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Google Outs 3D Maps For iOS Ahead of Apple

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the me-first dept.

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hypnosec writes "Apple announced during WWDC 2012 that it is going to ditch Google maps and bring out its own under iOS 6. So, Google started working and in fact raced ahead of Apple in providing 3D maps for iOS. Through a blog post, Google announced that it has now made 3D imagery available on its Google Earth for iOS app. Users of iPhone 4S, iPad 2 or new iPad, while using Google Earth for iOS app, will feel that they are virtually flying over cities.The feature, as of now, works only for 12 regions. Cities for which the 3D imagery is provided are from US with an expectation of a city in Rome. The U.S. cities include: Boulder, Colo., Boston, Charlotte, N.C., Lawrence, Kan., Long Beach, Calif., Los Angeles, Portland, Ore., San Diego, Santa Cruz, Calif., Tampa, Fla., Tucson, Ariz., and San Francisco, plus its East Bay and Peninsula neighbors, notes the blog post."

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POWER TITS! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786327)

What?!?!

Why the fuck does which is which matter?

I swear to god you stupid motherfucker, if you your bullshit drivel even one more motherfucking time I am going to climb through this tube and smack the shit out of you. I'll kick your dog while I'm there, and piss on your flowers.

No one wants to read what you write. It is lame. You are lame by extension. Your whole family is very likely equally lame. Lick my sack.

In short, fuck you and the packets you rode in one.

You are a waste of carbon and water.

Yuo == fuckface

Re:POWER TITS! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787207)

It sounds like you are upset. Are you upset little friend?

Lawrence Kansas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786333)

Lawrence Kansas in 3D? Why bother. They'd probably do the rest of the towns in Kansas but then people might figure out the trick.

Re:Lawrence Kansas? (5, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786419)

Perhaps because its a pretty big college town and my guess is one of the developers studied at KU or a KU student provided the 3-D models of the town.

Re:Lawrence Kansas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787679)

Judging by the low quality, it doesn't look like the buildings were actually modeled, it looks more like they were 3D scanned.

Re:Lawrence Kansas? (1)

only_human (761334) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786437)

Oddly Kansas City, home to Google's high fiber regimen is merely 40 miles away. So they will be able to zoom virtually in high speed and then hop in a car to see the real thing in less than an hour.

Re:Lawrence Kansas? (5, Interesting)

mickmel (937421) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786601)

It's where Brian McClendon (he co-founded Keyhole, which became Google Earth) grew up. In fact, if you load up Google Earth on your home computer and simply zoom in ([Page Up] or [+]), you'll land in the Lawrence-based apartment complex where he was raised.

Re:Lawrence Kansas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787075)

I landed on this shack. I wonder what the significance of that is?

http://goo.gl/maps/QONp [goo.gl]

Re:Lawrence Kansas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787429)

Isn't that where Sam and Dean used to live?

Re:Lawrence Kansas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787499)

In fact, if you load up Google Earth on your home computer

Sadly not possible because Google Earth is not available on Linux.

Thanks, Google. Hope those million Linux servers you have are proving useful.

All Really Good - its about the Freshness (0, Troll)

RapidEye (322253) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786339)

Meh - at this point, all of them are really good, for me it is who has the freshest data.
I hate to admit it, but where I live, Bing Maps actually has the newest satellite/overhead views.
  Good Job Dude!

Re:All Really Good - its about the Freshness (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786447)

RapidEye posts his findings, along with facts to support his conclusion, and yet he still gets modded down.

Good job google shills, er, mods!

Re:All Really Good - its about the Freshness (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786549)

But he wasn't modded down?

Re:All Really Good - its about the Freshness (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786591)

Rapideye gets pissed he was modded down and then poses as an AC to complain about it.
Are you involved with any political campaigns by chance?

Re:All Really Good - its about the Freshness (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786641)

Rapideye, at least change your characteristic style with the commas and punctuation if you want to act like someone else.

Re:All Really Good - its about the Freshness (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786755)

Here is what I don't understand.......go too maps.google.com and go to street view somewhere in the US. Looks ok, some streets look horrible. Now go up to just about anywhere in Canada and do street view. Why is Canada pics so much higher quality? Is a US law blocking HD photos of street view or something or what is up with that?

