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What If There Was a Microsoft Appreciation Day?

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the good-luck-finding-one-around-here dept.

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theodp writes "In 2005, Microsoft came under fire after withdrawing support for an anti-gay-discrimination bill. 'I don't want the company to be in the position of appearing to dismiss the deeply-held beliefs of any employee, by picking sides on social policy issues,' explained CEO Steve Ballmer. That was then. Microsoft — like Google and Amazon — has since very publicly declared its support for gay-marriage legislation, which means it — unlike Chick-fil-A — needn't worry about the 'deeply-held beliefs of any employee' causing it to be blocked from doing business by the mayors of Boston, Chicago, and San Francisco. I guess we'll never know what Microsoft versions of 'Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day' or 'National Same-Sex Kiss Day' would have looked like."

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What's the point of this "story"? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40880919)

Other than just trying to rile up commentators? Clickbait much?

Re:What's the point of this "story"? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40880993)

When it comes to 'gay', Microsoft can celebrate 'catch a virus day'.

Re:What's the point of this "story"? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881225)

Poster wanted to launch a big discussion on Chick-fil-A vs. gays and liberal mayors, but chickened out (no pun) at the last minute because it wasn't "news for nerds".

So he and the editor hedged at the last minute by adding the bash Microsoft/Ballmer angle.

If that's not enough, feel free to discuss GNOME, Unity or KDE.

Re:What's the point of this "story"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881551)

The point is, if you don't agree with me, you hate me.

Duh!

Re:What's the point of this "story"? (1)

mcneely.mike (927221) | more than 2 years ago | (#40882011)

Well, you're either gay... or vagina? Go Steve Balmer... no really. Go

What if... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40880921)

What if Microsoft is pew pew along the lines of magazine? I'm a 1990's nerd.

Ready... set... Troll! (3, Insightful)

pspahn (1175617) | more than 2 years ago | (#40880925)

I'm not even sure what this post is about or why it is something that matters.

I imagine there will be a troll fest coming in 3... 2...

Re:Ready... set... Troll! (2)

fm6 (162816) | more than 2 years ago | (#40880985)

How can you have an article on LGBT issues without trolling?

The post actually presents an interesting issue (via the time.com link): why do corporations feel they have to take sides on the gay marriage issue? The problem is that the poster gave into the temptation to make his headline and post cute and snarky.

It's worth pointing out that whole "appreciation day" thing happened because Chick-Fil-A has a rather affectionate relationship with its customers. Hard to see the same thing happening at McDonalds, never mind Microsoft.

Re:Ready... set... Troll! (4, Insightful)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881317)

>>>Chick-Fil-A has a rather affectionate relationship with its customers. Hard to see the same thing happening at McDonalds, never mind Microsoft.

Interesting. Maybe I ought to try this Chick-Fil-A business.
The ACLU has strongly criticized the mayors of Boston, Chicago, et cetera. They say if the government follows-through on blocking Chick-Fil-a then the ACLU will sue the local governments for discrimination against a business (or group) based upon its religious beliefs. Though I am pro-same sex marriage, I agree with teh ACLU that it is not the role of government to punish/boycott/ban people or businesses or groups for their speech or ideas.

Re:Ready... set... Troll! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881589)

I agree with teh ACLU

No you don't. You've often stated that you believe that, as part of the incorporation license, government does get to tell businesses "you will serve blacks/gays/jews/etc. Or Else."

Re:Ready... set... Troll! (3, Insightful)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881651)

Chick-Fil-A isn't refusing to serve gays, so I don't see how is your post relevant.

Re:Ready... set... Troll! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881683)

No you don't. You've often stated that you believe that, as part of the incorporation license, government does get to tell businesses "you will serve blacks/gays/jews/etc. Or Else."

And Chick-fil-a has not refused service to blacks/gays/jews/etc. Nor would they even if it were legal. The Openly Christian CEO was asked his views on same-sex marriage for an article, and suddenly a million Internet hate mongers got all riled up and declared the company to be a hate monger.

Re:Ready... set... Troll! (1)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881539)

because Chick-Fil-A has a rather affectionate relationship with its customers. Hard to see the same thing happening at McDonalds, never mind Microsoft.

