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Staples Executive Outs Six New Kindle Fire Tablets

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the around-the-corner dept.

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zacharye writes "Staples (SPLS) president Demos Parneros has gone on record in stating that Amazon (AMZN) has plans to introduce as many as six new Kindle Fire tablets. A new report on Monday says that Amazon has plans to add up to five or six new tablet SKUs to its lineup. According to the claim, Parneros confirmed that the Kindle Fire tablets will vary in size, and will include at least one 10-inch tablet model."

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Oh-Oh! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736139)

Spaghetti-o!

Snubbed (5, Insightful)

BigBunion (2578693) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736181)

Something tells me that Staples was angling to carry the new devices in their stores but then got snubbed by Amazon. Ouch.

Re:Snubbed (1)

locopuyo (1433631) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736243)

Yeah what makes him so special that he would even get this information?

Re:Snubbed (3, Interesting)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736833)

Notice he said "SKUs". The SKU number is always added to computers a few months before the actual item arrives at the store, so they have time to (1) set a price and (2) order it for their inventory.

Just to pick a random example: My store used to start ordering summer bikinis in October/November, and they arrived in December. Which is why there's always a post-christmas clearance; to make room in the stockroom for all these bikinis and other summer goods.

Re:Snubbed (2)

reub2000 (705806) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736937)

Okay that explains why I'm out of luck if I lose that hat that's kept me warm all winter in February.

Re:Snubbed (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736349)

or that amazon told them to leak the story so that people won't buy the nexus tablets

at the same price i'll buy the kindle over the nexus any day. just for the amazon prime benefits

Re:Snubbed (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736389)

The fact that I don't get those prime benefits on other tablets makes me want to cancel prime not buy a kindle.

If the kindle shipped with stock android and actually got updated I might consider it.

Re:Snubbed (0)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736467)

so you're going to give up "free" books and streaming media just for this google experience nonsense?

can the kindle get gmail? - Yes
can it do google reader? - yes. use Feedly which is a better interface than the google idiotic interface for reader. or use flipboard which is awesome by itself
can it do music? - Yes

as for the cartoony live wall paper and the customization most people don't care.

Re:Snubbed (4, Interesting)

P-niiice (1703362) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736539)

Your limited on what you can do with the tablet. This is fine if you're really, really into Amazon and don't get movies from varied sources, for example. As an Android tablet, it's severely crippled.

Re:Snubbed (1)

_KiTA_ (241027) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736665)

Your limited on what you can do with the tablet. This is fine if you're really, really into Amazon and don't get movies from varied sources, for example. As an Android tablet, it's severely crippled.

Point of order: The current Fire is "severely crippled." We have no idea if the Fire 2 ("Blaze" or "Ember" or whatnot) will be as crippled.

Re:Snubbed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736731)

You're only limited if you choose not to root it :)

Re:Snubbed (1)

jeti (105266) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737073)

True. And it's almost useless outside the US.

Unless you choose to root the device and install a third party ROM. The Jelly Bean (Android 4.1.1) releases are shaping up nicely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765288 [xda-developers.com]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766829 [xda-developers.com]

Re:Snubbed (1)

P-niiice (1703362) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737589)

I'm running CM7 on mine.

Re:Snubbed (1)

corvax (941506) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738681)

WOW wonder if they are going to lock the boot loader etc to stop this? if everyone buys a kindle (based on gingerbred 2.3) and installs the snappier vanilla jelly bean based roms. Now not only will they have a tablet that will get updated but they will be able to use google play/market and not have to buy from amazon. Im sure atleast on the lower in they take a near loss on every tablet but if you as a customer arent buying from their market they will be in the hole. :O Talk about sticking it to the man! lol

Re:Snubbed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40737411)

As an Android tablet, it's severely crippled.

As opposed to all those other Android tablets that are rootable out of the box with a check-box selection? So that the user can over-ride inappropriate defaults set in the OS?

Oh, wait..

Re:Snubbed (1)

locopuyo (1433631) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737461)

He might not have a limited for his tablet.

Re:Snubbed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40737513)

Hulu+ Kindle Fire Edition and Netflix both run on the Kindle Fire just fine. Amazon isn't blocking anybody from putting things on the Fire.

Re:Snubbed (1)

Andy Dodd (701) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738485)

The ONLY thing that is available on the Kindle Fire but not on a standard Android tablet is streaming to the tablet.