Re:All Really Good - its about the Freshness (4, Insightful)

lostfayth (1184371) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786873)

It could simply be that the images for Canada are newer. Google tends to start projects in the US first and then expand them later - and later comes better cameras, faster and denser storage, and so on.

Re:All Really Good - its about the Freshness (2)

Tough Love (215404) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787251)

I hate to admit it, but where I live, Bing Maps actually has the newest satellite/overhead views.

Because Microsoft was last to build its database?

Good news for apple users! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786343)

Theres now a map!

Now if you have two hands... And a flashlight. You apple people should be all set!

Do I need a geography lesson that bad? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786353)

How many cities does Rome have???

Re:Do I need a geography lesson that bad? (4, Informative)

spauldo (118058) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786403)

It contains itself, as well as Vatacan City, so 2?

Google trying to save face, except it won't work (0, Troll)

mjuarez (12463) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786359)

This just reeks of desperation, just their way of trying to save face right before Apple kicks them off from the iPhone main screen. It doesn't matter, 99% of users won't even know about this app, they'll just go with Apple's Maps. Even if Google decides somehow magically to introduce turn by turn directions, it still won't matter. Google shot itself in the gut, and they know it. They could have at least kept feature parity with Android, but the fact that iOS Maps app was neglected for years only made Apple react more strongly. Now, Apple controls every main app on iOS (browser, music, maps, messaging). They control their destiny.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (5, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786383)

They control their destiny.

Apple dictates what apps can and can't be installed on your phone. If you're an iOS user, they control yours.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786633)

A fact i am very happy with

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786651)

A fact i am very happy with

Because you are happy to leave your security up to someone else?

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786961)

No, because he very stupid.

At least he is getting some security (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787069)

With Android, your only choise is to download a ROM built from a questionable website maintained by hackers. An image built with vanilla quality drivers and ZERO security.

Re:At least he is getting some security (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787187)

And as we know kids, no security is MAX FREEDOM!

WANG OUT TIME!

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787181)

You've reviewed every line of code in the OS and the apps you run?

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (5, Insightful)

ThatsMyNick (2004126) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786769)

Wow, you were so happy with Apple not providing you with turn-by-turn navigation? And now with iOS 6, you suddenly are really happy that you get turn-by-turn navigation. Talk about fanbois.
 
And yes, it was Apple that did not provide you turn-by-turn navigation. Apple licensed Google Maps data, and build their own app to provide Google Maps services, and for some reason did not think navigation was important enough (until now of course).

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786887)

And yes, it was Apple that did not provide you turn-by-turn navigation.

Google did not allow Apple's maps to include turn-by-turn navigation, their license forbade it.

That's fair enough — Google dictates the terms of use for their data. But Apple had to build their own system to get around this restriction (or license from elsewhere).

Wrong, Google forbade turn-by-turn (0)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787601)

Apple was trying to work out a deal with Google that would allow turn-by-turn directions atop Google Map Data, but Google wanted a pile of money or some other terms Apple could not bear.

Instead they are using map data from a more open source than Google. You Android people talk about Google being so open, but just try to get a pinch of the data the Google Dwarfs keeps locked in the mountain hall.

The very proof of this is the fact that the very moment they do not have to rely on Google for map data they provide turn by turn directions and let other applications do so as well. You have no proof Apple could have provided turn by turn directions at any time, and in fact the Google license Apple was publicly under explicitly forbade it.

Meanwhile Apple is now running on OpenStreetMap data (combined with other sources).

Like your freedom? You'd be wise to choose Apple...

Re:Wrong, Google forbade turn-by-turn (2)

ThatsMyNick (2004126) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787669)

Actually there was power play between Google and Apple. Google ultimately wanted Apple to allow their own app, which Apple did not want too. And Apple wanted Google to license everything they had on Google Maps, which they refused and agreed only to give a taste of Google Maps.
 
Google held usability ransom, to gain more control into iPhone, and Apple sacrificed usability to retain control. Both are equally evil in this case.
 
