don't quite understand why they even produced an 8GB if it doesn't have an SD slot and doesn't have G4.

to promote tethering..
well, not really, it's to skimp on every possible buck and to promote googles cloud services.

and with no removable storage some circles within google can pretend it's secure. or will be. in future(tm). and by secure I mean "limit consumers access to media they just bought".

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736005)

It's not as convenient, but you should be able to use the USB OTG port for external storage. It may require some added software, however (stickmount, which requires root, seems to be commonly used).

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (1)

arkhan_jg (618674) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736271)

I got the 8GB version as once you include UK VAT, it's a £40 total difference - or 25% more expensive. And if I need much more space, then an extra slow 8GB isn't really going to cut it anyway. So I've got a micro-usb to USB OTB cable coming for a couple of quid, and can use my existing USB 32GB flash drives with it (with the stick mount app) to playback any amount of media on it when I'm travelling, and it means I don't have to faff about plugging the tablet itself in in advance. Factor in sugar sync/google music/online photo storage/plex the rest of the time when I have wifi or 3G, and I don't see it being much of a problem.

Successor to Kindle Fire (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735501)

Anyway, are people buying the nexus 7 because they've been dreaming of a 7" tablet or because they've been dreaming of a sub-$300 tablet?

If either of those, they would have bought the Kindle Fire.

Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (4, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735689)

Not if they wanted pure android.

Which is why I am getting one. I have a nook running CM7 and a nicer device in the form factor running real android is exactly what I have been waiting for.

Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735781)

I love CM7 on my Nook Color but it's not the most stable Android. If I didn't already have the NC, I'd jump on this.

Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735869)

Do yourself a favor and remove the messaging app, camera, voice search and other stuff the NC can't use.

It will make the device way more stable and fast. This frees up a significant amount of its ram.

Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (1)

samoanbiscuit (1273176) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736037)

I was told in those heady days when I first flash CM7 onto my Nook that doing that would eff shit up. Would you be able to give me links on how I could go about that? Also, does removing these things impact app compatibility from the Play Store?

Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (3, Interesting)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736101)

It will not, CM has a list of what is safe to remove.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones [cyanogenmod.com]
I just used titanium backup, but you could use any app that allows you to delete apks from system.

It will break compatibility only with apps that need cameras and microphones, which the NC lacks anyway.

Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (1)

samoanbiscuit (1273176) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736141)

Thanks! Excellent link.

Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736211)

No problem. Once you do this it is like a new device. I would also suggest once completed you turn off compcache. The device will fly compared to how it is for you now.

Do yourself a favor and make backups as you go. That way if you break something you can flash the last good backup.

Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736123)

Also make sure you flash the latest CM7.2, big improvements over CM7 in the functionality department.

If you are not using corporate email (exchange) I would remove that as well. Since we really only use our NC for tablet stuff I have removed that and google talk and a bunch more.

Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (1)

Eponymous Coward (6097) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735877)

That's why I got one as well. I also wanted a tablet that had a chance of being updated. It's the same reason I bought a Nexus S phone a couple of years ago. It's still being updated. My contract is up at the end of this year, so I will get whatever the new Google reference phone is.

Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736099)

It's not just the Kindle Fire. There are other sub-$300 7" Android tablets. You simply didn't need to wait for Google to provide this sort of thing.

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (5, Insightful)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735569)

I bought it for a few reasons. First of all, I have a Xoom so I already like Android tablets. I also have an iPad but that's beside the point. The Nexus 7 is very inexpensive, almost down to impulse buy for a first worlder with a job, I was led to believe and can now confirm it has an extremely responsive OS and UI, much better than the Kindle Fire, it has most of the add on hardware I was looking for like bluetooth, front facing camera, and GPS, and it is a Nexus directly supported by Google so I'm not worried about updates for the forseeable lifespan of the product. Almost forgot, the 7" size makes it a true mobile device whereas my Xoom and iPad are like baby laptops without the keyboard so not truly mobile in the sense of stick it in your pocket and go that the Nexus 7 is. After receiving and using this thing unless you just have a vested interest in not liking Android, you owe it to yourself to at least go into the store and take a good look at it.

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (1)

dc29A (636871) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736207)

I was led to believe and can now confirm it has an extremely responsive OS and UI

Jelly Bean update gave a fresh new life to my aging Nexus S. It's a fantastic update. UI is very smooth and responsive.

