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Budget 27" IPS Displays From Korea Are For Real

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the but-is-there-a-fruit-logo-on-the-back dept.

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crookedvulture writes "Giant, high-resolution LCD monitors have been around for years, but they've always been prohibitively expensive. Good displays based on IPS panel technology command upwards of $700 for 27" models and closer to $1200 for 30-inchers. However, Korean vendors have started selling similar screens on eBay for roughly half the price. These off-brand models purportedly use the same panels as pricier alternatives, and in practice, they appear to be nearly as good. There are some caveats, of course. The number of inputs may small, HDCP support isn't guaranteed, and user controls can be limited. Those may be deal-breakers for some, but getting a 27", 2560x1440 IPS display for well under $400 will be a deal-maker for others."

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LOL (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40768801)

Yeah, you'll be happy until they break after a few months and have no one to get a refund or RMA from.

Re:LOL (0)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769017)

Yeah, you'll be happy until they break after a few months and have no one to get a refund or RMA from.

Can't wait to have one of these on a phone or tablet.

what? what?

Re:LOL (1)

strstr (539330) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769453)

bring your own insurance. try buying on an amex which provides 90 days protection for most failures and thefts.. plus if there is a warranty, they extend and cover it for upto additional year. if it was advertised a certain way and it turns out to he faulty or lacking warranty, I bet buyer protection through eBay or PayPal has you covered, or would help. most sellers also would do anything to satisfy you to avoid negative feedback and fraud complaints.

Re:LOL (4, Informative)

uigrad_2000 (398500) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769813)

The one that I got gave a phone number and the address of the manufacturer (Yamakasi) in the back of the user manual, along with a map so you could drive up to the manufacturer and get a replacement.

In my case, it didn't even work out of the box, though. I sent it back to the Ebay seller, who claimed that it worked for him, but then stopped responding to my messages. I just filed a Ebay case, and got a full refund, but that same guy is still the main person selling these on Ebay.

sounds interesting (5, Informative)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#40768805)

lack of hdcp support sounds GREAT to me. no license fee, no contribution to the bad ways via my purchase! no supporting a bad regime (hdcp) with my dollars.

I watch using a pc and I never care about 'protected path' content. my dvd's are ripped and saved on a nas, drm-free. I could give a shit about hdcp!

sign me up!

Re:sounds interesting (1)

drunkennewfiemidget (712572) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769013)

Agreed. I learned to rip my blu-rays and content a long time ago.. HDCP is just an irritating technology that further promotes idiotic technology.

Re:sounds interesting (0)

Applekid (993327) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769309)

lack of hdcp support sounds GREAT to me. no license fee, no contribution to the bad ways via my purchase! no supporting a bad regime (hdcp) with my dollars.

I watch using a pc and I never care about 'protected path' content. my dvd's are ripped and saved on a nas, drm-free. I could give a shit about hdcp!

sign me up!

Until you want to use it as an output on something that requires a protected path. Ripped and encoded DVDs, obviously, don't require it.

And, well, you might not want to use anything like that right now. What about the time when everything requires it?

The future of consuming media is bleak indeed. But, that might actually be a good thing for society, judging by the current state of popular media.

Re:sounds interesting (4, Insightful)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769363)

And, well, you might not want to use anything like that right now. What about the time when everything requires it?

So the OP should give up his principles (no contribution to the bad ways via my purchase!) for a little convenience?

Re:sounds interesting (-1)

Applekid (993327) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769799)

And, well, you might not want to use anything like that right now. What about the time when everything requires it?

So the OP should give up his principles (no contribution to the bad ways via my purchase!) for a little convenience?

Not at all.

But a boycott to protest industry actions doesn't solve anything because the industry colludes with itself. It just leaves you without.

The optimal answer is to pressure lawmakers into protecting your rights, that "protected content paths" denies fair use, that hardware ownership really should mean the whole system, not parts of it excluding encryption. The counter to this is that the politicians are already in industry's pocket.

