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Sally Ride Takes Her Final Flight

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the new-life-haunting-the-iss dept.

NASA 251

fructose writes "Sally Ride, America's first woman in space died today at age 61. She succumbed to pancreatic cancer according to her office in San Diego. Here's to wishing her a safe trip on her final journey."

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So what? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743225)

Let's not get sentimental or sexist; let's focus on expanding into space!

Re:So what? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743375)

Most people do get sentimental when someone else passes away. In this case, a person who has a permanent footnote in our historical documentation. Trollers however, are pretty much mocked and forgotten within minutes. My apologies to everyone for feeding the troll.

Now she gets to roam the Universe !! (1)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743595)

Some people feel sad at the news of death

I do not

While we are living, we are _mostly_ stuck inside this gravity well - with the exception of our imagination

Only after one dies, that the spirit is freed from the bond of the body - if you believe in the existence of "spirit", that is - and in this gal's case, finally she gets to roam the Universe, without having to strap herself next to a big rocket
 

Re:Now she gets to roam the Universe !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744787)

Well said.

Awesome Gal. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743233)

Condolences to her family.
Godspeed Sally.

Americans fixation with (a) deity (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743397)

Seriously,

Are you guys so far behind over there that every little thing has to be "by his command".

I'm getting to the stage of feeling thoroughly cheesed off with slashdot. I know it's got a yank spin, but it feels like over the last few years the propoganda and the yearning for america to be number 1 is off the charts.

Yes, yes, I know where this is going my burger eating rotund friends.

Any chance you guys could sort your shit out, and stop fucking up the rest of the planet just because you're greedy?

Also be really cool if you stop with that whole "pushing our economic rules on everyone" crap too.

Thought not.

Re:Americans fixation with (a) deity (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743489)

You lost me with "Seriously."
If you are going to rant, stay on point, on topic, and within the same realm of thought.
Jebus H Visnu you must be new here.

Re:Americans fixation with (a) deity (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743525)

Ah my lickle doughnut, you wish to go a few rounds with a real man?

It is your dream since the end of wrestling classes, yes?

Re:Americans fixation with (a) deity (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743533)

He's just wasting some time waiting for the orange hair dye to set.

Re:Americans fixation with (a) deity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744461)

The orange hair dye manufacturing company is gong to have awful Halloween sales this year.

Re:Americans fixation with (a) deity (-1, Offtopic)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743585)

the US has never been more divided.

you have the jesusland guys (aka, modern republicans or teabaggers) who really want to take us down the 'we are a christian nation!' path. for the most part, they are inhabitants of flyover states, rural areas and the south.

then, you have thinking people, which, admittedly, there are less and less to be found. these people are strongly opposed to the 'faith based' bullshit.

problem is: the mouth breathers and fundies are the more vocal and so it *seems* like they are what the US is about.

I assure you, many of us find the 'US of jesusland' to be exactly the opposite of what this country was supposed to be about.

the republicans keep this crap going since they are now in bed with 'big religion' and its too late for them to back out of that. they are 'with them' now and they have a large base they can manipulate. they are not going to give that up anytime soon!

but again, realize that the 'moral majority' is neither (to use an old 80's era phrase).

Re:Americans fixation with (a) deity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743887)

Not that you can be accused of thought.

Re:Americans fixation with (a) deity (0)

radiumsoup (741987) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743641)

Wow, I'm not sure I've seen such reliance on straw men and xenophobia than with this AC post. I gotta hand it to you, you've really honed the art of focusing hatred on people you've never met before. Not sure I'd hope to meet you in a dark alleyway with a U.S. sports team on my shirt, though, if only for fear of being bigoted to death.

Re:Americans fixation with (a) deity (0)

milkmage (795746) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744187)

you referring to the godspeed comment?
I can tell you're British.. because you call us Yanks.

godspeed is an ENGLISH term.. as in England. Long before us Yanks kicked your ass - 1776 and all that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godspeed_(ship) [wikipedia.org] - Victoria company LONDON - 1607

and it's not really religious anyway

Godspeed
noun
good fortune; success (used as a wish to a person starting on a journey, a new venture, etc.).

Re:Americans fixation with (a) deity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744315)

I had no idea, Sally was a deity....I'm totally praying to the Goddess of Space Lesbians tonight. Calm down dude....it is a story about a pioneer that died, we have them all the time here. It has nothing to do with deities or American worship other than the fact that she was American.

Re:Awesome Gal. (5, Insightful)

camperslo (704715) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743781)

Condolences to her family.