Well, I don't know about Microsoft, but ol' Ronald McDonald was quite well known for his affection to some of his customers...

Re:Ready... set... Troll! (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881695)

Well, I don't know about Microsoft, but ol' Ronald McDonald was quite well known for his affection to some of his customers...

Plus Mayor McCheese was pretty flamboyant - and let's not even start with the Hamburgler!

Re:Ready... set... Troll! (3, Informative)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881595)

To be fair, the CEO made the comments outside the business realm to a group at a southern baptist online convention. His son repeated and clarified the remarks when asked by reporters outside that. The official company stance on the issue was somewhat agnostic as they said they didn't want o be involved in the debate and wanted to leave it to the political and government arenas.

It is really being blown out or portion to state that Chick-Fil-A itself as a company other then donating to a charity the owner's wife is involved with has an anti gay or anti gay marriage stance. Even with the controversy in the headlines, we haven't seen any gays step forward saying they were refused promotions or denied jobs because of their orientation.

Re:Ready... set... Troll! (3, Informative)

mdf356 (774923) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881727)

The post actually presents an interesting issue (via the time.com link): why do corporations feel they have to take sides on the gay marriage issue?

As I recall, Microsoft's reasoning was made explicit at least once. MSFT believes that, by supporting issues such as same-sex marriage, it can attract the most talented gay people in the software industry as employees, who may see the company's support of such an issue as a reason to work for MSFT rather than a competitor.

Re:Ready... set... Troll! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881081)

What if there was a troll appreciation day? Trolls have feelings too.

What's the news here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40880931)

Is this just an excuse to have a Chick-Fil-A discussion? Because there sure isn't much news to be seen.

Tee hee! (1)

M4n (1472737) | more than 2 years ago | (#40880941)

I love satire.

I'm sorry.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40880949)

I'm sorry.. wait, what was the purpose of this article?

Re:I'm sorry.. (1)

Anachragnome (1008495) | more than 2 years ago | (#40880989)

"I'm sorry.. wait, what was the purpose of this article?"

To get the ball rollin' on the violent political upheaval (the clock is ticking--we only have 8 years), and to point out they're doing it wrong--those Chick-fil-A events should have been on the same day.

There would be a peak in Linux downloads (1)

dehole (1577363) | more than 2 years ago | (#40880951)

Just because, that is how many people would appreciate it.

This is a non-story, which isn't "News for Nerds" or "Stuff that matters".

Meme time (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40880977)

Soulskill: This article is bad and you should feel bad.

Microsoft Appreciation Day? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40880979)

Such a day would be a holiday.

Holiday is derived from 'Holy Day'.

A 'Holy Day' has the assumption of a divine being.

A diving being couldn't make GNU/Hurd into a usable operating system.

RMS has developing GNU/Hurd since 1984.

1984 is symbolic of Big Brother and a panopticon society.

RMS is an atheist, also an advocate of privacy and freedom.

Clearly a single day to venerate a corporation runs counter to Slashdot's core beliefs.

Re:Microsoft Appreciation Day? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881365)

Bill Gates is an atheist too. This post is as nearly as pointless as the article.

Re:Microsoft Appreciation Day? (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881487)

Such a day would be a holiday.

Holiday is derived from 'Holy Day'.

A 'Holy Day' has the assumption of a divine being.

A diving being couldn't make GNU/Hurd into a usable operating system.

RMS has developing GNU/Hurd since 1984.

1984 is symbolic of Big Brother and a panopticon society.

RMS is an atheist, also an advocate of privacy and freedom.

Clearly a single day to venerate a corporation runs counter to Slashdot's core beliefs.

Is that scuba? Is that hard hat? Is someone in the tank?

Missing Borg Logo! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40880983)

how much $$$ did /. receive to remove it?

Re:Missing Borg Logo! (2)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881429)

Bill hasn't been CEO in over a decade, or a Borg encounter on Star Trek in almost as long. It's an old icon whose time is past.

" or 'National Same-Sex Kiss Day' " (1)

Penurious Penguin (2687307) | more than 2 years ago | (#40880991)

If we could look at this with the same objectivity through which we see Father's Day and Mother's Day, perhaps we could have two; one for each gender. I'm pretty sure I'd celebrate one of them by staying home though.

