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Windows 8 Is Ready

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the stick-a-fork-in-it dept.

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New submitter drinkydoh writes "In an announcement today, Microsoft has finally said that Windows 8 is now complete. Microsoft has begun delivering RTM versions to manufacturers and the general availability of the tablets and computers using Windows 8 will be on October 26th. 'Microsoft's final milestone concludes almost two years of development for its new Metro-inspired Windows 8 software and marks the beginning of the release phase. Microsoft says MSDN and TechNet customers will be able to download it from August 15th. Windows Store will go live on August 15th. Developers will be able to access the final tools and submission process for Metro style apps at the Windows Dev Center later this month.'"

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558 comments

Windows 8 seems like a solid product (-1, Flamebait)

h910 (2698573) | about 2 years ago | (#40845287)

I was worried about the whole Metro thing first, but after getting used to it and actually learning the new style I can clearly see the advantages. On top of that this allows nice Windows market place and apps that also work on tablets. Remember that you don't need to use a tablet, but if you do, all your Windows software is there.

Sure, it might take some used to. But just like moving from Windows to OS X or old Office to new Ribbon style Office, you will get used to it and then you see the better sides of things.

Personally I think I will get a new computer towards the winter and get Win8 along with it. GZ Microsoft for the release of the year!

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (5, Informative)

jmorris42 (1458) | about 2 years ago | (#40845361)

Says the account with exactly three posts, all posted today and all praising Windows 8.

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (3, Insightful)

Moheeheeko (1682914) | about 2 years ago | (#40845475)

and posted at the exact same time as the artice, without the asterisk of "I saw this before you"

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (1)

jmorris42 (1458) | about 2 years ago | (#40845743)

Yea, good catch on that. I am a sub so I take the Mysterious Future for granted, which is how I got the second post and even had time to put a little effort into it. But how exactly did this guy get first? Is Slashdot offering select people the ability to post without the subscriber indicator? I only get the option to post anonymous, in the past there was an option to post without taking the karma bonus but apparently it vanished at some point and I didn't notice.

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (4, Interesting)

BenLeeImp (1347831) | about 2 years ago | (#40845917)

You use a subscriber account to read the articles early, but use a different account to post shill. Just keep mashing F5 on the main page with your text ready in notepad. That way you avoid the karma hit and recognition as a shill poster. Just make a new one when it outlives its usefulness.

I'm not sure how it can be fixed off the top of my head. Maybe prevent new accounts from getting top post until they've made X other posts?

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#40845513)

Don't forget his friend "h111", praising Windows phone (and iPhone) and giving backhanded compliments to Android.

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (2, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | about 2 years ago | (#40845539)

Ok...
I also like Windows 8 too. I am not sure why this is at -1. I guess moderators are Rabid Windows Haters today.

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845735)

Ok...
I also like Windows 8 too. I am not sure why this is at -1. I guess moderators are Rabid Windows Haters today.

U#: 103300 Been here a while. Shouldn't you be a rabid Linux/FOSS/GNU/GPL and hate everything MS an sorta like Apple?

You went to the Darkside!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Steve Balmer: "jellomizer, I AM you father!"

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (5, Informative)

konaya (2617279) | about 2 years ago | (#40845745)

It's not Windows hatred per se, although that certainly is a healthy attitude. It's just that everytime a Microsoft-related article pops up, a brand new user starts blindly praising whatever Microsoft's been doing this time around. It's getting old, Microsoft.

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (4, Interesting)

nukenerd (172703) | about 2 years ago | (#40845801)

It is downvoted because his post is almost certainly a plant by the /. management to wind us up and get us going. First post for a longish piece of writing, with good grammar and spelling, by someone with only three posts ever to his account? I don't believe it.

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (1)

BenLeeImp (1347831) | about 2 years ago | (#40845849)

Hmm ... I've never heard that angle before. Intriguing ... so that's what the editors do all day.

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (2)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 2 years ago | (#40845923)

That's an interesting observation. That makes more sense than paid MS astroturfers.

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (4, Funny)

zlives (2009072) | about 2 years ago | (#40845471)

at first i was like.. shill? but then i was like... douche?

Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product (5, Funny)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 2 years ago | (#40845777)

And then Freddie Mercury came on and I was like. . .scaramouche?

Re:Windows 8 needs shills because it sucks (1)

Jeng (926980) | about 2 years ago | (#40845511)

I mean really, just look at the posting history of whom I am replying to.