And about OSM, I could give a shit about who uses OSM, unless they contribute to it. I dont see Apple contribute to OSM so far, so I dont give shit that Apple uses OSM. May be slightly disgusted, but nothing more.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

PNutts (199112) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787173)

Apple dictates what apps can and can't be installed on your phone, but they don't control it. Jailbreak to install whatever you want and they've never removed an installed app from a device. They do control what's in the App Store but that isn't part of the discussion.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

ghn (2469034) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786435)

You do realize I hope that it is an unfair game? Apple can kick google and its apps out of its fenced garden any time it wants.

Like the spoiled kid who does not like to loose.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786543)

A spoiled kid that could never make his father happy, was left too much power and now will bully everyone on the playground to try and get what it wants.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0, Troll)

rockout (1039072) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786931)

Loose?? Seriously??

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

PNutts (199112) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787193)

When I was young I didn't like too loose. Now I take what I can get.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787245)

Surprised by the spelling "loose"? You must be new here. :)

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786477)

umm...Apple wrote and has always controlled the iOS Maps app. They just bought the data from Google.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786525)

You do know that Apple is the author of the IOS maps app? They just use google data. If Apple wanted to make a maps app similar to the one on android that uses vector graphics and so on, they could have, but they didn't. Blame them. Google couldn't have written an improved maps app, because it would have been rejected as being too similar to the IOS app. Google was in a no win situation.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (4, Informative)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786827)

If Apple wanted to make a maps app similar to the one on android that uses vector graphics and so on, they could have, but they didn't.

In Apple's defense, from Google Maps' Terms of Use [google.com]:

2. Restrictions on Use. Unless you have received prior written authorization from Google (or, as applicable, from the provider of particular Content), you must not: [...]
(f) use the Service or Content with any products, systems, or applications for or in connection with (i) real time navigation or route guidance, including but not limited to turn-by-turn route guidance that is synchronized to the position of a user's sensor-enabled device

So the question is, did Apple try to get prior written authorization and Google declined their request? Or did they just say, "We'll get our map data from somewhere else because we don't like Google anymore."

In Google's defense, they license some of their data from elsewhere and they may be restricted as to what they can allow others to do. For example, looking at Japan [google.com], down in the lower right of the screen we see "Map Data © 2012 Google, ZENRIN" Zenrin [zenrin.co.jp] is a company that Google uses, I assume, for some Japanese map data. They can use the data for their purposes, but they cannot sublicense that data for other purposes. If Apple wanted to use that data the same way as Google via Google's Maps API, they'd have to also license the data from Zenrin.

A quick jaunt around the world will show you that Google has licensed map data from lots of different companies: GeoBasis, TeleAtlas, AfriGIS, MapLink, Mapcity, Inav/Geosistemas, INEGI, and I'm sure some others I have missed. Apple could run around and try to sign similar licenses with all those companies to use Google's map data, or they could just find someone else.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786905)

Apple tried to extend iOS Maps functionality to include turn-by-turn, but were not able to agree on licensing terms with Google. I believe Google preferred to retain that feature as a competitive advantage in Android (and that's entirely fair — Google *do* own the data). This is documented in a recent WSJ article discussing the Apple/Google Maps deal.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787077)

I believe Google preferred to retain that feature as a competitive advantage [...]

It fits in nicely with the whole "Google versus Apple" battle, but I don't see it. Why would Google not want iOS to use Google maps? They want everybody to use Google maps. I can't believe that Google would do that.

That said, I could certainly believe that Google went around and tried to renegotiate and basically got told, "Yeah, sure, for (giant sum of money)," which they then tried to pass on to Apple. Apple said, "We can find someone to do it cheaper--your loss."

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (2)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787627)

Google has been dragging their feet at adding iOS apps for their own services. For example, there's still no iOS GTalk app, not even with chat - forget about voice/video. GMail app took, what, five years? and it's still pretty crappy at that. Google+ app still had no iPad version last I checked.

So, no. They don't seem to be all that eager to have their services run on iOS, at least as apps. I guess that's because they prefer you to use their web apps when possible, but they are decidedly second-rate citizens on iOS, so in practice we have what we have.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787657)

Nope, Google wanted greater ownership of the app and Apple didn't want to rely on a competitor. As another poster mentioned, making a maps app was prohibited by the AppStore TOS until recently.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787561)

Nope, Apple could not get terms they wanted for things like vector maps, or more importantly to allow turn by turn directions.