So much for the whole "stuff that matters" thing, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881001)

eh slashdot?

This is the first time I've seen a blatant troll as a topic at slashdot.

Shark duly jumped (yawn).

Re:So much for the whole "stuff that matters" thin (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881259)

You must be new here.

Just. Not. Possible. (1, Insightful)

reboot246 (623534) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881003)

Appreciate Microsoft? No way, no matter who or what they support or don't support.

I tolerate the stuff they produce, but I don't like it.

Re:Just. Not. Possible. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881069)

After the 247th reboot, you'll stop tolerating the stuff produced by Microsoft.

Re:Just. Not. Possible. (1)

Penurious Penguin (2687307) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881199)

Do you think you could say that with straight face while gazing into the empty eager eyes of a Microsoft lobbyist?

Re:Just. Not. Possible. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881219)

Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 are both excellent products.

Questions, Always These Questions.... (5, Funny)

macraig (621737) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881011)

What If There Was an End to All These Silly Interrogatory Posts at Slashdot?

Re:Questions, Always These Questions.... (1)

Lord Lode (1290856) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881049)

I don't know! They're asking us a What If question! Are we commenters supposed to write an essay about it now?

Re:Questions, Always These Questions.... (1)

neonsignal (890658) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881885)

No.

free meal ticket (1)

rossdee (243626) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881031)

If there was a Microsoft Appreciation day, Bill Gates and Steve Balmer would get a free meal ticket to the cafe at work.

It seems (4, Insightful)

maroberts (15852) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881033)

...that most IT companies have led the way on gay rights.

OK, Microsoft was a little slower than a few off the blocks, but in general I think that IT corporations should be proud of their lead in this issue, and MS should be applauded for being among them.

Still won't stop me loading up Linux instead though...

People bash Microsoft (4, Insightful)

Smallpond (221300) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881041)

... because they don't know what the software market was like before them.

A good CAD setup including workstation and licenses could be $100K. A mainframe to handle your accounting could be $6000 per month.

Personal computing - IBM, Microsoft, and Apple - demolished the old model which was low volume, buggy software at high prices. I have no illusions about their intentions, they've made more money than any emperor. But I do appreciate what they created.

What about GNU/Linux? And freedom? I don't use MS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881201)

I didn't know computers before Apple, IBM, or Microsoft. Hell, I didn't even exist. The companies that brought us change though were these companies. There were other personal computers that came before. It might have taken a little longer to get some applications although I have found it to be well worth the wait. I'd rather have freedom and contribute to that freedom than be a slave to these companies or predecessors.

ThinkPenguin.com's doing a lot of good. I can't say I have much respect for any other company though. They all suck and I certainly don't appreciate them.

People bash Stalin (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881241)

... because they don't know how he stopped Hitler from winning World War II.

Re:People bash Stalin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881525)

... because they don't know how he stopped Hitler from winning World War II.

Except that WWII would not have happened in the first place if Stalin hadn't allied himself with Hitler.

shills defend microsoft (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881363)

You must be high or paid off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists [wikipedia.org]

"The Open Letter to Hobbyists was an open letter written by Bill Gates, the co-founder of Microsoft, to early personal computer hobbyists, in which Gates expresses dismay at the rampant copyright infringement of software taking place in the hobbyist community, particularly with regard to his company's software.

In the letter, Gates expressed frustration with most computer hobbyists who were using his company's Altair BASIC software without having paid for it. He asserted that such widespread unauthorized copying in effect discourages developers from investing time and money in creating high-quality software. He cited the unfairness of gaining the benefits of software authors' time, effort, and capital without paying them."

tldr: put down the crack pipe

Re:shills defend microsoft (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881545)

I don't see the problem here.

If people were indeed massively pirating commercial software, Bill is right.

Re:People bash Microsoft (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881391)

This stuff would have all existed without Microsoft. IBM would have asked some other company to make their PC-DOS. Like Atari. Or Commodore.

Who knows? We might all be running GEOSworks on our PCs instead of windows. (And WordPerfect with Lotus 1-2-3 and OrCad and Netscape..... not a single microsoft program in sight.) Hmmm. I think I just thought of an alternate history short story: The Year 2012 w/o Microsoft.