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (1)

MMC Monster (602931) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736151)

I'm going to buy the 16GB version.

As for why I haven't bought one yet, I'm just waiting until XBMC is available for it.

A tablet that allows me to add a folder via sshfs and run XBMC... Hell's bells, I just bought several nettop computers to do this around my house and for my dad, my brother, and a friend of mine.

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735525)

To make the 16 GB jump on the iPad how much does it cost? Now divide that number by two. 8 GB for 50 dollars is pretty standard.

Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735619)

Standard for flash embedded in tablets where the purchase is on a 'now or never' basis; but for flash-based storage devices(SD/uSD/thumbdrive) the number should be about $10. Maybe $15-$20 if you buy the fastest, name-branded-est, one you can find.

Unless the stuff in tablets is notably superior to the stuff going into SD cards, or the tablet in question is so tightly packed that the larger size requires going with higher density flash chips that are at the unpleasant edge of the price/capacity curve, it's pretty much a 'because we can' thing...

8gb? (2)

alphatel (1450715) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735407)

With flash memory so cheap, why would anyone release a tablet with less than 32GB? Our CAD stations have more RAM.

Re:8gb? (4, Interesting)

macemoneta (154740) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735437)

With flash memory so cheap, why would anyone release a tablet with less than 32GB? Our CAD stations have more RAM.

Because many people don't store information locally anymore. My tablet has 16GB, and I have a 16GB microSD. I used to keep a lot of local content, but these days I just have an sshfs mount to my home server for all my content. The only thing my local storage is for is installed applications, and a handful off items for when I'm offline. People are keeping information in 'the cloud' whether it's a personal implementation or a public service offering.

Hundreds of dollars a year for mobile broadband (5, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735477)

My tablet has 16GB, and I have a 16GB microSD.

The Nexus 7, on the other hand, has no microSD slot.

The only thing my local storage is for is installed applications, and a handful off items for when I'm offline.

Perhaps people buying the bigger capacities are offline more than you are. They don't want to spend hundreds of dollars a year on a mobile broadband plan for a tablet when they're already paying hundreds for Internet at home. And even if they do pay up, once someone streams a couple movies over cellular, that's all the Internet access the subscriber gets for the month.

Re:Hundreds of dollars a year for mobile broadband (1)

macemoneta (154740) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735533)

Perhaps people buying the bigger capacities are offline more than you are. They don't want to spend hundreds of dollars a year on a mobile broadband plan for a tablet when they're already paying hundreds for Internet at home. And even if they do pay up, once someone streams a couple movies over cellular, that's all the Internet access the subscriber gets for the month.

I use WiFi only; it's ubuiquitous where I am, and there's no additional charge for it. I'll be switching to Republic Wireless as soon as they start offering again for the same reason. Certainly if you are in a location where cellular is your only choice, the decision will be different.

$25 per day in some places (2)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735567)

I use WiFi only; it's ubuiquitous where I am, and there's no additional charge for it. [...] Certainly if you are in a location where cellular is your only choice, the decision will be different.

To clarify my situation: The public transit system in Fort Wayne, Indiana, has no Wi-Fi; nor do a lot of stores. A convention center in Toledo, Ohio, has Wi-Fi but charges $25 per day to route packets out of the building.

Re:Hundreds of dollars a year for mobile broadband (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735599)

Must be cool never really going anywhere adventurous.

Re:8gb? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736047)

"I used to keep a lot of local content, but these days I just have an sshfs mount to my home server for all my content."

Well I hope you have a train server, a plane server and a foreign city server when you travel with it.

Re:8gb? (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736135)

The Cloud is over-hyped nonsense that's not nearly reliable enough or ubiquitous enough at this time to make up for lack of local storage. You might not use squat. That's not the same thing as using the Cloud instead.

A memory slot can be safely ignored by the more pedestrian user while still allowing a power user to load up on storage.

Re:8gb? (3, Insightful)

kh31d4r (2591021) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735443)

if you have so much local storage, why would you need to use their cloud-services?