Now that Apple is free of the Google Mapping Data Tyrant, any app that wishes can create and display turn-by-turn directions - and in fact there's a specific mapping app store that encourages this.

Google is not nearly so free on Android. They want you using Google Maps always.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (2, Insightful)

Nemyst (1383049) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786571)

As soon as Apple puts its own Maps app up, I wouldn't be surprised to see "duplicate functionality" apps get axed from the store.

You know, the usual Apple MO.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786619)

I doubt this. There are already many maps apps that duplicate the current maps app. They won't boot waze, garmin, tom-tom apps.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786645)

Did that actually happen, or are you just asserting it?

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

Tough Love (215404) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787293)

As soon as Apple puts its own Maps app up, I wouldn't be surprised to see "duplicate functionality" apps get axed from the store.

You know, the usual Apple MO.

Wasn't that basically the Microsoft MO, except instead of banning competitors they would cut of their air supply and bankrupt them?

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (3, Informative)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786573)

They could have at least kept feature parity with Android, but the fact that iOS Maps app was neglected for years only made Apple react more strongly.

As I understand it the iOS Maps app was neglected by Apple, not Google.

It seems likely that Apple always intended to replace the backend service with their own and one might argue that "neglecting" the app was a good move in that regard. By keeping their users (which includes me) on technology that is probably 5+ years old it gives them a chance of replacing it without users complaining too much about feature regression.

Google's move hardly "reeks of desperation". Since when has Google done anything other than try and offer the best experience they can on any device?

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (2, Interesting)

Swampash (1131503) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786675)

"Since when has Google done anything other than try and offer the best experience they can on any device?"

That's a joke, right?

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (3, Informative)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786797)

That's a joke, right?

No, Google just care about eyeballs and will work to get them.
They will write Exchange plugins to work with Gmail.
They will buy Exchange related technology to get Gmail to work 'properly' with iOS mail.
They will do what it takes to get a user, whatever platform the user may be on (for reasonably popular platforms of course).

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786599)

Google was able to provide turn-by-turn directions for years (and did for Android). Rumor has it that Apple wouldn't let them release it for iOS even though Google offered to do it for free. Speculation at the time was that Apple didn't want maps to be too good so that when Apple released its own maps later it'd seem like an upgrade. That seems to be exactly how it played out.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0, Flamebait)

superwiz (655733) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786603)

Haven't heard, have you? Samsung doubled the number of units they sold. This is despite injunctions and crap. Apple did not double the number of units they sold and Apple itself reduced estimates for its next quarter (ie, they are not releasing iPhone 5 anytime soon). Laughing at the Apple fanbois is going to be much more fun this time around... there is more of them, but they are just as fanatical and foaming at the mouth as they were 15 years ago. It's over. This time Steve is gone. There is no magic rescue by a cult figure. Last one out, turn off the lights.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786733)

Who cares?

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786937)

Apple itself reduced estimates for its next quarter (ie, they are not releasing iPhone 5 anytime soon)

(Whiny Fanboi Voice) Yeah, but, but, when Apple releases the iPhone 5, they'll bury Samsung! And if they don't, it'll only be because they just can't make them fast enough to keep up with demand! You'll see!

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

Tough Love (215404) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787315)

Apple itself reduced estimates for its next quarter (ie, they are not releasing iPhone 5 anytime soon)

(Whiny Fanboi Voice) Yeah, but, but, when Apple releases the iPhone 5, they'll bury Samsung! And if they don't, it'll only be because they just can't make them fast enough to keep up with demand! You'll see!