Poor poor Microsoft employees! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845605)

Wow, have things gotten that bad at MS [businessinsider.com] that they're making you guys post this stuff to keep your jobs?

We all should take pity on the Microsofties.

As a protest against the treatment of Microsoft employees and in the spirit of PETA's ads, I will use Linux exclusively while stark naked.

And I will NOT use Windows or any other Microsoft product until the they treat the Softies better!

Let the bitching begin.... (5, Insightful)

jmorris42 (1458) | about 2 years ago | (#40845309)

Microsoft seems to repeat mistakes don't they? DOS 4.0, Bob, ME, Vista; the public reaction to all should have been predictable enough that somebody in a corporation their size should have been able to see it coming and delay or abort the release of those turds. But no, they dropped em all and took the abuse and ridicule while apparently learning nothing. Now comes Windows 8.

Maybe they will have time to get Windows 9 right, maybe not. That is what has changed, before they were an unstoppable monopoly and now? We shall see. They have offended their OEM partners with the Surface tablet, the Developers, Developers, Developers! with the knifing of Silverlight and apparently the beginning of the end for both Win32 and .NET and I'm not convinced customers are going to be all that happy with what is about to be rammed down their thoat. All at a time when their monopoly is threatened like never before. The desktop PC itself is being questioned for most users, Office is threatened by Cloud apps and even the long standing stranglehold of Blackberry + Exchange is not looking very healthy about now.

Netcraft hasn't confirmed it yet but Microsoft just might be dying. And after hating on them for decades I'm not entirely sure I'm going to applaud when they exit the stage. The PC is likely to go with them, by which I mean the open platform anyone can write programs for and create add on hardware, etc. The post Microsoft future looks like a grim world of sealed media consumption devices for most and a return to 'workstations' for the select who can afford machines costing as much as a car.

Few will question anymore that Apple is a dark force of DRM and lockin. And the release of the Nexus 7 shows Google to be fast getting in touch with their Evil side. The only major difference (other than a model years' worth of hardware refresh) between it and the equally sealed up Amazon Fire is which app/media ecosystem it is bundled to.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (5, Funny)

skaag (206358) | about 2 years ago | (#40845369)

PC era gone? but wait... Steam is coming to Linux! We're saved!

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (5, Interesting)

HerculesMO (693085) | about 2 years ago | (#40845787)

Too bad the only games that will follow onto the Linux steam platform are games you've already beaten 5 or 6 years ago on the PC.

Best of luck getting Valve to convince other dev studios to port games to Linux at a huge expense, when the audience simply isn't there. Linux on the desktop is dead. It's linux on the "device" that has a chance. I know why Valve is pushing towards Linux because the Windows 8 App store will eat their lunch, but realistically nothing is going to change. Windows 8 has gotten more idiot proof than usual, and that's what draws in people that don't already somehow have a PC.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (0, Troll)

i_ate_god (899684) | about 2 years ago | (#40845437)

Microsoft is killing Silverlight because it was a stupid idea to begin with. Even then Flash was declining and HTML5 was the obvious winner.

But killing off .net?! Where do you get that from?

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (-1, Flamebait)

jmorris42 (1458) | about 2 years ago | (#40845545)

> But killing off .net?! Where do you get that from?

Take another look at Metro. Especially at what they permit on ARM. Microsoft gets to release native code but everyone else must use the MIcrosoft version of HTML5. Does that sound like a winning tactic to you? Doesn't to me either and when the developers raise a loud enough stink that they simply can't port real applications to that Microsoft is going to have to make a decision. Back down and allow at least some way for select 3rd party applications to access a more usable ABI or just go with the closed platform and abandon what has to date been the very successful strategy of deoending on a vibrant 3rd party software sector.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (4, Informative)

DAldredge (2353) | about 2 years ago | (#40845739)

See I know you know better then what you are saying so it makes me wonder why you are deliberately spreading information that is wrong and so easily verifiable as not correct. http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/TOOL-531T [msdn.com] "And you have your choice of world-class development tools and languages. JavaScript, C#, VB, C++, C, HTML, CSS, XAML, all for X86-64 and ARM." "This is an extremely important point: If you go and build your Metro style app in JavaScript and HTML, in C# or in XAML, that app will just run when there's ARM hardware available. So, you donâ(TM)t have to worry about that. Just write your application in HTML5, JavaScript and C# and XAML and your application runs across all the hardware that Windows 8 supports." http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/exec/ssinofsky/2011/09-13BUILD.aspx [microsoft.com]

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (5, Interesting)

gbjbaanb (229885) | about 2 years ago | (#40845587)

I don't think they're killing it off, but it the "new VB". MS has rediscovered native code [alejandrosegovia.net] , so WinRT is entirely unmanaged, the .NET libs have been reworked to simply pass-through to the WinRT functionality and some minor parts removed.