We could always go back to telling stories by fireside. That might not be such a bad thing.

Re:sounds interesting (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769465)

What about the time when everything requires it?

Define everything. Are you suddenly going to start requiring HDCP on your personal recorded videos? I don't think so.

Re:sounds interesting (3, Interesting)

Hatta (162192) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769497)

Until you want to use it as an output on something that requires a protected path.

Which will be never.

What about the time when everything requires it?

Then I'll spend my time agitating instead of consuming entertainment. I think TPTB know better than to withhold circuses.

Re:sounds interesting (1)

Jeng (926980) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769559)

And, well, you might not want to use anything like that right now. What about the time when everything requires it?

Is there now support for HDCP on linux? I tried googling the question, but didn't find an answer that I could be sure was valid.

Anyway, if you cannot use HDCP on linux then the person you replied to may have no reason to purchase HDCP compatible products unless he changes his operating system. (I have no idea if he is on linux or not)

Re:sounds interesting (5, Interesting)

Sloppy (14984) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769745)

What about the time when everything requires [a protected path]?

Should the day come that you can't view a web page without HDCP protection (or when a significant number of people can't do it), then I, as the copyright holder for all my comments, will revoke the authorization that I have given up to now, for people to descramble the HDCP which effectively limits access to my Slashdot comments.

According to DMCA, viewing my comment will become illegal. Making HDCP-compatible monitors will be illegal. Selling HDCP-compatible monitors will be illegal.

Chaos ensues. Make my fucking day, Hollywood. I'll kill you with your own law.

Never, ever apply your DRM to someone else's content, without getting a contract from them that secures descrambling authorization in perpetuity. Otherwise, you make it possible for someone else to cause your DRM scheme to become illegal for anything to be interoperative with. HDCP is a ticking time bomb, waiting for anyone who feels like destroying it, to press the red button.

Re:sounds interesting (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769631)

You could NOT give a shit about HDCP. Stop butchering our language.

Re:sounds interesting (1, Informative)

houstonbofh (602064) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769807)

Or, his is saying "I could give a shit" and implying "but I don't." Or he is saying "I could give a pile of human excrimant for this technology, but not much else." Stop believing that all reading comprehension is done after the first pass.

Common practice. (4, Interesting)

Kenja (541830) | about a year and a half ago | (#40768813)

I assume these are screens that where rejected for minor defects by their intended brand and resold. This happens a lot, even with name brand products such as CISCO network gear.

Re:Common practice. (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769125)

I assume these are screens that where rejected for minor defects by their intended brand and resold. This happens a lot, even with name brand products such as CISCO network gear.

Probably get some great comedy reading the manuals, too, as cut rate electronics sellers usually don't want to tie up any money on wages for people actually capable of translating and editing

for best experience insert power outlet recepticle the power cord before turn on

Re:Common practice. (2)

JDG1980 (2438906) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769391)

Probably get some great comedy reading the manuals, too, as cut rate electronics sellers usually don't want to tie up any money on wages for people actually capable of translating and editing

When was the last time you read your monitor's manual?

I don't recall ever looking at mine. Not once.

Re:Common practice. (2, Funny)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769663)

Probably get some great comedy reading the manuals, too, as cut rate electronics sellers usually don't want to tie up any money on wages for people actually capable of translating and editing

When was the last time you read your monitor's manual?

I don't recall ever looking at mine. Not once.

Must be a chick, that's the only logical reason anyone would ever look at a manual.

Ever.

Re:Common practice. (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769817)

Probably get some great comedy reading the manuals, too, as cut rate electronics sellers usually don't want to tie up any money on wages for people actually capable of translating and editing

When was the last time you read your monitor's manual?

I don't recall ever looking at mine. Not once.

Must be a chick, that's the only logical reason anyone would ever look at a manual.

There are chicks in manuals? I gotta see this. Too bad I threw all mine out. Damn!

