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US Army Developing Armor Tailored For Females

Unknown Lamer posted about a year and a half ago | from the still-waiting-for-armored-skants dept.

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cylonlover writes, quoting Gizmag: "Body armor is a blessing and a curse for soldiers. Modern tactical armor has saved thousands of lives from bullets and bombs, but it can also be a major problem if it doesn't fit properly. That's what the women who make up 14 percent of the U.S. Army face on a regular basis. Now, according to the Army News Service, the Army is preparing to test a new armor that is tailored to the female form to replace the standard men's armor that the women now use. Working on data collected in studies overseas and at stateside army bases, the Program Executive Office (PEO) Soldier has identified several problem areas and has developed a new armor that will be tested in 2013."

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"...has identified several problem areas and..." (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764293)

Who ever considered breasts a problem area? Seriously...

edit: captcha spelled "maternal". Hah.

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (5, Informative)

durrr (1316311) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764375)

It's not a chainmail bikini and hence the armor rating is really shitty when worn by females.

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (5, Informative)

Adult film producer (866485) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764483)

As an example, my wife has two scars between her breasts from burning hot shells from a 50 cal machine gun while she was in Iraq. Because she's a D-cup the body armor she was wouldn't fit tight against the neck area like it does on a man.. she describes it as nearly impossible to reach down and grab the shell, sometimes there wasn't time to do anything about it.

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764521)

pics or it didnt happen

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (3, Insightful)

CCarrot (1562079) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764737)

pics or it didnt happen

Grow up and show some respect, asshole.

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (-1, Flamebait)

citizenr (871508) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764919)

pics or it didnt happen

Grow up and show some respect, asshole.

Why? Just because his wife murdered some freedom fighters?

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765195)

Pull your head out of your ass and stop making assumptions. You think you're intelligent but all you spout is BS talking points someone else came up with.

1) The post said she was shot. It didn't say she shot back, so you don't know if she killed anyone.
2) Those so called "freedom fighters" were either A) ex-Iraqi Army soldiers who basically fled in the face of the US military and joined the militias, so the same idiots who worked for Saddam and oppressed other Iraqis, or B) people who joined militias that not only fought the US military but just as often attacked their fellow Iraqis for having the "wrong kind of Islam". You can argue the reasons for the US going into Iraq, but I live in the biggest Marine town in the US (San Diego) and have met numerous marines, and all of them in Iraq really did try to help the Iraqi people. Freedom fighters my ass, they only wanted the freedom to oppress those different from themselves. The only good guys in the whole Iraqi conflict was the average US soldier.

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765307)

1) The post said she was shot. It didn't say she shot back, so you don't know if she killed anyone.

No it didn't. It said she was injured from the shells. As in, the stuff that remains when the bullet goes through. Which means she was doing the shooting.

Pull your head out of your ass and stop making assumptions. You think you're intelligent but all you spout is BS talking points someone else came up with.

Feeling mighty stupid now, aren't yer?

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (2)

rhyder128k (1051042) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765043)

Yeah, because I'm sure that Adult film producer (866485) would be very offended at the thought of women's breasts being considered sexual.

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (1, Troll)

CCarrot (1562079) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765285)

Yeah, because I'm sure that Adult film producer (866485) would be very offended at the thought of women's breasts being considered sexual.

Really? That's what you took from his juvenile, knee-jerk comment? Would you say the same if he said his wife had to have a mastectomy?

She got scarred in a very personal place, as a direct result of serving her country, all for a reason that should have been addressed a decade or more ago. I really hope she's not self-conscious about it, but it surely must bother her a bit.

What would be your response if, instead, it was you wearing pants designed for women, and the fact that your little weenis pushed the front out far enough to let shells drop into the front of your pants resulted in scarring? Not so funny now, eh?

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (0)

durrr (1316311) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765225)

Come on now. The guy with a wife with scarred tits is named Adult film producer. To just ask for a pic is a rather modest request, personally I'd request the whole filmography featuring his wife.

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (0)

ethanms (319039) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764581)

Your username plus your description of your wife... good lord man, let's hang out.

BTW, glad to hear it sounds like her injuries may be limited to a couple of scars (physical ones anyway)

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (4, Funny)

crakbone (860662) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764751)

The amount of awesome in your post is amazing for slash dot. 1) wife 2) d-cup 3) using a 50. cal 4) body armor. 5) reaching between You have reached a Nirvana few slashdotters will ever attain. ps Tell her "thank you for all shes done for the country."