All native and cloud development is moving towards C++ again, so .NET is left as a desktop development environment. Given the performance fixes are not making it back into the desktop versions of the old libs and I doubt any additional features will be ported there (except security), and that the concept is that your Metro code for the PC can also run on a table or a phone, and the native push for those environments, I think you can see how .NET development is now a 'you can, but...' partner, not the primary focus for development.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (4, Informative)

man_of_mr_e (217855) | about 2 years ago | (#40845879)

The .NET libs have always passed through to the native code, At some point native code must be called in order to function.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845935)

Apple has ObjectiveC and clean API refreshes, Microsoft has legacy and unclean APIs.

Yet Microsoft are always shocked when Apple bring out something that just works that Microsoft is working on and won't be ready for another 5 years... ehm Vista, DirectX UI, .Net... Apple Objective-C, Coca etc.

Yet nobody at Microsoft want's to clean house, what do they do? Wrap Win32 into MFC, then WinForms then WFC etc... Now back to DirectUI COM API's.

MSFT Lost the plot 10 years ago, I worked there for a decade... Even today my MSFT friends are so much of fanboi they are BLIND and automatically blinker themselves to constructive criticism about anything against MSFT... Just look at the fucking laughingstock the mobile team is .. why? BALMER. A FUCKING MORON. A rich one but still a bitter, clueless, MORON.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845597)

From the web community I work in, HTML5 is reviled as being a bureaucratic mess. Many people end up porting back to Flash for performance reasons. I think the execution of HTML5 was botched and something "else" will need to come along.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845729)

With XP still holding on marketshare and the corps locking in to IE 8 for the next 10 years HTML 5 is a dead start in all but phones. Silverlight and flash are going nowhere, unless Windows 8 really takes off and forces the corps and cheapskates to get with the times but we all know that is not going to happen.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845525)

post ms future is fine... considering that XP (10+) yr old os is just now losing market... win7 can sustain market for the near future. so lets say MS goes out and we are left with win7 for the next 10-15 years... is there a problem with this?

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845843)

It's taking a long time for Win7 to overtake XP, which suggests that average users might not switch to Win7 until they really, really don't have a choice anymore. That was the case for me, since the interface is not friendly for a true multitasker. I had to give up software and hardware that was no longer supported.

Some functionality is no longer available, like searching inside files on shared network drives (unless every PC in the enterprise indexes the drives, which is not practical).

I also found out after the switch, it's as reliable as Windows ME. Despite having a pretty good amount of memory in my new PCs, things stop working after a while, when memory is getting closer to the max, even while, according to TaskManager, there is still memory left. Initially we thought it was just caused by my high demands, but it now turns out that more and more people are experiencing similar issues, and we had to switch back to an old XP machine to get some of the processing done, because adding memory didn't solve it.

It has been a very frustrating move. People that say it's just being afraid of change either don't use their computer to the max, or are blinded by the Apple-like bling we didn't want in the first place. While I'm generally an early adopter, this just doesn't work as well as XP, from the user perspective. And with Win8 it seems to get even worse, with even more hidden stuff.

No, Win7"ME" has not been a success. Looking at the super-slow adoption, it looks like we might not be the only ones. Microsoft should think very hard. They should give their users a choice and provide an updated version of XP, that is secure, but provides the stability, simplicity and straight forward approach XP had. It might require some internal rework, but XP SP2 was big too, and it worked.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845549)

Maybe they will have time to get Windows 9 right, maybe not.

They definitely will. Windows has become the Star Trek movie OS.

ME - bad
XP - good
Vista - bad
7 - good
8 - bad

Windows 9 will definitely be good.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (4, Insightful)

jmorris42 (1458) | about 2 years ago | (#40845873)

Before they had a monopoly. OEMs had no choice, neither did customers. You ran Windows, whether this year's version sucked or not. If you were an enterprise you had the option to get your new machines licensed with the non-sucking version but end users just sucked it up.