And condolences to her partner of 27 years, Dr. Tam E. O'Shaughnessy

Sadly even hero status didn't bring the right to legal marriage during their time together

Safe trip? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743239)

What, is she going to die again or something?

Re:Safe trip? (1)

LordNimon (85072) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743353)

Maybe it's another way of saying he hopes she doesn't go to Hell?

Re:Safe trip? (4, Informative)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743461)

People do not want to admit that death==nonexistence so they make-up imaginary "trips" to some other place (heaven, hell, Elysian Fields, space, whatever). In reality Sally Ride's personality dissolved into nothingness at the moment her brain's neurons broke connection with one another when they were deprived of oxygen.

Re:Safe trip? (2)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743517)

as 'computer savvy people', we can all related to the analog of a computer running for a very long time. suppose its a calculation that is running for decades. its adding more info and detail to its result, converging in, getting closer to an answer, and, then ....

someone comes by, unplugs the power cord and the computer is thrown away, data and all.

is the data saved anywhere? not really! 2nd hand info could be saved but not the actual running program or its internal data.

it all gets turned off, thrown away and forgotton.

this is what life is. and its whole concept is stupid (from a conciousness POV).

some people need to make up stories to be ok with this absurd concept. they can't deal with the fact that an 80 year process just simply loses its power, all data is destroyed and that is that. the universe does not 'care'. there is no one there to care. all your work for your lifetime is ruined, destroyed, forgotton. you and I don't matter. none of us matters.

this drives people insane. or, it can. and so, our 'wise men' have created bedtime stories to keep those with simpler minds happier during their 80 year (or so) run.

I do understand the origin of the 'stories' but they are still very poor stories and they can do more harm than good.

Re:Safe trip? (4, Insightful)

thereitis (2355426) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743603)

some people need to make up stories to be ok with this absurd concept. they can't deal with the fact that an 80 year process just simply loses its power, all data is destroyed and that is that. the universe does not 'care'. there is no one there to care. all your work for your lifetime is ruined, destroyed, forgotton. you and I don't matter. none of us matters.

When a process dies, all the work it has accomplished remains. Same with a human.

I could counter your belittling of people who use these "bedtime stories" with this: those who have no belief in the possibility of a greater being are uncomfortable with the thought of something being inexplicable - ever.

Re:Safe trip? (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743739)

the works that it has 'calculated' is the emotions, knowledge, experience, insight. that is all 'dumped on the floor' when you die. shreds of 2nd hand versions of those 'results' are saved but not the first hand ones.

it all seems a waste. data held in ram (the brain) and power is pulled out, dumping the data forever into the bit bucket.

you say 'belief in a greater being' and I say that there is not one bit of evidence to support that. in fact, which greater being are you referring to? odin? no, we stopped believing in him. Ra? nope. long haired black dude that we insist was a white guy? nope, he's dust right now, also. has not been heard from in quite a long time.

where does it end? should we believe in unicorns? elves? there is exactly as much evidence to support the idea that elves live in keebler trees.

oh right, YOUR fairy stories are real. its the others that we 'know' are not true.

gotcha.

Re:Safe trip? (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744479)

Why does one need a god to believe in afterlife?

Maybe we exist in a massive computer simulation, which is programmed to simulate an afterlife for us. Maybe there are infinitely many worlds, and we live on in the other ones (i.e. quantum immortality). Maybe we're all part of a distributed hivemind that lives as long as humanity lives. Maybe the universe is on loop and we'll all re-exist in the next one. Maybe some religion got it right, and we'll end up in heaven or nirvana or get reincarnated. Maybe there is a right religion that has since been abandoned, and we'll all be surprised to end up in Elysium/Hades. Who the heck knows?

And what does it matter? None of them suggest you ought to do anything short of live life to the fullest, because, to steal from Shakespeare:

To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there’s the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause

We don't know what comes next, so it's better to stick with the devil we know -- life.

It seems to me that you're the only here who has a problem with that, going off on your woe-is-me tirades, insisting that it's all for naught. If you really believe that, why not off yourself? Perhaps because you too fear "what dreams may come"?

Re:Safe trip? (1)

ubrgeek (679399) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743755)

Best ... response ... ever. Very nicely said.

Re:Safe trip? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743681)

I would argue that its not even that bad - many people knew Sally, observed her "computational outputs" over the years, and have been inspired to do something different in their lives based on what they estimate her personality and "data" to be like, so you could argue that this will get passed on for a long time, which is in essence, her personality continuing to exist and to influence people.