Re:8gb? (3, Informative)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735597)

I have a Xoom with 32GB internal and an 8GB sdcard. I almost never bother putting movies or much music on it as it's just so convenient to stream. I only really want to watch a movie once especially if it isn't good enough to bother watching it on the TV in the living room so anything that hits my Xoom is in the watch it once and dispose of category anyway. Since I have flash, there are a plethora of places to get my fix on the internet and I have unlimited 4G on Verizon thanks to a grandfathered plan so I'm golden.

Re:8gb? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735445)

It could be for marketing -- people and journalists go around quoting the $200 price even though most people buy the more expensive one -- it's just $50 more ... for twice the storage!).

Re:8gb? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735469)

With flash memory so cheap, why would anyone release a tablet with less than 32GB? Our CAD stations have more RAM.

I can tell u don't know what your talking about bc the 32 you are referring to is talking about Storage space, NOT ram. It probably only has 1GB of ram on the tablet, and also putting a tablet up for comparison against a CAD workstation is like putting a Hyundai accent against a Lamborgini Diablo. You sir don't need to act smart on a technology thread... : )

Re:8gb? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735517)

He's saying his workstation has more RAM than this tablet has for storage. My laptop has 16GB of RAM so I also have more (or equal in the case of the 16GB tablet) RAM than the Nexus 7 has for flash storage.

Re:8gb? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735563)

My Lord, you are dumb.

Re:8gb? (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735661)

With flash memory so cheap, why would anyone release a tablet with less than 32GB? Our CAD stations have more RAM.

Probably because everybody wants an impulse-purchase SKU for their 'ecosystem' adoption and marketing buzz purposes, and the price of just not populating the pads, or using a smaller rather than a larger eMMC or similar chip on an otherwise identical board are quite low.

I do find it a bit curious that Google didn't offer a 32GB model(since the pricing of internal flash seems marked up compared to the swappable stuff, you'd think that they'd be fine with the idea of selling one... Perhaps the OEM building the 8 and 16 GB sizes for Google gets to do the higher-margin 32, under their own brand, as a part of the deal?) but offering relatively small starting sizes isn't a big surprise, doubly so for a company with a vested interest in always-online/everything-online users.

Re:8gb? (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735929)

i have a 16GB iphone with 4GB free space most time. some of us are not digital hoarders. i don't need 10 movies on my phone at any one time. i don't need 6 months worth of music either

i also have a 64GB ipad 2 and most of the space is filled with crap i rarely use. only bought it because it was the only wifi version available on release day

i used to have a 32GB iphone and most of the media on it i rarely used. 16GB is more than enough.

Re:8gb? (1)

Nursie (632944) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736107)

For you perhaps.

I like to put my music collection on things. It's currently around the 50GB mark. This is why I like things with micro SD slots because a 64GB card is only ~70 bucks these days. 50 bucks for 8 is ludicrous.

Re:8gb? (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736173)

> i have a 16GB iphone with 4GB free space most time. some of us are not digital hoarders

That's just so funny because the iPod 2 had 20G of storage. That's a decent enough amount of storage for a respectable music collection.

It's funny because now the cult likes to shout down more "modern" devices with less storage than a 10 year old Apple product.

You will heckle the idea of having 10 movies on your phone and then turn around and elevate the idea of doing the same thing but depending on the network to do it.

Also in retail stores (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735447)

The Nexus 7 was reported selling out in all major retail locations except Google's Play Store last Friday. Now it looks like online is dry, too. The big question is, how many did they have to start with? Is this a false crisis to create buzz, or did they really underestimate demand and have been swamped.

The important part is, of course, I already received mine.

Re:Also in retail stores (1)

The Barking Dog (599515) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735553)

I ordered the 8GB model, expecting to have to wait the 1 to 2 weeks quoted for it to ship. My order shipped the next day. It's sitting in a closet, still in the shipping box, because it's for my son's 10th birthday, which is a month away.

Re:Also in retail stores (2)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735691)

The important part is, of course, I already received mine.

The clue to your answer is in that statement.

Not a reason for me (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735455)

8GB or 16GB, this tablet is non-expandable. And in today's world, 16GB isn't really that much of an upgrade over 8GB. It certainly wouldn't allow me to do everything I would like to do (for example keep a copy of my entire music collection on it). For that I would need at least 64GB. Therefore, my conclusion is that the 16GB model isn't really worth the extra $50 at all.