That is what is now in doubt. Will people just sigh and buy that PC with the Win8 turd on the drive anyway, because they still feel they have no other choice, or do they go ahead and move to a tablet. Cut total boxes shipped in half and the economies of scale come into question in a world where even flat sales is considered a disaster by the stock market. AMD will certainly be dead leaving Intel to carry the workstation CPU flag forward alone. Dell would survive but HP probably dies. Enough of the chop shops and builders leave and the flood of generic 'PC' motherboard and other parts start to dry up. That is the phones/tablets/consoles vs workstation future I worry about.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (4, Interesting)

garcia (6573) | about 2 years ago | (#40845585)

According to The Ed Bott Report on ZDNet [zdnet.com] , Microsoft is turning over an entirely new leaf in its history by taking cues from Apple and developing its own hardware/software "ecosystem" (I hate that term) and alienating its OEMs which have been just as slow and lackluster as Microsoft has been over the last few years.

If we accept Bott's analysis as at least somewhat valid, Microsoft may be on the road to recovery--at least if they develop and release products that people desire.

They're already copying Apple and Google's consistent theme (copying "Metro" UI elements to their rebranded Hotmail, outlook.com) and they're developing software and hardware together. Perhaps he's right and this will bode well for Microsoft in the future.

However, there is the part of me that says that those people who want that sort of thing had already jumped ship to Apple's own "ecosystem" and everyone else was just fine staying with Microsoft because of whatever reason (cost, support, application support, familiarity, etc).

Personally I think the Metro UI (and the other unified design deals) is ridiculous and meaningless for me to get my work done and it's not going to make me move away from other products I've been using more recently. However, perhaps it will work and their demise as stated by you may be averted for another few years.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (2)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845751)

Apple didn't invent the "hardware/software" setup. It's been that way since the beginning of home computers. The IBM PC was the one strange thing in that you could install any OS on it.

Amiga, Atari ST, Commodore 64, Commodore 128, CoCo 2, CoCo 3, Apple II, etc. All computer+OS setups. Sure you could install something else on most of those but the default setup was hardware+software.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#40845651)

My main beef with it is the single provider source for their "Metro" interface. Pushing this sort of lock-in was bound to happen with Apple making such an ass-load of money from it though. I'd love to see developers *not* jump on the Metro bandwagon, but like with iOS, serious money is likely to be made only by the first in the door. Like most of society though, enough developers will jump in for the short term greed, despite the problems it will cause for them and users in general in the long term.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (1)

jo42 (227475) | about 2 years ago | (#40845765)

Wait for SP2 - it will fix everything...

You would prefer Apple? (2)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#40845833)

but Microsoft just might be dying

Much as I might have loved that headline 10 years ago, now the thought of Apple becoming a dominant force in the PC market scares the shit out of me. Goodbye MS monopoly, hello Apple walled garden. At least MS has the common courtesy to at least try to hide their evil.

Re:Let the bitching begin.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845881)

Apple is extremely controlled and as such extremely efficient at specific tasks
*nix is extremely powerful and versatile, but extremely intimidating to the average user (the stereotype of the Linux user going "you don't know how to do something? Go back to windows!" doesn't help) and doesn't have wide spread support (Yes, many know how to use it, but too many flavors outthere and no easy way of determining what OS can do what or supports this)

Windows is accessible to the lay person and currently most visibly ubiquitous. It has issues and may not be most efficient at various tasks, but one can usually find a way.

So, it comes down to this: Accessibility, capability, security: pick two.

Let the derisive laughter commence! (2)

Chas (5144) | about 2 years ago | (#40845319)

Where'd I put my popcorn?

This can only mean one thing (5, Funny)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | about 2 years ago | (#40845333)

Lotus wont run!
Nor much of anything else for that matter.

Re:This can only mean one thing (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 years ago | (#40845517)

Is that because it would have resided on the start menu? lol.

Re:This can only mean one thing (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845529)

Lotus wont run!

Ok, I'm sold.

Re:This can only mean one thing (2)

mystikkman (1487801) | about 2 years ago | (#40845865)

Lotus wont run!
Nor much of anything else for that matter.

Make that Lotus Notes and here's $39.99 !

Brace yourselves (5, Funny)

Rinikusu (28164) | about 2 years ago | (#40845357)

Everyone on slashdot is about to become a UI expert.

Re:Brace yourselves (5, Funny)

Sir_Sri (199544) | about 2 years ago | (#40845423)

After using windows 8 for an hour you'll at least know what not to do.