Re:Safe trip? (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743775)

the running program stopped and the algorithms lost. the power fuse blew, it cannot be replaced and the data is all gone, now.

at best, you have a screen capture and maybe some past data printouts.

Re:Safe trip? (0)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744385)

I do understand the origin of the 'stories' but they are still very poor stories and they can do more harm than good.

Why? When it's all consumed by the heat death of the universe anyway, what difference does a little harm or goodness make? It's all the same, and talking in terms of 'good' or 'bad' or 'harm' are pointless.

Re:Safe trip? (4, Funny)

sootman (158191) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743779)

> ... personality dissolved into nothingness at the moment
> her brain's neurons broke connection with one another
> when they were deprived of oxygen.

Cool, I'm totally putting that on my tombstone.

Re:Safe trip? (0, Offtopic)

SternisheFan (2529412) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743979)

People do not want to admit that death==nonexistence so they make-up imaginary "trips" to some other place (heaven, hell, Elysian Fields, space, whatever). In reality Sally Ride's personality dissolved into nothingness at the moment her brain's neurons broke connection with one another when they were deprived of oxygen.

I was where you're at once. 20 years ago, my friend 'passed' from stomach cancer at age 35, young. The docs gave him 2 months, he lasted 7, we took him to Atlantic City for his dying wish. He was home to die thanks to the local hospice, and I was blessed to be able to be there, to help him and his wife any way I could. A lot of weird unexplainable shit happened in that room. All I can say is, keep an open mind about things, young man. There's more going on in this life than what we can see, that is my experience. Think what you will, I know what I know, and those 7 months spent helping out permanently changed my thinking, and the direction of my life, for the better. One last thing. Young Sir, after you die, get ready for a surprise!

Re:Safe trip? (1, Flamebait)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744093)

the world is a shit-hole. animals feed on each other in order to survive. feed on each other in severe pain

you think a kind and wonderful designer came up with this?

now, I'm a carnivore, don't get me wrong. but I do see something horribly wrong with the notion that some infinitely smart and powerful being came up with this idea as his 'best attempt'.

life, as we know it and can see it, is all the proof one needs that there can't be a benevolent designer.

"oh, but you don't know all the details!"

bullshit answer. no designer worth anything would have 'designed' this world as it is.

I'm constantly amazed that people can suspend actual thinking when it comes to the notion of gods.

btw, you don't know shit about what comes after. stop acting like you know something. you don't. you're fooled and your emotions won't let your reasoning thru. its really just that simple. remove the handicap and you'll see things as they are. sans gods, demons, fairies and witches.

and while I'm on the subject, why believe in some of those and not others? I have as much 'proof' of demons and witches as you have of your favorite god story.

One last thing. Young Sir, after you die, get ready for a surprise!

stupid sheep.

Re:Safe trip? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744275)

It still baffles me that people assume that they can honestly state anything more than "I don't know" when discussing something that by its very definition cannot be known.

Re:Safe trip? (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744413)

That's cool man. Not ordering you to "believe" anything. I'd always been a 'prove it to me' kinda' guy myself. Well, for me, it was 'proven'. Just wish it wasn't proved up to me the way it happened, is all. Slashdot is where people can freely post ideas and opinions, which is what I've done. As they say, "Opinions and assholes. Everyone's got one!" You have a good, happy life, my friend. S.F.

Re:Safe trip? (3, Insightful)

Capsaicin (412918) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744735)

Over the same 20 year period that you have been slipping into ... what should we call it ... spiritualism, my wife has been nursing in ICU and cardiac wards. Though she was raised to be religious, the many deaths she has witnessed have moved her from the "imaginary" position (to quote OP) to one more in keeping with the available evidence: that is something not dissimilar from OP's observation that "personality [is] dissolved into nothingness at the moment the brain's broke connection with one another."

Despite all the chatter of "weird unexplainable shit" happening, no-one has yet been able to provide any persuasive evidence of human consciousness existing absent a functioning human brain.

Old man, after you die, chances are you won't be aware that the surprise never came.

Re:Safe trip? (1)

Roachie (2180772) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744067)

At last I found you O Great Philosopher!

Might I be so bold as to suggest you elaborate on your philosophy- but this time use the very effective technique of explaining it as a Car Analogy?

for example: "life is like car... when its out of gas.... it dont go anymore.... and thats it."

Re:Safe trip? (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744357)

And you base that on... what, exactly? Because I suspect it's based entirely on your need to feel smarter than other people.

The truth is, we have no understanding of what makes up the mind/spirit/soul/consciousness/free-choice-widget. Maybe you choose to believe there's no such thing, but I doubt it. I've yet to meet someone who honestly believed that they had no free will, and lived their life that way.