Well for me, the iPhone 5 roll out is the mostly breathlessly anticipated Apple offering ever, because I'm looking forward to the epic fail. And Apple spinmods, before you reach for that button, know that I do not hate Apple. Per se. I hate evil.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786615)

trying to save face right before Apple kicks them off from the iPhone main screen

If Microsoft did something like what Apple is doing, they would be rightly RAKED OVER THE COALS and sued till the fucking cows come home, but because this is coming from Apple, the darling of slashdot, the darling of the industry and popular media they get a pass. Fucking sickening.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786635)

Only problem is the Apple maps program is horrible (as of iOS6 beta 3).
1. Apple's points of interest database is lacking.
2. The 3-d functionality is worthless, it's hideous and slow.
3. No street view.
4. Turn by turn looks pretty but functionality is horrible. The perspective of the road is to angled and the large "turn sign" covers 30% of screen. You can't see the next turn until you are about 1/10 mile from it. It's like they designed turn-by-turn inside a studio without actually testing it on the road.
5. They are disabling turn x turn for pre-iPhone 4s

Unless there are large and quick improvements, there will be many unhappy customers when iOS 6 is released. It will feel like a downgrade. It will improve over time, but they have a lot of catching up to do.

The biggest positive for iPhone users: google might finally release it's own fully functional iOS map apps.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786665)

Sincerely, I've been reading slashdot and blogs indicating how hard it has been for Google to get apps in the iOS ecosystem. Now, they're trying even harder to get a better experience to Apple users, just to hold their user base. But clearly, Apple can ditch them anytime.

If something, Google could just pull all their apps from the Apple store, and let Apple work their magic. Apple insists they don't need Google, so why would Google wait for them to be dropped.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (2)

Tough Love (215404) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787333)

Apple insists they don't need Google, so why would Google wait for them to be dropped.

If Google pulls their iPhone apps it could result in an antitrust action against Google. This way, any antitrust action would be against Apple.

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (2)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786735)

Yes, shot themselves in the gut. Everyone knows once google loses the war for dominance in 3D maps on iOS, it's only a matter of hours before they have to declare bankrupcy.

Out of curiosity, you haven't posted since 2008, you come back just to shill/troll for apple?

Re:Google trying to save face, except it won't wor (1)

Tough Love (215404) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787265)

just their way of trying to save face right before Apple kicks them off from the iPhone main screen

I can see it now: instead of "Android is better because it has Flash" it will be "Android is better because it has Google".

Not quite... (1)

ZZeta (743322) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786367)

...and San Francisco, plus its East Bay and Peninsula neighbors...

Not to be nitpicky, but I happen to live in Berkeley (clearly east bay neighbor) and after trying the app on my iPhone I can tell you there's no 3D here.

City in Rome? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786399)

Please excuse my ignorance, but I thought Rome *was* a city in Italy... Maybe they mean suburb? Or are Europe's cities so old that they have cities within cities?

Re:City in Rome? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786503)

its divided up into 19 municipalities, just like many other large cities, and then there is Vatican City

Re:City in Rome? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786623)

"Please excuse my ignorance, but I thought Rome *was* a city in Italy... Maybe they mean suburb? Or are Europe's cities so old that they have cities within cities?"

Sure, not 2, but 3.

1. Vecchia Roma (that's the one restaurants are named after)
2. Roma
3. Vatican

Fanboy Article? (4, Interesting)

Belial6 (794905) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786415)

This article reeks of fanboyism. Why would we think that Google didn't start working on 3D maps until Apple announced it? Why isn't this pointing out that Apple is crapping on their customers by trying to sell them a new phone just to run software that should run just fine on the iPhone 1? And why would they think that Google only now found out about Apple's mapping plans? Apple said they were working on maps when we found out that Apple tracks users. They said that the reason they would continue to track users was to collect data for creating mapping software.

Re:Fanboy Article? (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786507)

Speaking of fanboyisn, you just talked about apple tracking users and didn't mention how google is far worse in that regard, even lobbying congress to protect their right to do it.

Re:Fanboy Article? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786561)

That was mentioned as a frame of time reference. He said we found out about 3d maps at the same time as tracking

Re:Fanboy Article? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786739)

So ICS will install on all Android phones released since 07/08ish??

Devil's Advocate (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787533)

Wouldn't the current state of Google's 3D work be about right for someone who started working out it about the same time Apple acquired C3?

Frankly I don't know why there is this level of fuss about 3D maps. The 3D maps are cool, but they are a nice add-on but traditional maps serve people far better day to day... for Apple they are more vital as they make for a somewhat viable replacement for Street View. But Google already has street view (and now that Street View backpack to go where many have gone before, but Googlgize it). So the 3D mapping is really more extraneous for Google.