That limitation prevented me from signing up for Prime for many months after my "Kindle Fire free month" ran out. I eventually resubbed for one year for the shipping benefits and PS3 streaming... However while my Fire made a great hacktoy, I can't think of anything Amazon could offer in this generation that would make me choose any of their new products over a Nexus 7.

Re:Snubbed (1)

P-niiice (1703362) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738731)

Not true. One example is there are some serious go-to video players that I could not install from the Amazon Market - and when i installed them from other sources, they did not handle movie playback as well as my phone. After wiping and flashing CM7 and getting the Android market back, it plays everything fine. That's one example, there were others.

Re:Snubbed (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736593)

I don't get those now, because Amazon decided not to put those features into the normal apks. I will not buy their device just to not get screwed on my prime subscription.

I don't want live wallpapers I want google maps, voice, talk, skype, in general all the apps I can find in the google market.

I do want updates, not to be stuck on 2.2.

Re:Snubbed (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736659)

in 2011 for $199 it was an awesome deal

i bet they add all these features for the new one. unless they are having patent issues with MS which means no skype

Re:Snubbed (1)

corvax (941506) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738701)

Im pretty sure the fire only comes with 30 days free and then you have to pay the $78 dollars a year like everyone else

Re:Snubbed (1)

corvax (941506) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738815)

im pretty sure prime is only free for 30 days on the fire and then you pay the same seventy eight dollars every one else pays

Re:Snubbed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40753039)

"The fact that I don't get those prime benefits on other tablets makes me want to cancel prime not buy a kindle."

That comes off as snotty, not rational.

Re:Snubbed (2)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736519)

Can't you get all the Amazon apps on a normal Android device?

Where as the Kindle Fire doesn't have access to all Android apps and music/video from Google Play, Nook, etc. As far as I know, Nook is the only major e-book app that allows side-loading my own e-book collection, which I enjoy.

Re:Snubbed (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736597)

do i really want all the apps? no

when i got my ipad 2 i ended up using it mostly as an ereader until my wife stole for the baby education apps to teach my almost 2 year old

if i'm going to buy something new ereader is going to be my #1 feature and that goes to kindle. same with amazon streaming, kindle fire is the only tablet that does it now. i might get netflix again but now i have amazon

for the apps i just care about the most popular ones like flipboard and a few others. same on my iphone, i use the most popular apps the most. and since i have an iphone 4s and an ipad 2 for a second tablet i just need something CHEAP and the fact that its integrated with amazon is a big plus. google experience? who cares. i check out play sometimes and half the apps are crap and worthless and the other half are also on iOS

Re:Snubbed (3, Insightful)

Dishevel (1105119) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736771)

if i'm going to buy something new ereader is going to be my #1 feature and that goes to kindle.

If that is the #1 feature. Should you not be looking at the regular Kindle or the Nook? You know something with a incredibly readable E-Ink screen.
Or are you willing to throw your "Number One Feature" feature out the door for "Color".
If that is the case then I believe that "Color" is your number one feature.
You can thank me later.

Re:Snubbed (2)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738445)

If that is the #1 feature. Should you not be looking at the regular Kindle or the Nook? You know something with a incredibly readable E-Ink screen.

You answered pretty much what I was going to say.

I love my nook color tablet that I installed Android on...as a tablet for surfing, email...watching videos on plane trips.

But for long, sustained reading for pleasure...I have the Kindle DX. The e-ink is THE way to go IMHO, for pleasure reading.

My eyesight is getting pretty bad last years...and honestly, I'd pretty much stopped reading many books. But now that I've gotten this eink reader, and can adjust the fonts enough to make it easy to read...I've gotten back into pleasure reading in a major way.

With the backlit tablets....just is hard on the eyes for long term reading. With e-ink, I've actually in one sitting read books cover to cover much like I did as a kid....I couldn't spend that much time staring at a backlit tablet without serious eye fatigue.

Re:Snubbed (1)

danudwary (201586) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736629)

Is it official, no, but I have Google Play on my Kindle Fire, and I manage all of my ebooks from various sources with Calibre without issue. The Fire is a nice tablet once you (fairly easily) break down the walls.