Re:Brace yourselves (5, Funny)

gmuslera (3436) | about 2 years ago | (#40845461)

start using it?

Re:Brace yourselves (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about 2 years ago | (#40845455)

Pointing out flaws in a sucky GUI* isn't hard. What is hard is coming up wih a good one yourself. That is what makes a UI expert.

*) or are we supposed to call it UIX these days?

Re:Brace yourselves (3, Insightful)

Ynot_82 (1023749) | about 2 years ago | (#40845491)

As if the UI is the worst thing about it...

Valve isn't lambasting windows 8, and porting all their games to Linux because of the UI

Re:Brace yourselves (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845883)

No, they're scared of the store and having to have actual competition.

Re:Brace yourselves (4, Informative)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 years ago | (#40845555)

Well I actually am a UI designer (.NET even) and Metro is a crime against computing. Whoever invented it should be shot. No sub directories? The whole thing turns microscopic if you install too many things? Apps mixed in with what you're actually looking for? Ugh.

Re:Brace yourselves (4, Funny)

zlives (2009072) | about 2 years ago | (#40845717)

thats because you are viewing it in 2d only... its optimized for immersive 3d display technology on a 80 inch screen. just put on your 3d glasses and it will all make sense.

Re:Brace yourselves (2, Insightful)

i kan reed (749298) | about 2 years ago | (#40845635)

Everyone on slashdot is about to become a UI expert.

Because it requires an expert on bovine biology to recognize bullshit.

Re:Brace yourselves (3, Funny)

CFBMoo1 (157453) | about 2 years ago | (#40845747)

"Everyone on slashdot is about to become a UI expert."

I'll have you know sir that not only do I have 40 years of UI experience but also AOEs as well. So I'm more then qualified to talk about vowels. Now consonants on the other hand I'm always QQ'n about.

my view (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845367)

Ready to the failure

TERRIBLE! (3, Informative)

bhlowe (1803290) | about 2 years ago | (#40845401)

I installed it this morning on a second drive.. The installer forced me to enter an email, my name, zipcode, birthdate, and sex to complete the installation. Are you kidding me?! Welcome to 1984.

The start menu is gone as are control panels and anything that resembles Windows 7. I spent 2 minutes searching for the "restart" command and eventually just clicked the power button. UGH... Terrible.... DO NOT INSTALL OVER YOUR WINDOWS 7 UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING.

Re:TERRIBLE! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845523)

So you've installed the finished commercial product and it asked you that? Or was it the beta that did?

And why on earth do you expect it to resemble Windows 7?

Re:TERRIBLE! (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845615)

For the RC^HP it was optional, but not that obvious (like a cop and reading your rights). In RTM you MUST use an e-mail account to install the non-enterprise OSes. You can make it all up but you will regret it.

Re:TERRIBLE! (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845577)

Ive been using the beta for a while now. Yes a few things are oddly placed - you no longer hit start to stop your computer for one.

The new start menu actually rocks - My start menu use to be a horrid mess where all I did was use the Windows 7 search feature - Which is now how I use Windows 8 - Hit the start thing type the name of what you want hit enter

Windows 8 is in many ways MUCH MORE keyboard driven and geek centric - I like it really !

Re:TERRIBLE! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845703)

Hit the start thing type the name of what you want hit enter

Windows 8 is in many ways MUCH MORE keyboard driven and geek centric - I like it really !

And if you don't know the name, what do you do?

Re:TERRIBLE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845755)

you can also use your penis to open apps, windows surface rocks

No local user account by default (2, Informative)

rl117 (110595) | about 2 years ago | (#40845641)

You can actually just use a local account--but it's not the default, and is quite unobvious. It took me several minutes to find, after being very reluctant to send all that personal information to Microsoft. I think that this subterfuge to prevent you having a local account by default is quite naughty, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get into trouble for it.

Re:TERRIBLE! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845689)

lolololol, you are pretty stupid.

The installer didn't force you to do anything. You created a Microsoft web account instead of using a standard windows account. You can do both on install, learn to read.
the desktop control panel is right where it always was, press start, type control, you'll see it.
restart is on the charms bar.

Windows 8 has a lot of warts, but if you are this stupid, you probably should stop using computers instead, maybe buy an ipad, or maybe a rattle.

They make it sound like that's a long time. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845413)

For the OS for 90-95% of the desktops on the planet, two years really isn't that much. What this means is that like usual, they are going to have fixes for their quickly slapped together software weekly for the next 5 years, instead of just spending the time it is due.