Re:Safe trip? (1)

Capsaicin (412918) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744425)

People do not want to admit that death==nonexistence

But death != non-existence, as anyone who has smelt a decaying cadaver can attest. "Her final trip" means the drive to the crematorium, or?

Charles Tart on moving past materialistic thinking (0)

Paul Fernhout (109597) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744721)

"People do not want to admit that death==nonexistence so they make-up imaginary 'trips' to some other place (heaven, hell, Elysian Fields, space, whatever). In reality Sally Ride's personality dissolved into nothingness at the moment her brain's neurons broke connection with one another when they were deprived of oxygen."

For another perspective, see: http://noetic.org/search/?q=survival [noetic.org]
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/tart/ [ucdavis.edu]
http://physicalismisdead.blogspot.com/2012/05/charles-tart-on-postmortem-survival.html [blogspot.com]
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=charles+tart [youtube.com]
http://www.amazon.com/States-Consciousness-Charles-Tart/dp/0595151965 [amazon.com]
http://www.amazon.com/The-End-Materialism-Evidence-Paranormal/dp/1572246456 [amazon.com]
"Charles Tart reconciles the scientific and spiritual worlds by looking at empirical evidence for the existence of paranormal phenomena that point toward our spiritual nature, including telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition, psychokinesis, and psychic healing.
    Science seems to tell us that we are all meaningless products of blind biological and chemical forces, leading meaningless lives that will eventually end in death. The truth is that unseen forces such as telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition, psychokinesis, psychic healing, and other phenomena inextricably link us to the spiritual world, and while many skeptics and scientists deny the existence of these spiritual phenomena, the experiences of millions of people indicate that they do take place.
    In this book, copublished with the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS), transpersonal psychologist Charles Tart presents over fifty years of scientific research conducted at the nation's leading universities that proves humans do have natural spiritual impulses and abilities. The End of Materialism presents an elegant argument for the union of science and spirituality in light of this new evidence, and explains why a truly rational viewpoint must address the reality of a spiritual world. Tart's work marks the beginning of an evidence-based spiritual awakening that will profoundly influence your understanding of the deeper forces at work in our lives."

Sadly, it looks like Sally Ride might have died of sunlight deficiency and vegetable deficiency:
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health-conditions/cancer/pancreatic-cancer/ [vitamindcouncil.org]

That's too bad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743287)

I'm glad the news made it to Slashdot (and even the same day!) but that summary left me scratching my head a little.

"Her Final Flight"?
"Here's to wishing her a safe trip on her final journey."?

Is that like a bizarre modernization of Greek mythologies surrounding death, and offered in earnest?

Let me clear it up for you... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743653)

It is simply pointing out a belief in Secular Frisbeeism.
The "final flight" is when your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck for all time.

- May you find the shingles soft Sally! -

Only the good die young (2)

virgilcaine (1778646) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743289)

Tough chick, we should all miss her.

RIP Sally (4, Interesting)

slasher999 (513533) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743295)

I still remember that historic launch. Her name was one everyone who was old enough to remember knew and never forgot from that day forward.

Re:RIP Sally (4, Interesting)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744317)

What I didn't know until now is that she was a lesbian. Which is fair enough, if she was out back then she probably wouldn't have been considered a good role model. Good for her, she broke ground in more ways than one.

true pioneer (2, Insightful)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743321)

Sally Ride was a true pioneer and hero.

I suspect that many if not most of the people who follow Slashdot don't believe in religious superstition. I find it truly unfortunate that someone would take advantage of her untimely passing and use it as an opportunity to preach his own religious views. And yes, I expect other supposedly "religious" people will now resort to name calling to mod me down rather than enter into discussion.

Re:true pioneer (-1, Flamebait)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743413)

tolerance of superstition is not tolerance.

when you are dead you are dead. there isn't any 'safe trip' about it.

let the myth of afterlife 'die' already!

Re:true pioneer (3)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743509)

tolerance of superstition is not tolerance.

What?

Re:true pioneer (4, Insightful)

RearNakedChoke (1102093) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743561)

tolerance of superstition is not tolerance.

when you are dead you are dead. there isn't any 'safe trip' about it.

let the myth of afterlife 'die' already!

Of course its tolerance, regardless of what you think about it. You live most of your life based, not on logic, but on personal preferences and emotional impulses that have little scientific justification. And I do too. And so the other 7 billion people on this planet.

Re:true pioneer (3, Insightful)

bmo (77928) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744019)

tolerance of superstition is not tolerance.