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765009)

When you've told her that, tell her "thanks for going abroad to kill a bunch of people who did absolutely nothing to us, sowing hatred and misery and encouraging anti-western terrorism, all so a bunch of fat liars could get even richer."

Maybe she naively signed up to defend her country and democracy and liberty and unicorns and all that shit, but that's not how she ended up getting used. Whatever her intentions, she achieved nothing but bad things. Sorry if that's a difficult truth, but it is the truth. I hope for everyone's sake she's now out of the military and doing something more productive with her life. Sitting at home watching soap operas all day would qualify.

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765221)

Anonymous - no surprise with such a small-minded, group-love, hell-no-we-won't-go, dope smoking retard. I hope the next terrorist strike hits so close to home for you, you never forget it. If we're lucky it will either kill you or just leave unable to reproduce.

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (1)

nightfire-unique (253895) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765229)

As an example, my wife has two scars between her breasts from burning hot shells from a 50 cal machine gun while she was in Iraq. Because she's a D-cup the body armor she was wouldn't fit tight against the neck area like it does on a man.. she describes it as nearly impossible to reach down and grab the shell, sometimes there wasn't time to do anything about it.

A 50-cal machine gun? Good lord.. what was she shooting?

Appreciation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765289)

I appreciate the insight. Far too often such problems are overlooked by the men in charge because of lust and the women in charge because of envy. I really do enjoy learning about the other side of things.

The lighter side of this. [bustygirlcomics.com]

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764711)

(or vagina)

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764941)

I have evaluated your statement and found it having the value of true.

Re:"...has identified several problem areas and... (2)

vlm (69642) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765007)

Who ever considered breasts a problem area? Seriously...

edit: captcha spelled "maternal". Hah.

I think they're referring to the maternity wear. Men's tac vests are too loose around the waste on hourglass non-prego women and too tight on the preggos.

Problem areas (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764295)

ymmv

My novel idea (5, Insightful)

MyLongNickName (822545) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764301)

My novel idea is reducing injuries and fatalities through getting involved in fewer conflicts. It is a radical idea, but it just might work.

Re:My novel idea (5, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764333)

How will that make defense contractors rich?

Re:My novel idea (2)

assertation (1255714) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764731)

richER

They are already the 1%ers and getting hefty tax brakes while the rest of us foot the bill for their wars and infrastructure

Re:My novel idea (3, Insightful)

vlm (69642) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765031)

How will that make defense contractors rich?

See "cold war" and "MAD" on wikipedia.

Not too many 9 MT h-bombs have been detonated in anger, but a hell of a lot of money got made off them.

Also see american chemical weapons, american bio weapons, etc. I love those things... so awful they never got used.

Re:My novel idea (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764373)

While I agree in principle, that doesn't remove the need for this kind of advancement. Regardless of how peaceful and friendly you are, there's always a chance of someone, somewhere attacking you, at which point you probably want to have decent gear for your armed forces.

Re:My novel idea (4, Insightful)

N0Man74 (1620447) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764695)

Sure, but can we compare and contrast these two things?

1) Having a reasonable standing army, in case it is needed.

2) Making military spending to be one of the biggest priorities of the country, showering military contractors with money in the hopes of being the most powerful military in the world, and allowing rich and powerful men who profit from war have too much influence on whether we enter conflicts.

Re:My novel idea (3, Insightful)

arth1 (260657) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764761)

While I agree in principle, that doesn't remove the need for this kind of advancement. Regardless of how peaceful and friendly you are, there's always a chance of someone, somewhere attacking you, at which point you probably want to have decent gear for your armed forces.

Given how friendly fire, negligent discharge, fragging and collateral damage appears to be such huge risks, I think they should look at redesigning the back first, not the front...

Re:My novel idea (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764497)

My novel idea is reducing injuries and fatalities through getting involved in fewer conflicts. It is a radical idea, but it just might work.

That's not something the Army has authority to do, though. Talk to the politicians if you want our military commitments to change.

Re:My novel idea (2)

ethanms (319039) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764529)

Since there will be conflicts (or at least preparation and equipping for them) the problem still remains even if we follow your suggestion.