Re:They make it sound like that's a long time. (1)

zlives (2009072) | about 2 years ago | (#40845779)

no because guts are win7 rev2, its the UI that took them 2 yrs to develop.
this is not a new os just a new UI

In a word, NO! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845419)

Whomsoever early adopteth shall be damned since time immemorial.

They are ready to hit... (4, Funny)

sinij (911942) | about 2 years ago | (#40845425)

MS is ready to hit START BUTTON with Win8 production.

Re:They are ready to hit... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845905)

I thought that was to shut it down...?

I can't not wait. (3, Funny)

tetrahedrassface (675645) | about 2 years ago | (#40845445)

I guess it's time to upgrade from Me... is that even possible? I like Me. I feel like a failure.

Re:I can't not wait. (2)

Moheeheeko (1682914) | about 2 years ago | (#40845563)

waitwaitwaitwaitWAIT

You LIKE ME?

There must be something seriously wrong with you.

Re:I can't not wait. (4, Funny)

tetrahedrassface (675645) | about 2 years ago | (#40845617)

Yeah I like you... Is that bad?

Re:I can't not wait. (1)

DeeEff (2370332) | about 2 years ago | (#40845727)

The esteem with which you hold yourself in is depressing.

Re:I can't not wait. (2)

Yvan256 (722131) | about 2 years ago | (#40845807)

Indeed. 98SE is the best!

The Apple v Microsoft Eng Game... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845447)

I dont have a dog i that fight but it'll be fun.

Win8 Lament (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845459)

Here I sit
all lonely hearted.
Came to shit
but only farted

Re:Win8 Lament (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845705)

Next time, I took a chance. Saved a quarter, shit my pants.

Waiting til Win 9. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845463)

Waiting til windows 9. Windows 8 is equivalent to the beta phase of their software. Windows 9 will be the polished release with all the improved functionality from user comments.

Re:Waiting til Win 9. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845789)

Windows 9 will be the polished release with all the improved functionality from user comments.

So you are implying then that you can, in fact, polish a turd?

Re:Waiting til Win 9. (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | about 2 years ago | (#40845829)

Microsoft Windows Mountain 8.

I have to say... (2)

UltimaBuddy (2566017) | about 2 years ago | (#40845465)

I am not familiar with this new definition of the word 'ready'

YAY!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845469)

Praise the maker, Windows 8 is ready!!!

Oh really? (1)

theedgeofoblivious (2474916) | about 2 years ago | (#40845487)

I don't know. It looks like Metro needs to be baked for about twice as long.

known features? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845495)

Judging by everything I've heard from Microsoft, article the only features are:

-Superficial UI changes, which are subjective "improvements" at best, and involve switching costs.
-ARM support, which only matters for tablets
-Some cloud bullshit which only matters for people with good, cheap internet connections.

So Microsoft expects people to pay ~$100 for what, exactly?

I'm not saying there haven't been improvements, but.. I don't know of any. Would it kill Microsoft to actually tell us?

so... (3, Funny)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 years ago | (#40845503)

So, they removed metro?

IIs too much like linux..... (2)

who_stole_my_kidneys (1956012) | about 2 years ago | (#40845541)

It is an absolute disaster on the desktop, looks silly, and works great on embedded devices \ single purpose devices.

I'll wait and see.. (1)

HerculesMO (693085) | about 2 years ago | (#40845543)

I'm not a huge fan of the new UI, but I think I'll adapt. I am looking forward to the performance improvements though.

I don't spend a lot of time in the start menu as it is, so I don't think it's a huge loss to me, just a change in how I normally operate. I'm okay with change. But seems a lot of people, especially people in technology (weird?), have a HUGE problem with change.

The nice thing is, if you don't like it, don't switch. I don't know why such a huge deal is made of this, but Microsoft will lose if people don't adopt, and I don't recall them ever having struggles with Windows or Office which coincidentally, also got a huge redesign that everybody hated (and now everybody is used to).

Why force iterations? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845547)

What is gained by not evolving win7, and instead recreating hundreds of potential vulnerabilities since closed?

Torrent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845581)

Normally we'd have been asking for torrents by now, but... it's Win8, Metro... so nah, I'll stick with Win7.

An auspicious date (3, Insightful)

Bonker (243350) | about 2 years ago | (#40845613)

Of course there are many, many factors leading to the downfall of Microsoft. We've been reading about them for years as the 800 Pound Gorilla from Redmond has been slowly breaking its bones under its own weight.