Re:Common practice. (2)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769965)

There are chicks in manuals?

... Yea, I suppose you could count Penthouse as a sort of manual...

Re:Common practice. (5, Funny)

vlm (69642) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769969)

Must be a chick, that's the only logical reason anyone would ever look at a manual.

Ever.

My chick did not come with a manual, which would have helped during initial set up and especially during troubleshooting. Seems to malfunction every month. No, she's not a realdoll or even a Korean graymarket purchased off ebay.

Re:Common practice. (1)

ericloewe (2129490) | about a year and a half ago | (#40770111)

"Insert securely lest should be detached in set"

Label from a cable bundled with a Samsung monitor. Guess you don't need obscure vendors to laugh a bit.

USA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40768819)

Why aren't more manufacturers directly importing a bunch to the USA and shipping/supporting from there? Sucks to have to take a risk from ebay with a giant shipping charge.

Re:USA (2, Informative)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769091)

to sell here, you MUST implement 'display protection' (its not copy protection; lets call it what it really is).

but, if they sell direct from overseas, they can skip this.

its a known loophole in many areas. you can even bypass U/L style testing (or CE testing) if you are just selling stuff over direct mail or ebay.

some of the stuff I've gotton direct from china would NOT NOT NOT pass U/L if its life depended on it. I stopped using some gear since, when I opened it, I found the wiring and parts locations to be unsafe (heat buildup, etc).

and so, you take a greater chance when you bypass some of the 'manuf standards' that are enforced on local sales.

Re:USA (2, Informative)

EvanED (569694) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769207)

to sell here, you MUST implement 'display protection' (its not copy protection; lets call it what it really is).

[citation needed]

IANAL, but to my knowledge selling a display without HDCP or whatever isn't in violation of the DMCA, it just won't be able to display content that requires HDCP. That's different from actively circumventing HDCP.

(Also "display protection" isn't any better a term.)

Re:USA (2)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769287)

What a load of BS. The Auria EQ276W doesn't have HDCP and is sold in the US.

Are you sure? Microcenter claims it does (3, Informative)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769397)

Microcenter Specs page for the EQ276W claims it supports HDCP. The one reviewed in the article did not...

Re:USA (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769335)

Funny since I have 2 month old Dell monitors with only DVI inputs and no copy protection. I guess I should alert somene to them selling illegal monitors?

Re:USA (1)

fnj (64210) | about a year and a half ago | (#40770347)

HDCP has nothing whatsoever to do with HDMI. I have DVI monitors that implement HDCP. I had one from before HDMI was invented, and othes since. I'd bet your recent DVI monitors support HDMI.

Re:USA (1)

SethJohnson (112166) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769269)

There is a huge backlog of 1080p devices they need to sell through before those 'manufacturers' want to bring these displays to market.

Seth

Consistency counts (4, Interesting)

JoeMerchant (803320) | about a year and a half ago | (#40768829)

I have, more than once, ordered something cheap that turned out to be good, then ordered a 2nd or 3rd copy, only to have the later ones (branded the same) be.... different.

Latest case in point: $90 7" tablets - first one: 4.5 hour battery life, second one: 2.0 hour battery life.

Re:Consistency counts (3, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769061)

I have, more than once, ordered something cheap that turned out to be good, then ordered a 2nd or 3rd copy, only to have the later ones (branded the same) be.... different.

Latest case in point: $90 7" tablets - first one: 4.5 hour battery life, second one: 2.0 hour battery life.

This is where you really win with Samsung, Apple and only a few other manufacturers - pushing new technology and acceptable failure rates of manufacturing are turning out a lot of garbage. Read reviews on Amazon for some CE stuff, wildly varying accounts by users "It was dead in 20 minutes", "Wonderful, would buy again!" "Best deal I've had in years!" "This thing worked at first, then started acting up so I sent it back" "BEWARE!!!" etc.