As a militant agnostic, I have to point out that your post is nothing but flamebait.

It is devoid of argument outside of assertion. It has no foundation. It is an accusation with nothing behind it. You are almost begging people to flame you.

Intolerance of belief is just as bad as intolerance of non-belief. Indeed it gives those with a system of religion ammunition to fuel whatever persecution complex they're nursing. So it leads to backlash. You decried the Moral Majority in another post. Stop giving them bad things to say about us.

To quote the Letter to the Touro Synagogue: The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent national gifts. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support. ...

May the children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid. -- G. Washington.

Go sit under your own fig tree.

--
BMO

Re:true pioneer (0)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744193)

you're ok, then, with parents of that religion that thinks only god can cure illness and that doctors are the work of the devil?

we are supposed to just accept this, in the same way that some people like chocolate and some like vanilla?

no, tolerance of bullshit is wrong. its not moral equivalence.

should we tolerate the old testament idea that the age of adulthood (and marriage) is 13? BUT GOD SAID SO! god can't be wrong, can he?

I could go on to list hundreds of bible errors that prove, as much as you can prove, that its all made-up crap designed to control primitive man (using george carlin's words here; he said it much better than I can).

religious thinking is what stops a lot of science from moving onward. have you been asleep the last 10 or so years? stem cells are not 'approved by god' and so we can't allow cures to be developed.

lets not even talk about the middle east. it should go without saying how 'great' religion is and how much of a 'help' to mankind its been.

john lenon really was right. we'd be better off if we stopped the fairy worship and just took better care of each other while we are actually here.

religion is harmful. the only ones who don't understand are those too strongly under its spell.

(and you know, its only in the last few decades that one can even SAY this without fear of being threatened with death.)

man would be better without religion. more harm is done under its name than under any other name. do you argue that?

Re:true pioneer (1)

bmo (77928) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744209)

>a whole lot of stuff I didn't say, accusing me of endorsing physical and mental abuse of children

You're an asshole. You disgust me.

Meet your new status.

--
BMO

Re:true pioneer (2)

humanrev (2606607) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744371)

What the fuck man? Are you one of those "all or nothing" types who don't understand the concept of degrees?

Most of the people in the world are religious. You will therefore find yourself constantly rubbing people the wrong way if you're unable to tolerate their beliefs in at least a passive way (as in "that person is religious - OK then", and move on). Having said that, it's correct that you SHOULDN'T tolerate things like your first example - stupid parents thinking that only God can cure an illness and denying their child the help of modern medicine. Such thinking leads to unnecessary death and suffering and shouldn't be tolerated... yet most religious people don't think like that, so why bash those who are light or moderate believers if they're not harming anyone?

âoeSo I say, âoeLive and let live.â Thatâ(TM)s my motto. âoeLive and let live.â And anyone who canâ(TM)t go along with that, take him outside and shoot the motherfucker. Itâ(TM)s a simple philosophy, but itâ(TM)s always worked in our family.â
â George Carlin

Re:true pioneer (5, Insightful)

ClickOnThis (137803) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743417)

Sally Ride was a true pioneer and hero.

I suspect that many if not most of the people who follow Slashdot don't believe in religious superstition. I find it truly unfortunate that someone would take advantage of her untimely passing and use it as an opportunity to preach his own religious views. And yes, I expect other supposedly "religious" people will now resort to name calling to mod me down rather than enter into discussion.

As she literally flew, if you will, to "the heavens" during her lifetime, I see nothing wrong with suggesting metaphorically that she's doing it now for the final time. Yes, the imagery is religious. But it seems to fit the situation well.

Goodbye, Sally.

Re:true pioneer (0)

JustOK (667959) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743427)

How is this preaching?

Re:true pioneer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743497)

http://amultiverse.com/2012/06/27/the-militant-atheist/

Re:true pioneer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743607)

Considering she was 12 when the first woman went into space, she wasn't really THAT much of a pioneer, but still one of a very very few to get to go out there.

Re:true pioneer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744575)

Are you against euphemisms as well?

my drunk, lecherous old grandfather is now 98 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743323)

So, since there is no afterlife and we all just end up as dust, I declare him the winner.

Sure, more people will look up to this woman now she's gone, but she can't care - she's gone.

God Speed Sally Ride... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743327)

I remember watching her launch on tv in 5th grade. Shuttle launches at its best during the 80's led me to my career choice, mechanical engineering. God speed Sally Ride, thank you for your contributions to science.