"Outs" ? Are the maps gay or what ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786487)

The word most educated English speaking people would use is not "out".

The word is "introduce".

Do try to improve your English when you aren't sucking cock, you dickeating
fucktards.

oh just admit it (0, Flamebait)

superwiz (655733) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786557)

Apple will always be a flash in a pan. They'll always come up with a concept and sulk when someone else thinks of how to do it better. It's not because of some anti-birth-right where they can't do it better just because they are "Apple." It's because they think they can do it all. And when you want to do the software, the hardware, the marketing, the sales, you have to get everything to align just right... all the schedules if nothing else. And when you do it and it works, it's great. But it happens much less often than when you have a software company which allows a bunch of hardware vendors to use the software and a bunch of retailers/providers to sell the hardware. If you get to concentrate, you get to develop core strengths. When you want to control the full retail-service-hardware-software stack, you are as weak as the weakest link. And you are guaranteed to eventually lose to those who allow for a few players to duke it out at each level of their stack. This is why they lost to PC. And this is why they lost (fata complete at this point) to Google. This is pretty much like MS developing MS Office for Apple back in the day. They did it mostly because they could.

Re:oh just admit it (1)

Desler (1608317) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786597)

Except that many of the Android phone makers are pretty fucking terrible at making decent hardware or even providing decent versions of Android as well without their OEM crapware thrown on top. So that sort of blows your entire point.

Re:oh just admit it (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786809)

Not really, it's just the market settling. In fact, it bolsters his point Macapple forged ahead in the PC line as well, and very soon thereafter they were recognized as over-priced over-hyped trinkets of electronic 'hipness'.

In '02 we had two camps of artists, one camp that produced using the Mac platform, and the other using a Linux platform. Both groups were tasked with stuff like CD covers, Magazine covers, DVD covers, wireframe modelling, yada yada. The Linux guys were three times as productive as the Mac guys... so the Mac guys were bundled and sold to a competitor...

Re:oh just admit it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786859)

By "fata complete" you probably mean "fait accompli".

not gonna cry about it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786763)

Who cares! They've witheld turn-by-turn navigation from iOS for years, so as far as I am concerned, Apple is right in moving on to something else.

expectation of a city in Rome (2)

frovingslosh (582462) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786789)

Just how many cities does Google think are in Rome? By my count I have a pretty good guess what the city in Rome might be.

Re:expectation of a city in Rome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786883)

Just how many cities does Google think are in Rome? By my count I have a pretty good guess what the city in Rome might be.

Vatican City?

Re:expectation of a city in Rome (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40786933)

Vatican City is inside Rome, so I guess there are 2 to choose from.

Not on iPhone 4? (2)

Frogking (126462) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786795)

I guess now I have a reason to buy a newer iPhone if this only works on the 4S and not the 4 I have. Thanks, Google!

Apple needs more time. (1)

formfeed (703859) | about a year and a half ago | (#40786849)

3d representations for whole cities -- ever thought how many corners there are that need to be rounded?

Of course Apple needs more time. But in the end, your city will look much better.

Kansas? (1)

PPH (736903) | about a year and a half ago | (#40787037)

Isn't Kansas flat?

Re:Kansas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787237)

Isn't Kansas flat?

Oddly, no it isn't. There are no mountains but there are plenty of large rolling hills which you definitely wouldn't call flat. There are plenty of other states which are far more flat than Kansas.

Sergei will come to the rescue (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787223)

First Google will produce the 3D map app, then sue the living shit out of Apple for just THINKING about a 3D map app. Force Apple to take their own app of their app store, then take their own map app of the app store leaving every Apple user with no choice but to purchase a white Tom-Tom which you can only use if you hold it right. Then Sergei will parachute into Infinity Drive after spending 3 weeks eating nothing but bean burritos for breakfast, lunch and dinner and take a massive steamy shit in the foyer.

Fuck you Apple, fuck you Apple users.

While writing this I came up with a great business idea. Get a car and mount a giant hand on top flipping the bird. People pay you to drive and park the car in front of their enemies house for 24 hours.

Recursive city (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#40787277)

a city in Rome?

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