2560 x 1440 is sweet! (5, Interesting)

Nichotin (794369) | about a year and a half ago | (#40768843)

For "real" 27" displays that have 2560 x 1440, and not just full-HD, the experience is really good. I first regretted shelling out for a Dell UltraSharp U2711, but after connecting it and seeing the amount of screen real estate I eventually bought another one for my second computer. 2560x1440 eliminates my need for an extra monitor completely, and by using the Windows+(left arrow|right arrow) function in Windows, or Divvy on Mac, I can easily fill the browser on one side and the application I work with on the other.

Re:2560 x 1440 is sweet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40768911)

There's no such thing as 'enough', let alone 'too much' screen space. If I had another monitor to hook up to my computer I would. 3 would be close to enough. No matter what I'm doing, sometimes it's useful to have more screen space. Writing--YES! Coding--Absolutely! playing games--you'd better believe it. Data Analysis--Can't have enough space! Those 4 categories cover 99% of my screen time, so I rest my case.

Re:2560 x 1440 is sweet! (3, Interesting)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769057)

There's no such thing as 'enough', let alone 'too much' screen space.

I disagree. The optimal amount of screen space just fills my field of vision. Add any more, and spacial memory starts to work less well. I spent a while working with dual 30" monitors, and it was really easy to lose windows and have to spend some time finding them. A 27" display seems about right, maybe slightly small, but it's possible to put it where you don't need to turn your head to see everything.

Re:2560 x 1440 is sweet! (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769191)

There's no such thing as 'enough', let alone 'too much' screen space.

I disagree. The optimal amount of screen space just fills my field of vision. Add any more, and spacial memory starts to work less well. I spent a while working with dual 30" monitors, and it was really easy to lose windows and have to spend some time finding them. A 27" display seems about right, maybe slightly small, but it's possible to put it where you don't need to turn your head to see everything.

27 inch is a very good screen size. I think my eyes would recede into my skull if I had anything wider to look at. Great for side-by-side comparisons or doing some transposition of code, but don't need to see more than 2 windows at a time (in most cases).

Still plugging along with an ancient Samsung 172t on one computer, which I must say is an absolute rock of a monitor considering its age.

Re:2560 x 1440 is sweet! (0)

fnj (64210) | about a year and a half ago | (#40770377)

Do you also lose the glass windows in your room because you (gasp) have to turn your head to see them all?

Re:2560 x 1440 is sweet! (1)

KiloByte (825081) | about a year and a half ago | (#40770143)

It does suffer from a criminally bad screen proportion, though.

Buy two of these, glue them together vertically :p

Re:2560 x 1440 is sweet! (1)

flimflammer (956759) | about a year and a half ago | (#40770341)

Oh man, this is totally off topic but thanks for reminding me about the WIn+Left/Right/Up/Down. I used to have two displays and these were among my most used shortcuts but my second display died and I never replaced it. Finally got another one and have been getting annoyed with managing them.

Now that I'm re-armed with those shortcuts, my workflow feels so much more fluid again.

Buy local (1, Informative)

ruiner13 (527499) | about a year and a half ago | (#40768917)

Fry's Electronics had a 23" IPS Asus display for $270 (granted it is ONLY 1920 x 1080, but it has a fab 5ms GTG response rate). I got the last one they had in the store. I wasn't sure how much of an improvement it would be, but as someone who sits in front of a screen all day for my job, it sure is a nice improvement. The 3D support built-in with polarized glasses is a bonus.

So.. my only point is you don't necessarily need to go through some nefarious eBay listing if you look hard enough for deals, and support your local economy more than sending money through PayScam and the like...

Re:Buy local (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40768947)

Fry's isn't exactly "local" in the common sense of the word.

Re:Buy local (4, Insightful)

SpectreBlofeld (886224) | about a year and a half ago | (#40768949)

Only 1920x1080, and four inches smaller... it's a completely different product.