First bitch, nigger, kike, jap, midget, WTF? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743385)

Why do we do this shit? Shouldn't the story be, "white males allow somebody else to the front of the bus"?

Re:First bitch, nigger, kike, jap, midget, WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743469)

Are you mad since we haven't let you sit in the front, yet?

Re:First bitch, nigger, kike, jap, midget, WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743475)

We sent a midget into space?

Re:First bitch, nigger, kike, jap, midget, WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743609)

Dunno, but but we sure as hell didn't send any niggers into space because as you know, they would turn invisible. Makes em pretty hard to keep an eye on and make sure they don't steal the moon rocks or something. GNFOS is a work of fiction, people.

Rest well Sally (4, Insightful)

ravenswood1000 (543817) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743437)

Rest well Sally. Sorry you passed away because of such a horrible condition. You did good maam.

Re:Rest well Sally (1)

Kittenman (971447) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743655)

Rest well Sally. Sorry you passed away because of such a horrible condition. You did good maam.

Well said. Condolences to her family, who have lost a remarkable lady.

No more manned spaceflight and no cure for cancer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743481)

I'm sorry if I'm coming off pessimistic but this whole Sally Ride makes me think how different areas of technology have moved at wildly different speeds. It's a bit pathetic actually. Neil Stephenson and others have also talked about the slowdown and recent disappointments in non-information technology related fields and I tend to agree with them.

Yes, it is a sad day... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743553)

...when a supposed 'news for nerds' website starts alluding to dead people going on 'final trips'. What is this, Fox News? The Bible network?

curious what pops into your head at these times (1)

Crypto Gnome (651401) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743567)

like the chorus from Mustang Sally [youtube.com] .

She's dead. (1)

REALMAN (218538) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743611)

There is no "final journey'. When the brain stops working. life ends.

Re:She's dead. (3, Informative)

riverat1 (1048260) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743967)

It's a metaphor son.

Ride, Sally Ride! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743625)

All I wanna do is ride around Sally!

Re:Ride, Sally Ride! (1)

ChrisMaple (607946) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743901)

T.A.N.J.

Here's to wishing her a safe trip... (1)

Widowwolf (779548) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743637)

Maybe she will get cremated and her ashes sent into outer space, which technically would be a final journey

Sally Ride was a Lesbian (5, Informative)

adisakp (705706) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743669)

I found out reading her obituary that she had a partner of 27 years, a fact that - despite her status as an American Hero - was not publicly announced until after her death.

Re:Sally Ride was a Lesbian (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743835)

Clearly, a nominal condition @ NASA.

Re:Sally Ride was a Lesbian (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743861)

Except she wasn't (publicly) a lesbian when she rode the shuttle. She was married to Steve Hawley (another astronaut). They married in 1982, she got her seat on the shuttle in 1983. She got together again with Tam O'Shaughnessy in 1985 (they were childhood friends), and she divorced Hawley in 1987. I would suspect that the marriage to Steve Hawley was more a political move (on her part, at least) to dispel any question within NASA about her sexuality and secure her position as the first American woman in space. Had she been an admitted lesbian in 1983, I seriously doubt she would have gotten her shot to go into space. The fact that she left NASA the same year she divorced Hawley lends credence to the possibility that the revelation of her sexuality (at least, internally within the organization) ended her space career.

Re:Sally Ride was a Lesbian (1)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743895)

So she was also the first U.S. lesbian in space; but was she the first lesbian in space? Who was the first gay man in space, or has that happened yet?

Re:Sally Ride was a Lesbian (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744333)

Considering the first woman in space was 49 years before her, its likely that she was not.

I had no idea, I just read ridding rockets too. (1)

CaptnCrud (938493) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744737)

According to mike mullane the author and fellow astronaut, a lot of the guys (he admits most of them where planet ad primates like himself) thought she wore her feminisim like a chip on her shoulder. I guess being in the closet kind of explains that. Mike also goes on to say how shocked all of them where that she dated and married steve hawley in the first place. Since he was the biggest womenizer out of the whole group. He attested that to steves charm, but still it was shocking non the less. I got the feeling from his perspective he really didnt like her at all, and thought that judith resnik should have been the one to claim the first "title" since she actually stuck with the program (until she died on challenger). Anyway RIP, Ms.Ride. You accomplished far more then I ever did.

Re:Sally Ride was a Lesbian (2)

RabidReindeer (2625839) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744155)

I cried a little when I heard she died.

Then I read about her having a "partner" and cried a little more. I would have loved to have her fly me to the moon. Dang.