Re:Snubbed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736673)

Actually, the Fire does allow side-loading of both non-Amazon apps and non-Amazon books and docs. In addition to side-loading, you also get an email address @kindle.com which allows you to email books and docs to your Fire. If you use the email route, then the docs/books also stay in the cloud. The only glitch is that the e-books show up as Docs on the KF but they still work like ebooks.

Re:Snubbed (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737405)

The main thing you can't get is the video app and with Amazon Prime supposedly you get a lot of free movies through it. I guess that's enough to swing some people.

Re:Snubbed (1)

Blue23 (197186) | more than 2 years ago | (#40740847)

As far as I know, Nook is the only major e-book app that allows side-loading my own e-book collection, which I enjoy.

I've got no problems side-loading e-books to the Kindle Fire. There is a trick to it though. It's easy as pie to side-load them, but if you stick them in your Docs directory and want them to show up as books, you need to turn your Fire off and back on once, not just hibernate it. (To turn off, hold down power for 5 or 10 seconds).

6 new Kindle tablets (3, Insightful)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736275)

1 geek news site
0 fucks given

Re:6 new Kindle tablets (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40737091)

It's Amazon's fault for not giving their tablets techy names like "Guns", "Climate", "Terrorism", "Elections", "Distracted Driving", and "Islam".

Re:6 new Kindle tablets (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737375)

Damn this is a fucking insightful new take on a worn out joke. Don't know if +1000 insightful of -1 redundant.

Re:6 new Kindle tablets (0)

Enry (630) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738923)

BitCoin

Re:6 new Kindle tablets (2)

Dog-Cow (21281) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737139)

I think that's redundant. If it's a geek site, of course there's no fucking going on.

Outs six tablets (2)

rminsk (831757) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736363)

"Outs Six New Kindle Fire Tablets". Where they gay? How about "Staples executives leak six new..."

Re:Outs six tablets (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 2 years ago | (#40739551)

Where they gay?

Uhm, maybe San Fransisco?

Re:Outs six tablets (1)

oldmac31310 (1845668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40754725)

so, incontinent, but not gay?

Someone does not know what a SKU is (5, Informative)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736373)

6 SKUs could easily be only one or two products.
The Nook 7 has two SKUs, we don't call them difference devices.

Re:Someone does not know what a SKU is (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736563)

Luckily they are only a journalist for a major financial news publication, so competence isn't really too important...

Re:Someone does not know what a SKU is (2)

Sir_Sri (199544) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738027)

Right. A couple of sizes, a couple of capacities, a couple of colours or a 'deluxe' edition with per-bundled goodies or a cross promotion with a pre -installed set of software and you can easily hit half a dozen SKU's.

If I were to guess, it's two sizes, then with/without 3g and then a version with extra memory and 3g or something similar.

Re:Someone does not know what a SKU is (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738575)

My guess would be two sizes, three colours. Too much choice tends to be counterproductive. A range of colours isn't so much of a problem since most people know which they prefer and there aren't any disadvantages.

Re:Someone does not know what a SKU is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40738565)

That's because they can't subtract.

Outside US (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736411)

How many Canadians does it take to buy a Kindle Fire at www.staples.ca ?

None: it's not for sale.

Maybe there should be a us.slashdot.org to discuss local news?

Re:Outside US (2)

Dishevel (1105119) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736805)

Or maybe it has been discussed many times and I think at one time was even in the FAQ. /. is US centric. So get used to it or go somewhere that is not US centric.

Re:Outside US (2)

RenderSeven (938535) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736921)

Maybe there should be a us.slashdot.org to discuss local news?

Maybe there should be a oversensitivecanadians.slashdot.org instead?

Re:Outside US (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40737479)

Slashdot is a site founded by people in the US and owned by a US company. Fuck off.

Re:Outside US (1)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738537)

Maybe there should be a us.slashdot.org to discuss local news?

Err....Slashdot IS a US site....we just welcome our foreign friends to jump in and have fun too, but Slashdot is a US centric site, and the views put forth ARE US views. Local Slashdot news is US news....

Snuff the Fire, what about eInk? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736571)

All these posts about the July release have been Kindle Fire this and Kindle Fire that, but is everyone forgetting about the REAL Kindle? You know, the one that actually has a good eInk screen? There's bound to be at least one model with a frontlit screen (like the Nook), but what I really want is a non-touchscreen one. I doubt it will happen because they think people only want the button version because it's the cheapest, but the perfect model to me would be one in the same form factor as the current K4 with buttons, WITH 3G (so annoying to not have it after being used to the Kindle 2 and Kindle 3), and with the frontlight

Re:Snuff the Fire, what about eInk? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736999)

Why can't they make a Kindle Keyboard with 768x1024 resolution? So PDFs are actually readable and stuff.