Re:Not a reason for me (1)

queazocotal (915608) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735701)

Same here.
A) My phone has 32G, and I'm pairing with it anyway for 3G.
B) I can put a 32G SD card in a keychain reader, with a tiny adaptor.

Re:Not a reason for me (1)

cyber-vandal (148830) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735755)

It does have USB OTG [wikipedia.org] however so is upgradeable, albeit less conveniently.

Re:Not a reason for me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735779)

Honestly, who keeps their entire music collection locally? As I look at it this devices requires a Wifi connection to be useful, and Google Music has worked fantastic for me. In just a few seconds I can be playing any song out of my collection, and I don't even waste much space (save for some cached songs/albums). If you don't want to stream music and really want to keep your entire collection, there are other ways to interface with external storage (that is still portable).

Although yes, an SD card slot would be nice.

Re:Not a reason for me (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736189)

> Honestly, who keeps their entire music collection locally?

Perhaps someone who got used to the idea with the Apple products being sold in 2002.

Wireless networks are slow, unreliable, and insecure. They can also flake out entirely. If you wander off the beaten path, then you're just out of luck.

It's 2012. Why not have it local? Storage is small and cheap.

Local storage doesn't suffer from wandering into the local canyon.

The Cloud offsets much of the local storage need. (3, Insightful)

spacepimp (664856) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735461)

I think the challenge for this device was to bring the price down to $200. Which means reduced storage. It is easy enough now to use cloud drives/music to avoid the necessity of of having the bulk of your library local. This tablet can compete with the Kindle Fire as a result, and it will greatly increase the footprint of Android in the tablet space. When the leading product is literally three times the price or the the aging model is double the price for the same storage, it begins to look pretty good. If you need to have your entire catalog of files locally, then this may not be the device you want/need.

Re:The Cloud offsets much of the local storage nee (3, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735547)

It is easy enough now to use cloud drives/music to avoid the necessity of of having the bulk of your library local.

Not while you're out of range of a Wi-Fi AP that you're permitted to use. That happens more often for some people than for others. In fact, for some people, the only place they're sure to have Internet access on a tablet is at home.

Re:The Cloud offsets much of the local storage nee (2)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735623)

If that is a real problem then get the 16GB version and get happy. How long are you planning to be away from wifi with just your tablet that 16GB isn't enough? Movies fit for such a small screen can be encoded to a gigabyte or less so assuming you have 1GB for the OS, 4GB for some apps, 3GB worth of music, you still have room for at least 8 movies. Of course there is already a method floating around for hooking a flash drive to your Nexus 7 so the point is moot for some people already. There are also little hard drives that have their own wi-fi access point built in so you can stop somewhere in th mountains you are obviously hiking in while the latest blockbusters on your tablet and re-up.

Re:The Cloud offsets much of the local storage nee (1)

spacepimp (664856) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735679)

Then get the 16 GB version and cache the files you think you are going to need locally, or spend a few dollars and get a hotspot. I enabled the hotspot feature on my phone and use it with this device on the train. It is cheaper than having an entirely separate bill from my carrier, and actually saves battery life on the phone (my VZW GNex is awful in the battery life category)
If you absolutely need all your music and movies, then buy a bigger device at a higher cost. If they made this a 250 and 300 dollar device it would defeat the goal. With 16 GB you can have a lot of music and movies on the device. There are many manufacturers making more expensive models with more storage and MicroSD cards slots for people who need that scenario. For the price this is a good deal, and Google is selling them at cost.

Re:The Cloud offsets much of the local storage nee (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735903)

So use a USB stick with it. Those are available up to at least 256GB.

Re:The Cloud offsets much of the local storage nee (1)

Nyder (754090) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735657)

I think the challenge for this device was to bring the price down to $200. Which means reduced storage. It is easy enough now to use cloud drives/music to avoid the necessity of of having the bulk of your library local. This tablet can compete with the Kindle Fire as a result, and it will greatly increase the footprint of Android in the tablet space. When the leading product is literally three times the price or the the aging model is double the price for the same storage, it begins to look pretty good. If you need to have your entire catalog of files locally, then this may not be the device you want/need.

As cheap as they could of added an SD slot, i'm not understanding why they wouldn't.

Unless of course, they think this will keep peeps from rooting the machine...