Re:Sally Ride was a Lesbian (5, Insightful)

Swampash (1131503) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744661)

Ride's partner of 27 years, Tam O'Shaughnessy, will be denied federal benefits because the Defense of Marriage Act says that was an unrelationship, not like the real relationships that good Christian hetero real Americans have.

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

Vagina Pioneer! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743811)

Wow, so Ride was the first human to carry a vagina into space! But only after men first made it possible and (seemingly) safe. Such a special accomplishment, hysterical, er, historical.

Death is not a flight, it is the end of you. (1, Interesting)

itsybitsy (149808) | more than 2 years ago | (#40743879)

Death is not a flight, it's not a trip, it's not a journey, it is the obliteration of you where you cease to exist the moment your brain cells have died.

"What happens after you die? Nature is a harsh mistress indeed.

What happens after death is very clear, your body rots as it’s being recycled by Nature and “you” are permanently and utterly obliterated you cease to be no magical heaven, no roasting hell, you just cease to be when your brain stops working that’s it nothing more.

What happens when you take something apart, such as a car? As you begin to remove non-critical pieces it’s still a car, you can take the roof off and it’s still a car, you can take the hub caps off and it’s still a car, you can even take the doors off and it’s still a car; taking the wheels off and while it’s still a car it’s now a disabled car but at some point as you remove parts – critical parts – it’s no longer a car; and if as you take those parts off the car and destroy them so there is no chance of putting it back together either that’s what happens with humans and other living things at some point a critical component or critical components are removed or cease functioning that are critical for it to be alive and that’s it that is the moment you cease to be – when your brain stops functioning, just like a car ceases to be.

Now to be sure, did the car go to “car heaven”? Nope, it simple ceased to be, it vanished it’s car-ness is no more it existed from the point that it’s critical parts made it a car and was a car while it was a car and then it ceased to be after it was disassembled at that critical moment when enough parts where removed that it ceased to be

Enjoy being alive. It is all that matters. Everything else is meaningless.

There is no mystery about death. Only people who don’t want to face it or those that don’t like it make it mysterious and invent alleged gods and being saved by jesus to a futile pitiful attempt to defy the objective reality of Nature in it’s harshness and cold fact of obliterating end of life.

Science wins over mythology. If after reading the attached article/document you still believe in the resurrection of jesus you know that you’re highly delusional and denying the facts of life in the objective reality of Nature.

BE. Even BE kind to others. For no other reason than the shocking horror of our own ceasing to be.

Here is the science:"
http://pathstoknowledge.net/2010/07/29/what-happens-after-you-die/ [pathstoknowledge.net]

Re:Death is not a flight, it is the end of you. (0)

SternisheFan (2529412) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744245)

So you compare yourself to a car? A hunk of metal and plastic is all you on par with? When my friend was dying, his cousin (also my friend) was of the mind that, "we die, rot in a box and get eaten by worms!" Technically true, at least for the shell that houses our spirit. The friend I speak of had his own 'moment of confusion' while his cousin was dying, witnessed stuff in the 'death room' that even his proud, logical, German mind could not explain. I'm NOT religious, more like a deist, if anything. And I totally agree with your 'be good to other people' sentiment, but try to keep an open mind about things. As a logical thinker, I cannot "prove" to you or anyone else that this life is like kindergarten, that there is a first grade we all get to 'graduate' to. And by the same token, as a logical thinker, you can not dis-prove to me what I know from my life experience. And it's all good my friend(s). Live the golden rule, don't do stupid shit like shooting up movie theaters just because you can, and live your life well,with honor. Like the late, great Ms. Ride lived hers.

Re:Death is not a flight, it is the end of you. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744523)

If there is no mystery about death, how come we cannot reverse it? Why can't we restore a bacteria back to life after it is dead?
What is the exact point in which a body is considered dead? What really changes between a moment before and a moment after?
How can you be sure of what happens to conciousness after death if counciousness itself cannot be fully explained yet?

Re:Death is not a flight, it is the end of you. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744691)

I've already been dead from the beginning of time up till the late 70s, there's really no mystery about what it's like.

American exceptionalism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40743923)

To think that the first American maker of sammiches in space is gone brings a tear to my eye.

first woman space socialist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744079)

waste of tax payer money

fuck you cancer (2)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744101)

god i fucking hate cancer.

Re:fuck you cancer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744725)

god i fucking hate cancer.