Re:People bash Microsoft (5, Insightful)

Xtifr (1323) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881415)

Nope. Most people don't know what the software market was like before MS, and those people are divided between bashers and non-bashers. Some people know what the software market was like before MS, and they are also divided between bashers and non-bashers.

I used QDOS before Microsoft bought it and renamed it MS-DOS. I helped develop software for the IBM PC before it was released to the general public. I used CP/M, Apple II DOS, C64 OS, and Unix before MS was more than an obscure BASIC vendor. I contributed to at least one ISO language standard before the PC was released. I know what the market was like back then, and I unreservedly bash MS.

The best thing they've done is try to implement Gary Kildall's vision--badly. The worst thing they've done is set software development back by years if not decades by deliberately ignoring or undermining open standards, and by destroying competition in the market. Between those two, I think the latter is more significant, so I freely bash them. I think I've earned the right.

You seem to be confusing "personal computers" with Microsoft. Microsoft didn't invent the personal computer, and they weren't the first to come up with the idea of creating a vendor-independent OS. In fact, I come up empty trying to list their actual contributions to the world--aside from not dropping the market IBM handed them on a silver platter.

Re:People bash Microsoft (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881591)

Yep most people who first used a computer only new MS.

Neophytes were typical computer users from 10 - 15 years ago and they loved AOL, Win 95, and IE 6 and all the crashes and bugs that came with it. Today these same users mostly have switched to Firefox outside of work and are used to quality relatively crash free (XP still aint no unix).

Most pro MS people were either business folks hoping one platform specializing in proprietary apps in a stack would somehow save money (are stuck with IE 6 today as a result) or were neophytes back in time.

Today the situatiohn is different. I do not know anyone pro microsoft. I have been accused as a shill but in reality I find Windows easier to deal with than Linux for desktop use, but prefer Linux on the server. IPADs are proof that consumers are finally growing up and realizing what htey had was crap.

Re:People bash Microsoft (3, Insightful)

Nethead (1563) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881983)

I too was an early MicroSoft user. I remember the paper tape of BASIC 1.0 being passed around at the computer club. I grew up using MS BASIC on the Altair, TRS-80, Kaypro, VIC-20 and C64 (sysres made that so sweet to work with.) I even "re-engineered" the VIC-20 BASIC and ROM for use in a telecom board (think of a VIC-88 with 4x6522 and 4x20 LCD display with a 4MHz 65C02, hella board for the day.) Come the PC I used QBASIC to run broadcast automation. I could freaking fly around a DOS machine with Norton Commander and my Northgate keyboard ("Function keys on the left, where God intended!")

When Windows came along and I found this Linux thing, and then later, this BSD thing. I just can't do Windows anymore.

But I do have to give it to them for giving us a common language that was easy to port from platform to platform back in the day. Not an easy thing considering the vast architectural differences between those machines. I'm not sure if that is what they intended, but it worked out that way. I mean, you could take a BASIC program for calculating orbits that was developed on a Cromemco and quickly get it running on a C64.

I do have to thank Bill Gates for choosing to locate in the Pacific Northwest. I've never worked for Microsoft, directly, (and god knows I've had the offers) but he created a great ecosystem where I am able to get people to pay me to play with very expensive network toys.

As much as I don't like working with current MS products (except keyboards and mice, hell, I'm typing on one now) I sure am glad to have grown up in their shadow.

People bash Microsoft because Microsoft is awful (1)

JOrgePeixoto (853808) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881679)

People bash Microsoft because Microsoft used its monopoly to force Windows down the throats of people who did not want it.
People bash Microsoft because it dumped MSIE into the market until Netscape died, then let MSIE stagnate for an eternity. Also, because MSIE had awful standars compliance and, because it was dominant, alternative browser makers had to emulate its infinite bugs, which took many years to achieve.
People bash Microsoft because of the Halloween Documents.

And, what would happen without Microsoft? Likely, open source would be far more prevalent than it is today.

Now, I agree that Apple has become worse than Microsoft. This suggests that if a company gets too big, it will probably become Microsoft-style harmful. And if Microsoft shrinks, and can become good.

But saying that Microsoft was a benefactor? Oh please.

What if there was? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881113)

What if there were a black yachting regatta?

Re:What if there was? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881759)

What if there were a black yachting regatta?