Re:The Cloud offsets much of the local storage nee (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735727)

Why would they think that?

Fastboot is supported on this device, so no need to root it. Just drop a su apk in system and away you go.

Google dislikes SD cards because they are slow, then people move their apps and data on to them and complain the tablet is slow.

Re:The Cloud offsets much of the local storage nee (1)

spacepimp (664856) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735949)

Also, the average consumer isn't going to understand that they have to compensate their storage by something they need to buy in a store. If the lack of SD card is an issue, then don't buy what many consider a surprisingly affordable device. I am certain they will start appearing in the not too distant future.

people... (1)

lfourrier (209630) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735463)

from http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/BusinessBuzz/166606, and many others
"The cost to Google for the premium model’s additional 8 GB of memory is a mere $7.50, which means Google makes an additional profit of $42.50 every time it sells one of the 16 GB devices, IHS said."

So, if you can sync without google play, and are happy with 8 Go of media and programs between connection to your home, it makes no sense to buy the 16 Go version.

And if you want a lot of memory, it makes no sense to buy the Nexus 7, which does not accept micro SD cards.

Re:people... (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735741)

I got the 16GB version and this is by far the best 250 dollar technology purchase I have ever made. I am extremely satisfied. If Google made $42.50 off of me then more power to them and the last thing I'm going to do is start wringing my hands when such a great piece of gadgetry can be purchased so cheaply. Have you looked at the price of some of the other premium tablets on the market lately?

RMAs screwed (4, Interesting)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735475)

I was on the pre-order list and my 16GB would not charge. They still haven't sent a replacement. I guess I am screwed.

I guess the upside is that they may fix the screen issue... but since Asus has managed to show a lack of competence with some of these issues I am not holding my breath.

Re:RMAs screwed (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735637)

Replacement parts could easily be chalked up to shortages of an extremely popular product. My brother has a Transformer Prime that just stopped working one day out of the blue. He got an RMA number and printed out the little form they gave him and just dropped the package off at the nearest FedEx. Didn't have to pay shipping or anything. Within a week or so, his TF was back in his hands as good as new with all data intact.

Re:RMAs screwed (1)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736227)

I was able to prove it wasn't a charger or cable problem (they charge my phone just fine). It's a USB socket or internal USB problem.

So they need to send a new tablet, not a replacement part. I charger problem I probably would of been too lazy to report.

Re:RMAs screwed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735817)

Not sure if true, but that sucks for you.

My 16GB is absolutely perfect, haven't found a single problem with it.

Re:RMAs screwed (0)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736041)

Asus in generally is fucked up right now. Completely and utterly incompetent.

I bought a laptop from them back in late April. Finally got it in early June, after manufacturing delays, processing delays, processing errors and finally the slowest and worst shipping option they could find.

It broke three hours later. Totally fried. Wouldn't even get to the POST screen.

I finally got it back from RMA two weeks ago - over a month after sending it back. And, after they insisted I send it back in the original packaging and include the charger, they shipped it back in a plain cardboard box and bubble wrap, and had somehow lost part of the power cord (the wall->brick cord, which fortunately is a standard PC power cord).

If that's the kind of service they give to a customer spending $1500 (and who, by the end, was threatening a lawsuit), I'd hate to how they'd treat a cheap tablet customer. I'll never find out, myself - after *that* experience, I went from an Asus fanboy to an Asus nemesis, and will never be buying anything from them again.

"Google's probable answer to Amazon's Kindle" (1)

hubert.lepicki (1119397) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735479)

Great trolling, man.

Does it have a video out option? (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735505)

Either via HDMI out or VGA out? Does bluetooth have enough bandwidth to support video out? Are there bluetooth monitors out there? Bluetooth key board/mouse would be a great accessory for a tablet.

Re:Does it have a video out option? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735621)

No it doesn't have any video output, and no Bluetooth does not. You can do video over wifi though.

Re:Does it have a video out option? (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735729)

Reports are 'no' on HDMI, VGA, or MHL. Since people already have them supporting USB slave devices in the wild, I assume that somebody will get a displaylink USB-video dongle hanging off one sooner or later.