Re:Buy local (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40770223)

Yeah, and if one's after 1920x1080, you can get that as small as 21.5" -- why would one buy the big one that takes more desk space?

27" is the only size for 2560x1440, so it actually makes sense... of course, the T221 is better, but it costs twice as much used.

Re:Buy local (2)

greg1104 (461138) | about a year and a half ago | (#40768961)

At the end of the article there's a link to the AURIA EQ276W 27" LED Monitor [microcenter.com] , which is in stock at my local MicroCenter. It's 27" and 2560 x 1440 like the model reviewed and a bit more expensive, but it also has more inputs (VGA and HDMI).

Re:Buy local (2)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769047)

too bad that, just 2 days ago, microcenter in the bay area CLOSED.

still upset about that....

Re:Buy local (1)

serbanp (139486) | about a year and a half ago | (#40770321)

He, he, this bit of information reveals where you live (or work); yeah, it's a pity that we are now limited to the Fry's on Arques...

Sweet (1)

gman003 (1693318) | about a year and a half ago | (#40768975)

I'm actually looking for a good 1440p display. If the $400 ones have all the specs I need (at least two usable inputs, minimal ghosting and latency, color that isn't terrible, and at least 60Hz refresh rate), I'll probably grab two (I was already expecting to spend $900+; if I can get two for the price of one, so much the better).

PS: Does lack of HDCP support really hinder anything?

Re:Sweet (2)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769029)

for set-top boxes or dvd players or, for sure, bd players, it matters.

for pc based playing, it should *not* matter. that is, if you drm-stripped your media (anydvd, or similar).

btw, the lack of hdmi inputs is no big deal! for $10 or less, you can find 3 input (and more) hdmi switches with a single hdmi output. these days, the chipsets are pretty stable and interoperable (not true 5 or so years ago).

my favorite is the hdmi switch that has a cord/jack for an 'eye' IR remote sensor. the secret is that you can have a sender create IR streams to switch channels for you. regular old 38khz ir stuff. arduinos can handle this (hint hint). in this way, you can have a remotely (via pc) controlled hdmi switch.

Re:Sweet (1)

gman003 (1693318) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769187)

I do actually have a Blu-Ray drive in my laptop, and I will probably try to watch at least one movie on it (note to self: see if The Atomic Bomb Movie is still around). I would probably be fine just using the laptop's 1080p screen (do BD movies actually store it any higher than that?), but 1440p would be nice. So I'll probably put "HDCP support" at the bottom of the feature list (if two otherwise-identical monitors differ only in HDCP support, I'll grab that one), but otherwise, shouldn't be a problem.

Ripping to disk isn't a good option. I am perennially low on disk space, and ripping a 30GB disc is not something I'd like to do.

Number of inputs actually isn't as important to me as *types*. I only need two (one for my laptop, one for my primary desktop (the secondary can stay on the 1600x900 one)), but the type is more important. I need a DVI (desktop has only two DVI ports), and either an HDMI or DP (laptop only has HDMI, DP and VGA). Converters are acceptable if cheap.

Re:Sweet (1)

DarwinSurvivor (1752106) | about a year and a half ago | (#40770093)

My old laptop had a blu-ray drive. It even came with a blu-ray "showcase" blu-ray disk that was supposed to show the benefits of blu-ray over DVD or something. I say something because I tried for 20 minutes to get it to work and it never did. That night I installed Linux on it and never did get a blu-ray disk to play in it till the day it died.

Re:Sweet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769077)

I remember reading something about Windows Vista/7/8 requiring HDCP in order to allow playing certain content beyond SDTV resolution.

I don't use Windows myself, so I did not care enough to investigate further.

Re:Sweet (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769233)

I bought a simian two weeks ago, it has hdcp.

Re:Sweet (4, Funny)

msauve (701917) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769613)

"I bought a simian two weeks ago, it has hdcp."

Do you get a discount when buying a handicapped monkey?

such a good bargain? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40768999)

Uhm.... Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this really that good of a deal? I have a 1080p 42 inch Sharp flat screen LCD which I paid about 420 dollars for... with tax and fees and everything.