Those would have to be some awfully fat black men for sailors to ply them through the water.

Microsoft seems pretty apolitical on this (1)

Trepidity (597) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881115)

I'm not entirely sure what the point of this story is, but afaict, Microsoft, like most large firms, has always taken the most boring possible position on any political issue that doesn't directly affect their bottom line. Their two driving factors are: 1) appeal to likely employees, who are generally urban, young, and moderate social liberals; while 2) not pissing everyone else off too much. Both their 2005 and 2012 actions are consistent with that.

They are a compnay (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881141)

I applaud them for NOT choosing sides. I wish ALL companies would do the same. Politics should be done by people, not by companies.
Unfortunately they and many other companies still buy influence by using lobbyists.

What if... (5, Insightful)

SpeZek (970136) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881143)

What if Slashdot just stuck to posting actual news stories instead of speculatory flamebait?

Re:What if... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881435)

you must be new here

Contrawise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881615)

If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't.

Re:What if... (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881717)

You have a relatively low UID, perhaps you remember and long for Slashdot before the politics section was installed temporarily and never got removed.

I too remember of a better time in slashdot history. I guess we are getting old and useless or something.

I'll appriciate them when they pay me to. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881183)

just like the idiotic shills and crap "help" articles they pay to have propagate the web.

Let's all buy licenses (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881189)

Let's all buy additional licenses for Windows and Office to show our financial support to Microsoft!

Re:Let's all buy licenses (1)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881767)

You have a point there. I mean, why would any company need any extra appreciation. Buying and using their products should be enough. Because of this reason, being a fan of some company in Facebook is usually a bit retarded too, I think.

Microsoft Appreciation Day on one condition (2)

jiteo (964572) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881221)

Only if it coincided with Opposite Day.

A gay viewpoint (4, Interesting)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881223)

I don't consider it real progress that some companies come out in support of gay marriage, while others are against it. I go to Pride, but I wish we didn't have it. Real progress will be when it ceases to matter whether or not you're gay; When it's as natural as not being gay.

It's like black history month. I don't support that either. People call me racist for it, but I don't. There is no black history month; Black history is American history. It's human history. And their accomplishments should be celebrated the same way as every other historical accomplishment is. We don't need a "special olympics" history for people based on the color of their skin, we need to delete those divisions from our history books, mentioning only that there was a period of time (known as the Stupid Ages) when it was relevant, and then we grew up and put a stop to it. Ta-da, the end.

It'll be progress with companies like Chic-Fil A say they don't support gay marriage or homosexuality, and gets no press coverage at all. Like, wait, what? Why the fuck does anyone care what a fast food restaurant owner thinks about a perfectly natural state of being? That'd be like Ford Motor Co., coming out and saying they're against red heads marrying. It would go on the back pages, in the "News of the Weird" section.

That's where shit like this belongs, and until that's where it ends up and people pay it no more attention than as a source of fringe humor and entertainment when companies make announcements like this, we're still in the Stupid Ages of our future history books.

Re:A gay viewpoint (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881325)

I don't consider it real progress that some companies come out in support of gay marriage, while others are against it. I go to Pride, but I wish we didn't have it. Real progress will be when it ceases to matter whether or not you're gay; When it's as natural as not being gay.

It's like black history month. I don't support that either. People call me racist for it, but I don't. There is no black history month; Black history is American history. It's human history. And their accomplishments should be celebrated the same way as every other historical accomplishment is. We don't need a "special olympics" history for people based on the color of their skin, we need to delete those divisions from our history books, mentioning only that there was a period of time (known as the Stupid Ages) when it was relevant, and then we grew up and put a stop to it. Ta-da, the end.

It'll be progress with companies like Chic-Fil A say they don't support gay marriage or homosexuality, and gets no press coverage at all. Like, wait, what? Why the fuck does anyone care what a fast food restaurant owner thinks about a perfectly natural state of being? That'd be like Ford Motor Co., coming out and saying they're against red heads marrying. It would go on the back pages, in the "News of the Weird" section.

That's where shit like this belongs, and until that's where it ends up and people pay it no more attention than as a source of fringe humor and entertainment when companies make announcements like this, we're still in the Stupid Ages of our future history books.