Complete world peace with no armed conflicts is simply not going to happen as long as their is competition for resource and space.

So let's focus on the actual problem of properly protecting and equipping our female soldiers.

Re:My novel idea (3, Insightful)

dpilot (134227) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765001)

I largely agree with you, but I don't really believe that competition for resource and space is the cause of most armed conflicts today. Instead I believe over-sized egos and over-hyped nationalism exaggerate the perception of competition for resource and space. War is usually good for the leaders, no matter how much they may say (and perhaps truly feel) they hate it.

Sounds good (5, Insightful)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764929)

We'll just disband the military entirely and stop all research. After all, if we don't want to get in to a conflict, it'll never happen right? No nation has EVER been attacked or invaded without starting shit.

Oh please. While I agree that the US need to stop trying to play world police and getting involved in shit all over, that doesn't mean that a military still isn't going to be needed. Not many countries can get away with having no military and the ones that can it is only because another nation or nations protects them.

This is quite a sensible thing for the military to spend money on. Some women wish to serve as soldiers, they should have body armour that works for them.

Re:My novel idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765215)

Civilians need body armor more than soldiers

Hit it! (5, Funny)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764309)

Sweet! Booty armor!

Re:Hit it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764647)

Wouldn't that be Booby armor?!?

Re:Hit it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764701)

Am I the only one that was hoping to see more... pictures? I can't help but feel disappointed.

I'm a terrible person...

Does it come in pink? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764313)

Finally something like in Mass Effect?

just one word (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764335)

boobs

If recent threads are anything to go by... (3, Insightful)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764337)

If recent threads on slashdot about anything involving women are anything to go by, this will degenerate into a flame war between mysoginists and normal people.

After all, if women aren't up to the job of wearing body armour, they shouldn't join the army. So what if it puts them off. Should we concentrating on getting more women to become barbage(wo)men?

For the impaired: that is sarcasm.

Oblig WW2 reference (3, Interesting)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764617)

One of the things that is supposed to have demoralised numbers of German soldiers later in WW2 is that so many of the Russian tank crews were women. But why should that be surprising? In the Napoleonic wars and after, the powder room on many British warships (where they kept the explosives, not the toilet) would have been operated by women who, according to the official lists, didn't even exist. It seems amazing that so many of them managed to live on cramped warships in addition to the official crew establishment, but memos from Nelson to John Jervis make it clear that this was a case where sensible officers turned a blind eye.

Re:If recent threads are anything to go by... (2)

ethanms (319039) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764645)

After all, if women aren't up to the job of wearing body armour, they shouldn't join the army.

The counter of course is that it's not they aren't up to it, it's that their form (vs the male form) allows for gaps which can lead them to be exposed to dangers.

As another ./er noted--his wife had gaps at the top of her body armor allowing spent shells to fall between her armor and skin, this lead to physical scars and as someone who has had a shell land in his shirt I can say firsthand that it can affect your aim and cause you to physically react.

Doesn't look effective... (5, Insightful)

Uthic (931553) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764339)

All my gaming experience has taught me that it should be skin-tight and leaves arms, legs and midriff bare.

Chainmail bikini? (1)

KatchooNJ (173554) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764397)

LOL! The old chainmail bikini thing from the 80's D&D era?

I'm a female gamer and I always laughed at that stuff.

Re:Chainmail bikini? (2)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764513)

80s? Ha, trying playing WoW today. Male armor gets more and more bad ass as it gets better and better. Female armor inexplicably gets skimpier and skimpier (despite being the same physical piece of armor). I you could argue that they're parodying the stuff from the 80s... if there were one or two pieces like that, but it's pretty much all the high level stuff.

Re:Chainmail bikini? (2)

KatchooNJ (173554) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764883)

LOL! I've never played WoW, but I guess some things never change. heh ;-)

No they really don't (2)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765013)

Wow is funny because the same armour will look different on the male and female models. You put it on a male and it is a shirt, you put it on a female and it is a halter top, that kind of thing.

I used to think it was just to appeal to the stereotypical male gamer crowd but many women want their characters to be cutesy as well. One problem WoW had in terms of side balance when it was released was the Horde was ugly. All the characters on that side were not very pretty, whereas the Alliance, the other side had pretty characters. This was a complaint from a number of female gamers, and as such later the Horde got a pretty race.