Me too. What sucks about (as yet) uncurable cancers is that you're helpless to do anything about it. You cant argue with it, fight it away, wish it away, nothing. No matter, it'll do what it'll do. If you gotta' hate something in life, hate cancer. Love those afflicted by it. Peace to you.

rest in peace (1)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744125)

in my less angry mode, i remember talking about salyl ride when i was a kid. these were real people we could look up to. i dont know if they have a name for that kind of idealism of youth but i still think it is worth something, even after all we have been through and all we have learned about our own failures and mistakes as a species.

Why did it take so long? (4, Interesting)

sageres (561626) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744189)

The first woman in space was Valentina Tereshkova. She flew on June 16th, 1963. That was two years after the first man flew into the space.
On the other hand, the first American woman (Sally Ride, RIP) flew in 1982.
Question: Why did it take NASA almost two decades to send the woman in space?

Re:Why did it take so long? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744325)

because capitalism is built on patriarchy and racism.

Re:Why did it take so long? (2)

SternisheFan (2529412) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744329)

The first woman in space was Valentina Tereshkova. She flew on June 16th, 1963. That was two years after the first man flew into the space. On the other hand, the first American woman (Sally Ride, RIP) flew in 1982. Question: Why did it take NASA almost two decades to send the woman in space?

Answer: At that time it was still very much a male dominated society in the U.S. Ms Ride shattered that way of thinking then, made a lot of then male-chauvinists begin to think, 'differently'. She knowingly 'rode an untested controlled bomb', in the search of knowledge. That is quite a brave feat that many males would have been too afraid to do. Gotta' respect that

Theres a song about that (1)

Killer Instinct (851436) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744241)

Ride Sally Ride
-KI

Fly in peace (1)

opkool (231966) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744309)

Fly in peace Sally.

Now cancer cannot touch you.

Your dream will live on with younger generations, thanks to your books and Sally Ride Science.

Peace!

A talented and brave lady (1)

HuguesT (84078) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744383)

First American woman in space, she also served on both the Challenger and Columbia disaster investigation committees. She was not outspoken about her personal life but spared no effort so that future endeavors into space might be safer.

We are all sorry for her family's loss.

Sally at JPL, circa 1985 (3, Informative)

Xilinx_guy (551837) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744419)

I met Sally (briefly) at JPL, after her 1984 Challenger mission. My impression was of someone who was confident, supremely able, and didn't worry a lot how she dressed. I got this impression since she showed up at the lab wearing shorts, and seemed instantly at home, like she'd been working there for years. Her later partnership with Tam was a surprise, since she gave no hint of that during her astronaut years. But yes, getting a ride on the big machine in the early 80's was a very political game, as much about appearances as it was about ability. And ability she had in spades. During the October 84 Challenger mission, all kinds of shit went wrong. An RF antenna cable on the radar overloaded and started arcing, causing the SNR to radically drop. The monitoring equipment at Johnson acted up, showing loss of TDRS downlink data when it was actually fine. I also seem to recall that Sally had to take apart parts of the shuttle with a wrench to get access to the data recorder, because of some malfunction or other. So overall, the mission was a disaster. But Sally took it all in stride. Best wishes, Sally. Some of us remember you.

Ride Sally Ride (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40744463)

it's not your time it's just your confusion.

Wheel of Fortune Sally Ride Heavy Metal Suicide. (1)

asn (4418) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744763)

47 down, 9 to go: Queen Elizabeth II, Brigitte Bardot, Fidel Castro, Chubby Checker, Bob Dylan, John Glenn, Doris Day, and Bernhard Goetz.

The cat food can (4, Insightful)

andyring (100627) | more than 2 years ago | (#40744775)

Wow. I'm honestly quite surprised at what is a fairly high level of vitriol over what people choose to believe or not believe from a religious standpoint. C'mon, people. Can't we just let someone hold their religious beliefs without going out of our way to mock and deride them because you think you know better?

Ponder your cat. It has it's own world, it lives life freely, is fairly intelligent. It can plan, make decisions, etc. And yet it is not remotely possible for that kitty to understand, when you open the cat food can, how that food got there. All kitty understands is that you open the can and the food is simply there. Kitty's mind is not able to comprehend how that cat food came to be created, how it was packaged, labeled, transported, sold, etc. Kitty's brain isn't capable of understanding it. To kitty, it's not even a known unknown, it's an unknown unknown (to use some military/war/intelligence terminology).

Why couldn't us mere humans be the same way? Why couldn't there be a God or similar being whose entire existence completely and totally transcends ours? I realize that *could* open the face-two-mirrors-at-each-other paradox, but lets set that aside for the moment. To put it simply - just because you cannot conclusively prove that a God does not exist DOES NOT mean that God doesn't exist.

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