Most people will point to the fact that Microsoft's failures have ensured that more people are using Linux worldwide than ever before... in the form of Android smartphones. MS *could* have had that market, but they continued to present shit products in the face of (at least perceived) quality goods from Apple and Google.

We've also heard in the last few days and weeks about how serious Valve is about getting their products to be 'Native' for Linux. We're going to see more of that, especially as more and more game designers want to develop for smart-phones.

Going forward, Microsoft's plans for smartphone development look pretty dismal. They're not even supporting their own technologies or frameworks, like Silverlight.

Ultimately, however, I think that shipping an WindowsME-bad desktop OS while this massive paradigm shift is happening is going to have long-reaching and long-lasting effects. Unlike when WinME shipped, there are some pretty darn good alternatives for development on both phones and PCs right now. When Win8 starts flopping around like a hooked carp, it's not going to be just the developers looking for an exit. It's going to be gamers and home-users as well. This time that exit is pretty darn visible.

And today is the day that flopping carp was hooked.

Captcha: resisted. How oddly apropos...

Re:An auspicious date (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845715)

you had me until you used the words "paradigm shift". ugh.

Killing the Start Button... (5, Insightful)

jdastrup (1075795) | about 2 years ago | (#40845621)

Killing the Start Button is like building a house without a front door. Sure, I use the garage door 99% of the time. According to Microsoft, this is reason to get rid of the front door.

That's No Moon! (1)

ilikenwf (1139495) | about 2 years ago | (#40845623)

It's Billy Gates on a tricycle.

What matters is the kernel (4, Insightful)

MSRedfox (1043112) | about 2 years ago | (#40845655)

Everyone complains about the new Metro interface. I've been running Win8 preview for a while now and while I've adapted to the new interface, it does still bugs me. But complaining about it is like arguing about KDE vs Gnome; you can castrate the Metro interface to look like Win7 with 3rd party software. What really matters is the kernel. It may break some applications and for those people Win8 is a bad choice. But from my experience, the new kernel is runs better than Win7 (which is saying a lot given how much better 7 was than Vista). Several games I tested got a nice frame-per-second boost (or at least performed equally) under Win8 vs Win7. So for me it's worth it to upgrade but I suppose your mileage may vary and as benchmarks come out we can see more about how the kernel performs on different systems.

Wait, what? (3, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#40845677)

They've released Windows 8 Service Pack 2 already?

Windows 8 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845753)

Mobile Edition.

Year of the Linux Desktop? (1)

DeeEff (2370332) | about 2 years ago | (#40845769)

If Microsoft keeps this up, I'll be looking forward to the day that computer science grads have to pledge an oath to the four software freedoms, not much unlike Doctors and their oath to the tenets of medicine.

Perhaps there will be a light at the end of the tunnel, but I do worry that the light will require a license key.

PLEASE!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845781)

Do NOT buy Windows 8. It is horrid on many levels. I have NO desire to have my desktop act like a smartphone. Its fine for smartphones and tablets, but fails on the desktop.

Everyone knows this is M$'s fail OS.

Windows ME Fail
Windows XP Awesome
Windows VIsta Fail
Windows 7 Awesome
Windows 8 Fail
Windows XX Awesome

DON'T buy it and let them go back to an awesome OS..

"Ooooh, pretty colors!" Just be sure not to look (1)

gatesstillborg (2633899) | about 2 years ago | (#40845869)

...under the hood. Oh, that's right, YOU CAN'T!!!

They should follow the Chrome and Firefox model (3, Insightful)

Yvan256 (722131) | about 2 years ago | (#40845871)

Announcing Windows 15!

Or you can wait two weeks and upgrade directly to Windows 19!

Now complete (1)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | about 2 years ago | (#40845891)

as in completely borked.

Old News.. (1)

Penurious Penguin (2687307) | about 2 years ago | (#40845909)

Unity has been ready. Oh, pardon me; you're actually serious. Oh, you mean I have to pay for this one? So, it's like a more authoritarian Unity, but with a colossal license agreement, viruses and malware? What's this about DVDs? The Start Menu wasn't really removed you say? It was just ported to the subterranean Apple facility .....where?
I've had enough.

Windoze Have ( Score: +4, Seditious ) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40845925)

Never Been Ready.

Morons.

Yours In Peace,
K. Trout

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