Wifi is on the low end of possible for video purposes(for some reason, Android is far more dysfunctional than iOS or Intel's PC-based video-over-wifi-to-compatible-box; but that's a software thing, not some fundamental limit of the given wifi chipset) and Bluetooth would be painfully useless(you could run an RDP/ICA/X11/VNC session over a bluetooth link, it'd be as fast or faster than the WAN links that all those are capable of; but that demands a full client device on the other end, not just a monitor, and would break down pretty badly for any video/3d type stuff).

Re:Does it have a video out option? (1)

spacepimp (664856) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735743)

It has neither and Bluetooth does not have the bandwidth/throughput for video.

Re:Does it have a video out option? (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735983)

With this app [google.com] and an HTC MedialinkHD, you can stream movies and music though you can't actually mirror the full display.

Not sold out, Just need to satisfy retailers first (1)

Aditya88 (1941500) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735515)

I bet there will be no demand for 16 gig nexus 7 if 8gb version is also supplied for retailers. Google only halted it from its site because it has to fulfill retailers demand. there is only 20 bucks diff between 230$(include shipping+ taxes) 8gb google store nexus 7 and 249$ 16gb retailer version(lot of stores have no tax no shipping). so when you compare, extra 20$ for 16gb is worth it. I bought mine for 234$ from jr.com. only 6 more buck than 8gb version. only money come here no specs no space nothing....

Great Device (3, Insightful)

Foxman98 (37487) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735529)

For anyone on the fence about buying one, do not hesitate, it's a fantastic device!

Re:Great Device (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736233)

Disagree (I have a Nexus 7). Save your money for an iPad. Android is so far behind iOS it's not funny.

However, if you already like Android (can't understand why, but some people do), then this is great device for you.

So.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735539)

How many is "sold out"?

X sold out in Y days (4, Insightful)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735571)

When a new consumer product/book/whatever hits the market, it's common to limit quantities of the first shipment so you can tell the world you "sold out" a few days later. The reason you do this is threefold:

1) Reminds consumers that product X is now available for sale
2) Get consumers to think that if they're interested, they need to buy now (e.g., rather than comparison shop)
3) Get consumers to think that the list price IS the price the product is selling for (e.g., don't look for discounts)

Re:X sold out in Y days (1)

Celarent Darii (1561999) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735663)

The only problem with this is that if you don't have the units in stock you aren't selling them, and if you aren't selling them you aren't making money.

Or maybe (2, Insightful)

rodrigoandrade (713371) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735573)

Google intentionally manufactured (not really Google, but still...) few units just so they can say "hey, our Nexus 7 is really hot shit and sold out!!"

Re:Or maybe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40735683)

There's also the possibility of certain people buying larger quantities to create scarcity and sell them at a higher price on eBay.

Of course... (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735591)

Of course people want the 16 GB one over the 8 GB one, especially since there's no Micro SD card slot.

If they had a Micro-SD card slot, I'd be buying one, without one, I don't really see the point of buying a tablet in 2012 with such a pathetic amount of storage space. Really, why $50 for 16 GB? I can go out and buy a 32 Micro-SD card for $30 or less. I can buy a 64 GB SD card for under $50.

Re:Of course... (1)

Blitz22 (1122015) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735667)

It's not as convenient as an actual SD slot, and you have to root, but it will give more storage... Google Play Store [google.com]

Re:Of course... (1)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735687)

I keep seeing this time after time, but this complaint over the size of memory and lack of MicroSD ignores context.

I purchased a Nexus 7 as cheap 2nd tablet and one I could use for day-to-day work. I don't care about this issue.

Buy the hardware appropriate to the task. People making this broad complaint are wanting one size fits all, and that just doesn't happen.

Re:Of course... (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735723)

Sure, it might work for some people but it is such a glaring omission. Even my dumb-phones I had from 2005/6 had a Micro (or perhaps it was mini) SD card slot.

Re:Of course... (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736251)

> People making this broad complaint are wanting one size fits all, and that just doesn't happen.

Sure it does. The counter-examples here are legion starting with the Galaxy Tab. Your "we must cripple it to make it useful" argument simply doesn't hold water here.

It's amazing how many people are pushing the "no one will ever need more than 640K" mentality here.

We're talking about a trivial change, transparent to those that are not interested but very useful to those that might care.