Re:such a good bargain? (2)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769059)

Yes. This has higher resolution, better DPI, better color reproduction, less input lag, etc. than your TV.

Scalar? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769583)

But my TV has a decent scalar and can handle all sorts of input resolutions. I have a hard time believing that these handle anything but 2560x1440 without ugliness. But I guess that that's sort of irrelevant when it comes to non-PC input as it doesn't support HDCP, but it might make for some poor gaming console use.

Re:such a good bargain? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769653)

Ok, you're wrong :)

Your panel is 1920×1080 (2.1 megapixels), this panel is 2560x1440 (3.7 megapixels)

Re:such a good bargain? (1)

uigrad_2000 (398500) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769905)

1080p = 1920x1080. That's 4937 pixels per dollar.

This monitor [ebay.com] is $310 for 2560x1440, and comes with free shipping from Korea. That's 11,891 pixels per dollar.

I'd say you were ripped off pretty badly.

He wasn't ripped off at all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40770245)

The guy bought exactly what he wanted, at a fair price, and he's completely happy with it.

Now how about making some that are... (4, Insightful)

neminem (561346) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769003)

16:10 instead of 16:9. [/obligatory post]

Re:Now how about making some that are... (4, Funny)

robthebloke (1308483) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769079)

or maybe just 8:5?

Re:Now how about making some that are... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769279)

9:5, what a way to make a living.

Re:Now how about making some that are... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769841)

or maybe just 8:5?

Is that you Pythagoras?

Re:Now how about making some that are... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769231)

I don't care if my 16:10 comes with extra pixels down the sides...

Re:Now how about making some that are... (1)

dell623 (2021586) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769697)

16:9 actually works well on 27" screens, as now you have enough room to open two windows side by side with a substantial amount of content. With a monitor that size, height isn't a big issue, and more width is actually useful! It's laptop screens with a measly 1366x768 screens that it really becomes an annoyance. Even on my 1080p 15.6" laptop screen, it's really not a big deal, and I think if I end up getting a 17" laptop, I would prefer a 16:9 screen for the same reason as thee 27" monitor.

I thought (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769027)

I thought Tesla licked this problem years ago.

IPS displays are slow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769053)

Make sure you get the right display for what you want. The unfortunate reality is that all LCD panels have different drawbacks.

TN panels are typically cheaper, have worse display angles, worse bleed, lower bit depths, and worse contrast.. But they are fast! I'm aware that some newer IPS displays are getting down there in the response time, but they don't even touch a good game-oriented TN display. Blur and ghosting everywhere. I picked up a samsung 120hz display. It came with 3D glasses but that's just a gimmick. Playing games at 120hz with zero ghosting is nothing short of amazing, and as a bonus eliminates the need for display lag inducing vsync in nearly all games I've played.

That said, it can't touch a good IPS display when it comes to color accuracy, viewing angle, color uniformity, contrast, light bleed, etc.

Just get the right monitor for the right job - Until OLED screens become reasonably priced. OLED wipes the floor with LCD in all of the mentioned metrics.

Re:IPS displays are slow (4, Insightful)

synapse7 (1075571) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769173)

These monitors (according TTFA) have no image processor and therefor have a fast response and are good for gaming.

I bought one 4 months ago! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769071)

Yep they are for real. Sold on Ebay mostly. You can read all about people's buying and ordering experiences at overclock.net:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1232496/crossover-27q-led-led-p-27m-led-2720mdp-gold-led-monitor-club/1800