You're kidding right?

It isn't possible for gay relationships to be as natural as traditional relationships.

the fact that you think they should be shows just how far gone you are and how corrupt modern society has made you and any who think the same way.

homosexuality is clearly an aberration that doesn't benefit human society at all and in fact has been proven to cause negative side effects for every aspect of our society. including social areas and health wise and personal aspects.

there's a reason most people recoil from the mere idea of it, not because of man made social constructs but because of our human nature. which is absolute and hasn't changed in 6,000 years.

homosexuality will never be on par with traditional sex since it's revolting and evil.

go back in the closet.

Re:A gay viewpoint (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881725)

Let me guess: You specifically mentioned 6,000 years because that's how old you think the Earth is. Am I right? How has homosexuality been proven to cause harm, and to whom? I'd be interested to see your sources.

Any rational thinking individual should be concerned about real problems like unemployment, failing infrastructure, pollution, water and food shortages, overpopulation, etc. I'm not sure why some people think that preventing consenting adults from marrying or having basic rights is more important than any of the above.

"Most people" (by this I mean bigoted idiots) recoiled from the concept of interracial marriage 50-60 years ago, I'm sure.

Re:A gay viewpoint (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881861)

I wouldn't be so sure. Used to be, every once in a while porn (on a vhs tape) had an anal sex scene. Girls flat out refused to have anything to do with it (and guys wouldn't even ask). Nowadays, it's a fairly common in porn. Additionally, most of the girls I've dated in the past 3 years or so have been ok with more deviant stuff (asking me if I want to try anal, sticking a finger in my ass, giving me a rimjob, asking if they can fuck my ass with a dildo, etc). I've even hooked up with a couple girls that were saving their virginity for marriage but had anal sex on a regular basis. I've even met a few dudes who insist their not gay but will fuck another man's ass or mouth because it doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman. (wtf?)

Anal sex is now normal with anyone under 30 or so.

Joking... (1)

pubwvj (1045960) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881285)

It's a joke... right?

I ate at chick-fil-a every day this week. (2)

codepunk (167897) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881297)

I ate and or bought chick-fil-a for others every single day this week and will continue.

Now before anyone goes hating on me know this.

1. I donate large sums of money to GLBT causes every year and have nothing against gay marriage.
2. I am not religious.
3. I believe in evolution not creationism.
4. I am a hard core right wing Republican.

All that being said, I am extremely pro private business and that value far outweighs anyones little pissing match with the management of chick-fil-a.

Re:I ate at chick-fil-a every day this week. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881321)

they should've just inserted freshly cooked mini chickens into their anus instead of kissing

Re:I ate at chick-fil-a every day this week. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881343)

I hate chick-fil-a because they kill lots of chicken with their pro-carnivorous business model. Now wait there while I finish making my lettuce bomb.

You missed the real reason not to hate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881385)

Their chicken is super delicious. Maybe being anti-gay marriage makes things delicious. I'm not a scientist, so I don't know, but I intend to eat more anti-gay marriage stuff to find out.

Re:I ate at chick-fil-a every day this week. (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881587)

I don't get your last point. Are you under the impression that Chick-fil-A is the only private business that can serve you food? Because otherwise, I don't see how exactly does being "pro private business" has anything to do with eating at C-f-A.

Re:I ate at chick-fil-a every day this week. (1)

codepunk (167897) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881627)

No but they are the ones under attack for their president stating his opinion. Which of course has nothing at all to do with any of the franchise owners and or their employees.

That and well the simple fact they sell hands down the best chicken sandwich.

Re:I ate at chick-fil-a every day this week. (3, Interesting)

An Ominous Coward (13324) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881915)

I understand the sentiment, but please reconsider your choice. Chick-Fil-A did not come under attack because of its CEO's statements, although those statements did fan the flames afterwards. Chick-Fil-A came under fire for its funding of hate groups. And I'm not using "hate group" here in a wishy-washy, "anyone who disagrees with me is a hate group" way. I'm talking about groups that are pushing for Ugandan law to make homosexuality a capital crime. There's some confusion out there about much of Chick-Fil-A's millions of dollars of donations research that particular organization, but I would anyone involved in supporting GLBT issues to find any association with that hate group to be reprehensible.