In the UK, Tesco got the price diff down to 10 GBP (1)

rklrkl (554527) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735601)

In the UK, Google are selling the 8GB model for 169 GBP (inc. postage and tax), whereas Tesco in the UK did the 16GB model briefly (like for half a day until they realised that the money off voucher code was wrongly applied!) for 179 GBP inc tax. You had to use a 20 GBP discount voucher that was posted on the Net fairly rapidly and also collect it from your local store (Tesco is massive w.r.t. the number of UK stores, so that's no big deal). It's why I have a Nexus 7 16GB on my desk for only 10 GBP (about $15.50) more than the 8GB model - a no-brainer purchase to get the 16GB model in this case.

Yes, it's already unlocked, rooted, has Flash (side-loaded), Camera Launcher for Nexus 7, Firefox beta + Phony = iPlayer (side-loading the iPlayer app doesn't work) and it'll be the Modaco ROM next in a few days' time probably.

Now we get to see (0)

AdrianKemp (1988748) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735611)

When the most popular version of the iPad sell out, it's usually minutes before the rest sell out as well (because people are easily pushed into paying more or in many cases accepting less storage). The true popularity test for the Nexus will be just that.

However, due to Google's piss poor marketing the situation is a little different. Apple nearly always manages to have it's most popular model be the lowest end - so that you never have to settle, only pay more.

I'm watching this with quite a bit of interest. Google has a product here (a physical product) that people actually want, and historically they manage to fuck that up every time.

Re:Now we get to see (4, Informative)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735681)

Not really. Google's products have always been popular in the right circles. The thing is, Google's previous physical products have been phones. The vast, vast, vast, majority of Americans buy their phones subsidized on contract, if the Google Nexus Phone X isn't there in the Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile or Sprint store, most people aren't going to buy it. Even among early adopters who look online they see $600 for a phone and can't justify paying that + contract price (and on contract is really the only way to keep a decent data plan today). They don't see a $600 phone when they buy the phone that costs them $50 on contract, they see a $50 phone. When you show them Google's phone, they see a very expensive piece of technology and understandably aren't buying it like crazy.

Tablets are different. Your average American isn't comparing the Google price to a substadized price, instead they are seeing you can buy a $200 tablet from Google, a $200 tablet from Amazon, a $400 high end Android tablet or a $500 low-end tablet from Apple.

"answer to Amazon's Kindle" (1)

hobarrera (2008506) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735677)

How is a 7" tablet an answer to an eReader? Is it also an answer to desktop PCs?

Re:"answer to Amazon's Kindle" (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735955)

Because they mean the kindle fire.

Also a 7" tablet makes a great ereader. I use a Nook Color running CM7 for it all the time.

Re:"answer to Amazon's Kindle" (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736021)

to Kindle Fire.

(for those living under a rock, kindle fire is a tablet about the same size).

Manufacturing was most likely pended.. (0)

the computer guy nex (916959) | more than 2 years ago | (#40735837)

..due to quality issues.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407422,00.asp [pcmag.com]

"Specifically, there's not just one bad batch of Nexus 7 tablets out there - there may multiple bad batches with different problems. Few reviewers got the bad units, of course, because one of the basic jobs of tech product PR is to make sure the gadget works before you send it out. Some of this is luck, of course; we have three tablets and no problems here."

Re:Manufacturing was most likely pended.. (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736067)

Or PCmag is trying to knock the product so that people will buy a surface when they come out.

PCmag are the biggest MS shills ever.

The geeks at Android Authroity and XDA Forums have a DIY fix, but we'd advise ordinary consumers to just return their tablets.

You are calling tightening a screw a DIY fix? Are normal consumers to dumb for that?

The rest of these are one off problems. You build a device and sell it for $200 or $500 some units will be defective. They are just capitalizing on the popularity of the product to get page hits.

Re:Manufacturing was most likely pended.. (1)

rodrigoandrade (713371) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736169)

Yes, PC Mag articles seems to be written by Microsoft's PR staff, but at least the one in question cites all sources for their complaints.

It's not like they write "Our review unit sucks; it has this isue, this issue and that other issue." Quite the contrary actually. Their 3 units are flawless.

Re:Manufacturing was most likely pended.. (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736193)

Actually I found no link for the dead pixel issue. The text is blue, but the link does not work.

I did not test the other links yet.

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