Re:Chainmail bikini? (1)

irwiss (1122399) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765091)

Except there are almost no revealing sets introduced to WoW since around 2008 which was the end of Burning Crusade...

If you want to see chain bikini chliche taken to absurd levels check out Tera, WoW is hardly an example in comparison.

Re:Chainmail bikini? (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764945)

Oh it long, long predates the 80s. You need to go to the D&D inspiration material. Not so much of it in LOTR (49%) but a whole honking lot of it in the old pulp serials (the other 49%).

The last 2% has something to do with derping around with dice or something. ;)

Re:Doesn't look effective... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764755)

In the name of Allah, avert your eyes!

Re:Doesn't look effective... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765037)

The soldiers of Allah shall never hit the US soldiers again!

Doesn't look effective...A Mass-ive effect. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764937)

All the Mass Effect's had the armor done right.

Re:Doesn't look effective... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765051)

Parent should be tagged "funny"... not insightful. unless you decide to tag the tagger or the tag itself as funny but not the taggy :P

Re:Doesn't look effective... (1)

dpilot (134227) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765079)

From STNG it always struck me as funny that the Klingon women wore body armor, but in the name of "Roddenberry Costume Design" that armor always showed cleavage. Great! Put body (bawdy?) armor on the women of a race that's really into personal combat, then leave a gap in that armor right over the heart!

bewbs? (1, Interesting)

SoupGuru (723634) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764345)

Interesting that they can write a whole article on redesigning body armor for women and there's not a single reference to tatas.

Are the main differences really torso length, should width, and waist size? Do chesticles not really factor into the redesign? Or are the authors just being polite and not highlighting jugs as a factor?

Re:bewbs? (0)

gbjbaanb (229885) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764411)

I guess the kind of women who join the army aren't the kind that sit around on your couch eating ice cream out of tubs followed by a plate of doughnuts, and so more likely to have smaller breasts that can be flattened enough to fit - you might have more difficulty fitting your armour if you're a man shaped like Arnold at his peak, certainly he had bigger and more prominent chest area than a lot of women I've known.

Re:bewbs? (1)

Pieroxy (222434) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764467)

I sincerely hope you're joking. Flattened breasts are a pain and very uncomfortable. If you want to be at your best while on the field, it's not the best way to do it.

Re:bewbs? (5, Interesting)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764457)

Quite frankly, all but the extremely endowed will have minimal problems in the chest area. They're not exactly wearing pushup bras into combat obviously, and most women wearing a sports bra don't have an appreciably bigger chest than the average male body builder (though obviously the dimensions will be different and there will always be outliers). The areas they are concerned about are those that either cause the body army to slip out of position by not being adjustable to smaller frames (shoulders and waist) or hamper mobility (torso length).

Re:bewbs? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765233)

Yes, very probably the tits matter. Regardless of the size.

Breasts are soft and tender. With males you can build breast plates relying on the chest taking hits as much as the ribs can take. Squishing boobs, large or small, is something else.

Probably you have to build an armor even resting more on the shoulders or hips than on chest. Even the weight of the armor might be a problem.

Re:bewbs? (5, Insightful)

DerekLyons (302214) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764499)

Are the main differences really torso length, should width, and waist size?

They're a huge part of the difference, yes.
 

Or are the authors just being polite and not highlighting jugs as a factor?

Or maybe they're just being professionals rather than juveniles. (Really, four different slang terms in one post? Grow up.) Or, and I find this likely, given the wide variation in sizes and position of female breasts (and there's no real correlation with other body measurements) they're going for the same "one size fits mostly all" approach.

Re:bewbs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764733)

Really, four different slang terms in one post? Grow up.

I know. All those words that I personally don't approve of... grow up! Stop doing and saying things that I don't like! It somehow indicates that you need to grow up to suit my arbitrary standards!

Re:bewbs? (3, Insightful)

SoupGuru (723634) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765047)

Which is more juvenile:

Not even bringing mammary glands into an article on the topic of how men and women differ in terms of how body armor fits because talking about breasts apparently makes some people uncomfortable

or

Actually talking about how hooters are a pretty significant anatomical difference that would seem to be highly relevant to designing body armor specifically for women.

Re:bewbs? (1)

v1 (525388) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764515)

Interesting that they can write a whole article on redesigning body armor for women and there's not a single reference to tatas.