Re:I ate at chick-fil-a every day this week. (1)

An Ominous Coward (13324) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881925)

("reached", not "research")

Being gay does not mean worshipping the Devil (1)

gweihir (88907) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881307)

I though that was clear by now...

Because we aren't intolerant (1, Insightful)

MartinSchou (1360093) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881345)

Seriously.

Why is it that there's this need to "celebrate" the idea that some people are intrinsically worth less than others?

If you're born on that side of an arbitrary line, you're a great guy, if you're born on the other side, you're a piece of scum who deserves to die a painful death.

If you happen to have a different skin pigment than the other people, you're filth and less evolved.

If you believe that this myth is reality you're an idiot, but believing that myth makes you a saint.

If you're this gender and not that one, then you shouldn't do this or that.

Etc. etc. etc. It's all idiocy and lunacy.

Yes, for some reason, there seems to be this constant push to celebrate intolerance.

I think we should just kill all the intolerant people and enjoy a much saner world.

Re:Because we aren't intolerant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881669)

I think we should just kill all the intolerant people and enjoy a much saner world.

How intolerant of you.

Tolerance (1)

landofcleve (1959610) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881349)

For one to truly be against intolerance, they would have to be tolerant of those who are intolerant. To NOT tolerate those who are intolerant - IS intolerance.

Re:Tolerance (2, Insightful)

bmo (77928) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881425)

Being tolerant of intolerant people does not make you tolerant. It is you standing idly by as bad things are done to people.

--
BMO

Re:Tolerance (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881819)

No, it's being tolerant by definition. Tolerance means overlooking something you dislike.

And most people, or a lot of them, do not consider defining marriage between a man and a woman a bad thing.

One critical difference (4, Informative)

eclectro (227083) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881375)

Chic-Fil-A is a private company serving the interests of a private owner. Microsoft soft is a publicly held company which primarily exists to serve the interests of their shareholders.

The same sex marriage debate is divisive and there are strong beliefs on both sides. Does a public company exist to sell a product and provide a profit to its shareholders, or help enact social change even if it means the cost of business? Even if it hurts shareholders?

It simply does not make sense to take sides on a on a highly divisive social issue. [businessweek.com]

In Chic-Fil-A's case, Rahm Emmanuel shot his mouth off saying "Their values are not our values" and supported his alderman's postion to stop Chic--Fil-A from building a restaurant based on Chic Fil A's president stance on opposing same sex marriage. Which subsequently led to the anti-boycott and Chic-Fil-A's single biggest sales day in the history of the company Aug 1 [chicagotribune.com]

Re:One critical difference (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881613)

A company, public or not, exists to do whatever its owners want it to do. If the Microsoft shareholders don't like the position of the current board they can vote it off.

AoE II (1)

Terranex (1500465) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881407)

I will support any MS appreciation day that includes AoE II in its celebrations.

Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881417)

Anyone remember when /. used to be good?

What If There Was a Microsoft Appreciation Day... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881437)

...and nobody came?

Re:What If There Was a Microsoft Appreciation Day. (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881547)

...and nobody came?

During the Cold War, MAD stood for Mutually Assured Destruction.

appreciation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881451)

The best thing that MS could do for the world is get out of the OS Business. Their craptastic software is behind the vast wasteland of "cyberspace " nonsense. The open source community OS are more secure "out of the box " than this Multi-billion dollar fiasco. Seriously. Everyone who has ever been hacked based on LM hash compromises, pass -the -hash, XP _CMD, ms08 -067, activex, local DLL, or thousands of similar ridiculous implementation errors should sue for every penny of damage and cost incurred trying to protect their software. We're wasting trillions due to the EPIC failure that is MS OS security.

We need a way MS people could identify each other (1)

Grayhand (2610049) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881561)

We could all wear bright blue t-shirts.

Jebus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881625)

Just when you think Slashdot can't get any lower they somehow manage to drain a little more out of the pool. Worst. Article. Ever.

I'll say something positive of microsoft... (2)

Nexion (1064) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881635)

The old CEO, Mr. Gates, is a much better man then I once thought of him. Microsoft's operating system did get better... in fact it was finally worth its price! It is a shame though... the decided to do a power grab with a BIOS mod. It becomes laughable when they tried to push Windows 8 on us with so much bad news. They might have had a chance with Windows 7.