My experience:
1) Bought a Crossover 27" IPS with swivel stand from S. Korea over ebay - $420 (Canadian) shipping included
2) Arrived in 3 days in Canada from Korea (If only Canada Post was that efficient)
3) Seller filled out customs form saying it was worth $150, I paid next to nothing in duty fees.
4) Monitor is freakin' awesome in display quality
5) Had 1 red stuck pixel that shows up in black background, but that you won't even notice unless you go hunting for it.
6) Monitor has no warranty, but at less than 50% of the cost, it's a risk you take. That said, seller did say he'd take it back if there was a serious defect/damage in shipping.
7) The IPS panel is the same one they put into Apple's 27" Cinema display, but didn't make the cut for some reason. I can't see anything wrong with it.
8) WARNING: There are practically no button controls on the monitor. Only brightness up/down and on/off. That's it!
9) The build quality of the 27" Crossover casing is superior to that of even Dell (read the forums above if you don't believe me). It is solid metal (not cheap plastic), and looks very stylish. That said, a word of warning, the monitor gets almost too hot in the back during hot summer days if I don't open the office window.

For $500-$700 discount, I accept no warranty, slight overheating on hot days, 1 stuck pixel, and only 2 control buttons.

Re:I bought one 4 months ago! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769273)

I bought the YAMAKASI Catleap for $350. It is indeed freakin awesome.

Re:I bought one 4 months ago! (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769311)

I would imagine #5 would be why it did not make the cut for #7. As much as Apple charges for those I would be returning one if it had a stuck pixel.

Re:I bought one 4 months ago! (1)

poity (465672) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769651)

3) Seller filled out customs form saying it was worth $150, I paid next to nothing in duty fees.

way to get them banned from eBay soon...

Re:I bought one 4 months ago! (2)

uigrad_2000 (398500) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769985)

I bought one on Ebay also. The seller asked what amount to declare on the customs form, since some countries charge duties on imports. I said to be honest and print the full amount, since there shouldn't be any duties importing into the U.S.

It seemed weird that he even asked this question. If he makes a living by selling these things to other countries, shouldn't he know whether the U.S. charges duties or not?

Unfortunately, my monitor did not work as well as this guy's. It was DOA, and I had to send it back for a refund. :(

Re:I bought one 4 months ago! (1)

dell623 (2021586) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769855)

I have no idea where you got the 500-700 discount figure from. Have you heard of the Dell U2711? In Australia it is routinely offered in Dell's frequent sales for under $630, and I imagine it costs about the same in Canada considering the dollars are about equal and usually stuff is more expensive in Australia.

For the $200 or two you save, you have to:

1) Pray that customs doesn't catch you and make you pay the real duty on it. Bonus warm inner glow of willingly and knowingly breaking the law.
2) There seems to be a dead pixel guarantee on these things, going by all the reviews I have seen on forums. A guarantee that you'll get dead pixels.
3) No controls and far fewer inputs and no inbuilt powered USB hub that you get with the Dell.
4) The Dell is sturdy and has an adjustable stand.
5) The Dell never gets that hot
6) With the Dell you get a three year next business day warranty

Too much praying involved for me, praying that customs don't catch you, praying that it doesn't show up with a million dead pixels, praying that it doesn't break down because there's no warranty.

Re:I bought one 4 months ago! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40770389)

I bought one because it does not have the anti glare layer. Removing the anti glare foil from the Dell while possible, will certainly void your warranty. Text looks very sharp and there are no dead pixels. The only inconvenient I had was that my Nvidia card did not officially support 2560x1440 so I had to fiddle with modelines in xconf.org.

Re:I bought one 4 months ago! (1)

daffy951 (546697) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769885)

"5) Had 1 red stuck pixel..."
"7) ... I can't see anything wrong with it."

?

Re:I bought one 4 months ago! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40770037)

I got a shimian achieva q270-lite for $302CAD incl delivery (but not duties) and I'm using it right this second. No stuck pixels. These things are so good and cheap that I'm considering getting two for home :o

No HDCP == Good. (4, Insightful)

ickleberry (864871) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769135)

They can take their huddlecup DRM and shove it up their arse, do not want precious silicon I'm paying good money wasted on features aiming to restrict me and make the MPAA more money.