I found that surprising too. All that discussion about small differences in the shape of the female frame, but no consideration for breast size. Must be very uncomfortable going all day with an armor plate smashing your boobs flat.

I have no personal experience with being in the army, but I'd expect the low percentage of women there get an above-average share of grief if they complain ("quit your whining, woman!") so they're probably loathe to voice their concerns, and are for the most part just having to suffer silently through it. I was just taking it for granted that the military had already adjusted to the presence of women, but apparently they're only just starting now. Glad to see it's getting addressed, even if a bit tardy.

Re:bewbs? (1)

vlm (69642) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765141)

I have no personal experience with being in the army, but I'd expect the low percentage of women there get an above-average share of grief if they complain.... I was just taking it for granted that the military had already adjusted to the presence of women, but apparently they're only just starting now....

I was in, well darn near 20 years ago. First of all field wear has always been pretty baggy... its not some kind of fantasy DND skin tight stuff. God only knows that the girls have going on in there. As a guy who likes to check out the ladies don't waste time looking at field wear.

The skin tight PT uniforms for workouts, oh yeah. The mini-skirted formal uniform (although admittedly not as good as old star trek uniforms), yeah. But they're not talking about those.

Whining always results in grief in .mil don't matter who or why.

Re:bewbs? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764607)

Having worked with many Marines, my guess is that the chest size was not the main issue - young muscle-y men already tend to have larger chest circumference than the (in shape) women I know. Yes, the shape is different, but breasts are fairly malleable, so as long as the chest area is large enough, your chances are pretty good of being able to fit your breasts in.

Shoulders, on the other hand are a really big deal. Imagine if the armor is resting on the edge of the shoulder/upper arm - not only is it much more difficult to support the weight of the armor this way, but this could potentially restrict arm movement. Similarly with torso/waist area, if the armor doesn't sit properly its weight can't be distributed correctly; I'd imagine this causes discomfort at best, and restricted movement or even injury at worst.

Re:bewbs? (3, Informative)

wvmarle (1070040) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764641)

I noticed that too. Especially considering the vast breast size differences between women. TFA focussed very much on how to make it fit nicely around a woman's waist... which I don't think is the key problem spot.

Also reading this story, my first reaction was "don't they have that already?" Long time ago I remember watching a documentary about civilian type body armour, bullet proof vests, typically for use by private security guards or police. The host also asked the manufacturer about vests for women. The answer was simply: yes, we have those as well, they come with cups.

Torso length and shoulder width tend to scale together and there will be various sizes as even men come in different sizes, the fact that women have a problem for shoulder width and torso length is probably mainly because they wear oversized so that their boobs fit in. That is also an issue with general combat uniforms, which tend to be designed for male figures, so women have to take too big sizes.

"Complex Curvatures" (2)

Aero77 (1242364) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764699)

"Complex Curvatures" were specifically mentioned as one of the problem areas (second article).

Re:bewbs? (1)

Quakeulf (2650167) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764825)

Hips and thighs (especially juicy thighs, possibly also a nice behind) would be the main issue here IMHO of course.

Re:bewbs? (1)

Steauengeglase (512315) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765077)

That was the refreshing aspect of the article. It went somewhere other than asking where the boobies go and if we should paint it pink.

Austin Powers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764367)

... the Army is preparing to test a new armor that is tailored to the female form

God help me, my first thought was a combination of Madonna's steel cones combined with Austin Powers fembots' machine gun jubblies [wikia.com].

Valkyries (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764405)

If there are no references to schlockmercenary in this thread I will be mightily disappointed.

Wow (1)

TheSpoom (715771) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764449)

I should be surprised that this hasn't already been done, but given that it's the US military, I'm not surprised at all.

That's good news! (1)

aglider (2435074) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764453)

They finally saw the women are a little bit different from men.
Next step?

Re:That's good news! (1, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764567)

Body armor designed specifically for gay soldiers.

Re:That's good news! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764715)

What the fuck are you on about gay soldiers for? Do you think all gay men are transsexuals? Or that they're all the cliché effeminate stereotype?

Re:That's good news! (1)

aglider (2435074) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764739)

Or it's just a joke?

Re:That's good news! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764861)

Or it's just a joke?

Oh, the fashionable lady-brained gay men cliché joke. I totally get it now. Fuck you both.