I find humor in the fact that game companies are now looking hard at Linux. As Microsoft shovels two healthy spades of dirt upon their own grave I know there is a good chance the next motherboard I buy might cost me a couple hundred dollars and wont run Windows, but in truth I really don't care. Linux has long made a better workstation, and there are games on the way! Sony will produce a better console for playing games, and maybe I should bother gaming on my workstation. The only two games I play anymore are EQ2 and Diablo 3, so I'm halfway there already.

I thank Microsoft for being pragmatic about such hot button issues that only fools invest so much passion in. Don't get me wrong my gay friends. I hate tyranny as much as you do, but "marriage" is a silly stupid word that can never eclipse true love. Those who cling to the word "marriage" like it was some God given right to a man and woman are often found forsaking their vows as they bed others. It is a worthless word unless there is love, commitment and truth behind it. There is no love, commitment to their fellow man or so much as a stick of truth behind denying that all people should have the same rights.

So, in a time where you can seem to do nothing right, thank you Microsoft... thank you for being just a hair less daft.

Public Companies... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881661)

should not be allowed to publicly support or endorse any social policies without a shareholder vote.

Chick-Fil-A is not a public company, they should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with their money. But hey, I think any companies should be able to hire/fire whoever they want as long as they publicly "opt out" of the equal opportunity / anti-discrimination crap.

Will there be... (1)

jacerie (1071646) | more than 2 years ago | (#40881685)

Ballmer Pinatas? If so, count me in.

BIG BOOBS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881713)

Poor Microsoft, so misunderstood. If someone would just give MS a girlfriend...

If there was a MS Appreciation Day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881937)

Which the links don't exactly seem to be talking about, there would be riots, fire bombing, and probably at least some sysadmins would be committing ritual suicide.

The other 80-90% of the population would be ignorantly happy.

As the saying says... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881949)

"You are more alone than Ballmer in Microsoft Apreciation Day"

Out of troll points (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40881985)

I'm out of troll points. So here's my reply.

I appreciate MS for all the hours of work they provided me. They are very good for economy. I hated them every day.

Back in 1995. My dream was to work at MS campus. I hate them everyday since.

I stubbornly tried not to hate them for many years. Justifying that my job relied on, directly or indirictly, Ms products.

I choose to run a MS-free life today as much as possible - yes you'r patches are welcome but despite i'll hate you the same as i do oracle or apple. I don't trust either of them. That includes goggle yet mickey is a magnitude more worse.

RMS is right. It's not about the freedom you choose. It's about the freedom 'they' will let you. i refuse to spend 1 byte of programming in an insane environment. i refuse to waste my time on something that shouldnt be waisted but just a matter of 'find the right way please'.

MS development equals occupational therapy. There's no sane 'best approach' pragma in their concepts. If any, its more work, not less, so we create jobs for more coders.

One way, i'm fine with that. 'Digital era good for economy' 'In land of blind, one-eye is king'.

But. they do obstruct and sabotage sane solutions, protocols, standards. MS sabotages anything. because they dont care digital age. They only care profit.

It's not because they made inferior yet popular operating system that i hate them. It's their policy and their visions. Modern slaverly. And you'll be a brave humble certified slave worker. That's why i hate them. Because they mix some insane politics, bad movies pale, with 'technological development'.

I'd almost bought an xbox. for fun. And i happily run OS for many years now. MS. I give you all advantages of the doubt a human would imagine possible. But you are traitors to technology. There's no advance. There's only disadvance. There's no curing digibetism. It's training idiocracy.

Posting anymous nevertheless hope you don't mind. Uncut. Soz for types. Was a bit moody.

It's MAD (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 2 years ago | (#40882027)

MAD, I say.

Sponsorship (1)

techno-vampire (666512) | more than 2 years ago | (#40882041)

If there were a Microsoft Appreciation Day, I'm sure it would have quite a few corporate sponsors. All of the anti-virus, anti-malware, third-party firewall vendors would be happy to sponsor it along with all of the other companies who's business model depends on patching up holes and vulnerabilities in various versions of Windows. After all, if it weren't for Microsoft, they wouldn't be in business.
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