Re:Snuff the Fire, what about eInk? (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#40739063)

If you want readable PDFs, that's what Kindle DX is for.

Re:Snuff the Fire, what about eInk? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40741617)

Only if you want a slower than shit black and white display.

Re:Snuff the Fire, what about eInk? (0)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#40741657)

GP has asked for a Kindle Keyboard with a higher resolution, which implies that he does in fact want "a slower than shit black and white display".

Re:Snuff the Fire, what about eInk? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40742111)

i,c, that now.

I don't find any of the e-ink displays suitable for PDF. Despite the alleged intent.

tablet which allows resizing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736613)

i would like to see a tablet which you may adjust for screen size by manipulating the plastic and clicking it into various grooves/sizes and the software detecting this change and correcting the resolution to fit for size. some days you may want/need a larger tablet and sometimes you may want a smaller screen, this could help for battery life, too, the smaller the resolution. and this manual resizing of the tablet could provide the user with a smaller, more compact tablet when he/she needs it for storage and/or ease of travel.

Hopefully, these will displace iPads (0, Troll)

walterbyrd (182728) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736717)

The litigious scam company, known as "Apple" certainly deserves to lose market share.

Samsung Galaxy S III: 10 Million Sold
http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/240004166

Google’s $250 16GB Nexus 7 tablet disappeared from Google’s online Play store over the weekend due to overwhelming demand
http://www.pcworld.com/article/259660/googles_16gb_nexus_7_disappears_from_play_store.html

Why I abandoned the iPhone
http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/why-i-abandoned-the-iphone-20120718-228xy.html

Re:Hopefully, these will displace iPads (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40736929)

The only thing more annoying then a fanboy is a hater. You happen to be both. Good work.

The Fire is still a failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40737001)

because Amazon in its ultimate wisdom still won't sell it in Europe.

Shades of Zune here maybe?

Until they do then it is a mega fail especiallu as amazon.com won't ship one to me unless I provide a US Address.

Re:Hopefully, these will displace iPads (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737651)

Considering Google is using Motorola as a bludgeon to sue Apple, you come off as quite the hypocrite recommending that others buy from companies that engage in practices you claim to hate.

The sooner you realize that ALL companies play these patent games and we should just ignore them, the better off you will be... otherwise you are eliminating possibly useful devices from your life.

Google is just defending itself (1)

walterbyrd (182728) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738361)

> Considering Google is using Motorola as a bludgeon to sue Apple

Those lawsuits were filed after a *flood* of Apple lawsuits against anybody who dared sell an Android product. Sadly, counter-suing is the only defense companies, like Google, have against litigous preditors like Apple.

Re:Hopefully, these will displace iPads (0)

Tough Love (215404) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737901)

The litigious scam company, known as "Apple" certainly deserves to lose market share.

Apple was caught with its proverbial pants down in the 7 inch tablet space. Epic stumble. Now Google has set the bar so high on specs that Apple's belated 7 inch offering is going to lack magic, no two ways about it. What are the only weaknesses of the Nexus 7? No back facing camera; no microSD. That's about it. Apple probably had their design completely frozen when the Nexus 7 came out and blindsided them. No doubt they are now frantically scurrying around buffing it up, and that most probably means the roll out date will slip. And its already way late. When it finally does arrive it will be up against two very strong incumbents.

You can pretty much count on Apple's 7 inch having with a back facing camera, which means Google's refresh will have it too. Amazon will probably introduce with a back facing camera, one of the few ways available to differentiate against Nexus 7, and they might well pull that off before Apple gets out the door, yet another buzzkill for Apple. Oh my. Well, at least Apple will have 16/32 GB flash, and they might up the ante to 32/64 GB. But it's a practical certainty that Amazon will offer 32 GB in its new line up, and possibly external flash. Which would present another big problem for Apple because it's "full size" product doesn't have it.

See, the real issue is, Apple is now forced to introduce a 7 inch tablet that beats the specs of its current 9 inch offering. Now... why would anybody want to buy the big tablet with lower specs? Effective Osborne effect. Ouch.