Re:That's good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765065)

From the discontinued Wikipedia article about slashdot trolling phenomena:

"Homosexuality is one of the most versatile and popular trolling devices used. In its simplest form it may be used on its own in the form of a homophobic insult or as a feature of a pornographic troll featuring common Slashdot topics and celebrities."

Re:That's good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765133)

Wow go away you idiotic fuckerlord.

Re:That's good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765189)

If he was suggesting that gay soldiers are transexuals or effeminate, then they'd be covered by female body armor now, wouldn't they? Instead, he joked that it was the "next step", as in, a completely separate idea. The GP was not implying that gay soldiers are transexuals or crossdressers. He was not including them with women's body armor. So not only do you not have a sense of humor, you're an irrational idiot to boot.

Re:That's good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764757)

Bulletproof argyle vests with contrast-color trauma pads? Flak cartigans?

Re:That's good news! (4, Interesting)

vlm (69642) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765201)

Body armor designed specifically for gay soldiers.

Extensive historical research (no, I'm not kidding) points out that the army with the most stylish and fashionable uniform almost always loses the war. Just saying. Probably don't want to go there.

MMO Armour (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764471)

For our valued and respected female servicemen one thing MMOs have taught us is that the skimpier the armour the better protection in a fight. A pair of high heels, a metal low-cut bra, suspenders with half length stockings, G-String and little else will give superior protection especially is wielding a sword.

Sorry had to be said (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764525)

the first question was do i look fat in this?

Consumer (3, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764549)

They're also releasing a consumer line of female body armor, available in 28 different colors and patterns including taupe, seafoam green, mauve, purple camo, plaid and hot pink polka dots.

Obligatory (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40764657)

Microsoft Combat Armor for Her
Part Number: 0xB16B00B5

Dragon skin solves this problem (2)

afidel (530433) | about a year and a half ago | (#40764823)

The overlapping plates in Dragon Skin already largely solve this problem by forming to the wearer. The fact that it's better armor than Kevlar + trauma plates is a nice bonus =)

Re:Dragon skin solves this problem (3, Funny)

Antipater (2053064) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765135)

The fact that it's better armor than Kevlar + trauma plates is a nice bonus =)

Against most foes, sure. But what if we end up at war with the bowmen of Esgaroth? You'd be signing our soldiers' death warrants!

I have a better idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765073)

How about instead of spending likely millions (hey defense contractors gotta get paid) making body armor for 14% of the army that has a even lower percent of that 14 that actually get into combat I have a better idea. How about we stop fucking sticking our noses into other countries business and stop fighting useless conflicts that dont do anything but cost us billions and waste shit loads of resources?

So dont make womens body armor and stop getting into useless pissing matches that dont actually resolve anything then we would say billions of dollars, countless hours, lives, resources, time and energy. But we cant do that really, our military is the only thing that makes us relevant to the rest of the world and everyone would stop paying attention to us if we werent constantly shooting our giant dick shaped bombs at them. But hey its ok, were fighting terrorists! Despite the fact we act like terrorists in the process but its all good cause "AMERIKAHS DA GR8TEST! WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! USA USA USA SUPPORT OUR TROOPS YEEEEEHHHAAAA!"

Military Contract (2)

Alsee (515537) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765119)

identified several problem areas

Have someone from the army contact me.
For $2.55 million, plus cost overruns, I can identify two problem areas.

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NEWS FLASH!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765237)

Women's body's shaped different than mens' (thank goodness), news at 11:00.

Just *how* tailored are they? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40765243)

Do they protect against rape?

I have a young & naive step-sister who is going into the Navy. Leggy, tan, good-looking. I don't know what the hell she was thinking, quite frankly. If I had a daughter I sure as hell would be talking her out of signing up until she was damned sure she understood what she was getting into.

The US Military has a fucking EPIDEMIC on their hands with sexual assault and rape (not only but especially for women), and the incidents are swept under the rugs, covered up by those in leadership positions.

Posting anonymous because I'll surely get modded down. Hold your ad hominem attacks on me that might be based on your assumptions about my experience and address the topic at hand.

Now we just need... (0)

englishknnigits (1568303) | about a year and a half ago | (#40765319)

equal numbers of men and women in the military and on the front lines. It's what feminists want right, equality? I wonder why I haven't heard many feminists protesting the inequality in deaths in the military and in dangerous jobs?
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