I'm glad I found this thread because I might well be going to Korea in september so I'll bring one of these monitors back with me and not pay for shipping. Once again "fuck you" to HDCP and its supporters.

Get out of the basement (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769145)

"they've always been prohibitively expensive"

Prohibitively expensive to *who* exactly? Try talking to people who don't live in their mom's basement for once.

Now, if you're talking 50+" 4K displays, you may have a point - they're still running in the small-car range, but that's almost two orders of magnitude different from $700...

You'll be getting a monitor that has - (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769259)

100 dead/stuck pixels, and tons of backlight bleed.

120 Hz 2560x1440 IPS monitors (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769263)

There's a few of those 27" models that can be overclocked to have display refresh rates of 100 Hz+ which is great for smoothness. I just bought one at http://120hz.net/ [120hz.net] for $555, vs buying a regular one off ebay for $400. These cheap ones come with pixel defects that might be as high as 5-15, but they're less noticable due to the pixel density. The panel themselves might also be unevenly lit or have contamination, so you get what you pay for.

The caveat is that SLI setups cannot drive them, and single cards are not powerful enough to render modern games at 2560x1440 at a smooth 120 fps.

Not tha impressive (-1, Offtopic)

EGSonikku (519478) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769501)

Jeez, my 10" 3rd Gen iPad has close to the same resolution as that 27" Monitor (2048x1536, 266DPI)...

Really though, Computer displays have been lagging resolution wise, hopefully with the Retina displays on the new iPad and MacBook Pro other computer manufacturers will stop sticking us with low res LCDs on PC laptops/desktops.

I got one off ebay a month ago... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40769505)

and it is every bit of awesome for the $300 I spent

Re:I got one off ebay a month ago... (1)

zo2004 (724598) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769573)

Me too, was closer to 350, the only downside is that does not work as external display for a MacBook pro (Dual DVI issue), otherwise excellent value. Model Crossover 27Q, google will hit the ebay listing.

Re:I got one off ebay a month ago... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40770065)

You can get a display port to dual-link dvi adaptor for the macbook pro from monoprice for $69 vs apple's $99 (iirc)

Catleap (1)

bannerman (60282) | about a year and a half ago | (#40769879)

I picked up a Yamakasi Catleap a few weeks ago. No dead pixels that I can find. Looks incredible. The chassis appears to be made from cheap plastic but it's not an eyesore or anything. So much real estate!

Re:Catleap (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40770077)

Stop bragging about them, the price will go up ;)

Also a happy purchaser, free shipping, FAST delivery, best monitor I've ever used, no defects I can find.

#irc.trooltalk.com (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40770025)

become an unwanted de4d. It is a dead list of other you down. It was exemplified by ~280MB MPEG off of The mobo blew Want them there. that support of OpenBSD versus

From A Satisfied Customer (3, Informative)

BaldingByMicrosoft (585534) | about a year and a half ago | (#40770267)

I'll make this short and sweet.

I got mine here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230774446127&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160 [ebay.com]

It is the most amazing and beautiful screen I've ever owned, and I've actively been a computer geek for 34 years. It arrived in 2 days. There are no dead pixels. I've used it for hours daily since mid-April with no problems.

Have a nice day.

I got one after hearing about them on Slashdot! (1)

BertieBaggio (944287) | about a year and a half ago | (#40770311)

Back in April I read a recommendation on a thread on here about these monitors. I wish I could find the thread to give proper credit, but I didn't do such crazy tricks as emailing myself or bookmarking it. Firefox history search needs to work more like Gmail. Whoever it was, thanks, it's a really nice monitor! Good brightness, excellent colour reproduction, decent resolution. Reasonable size too :P The only complaint I have is a slight buzzing when displaying mostly-white content (eg this thread). It's practically inaudible though.

If anyone is interested, I bought through bigclothcraft [ebay.com.au] on eBay. No affiliation, just a good price and very helpful in their communications!

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