Non-vendor-locked tablets are better deals (5, Insightful)

walterbyrd (182728) | more than 2 years ago | (#40736765)

When the Kindle Fire first came out, it was a decent tablet, for the price - even if it was crippled, and you were vendor-locked by Amazon.

Today, with great tablets, like the Nexus 7, so inexpense, why bother with proprietary, crippled, vendor-locked devices?

Re:Non-vendor-locked tablets are better deals (1)

StripedCow (776465) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737299)

Because soon, all available content will be locked to these vendor-locked devices.

Re:Non-vendor-locked tablets are better deals (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40738095)

all available content

I do not think that means what you think it means.

Re:Non-vendor-locked tablets are better deals (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 2 years ago | (#40740301)

Today, with great tablets, like the Nexus 7, so inexpense, why bother with proprietary, crippled, vendor-locked devices?

For a many of the people who shop Amazon.com, the Kindle fits comfortably into place --- it meets their needs ---- and they don't give a damn about the geek.

So, only geeks care about comparison shopping? (1)

sgtrock (191182) | more than 2 years ago | (#40742177)

Heck, I learned that tactic from my grandmother, who probably learned it from her grandmother, who probably learned it from hers. Is it more accurate to say that only geeks remember those hard earned lesssons about shopping that have been passed down? Seriously??

A vendor supplied hardware device that is tied to a single storefront is silly on its face. The fact that there are enough gullible people out there to buy them to continue to make it a viable business model is what is truly mind-boggling.

Re:Non-vendor-locked tablets are better deals (1)

swillden (191260) | more than 2 years ago | (#40742679)

Today, with great tablets, like the Nexus 7, so inexpense, why bother with proprietary, crippled, vendor-locked devices?

For a many of the people who shop Amazon.com, the Kindle fits comfortably into place --- it meets their needs ---- and they don't give a damn about the geek.

If it meets their needs, well and good. However, a Nexus 7 would also meet the same needs, and offer a great deal more should they ever want it. They would have to take the extra step of downloading the Kindle app from the Play Store.

well... (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737003)

Well, that's just about the only thing he could do that would ever make people remotely consider Staples as their tablet dealer. I didn't even know they had them, lol.

Re:well... (1)

Tough Love (215404) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738007)

Staple's has a huge selection of Android tablets on display and one lone Windows tablet (Acer W500) that looks especially clunky sitting next to all the skinny little Android units.

"out" is the word of choice for gays "coming out" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40737503)

Who taught you idiots how to write ?

Whoever did was incompetent.

The word "discloses" would be a far better choice than the word "out".

SKUs not the same as products (4, Informative)

SpleenVenter (976034) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737529)

A separate SKU (stock-keeping unit, a fancy term for "part number") will exist for each sellable configuration of a product. Saying that there will be "five or six" SKUs could easily mean only two separate models, say a 7" and 10" with three memory configurations each.

Re:SKUs not the same as products (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40737659)

Or different colours/colors a black, white and brushed aluminium would be 3 sku's in 2 different stroage amounts would then make 6

Re:SKUs not the same as products (1)

SpleenVenter (976034) | more than 2 years ago | (#40737755)

Yep, exactly -- great example. I've spent a lot of time in and around retail systems. An apparel manufacturer I worked for for a few years would routinely issue 15,000 new SKUs *every season*. It was actually only about a hundred or so different garments, but between all the different different sizes and colors the SKU count just zooms up.

Fire Sale (1)

Ceriel Nosforit (682174) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738159)

It has taken me until now to figure out this isn't about a fire sale.

Kindle Fire? No, thanks. (1)

John Bokma (834313) | more than 2 years ago | (#40738341)

Kindle Fire outside the USA: fun while it lasts [johnbokma.com]

It's a nice device, don't get me wrong, but even if I could have warranty outside of the USA I am not interested anymore. I live in Xalapa, and there's an Apple shop "around the corner" from where I live. Beats shipping and waiting weeks if not months for repairs.

Re:Kindle Fire? No, thanks. (1)

soupforare (542403) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744889)

This isn't really unique to Amazon so it's hard to fault them for it. You can spend thousands upon thousands of USD on a brand new camera abroad and it won't be warranted outside of whatever zone you purchased it in.

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